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Comicscape - October 12, 2005

By: Kurt Amacker
Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2005

You probably noticed that my colleague of questionable esteem, Al Brown, wrote last week's column. I had to return to New Orleans for a few days to help my parents with their house (hurricane, flooding), so I called Al and told him I'd turn over more evidence to the F.B.I. if he didn't cover for me. Needless to say, he agreed and wrote a killer column about character aging. I've heard they really don't like chicken hawks in prison, so I don't blame him.


Al proposed a series of universe reboots every few years a la the Marvel Ultimate line to solve the character aging quandary. While I fear such a plan would lead to continuity nightmares like the pre-CRISIS DC Universe (not to mention more epic can't-miss summer crossovers), he offered an interesting idea to a perplexing problem how long can you write Spider-Man as 30 years old before it borders on ridiculous? If it were up to me, I'm not sure I'd go with Al's plan, but I can't really think of a better one, either.


Last week, I read this bit of spitfire from Image editor-in-chief and Comic Book Resources staff writer, Erik Larson. Click the link later here's the gist: Larson calls most of the comic industry a bunch of pussies for relying on established properties over creating their own characters. He says, "There are thousands of stories that will never be told. Thousands of characters that will never be created. And for what? So we can have more stories of Aquaman and Green Lantern and Daredevil and New Warriors[?] So we can see another character from the X-Men 'in their own book at last'[?]"


Before either of those, I wrote my now-classic rant on the dominance of superheroes in the market. I pointed fingers, named names, and kicked unholy ass as I urged everyone to check out different genres. While I don't intend to use this week's COMICSCAPE to recount everything I've read recently, those three pieces made me wonder about the future of the comic industry and superheroes, in particular. Much as it pains me to say it, I can't help but wonder if some of our beloved characters need to be put out to pasture.


All right, down boy! Get that mouse pointer away from the Outlook icon and take a deep breath. Just read the column, and then you can send me hate mail and leave flaming bags of dog crap on my doorstep (damn kids!). I really just want to stimulate debate and hear what you think, because I don't even know where I stand right now. After you read this, drop me a line at either kurtamacker@yahoo.com or comicscape@cinescape.com and I'll run your letters next week.


I remain unsure about the fate of so many four-color heroes. I love the classic superheroes most of us grew up with, but the industry relies on the same characters that carried it for the latter half of the 20th century. Instinctively, I (and many of you) ask, "So what? Just because Batman's still around, it doesn't mean that we can't try new comics." In a perfect world, that might hold true. We don't need to take Shakespeare out of print or off the stage to make room for new literature and theater. However, the book market remains more accommodating for new material, and it isn't a niche market. Comic readers shell out more money for their fix than the average bibliophile when's the last time you paid $120 a month for books? In a crowded market where new titles fight for shelf space and reader cash, a new X-Men series can be the difference between trying a new title or not.


Of course, these superheroes remain in our hearts and on our pull lists because they resonate with us. No one forces us to buy yet another Spider-Man title (or the accompanying crossover) in lieu of an edgy independent book. Ultimately, though, art must break new ground. The industry spins its wheels, relying on characters created as long as 70 years ago. Pop culture refuses to let anything die. Christ, MGM/UA (now Sony) still makes James Bond films, long after the series descended into repetition and self-parody. After THE DEAD POOL came out and up until recently, rumors circulated about yet another Dirty Harry movie and Clint Eastwood's 75 years old! The first film will be remade instead, further proving my point. I don't mean to stray into sequel-bashing, but the same principle applies to ongoing comic series. People can't just like something without wanting more of it. Yet, everyone fails to realize that if you enjoy something, it will still be there. MACBETH still kicks ass, but no one's asking for the further adventures of MacDuff. Comic writers (and Hollywood, for that matter) should concentrate on creating new stories to excite everyone, not dragging out tried and true properties long past their prime. If Marvel stopped publishing Spider-Man titles tomorrow, over 500 issues of material would remain that we can revisit until the end of time. The greatest stories never get old.


Then again, comic heroes merely renew old character archetypes. Superman is to Hercules as Batman is to Hamlet. Heroes haven't changed much since THE ODYSSEY and GILGAMESH. The details have changed, but the essence stays the same. One wonders if new heroes would serve any purpose, or if they would just similarly fill the niche. For that matter, the heroes we read today look very different compared to their older incarnations. Golden and Modern Age Batman have superficial things in common, but they seem like different characters. WIZARD published a funny piece about that a few months ago (you may recall that the old Batman used to kill thugs with abandon). Practically speaking, it may not matter if we buy the same superheroes, different superheroes, or anything else. I doubt that on your death bed, you'll look up, and mumble, "Why, oh why, did I pick up GAMBIT instead of CEREBUS that month?" Most art simply kills time, and very few works change the direction of our lives. And yet, every work has the potential to do so. Nothing stands in your way of writing the next masterpiece. Larson challenged comic creators to do just that, and I agree with him.


I must admit, doing away with so many beloved characters could kill the industry. When you e-mail me, tell me if you'd continue reading comic books without Spider-Man, Batman, or your other favorites. I know I would, but I may be in the minority. Frankly, I'd rather repetitive comics than none at all. I love the medium as much or more than the genres. I don't want the industry to die, but rather, to branch out and to new territory. We, the readers, contribute to this problem (me included). I still pick up AMAZING SPIDER-MAN every month, and yet, I've asked myself if I really enjoy it anymore, or if I'm just going through the motions.


But, we have a practical problem no one can force the industry to act as a whole. The comic business doesn't have a dictator that can kill all characters older than ten years. However, the industry can embrace trends and move in new directions. As we discussed a few weeks ago, measured, dialogue-heavy stories have supplanted action titles with idiotic titles like DARKSHATTERZ or whatever. But, no one issued an executive order the companies just responded to what sold, thus dumping the responsibility back in the readers' laps. Conceivably, the industry could gradually replace old characters with new ones. Hell, we saw an influx of new characters in the '70s and again in the '90s, but many of them haven't survived (ROM, anyone? How about Quasar?). Admittedly, the industry clawed its way back to respectability with successful film adaptations and reemphasizing classic characters the very ones that may have finally worn out their welcome. But, the writers should be inspired enough to create their own successful properties, rather than milking characters created by Bob Kane, Jack Kirby, and Stan Lee last century.


Again, I'm not even sure where I stand. I don't know that some sort of mass killing is the answer, and I'm sure I'd be sad if Batman died and everything, but the industry needs an adrenaline shot. What do you think?


New This Week
By Al Brown and Kurt Amacker

DARK HORSE

Apocalypse Nerd #2 $2.99
Al: A Mad Max-style post-apocalyptic scenario, except that our hero is not Mel Gibson but some random, incompetent middle-management cubicle slave type. C'mon, that's hilarious.
Kurt: Speaking of Max, George Miller and Mel Gibson need to put their heads together before Mel gets too old to kick ass in the outback or before he starts on another controversial religious film. FURY ROAD has been in development for what, like ten years now? Get on the ball, guys!

Blade Of The Immortal #106 (MR) (note Price) $3.99

Super Manga Blast #56 (MR) $5.99

DC COMICS

100 Bullets #65 (MR) $2.75

Action Comics #832 $2.50

Astro City Local Heroes TP $17.99

Batman Legends Of The Dark Knight #196 $2.50

Batman Strikes #14 $2.25

Breach #10 $2.50

Doom Patrol Vol 3 Down Paradise Way TP (MR) $19.99
The phrase "Down Paradise Way" may also be found in this poem by some old lady named Joyce Hemsley, which I only point out to you because it's a serious contender for the worst poem ever written. She totally says "Kisses pure as a dove from above". Really, shockingly awful. "Down Paradise Way" is also the name of a song by old school orchestra legend Jack Hylton, which can be Real-downloaded right here and which sounds so perfectly like the background music to a black-and-white cartoon that you will not be able to resist hitting someone in the head with a sledgehammer. In other news, this trade collects issues 35-41 and introduces Danny the Street, who is a living transvestite street. Grant Morrison rules. And that "Danny the Street" link goes to some guy who's compiled an insanely exhaustive list of gay and lesbian characters in comic books, so good on him. Except he missed Karolina Dean from Runaways. I totally emailed him about it. I was so bummed when her and Niko ended up not making out...God, alien lesbian makeout session! Hold on, I have to go to the bathroom.

Fables #42 (MR) $2.75
Okay, back! This issue begins the "Arabian Nights (and Days)" storyline, which promises to introduce a ton of new, non-European fables. Sounds like a blast, and like a good jumping-on point for you newbies.

Firestorm #18 $2.50

Green Arrow #55 $2.50
Al's pet name for "little Al." All right, that was kind of lame, but at least I'm trying. What have you done lately!?

Green Lantern Rebirth HC $24.99

JLA #120 $2.50
A story arc with more yelling and tearful confessions than an episode of PASSIONS.

Majestic #10 $2.99

Nightwing #113 $2.50

Scooby Doo #101 $2.25
SCOOBY DOO 101? That sounds like that community college class Al took last semester. They teach you how to solve easy mysteries (blame the elderly), talk to your dog, and find courage in fattening snack foods (Scooby Snacks).

Villains United #6 (of 6) $2.50
Al: You're not supposed to have to read all the Infinite Crisis titles to get what's going on, but I've read most of them and I totally don't get it. Maybe this will help. I doubt it.
Kurt: Forgive my lack of vitriolic cynicism, but I've really enjoyed this series.

Wildcats Nemesis #2 (of 9) $2.99

IMAGE

City Of Heroes #6 $2.99
Based on a MMORPG and written by Mark Waid, who takes the game's premise - when heroes "die" they get teleported to the hospital and instantly healed, which makes sense for the game - and imagines that the system suddenly breaks down. All the heroes that were getting a bit cocky, since after all they couldn't really die anyway, suddenly have to deal with a much more dire reality. Waid, of course, is one of our best writers, and he's got an amazing ability to make nearly anything interesting. (Similar to Greg Pak, who constantly gets the most absolutely thankless jobs Marvel has, and always tries valiantly to make them not suck.) So anyway: this is far from a must-read, but it doesn't blow as many chunks as it ought to either. Is it me or am I even more long-winded than usual today?

Mage The Hero Defined Vol 1 TP $9.95

Ring Of Roses TP (RES) $13.99

Sea Of Red #5 (MR) $2.99

MARVEL

Cable Deadpool #21 $2.99
How the hell has this lasted 21 issues? Anything spawned from the twisted psyche of Rob Leifeld shouldn't last 21 pages! For shame!

Essential Spider-Man Vol 7 TP $16.99

Essential Werewolf By Night Vol 1 TP $16.99
Now I sing the "I Love Marvel" song! But just this once!

Exiles #71 $2.99

Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #1 $2.99
Al: Wait, is this a new ongoing series? What's going on here? All I know is that it's the start of a mega-crossover spanning 4 books, 3 months and 12 parts. Yech.
Kurt: This is...I just...god damn it. I'm seriously thinking about dropping the one Spidey title I read just because of this crossover.

Ghost Rider #2 (of 6) $2.99
This month: will anything actually happen? Tune in to find out! Or, y'know, don't.

Ghost Rider Directors Cut #1 $3.99
Al: Featuring full-frontal skull nudity!
Kurt: So, you're into the whole Calysta Flockheart anorexic angel thing? God, Al, when will it end?

Gravity #5 (of 5) $2.99
This has been a really fun little miniseries. Sean McKeever deserves a regular writing gig, and hopefully now that he's part of the "Ten Terrific" writers at Marvel (why do they insist on making superheroes teams out of everything?) he'll get it.

House Of M #7 (of 8) $2.99
Dun-duh! It's the penultimate issue, in which things had damn well better start happening!

House Of M Larroca Variant Cover #7 (of 8) (PP #684) $2.99

Livewires Clockwork Thugs Yo Digest TP $7.99
Remember when I was yelling about how awesome this series is and how you should buy the trade when it comes out? Here it is.

Marvel Adventures Fantastic Four #5 $2.50

Marvel Knights 4 #23 $2.99
Hee hee, it's Impossible Man. That dude cracks me up.

Marvel Masterworks Golden Age Human Torch Vol 1 HC Var ED $54.99
I'm sure if you told the guys at Timely that worked on this material that there'd be two covers strictly to stimulate the collectors' market, they'd have a good, hard laugh. Then, they'd kick your ass. Men were tougher in those days.

Marvel Masterworks Golden Age Human Torch Vol 1 New ED HC #1 $49.99

Marvel Milestones Blade Man-Thing & Satana $3.99

Marvel Monsters Where Monsters Dwell $3.99
Al: Clearly Marvel is (slowly and cautiously) trying to reintroduce their horror line, and I'm psyched about it in theory. I'm not sure how I feel about their strategy, though; so far they're going the campy, old-school route. I think a dark, serious reintroduction of the characters - under the Knights imprint - would be more effective. As it is, the attempt seems half-assed and easily ignorable.
Kurt: I have to agree with Al, here. The only other time I've agreed with him was when he decided to leave the country. But seriously, I love horror. I'll probably check these books out (well, maybe not DEVIL DINOSAUR), but they look a little on the light side for me.

Marvel Nemesis Imperfects #6 (of 6) $2.99

Mega Morphs #4 (of 4) $2.99

Mutopia X #4 (of 5) $2.99

She Hulk Vol 1 Single Green Female TP $14.99

Spellbinders Signs And Wonders Digest TP $7.99
I've put some thought into it, and I don't think there's any other conclusion: this series has no reason to exist. Sorta like Heath Ledger.

Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 11 Carnage TP $12.99

Ultimate X-Men #64 $2.50

Wolverine #34 $2.50
Welcome back to the House of M. The last issue was surprisingly decent.

X-Men Bizarre Love Triangle TP $9.99
You know, this just begs to be mocked, but I think I'm out of jokes.


Questions? Comments? Let us know what you think at comicscape@cinescape.com.



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• Oct 12, 2005, 11:14am •
I think the idea of killing or ageing the traditional heroes in an effort to revitalize the industry might be mistaking the problem somewhat.

Would killing Doc Sampson, The Shadow, The Green Hornet and the other Plup heroes have saved the pulp magazine industry? No, if anything it would have killed it quicker.

Now I love comics, few things make me happier than getting a big ol stack of new comics on Wednesday and lossing several hours reading about Spider-Man, Captain America, the FF, ect.

That said, I think we are the declining period of the industry. Hopefully comics won't cease to exist the way the Pulps, Dime Novels, or Penny Dreadfuls did. Hopefully they will survive the end of their hayday better than the Sunday Funnies have. But no matter what happens I doubt comics will ever be anything other than a niche market from here on out.

I think there are certain characters who be come permenantly liked with a particular medium, and while they may experience temporary success in other mediums, it is their existance in the parent medium that keeps them going. Batman movies will come and go, but with out the comics Hollywood is unlikey to pay him much attention. These characters also end up being the supports that keep their parent medium alive. Kill off Batman, Superman, Spider-Man and the X-Men... permenatly... a there will be even fewer new readers picking up their first comic.

Well, this has been rather wandering and random, but it was mostly a stream of consiousness thing. So take it for what it's worth.

• Oct 12, 2005, 12:08pm •
I'm a Marvel fan, but I just don't purchase comics in the established lines, like Amazing Spider-Mad. I haven't collected such Marvel titles since the Onslaught cross-over. I was sorely tempted by Josh Whedon turn on Amazing X-Men, but I thought, fuck it, there's too much continuity that I've lost out on. Scott Summers was with the White Queen because Jean Grey was dead, again, and I had no idea how she died, again.

I do collect the Ultimate imprint (excluding X-Men, which lost me when they're story line started to wonder like a snake with hives), because I was there at the beginning.

• Oct 12, 2005, 12:58pm •
Frankly I have to agree, if only somewhat, with this article. Yes the industry should have some responsibility in nurturing the characters that they, or others, have created. When I say "nurture" I mean "grow" folks.

It's ridiculous to think that a character is eternally in his/her 30's and that the multitude's of stories take place in JUST that decade of the character's life. Eventually, everything has it's conclusion.

Why not explore what happens as these characters get "up there" in age? How about we see Spidey, Supes or another character hit a wall in their life? How would Peter Parker, a.k.a. Spiderman, deal with his powers and life were he to have children? Get too old for the super hero life?

One of the most brilliant, albeit self serving, storylines for a character was getting cancer. Marvel, because they were being sued over the name "Captain Marvel" decided to kill, rather suddenly, the character due to a disease firmly rooted in OUR reality.

DC, for the same purpose (so to speak) killed off several characters during "Crisis On The Infite Earths" (as mentioned in the article). Honestly I admire DC for not being afraid to kill off some of those characters. They could've easily justified not killing The Flash, Supergirl and others... but the went ahead and did so anyway. (Granted they brought them back in other forms... sad they they couldn't stick to their guns.)

Bottom line: In order for a comic book to grow the characters themselves need to grow in a natural fashion. If these characters are allowed to grow so will the inkers, artists, story writers and the business.

And really, how often can you read the same stories with the same characters?


• Oct 12, 2005, 02:27pm •
I do agree that certain characters need a reboot every so often. The Marvel characters much more so than DC. This is because the main DC characters are really timeless. Batman and Superman are iconic characters that have become timeless. Batman is the epitomizes the human will, stresses the intelligence of men and showcases our subconscious desire to see something to its final end. Superman is the virtual incarnation of everything good in humanity. He is the ideal in every way. That is not to say that other DC characters don't need to be updated. Obviously Robin can't be Robin forever.

The principle Marvel heroes represent are specific manifestations of the cultural issues of their days. The X-men is well known to be a literary representation of the clashes arising in the civil rights movement. The Hulk was our version of Godzilla - the result of technology (atomic/gamma) gone awry, techology used without wisdom or foresight. Spiderman is the most human of Marvel's gallary of heroes - and the way he is written today is the best reason why characters need a reboot every now and again.

Spiderman was jo everyman in highschool. He didn't do the right thing as a yough and spends the rest of his life trying to atone for the misuse of his great powers. But his powers are grounded in the situation he finds himself in. The life of a teenager is hard enough, but now he finds himself not only taking his first timid steps into human relationships but at the same time he has to deal with all these new abilities.

He is living every nerd's dream at the same time he's living every one one of their nightmare. He's powerful enough to fight back against those who torment him, but he can't do so and has to take it. Not because he can't defend himself, but because he's becoming a better man than the Flash Thomsons of the world.

It is in the interplay of this drama that Peter Parker becomes so compelling. But once you reach 30, you really are

• Oct 12, 2005, 02:27pm •
the man you will be the rest of your life.

The life blood of comic books are young people - kids, teenagers and young adults. I think comics are a medium that people have to disgard at some point in their lives because they are no longer relevant to them. I gave them up for about 10 years, and when I came back to them I was older and looking for something different, but familiar.

Take for example Strangers in Paradise. That's a comic book I never could have read as a kid. I wasn't old or wise enough to recognize some of myself in the characters Terry Moore created back then. But having lived life, I can read that book and reflect on some of the things that have happened to me. I would rather read SiP than anyday of the week over spiderman now. Spiderman as a 30 yearold with problems is a fantasy that is so disconnected from reality that it borders on the absurd. That is not to say that I don't like spiderman anymore, because i love him and what he was to me.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that we identify with heroes in our youth, because we haven't lived life yet. People tell us these guys are heroes and they wear colorful costumes and have great powers and do wonderous things. But after you've been around for a while you come to the realization that even ordinary people are much more interesting.

• Oct 12, 2005, 04:55pm •
What I don't get is why they can't compromise? The Flash is a good example. There is a Golden Age Flash named Jay Garrick. He was followed by a Silver Age Flash named Barry Allen who died in THE Crisis. And now, Wally West. Three different characters with three different lives and life events shaping their stories, all benefiting from the same costume and moniker in order to entice traditionally narrow-minded fans.

You get the benefit of a legacy of stories that appeals to the continuity inclined while still being able to reboot every now and then. And in the case of the Golden Age Flash, his age is not ignored (some kind of magical spell keeps him young). Meanwhile, the Silver Age's Flash has kept his imprint on modern stories without needing to BE resurrected (ala the travesty of Bucky/Winter Soldier)... at least thus far.

There is a long-standing tradition of heroes passing their mantle down to successors, i.e. The Phantom or even more fascinatingly The Green Hornet who was a grand-nephew of the Lone Ranger... and at least to this fan, a much more exciting character.

I mean... in the end, how many retellings of Bruce Wayne's ascension into the role of Batman can we stand to have retold. Wouldn't it be a little more original to see what happens to Dick Grayson if he takes on the mantle? Or see Jason Todd take on Grayson and Tim Drake for the honor?

Familiarity breeds contempt, but the industry could definitely have their cake and eat it too, by considering this option... a speculation that may become a reality if some of the clues we're gleaning from DC's Infinite Crisis are interpreted correctly.

• Oct 12, 2005, 06:57pm •
I am amazed no one has brought up the one example of a mainstream superhero title where the continuity was maintained for literally decades as the characters grew from teenagers to adults.

I speak of course of The Legion of Superheroes.

I know it might be difficult for younger readers to believe, given how over the past decade LSH has been rebooted what seems like once every other month, but from their original introduction through the ‘Zero Hour’ crossover in the mid nineties LSH’s continuity and history was basically continuous.

For nearly three decades we watched them grow from teenage heroes to adults. There were deaths (actual permanent deaths) among the team. Characters married and had children. We saw real growth and change. The continuity survived pretty much intact through multiple creative teams and major crossovers (it was the only book to come out of CRISIS relatively untouched).

New characters were introduced to keep the book fresh. The roster was always changing. At the same time the core characters (Lighting Lad, Saturn Girl, Cosmic Boy) were still around going from overconfident teens heroes to competent skilled adults to the ‘elder’ statesmen of the team.

It proves that it is possible to weave a story arc through decades and have the characters age and change over time and still sell books.

I would love to see a book like that again.

In fact now that I think about it, it was right after ‘Zero Hour’ wiped out LSH’s continuity that I went from buying around $20 worth of comics a week to less than $50 bucks a year on the occasional trade paperback or interesting mini.





• Oct 12, 2005, 08:01pm •
it would have fantastic had superman stayed dead. other DC heroes would rally to save metropolis, but they fail miserably, and lois lives to tell the story, only to realize this isn't anyone around anymore to listen.

• Oct 12, 2005, 08:02pm •
"there isn't"

me and my damn english.

• Oct 13, 2005, 03:07pm •
The real reason why things don't change? The Fanboys.

Gwen Stacy had kids!?! Kill JMS!!

Bring back Hal Jordan from the dead?!? But I like Kyle better, even though I never buy the comic *whine*.

Whenever someone tries to change the status quo, the fanboys kvetch and whine. Remember when the Ultimate line was introduced? People were saying it would never work, or that they'd never buy an issue. Here we are a few years down the road, and the Ultimates line has its own HeroClix release.

The movie industry and the comic book industry are essentially the same. They both pump out a majority of crap that sells because they need to make a profit to stay in business. There's a small percentage of the stuff coming out that is really good, yet not a lot of people buy the really good stuff.

Kurt made the analogy of bibliophiles not spending $120 a month on books, whereas the average comic book reader does. I don't think that analogy is fair because usually a bibliophile can't sell their old books for more than what they bought them for in the first place. Comic books are art. They appreciate and depreciate in value more so than a novel, and with so much art to choose from out there people usually don't make very good decisions on their purchases.

For me personally, if the story line becomes weak (yes, Conan, I'm talking to you) I dump the comic and move on to something else. It also helps that my friend owns the comic store that I go to, and that we have very similiar tastes in comics. This way if something cool comes out that he likes, he'll put a copy in my saver to take a look at.

Things won't change in comics because of the people reading them. They want to be able to recognize the character that they grew up with as a kid. Remember Superman Blue and Red? Or when Superman returned from the dead with reduced power? How long did that last before he reverted back to the Supes we all know?

With less children reading comics, the change tha

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