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DarthBob 10/16/2012 6:51:40 AM

@whiskey...you're not the only one that wasn't blown away by this. No Bane venom but yet he can punch a concrete pillar without breaking every bone in his hand. Too much stuff like this made this a very meh movie for me; glad others liked it though. I have no problem with Nolan's vision for Batman, just the fact that he made a Batman movie that wasn't about Batman. Also, the Batman in this movie is some wussified character that isn't the world's greatest detective.  He went 2 for 3 in my book and went yard on TDK!

alienstatue 10/16/2012 10:30:37 AM

Enjoyed it and will definitely get it.

I still think they could have turned TDKR into two movies. Not saying they should have, just saying if you think about the scope of the story, Bane, Bruce getting back to gotham, Blake the cop, hostage cops, Miranda. It's definitely enough to make a two part movie.

 

vitieddie 10/17/2012 4:10:34 AM

 Am gonna play moderate on this topic and say will def get this and Avengers for my library ... 

Still undecided on Prometheus ... will prob wait for that excellent sequel first

DarthoftheDead 10/17/2012 10:26:16 AM

 @EIBaz - I heard that Wiseguy loved TDKR so much, that he's trying to get a job being Nolan's Assistant.

jorson28 10/18/2012 5:05:40 PM

It's too long, Bane's voice is awkwardly inconsistent, Catwoman is ultimately uninsteresting and unsympathetic, Bruce's prison escape is not believable and, yes, there are too many "conveniences," the two most blaring being the last minute inclusion of Talia and Nolan's end-run around his promise never to use Robin.  It tries to hit too many birds with one stone. I get why it was done, but I think it was a waste to have Bane take over the whole city and for Batman to only really deal with it at the very end. They could have at least waited until Batman had tried and failed to end the actual occupation once before "conveniently" sending him away.  Also, I read somewhere that Nolan had to be convinced into using the Selina Kyle/Catwoman character because he was initially reticent and I must say that while Hathaway does a good job with what she's given, Nolan should have either stuck to his guns or made her a more central character.  Granting that she was always going to kind of straddle the fence between good and evil and end up in some sort of romantic entanglement with Bruce Wayne/Batman, it should have been something DEVELOPED from beginning to end.  Instead, it's an afterthought which takes a backseat to the shoehorning of "Miranda Tate" as an excuse to foreshadow the relevance of the League of Assassins and turn her into Talia in the last few minutes, as she even talks like Ra's at the charity ball about saving and bringing "balance" to the world, etc.  And by the way, I can't judge her acting, but Ms. Cotillard's voice in this moive is, for at least 2/3's of it, almost gratingly high-pitched and aristocratic with an annoying (in this case) French accent.

Still, it's a very well-produced movies with good performances (if not great) and a story that might have been better had it been paired down and retooled a bit.  It DOES, I think, do what few thought could be done satisfactorily and end the story of Bruce Wayne as Batman while doing justice to and further illustrating the point of Batman being and his effectiveness as a symbol more than anything else.  Regardless of what Nolan says, at the end of the day, I think this really was a "contractual obligation," not just to Warner Brothers, but to the miriad of fans that have embraced Nolan's vision for Batman.  On that level, it really is a good movie and one of, if not the best "third" films in the cinematic superhero genre.  While I stand by my crtiiques, I have to say that I don't think they would mean so much had Nolan not set the bar so high and, of course, had he not been so insistent upon realism and believability from the very beginning before taking such blatant liberties with those things in a movie like this. 

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