Great episode and I'm with you on Debra's Wolverine healing. I also don't think Trinity killed Lundy, his reaction to seeing it on tv was one of almost suprise. I was leaning towards Anton, you know the jealous boyfriend with a criminal past. It might be a stretch but the fact that she only got shot once unlike Lundy who got the double tap treatment sugests whoever shot her might of wanted to hurt her but not kill her.
Did you mean unpredictable ending? Because to tell you the truth I didn't see that coming. But it was awesome and put a whole new dynamic to the situation and I think it's going to start making Dexter reevaluate a lot things about himself.
Why does everybody think the reporter chick is the Tourist Killer/s? I don' t get it. But whatever. I'm sure it wasn't them or Trinity and I'm almost positive it was Anton that killed Lundy and wounded Debra. Both of them are what some people might call predictable but Trinity to me is too predictable and the reporter is too out there.
As for Debra being up and about after being wounded - I've seen it, heard about, been through it - though I've never been shot - so it's not impossible. It's not recommended but it's not impossible.
How many more episodes do we have left? I hope there's no break like the other networks.
Great episode, but I think you guys are making the story way more complex than it is. Those two idiots were the tourist killers. The guy was just some whacked out 2 bit theif. I think that story arc is over and they'll just move on to another case, but its what has happened which is more important. Laguarda having to transfer.
I have two theories on who killed Lundy and shot Deb. The first seems logical and that it was Trinity. He had the most to gain getting Lundy out the way and he did look guilty while watching the news, which he seems to feel after he kills.
My second throey which seems a little out there given his reaction in the hospital was that it was Anton who shot Lundy and Deb, which could be the possible reason that Deb is still alive. He probably followed them, and saw that they were kissing and in a fit of anger shot them. Now, this seems a little more far fetched because if thats the case Deb has really really bad taste in men, (Ice Truck Killer).
Ponyboy just blew my mind. I think you are right. I assumed it was Trinity, but I was explaining the episode to a coworker and it didn't jive -why would they have left it a mystery since we get to see Trinity's day to day stuff usually. please check out http://www.persona-non-grata.com maniacs
I think it was Anton who shot Lundy and Deb too. The guy who plays Anton is a pretty good actor but when you watched his interaction with Deb this episode it just felt kind of fake, like it was Anton playing along.
I totally agree about Deb healing too fast. You get shot in the gut and you're not going anywhere fast.
Last week I predicted Deb would have a total meltdown if Lundy died, and man, did Deb lose it this week. Great acting job by Jennifer Carpenter who plays Deb, I was really feeling that moment.
Since we've all got our favorite theories, here's a wild one I'll just put out there -- maybe Lundy's not dead? We never saw his corpse for real. We just saw Masuka standing over a tarp. And last week Masuka was supposedly on vacation. But what if he's really working with Lundy on some secret mission? Someone like Masuka would jump to be a part of an opportunity like that.
The purpose for pretending that Lundy's dead would be so the shooter wouldn't have another opportunity to target him in the hospital.
I know, it's pretty wild, but I think there's still a small chance Lundy is alive. He's a great character anyway, and at some point I was expecting him to discover who Dexter really was.
Not everyone thinks it's the reporter that shot Lundy and Debb.....that's me. And perhaps I am making the story more complicated that what it really is, who knows. But if I'm wrong about her and she's not a tourist killer and that astory arc is done, then that was the weakest story of the series. The main reason I'm possibly looking way too much into it is because the show is usually not always as it appears. Plus the reporter just popped up out of nowhere so I can't help believe that something is up about her....
If it is, indeed, Anton...to me that would be just be blah. It's not a far-fetched theory, but I just feel it wouldn't be as entertaining....but I'm not a script writer so what do I know?
As for the theory that it may have been Trinity shooting Lundy, I'm with Chopsaki on that one. He seemed a bit disappointed while watching the news....perhaps that's why he had a hard time controlling his anger with the waitress? Because someone else got to Lundy before he? Or because someone ended Lundy's life and Trinity was looking forward to a game of cat and mouse? Dunno.
As far is Debb's healing, I agree with everyone else that it appeared too fast.
The thing about Anton being the shooter is that it isn't far fetched at all, but only to the viewer. To the characters it would be a huge deal, especially to Deb and then to top it off, Dexter would probably have to go and kill him. I mean, Deb and Anton have been living together for like a year and supposedly loved each other. For him to actually have done would be devasting for all involved.
I also would really call the Tourist Killer arc weak, if it did indeed end. I mean usually in the show they are working on a few smaller cases while a much larger case is going on which will involve Dexter. Its just that this time Trinity isn't an official case, but it is the huge case going on through the season. It wouldn't make sense to have a more than one huge serial killer arc going on during the season. I think Trinity is enough, not to mention all the family changes in Dexter's life.
I agree Pony. Trinity and Dex's family life would have been enough to carry the season if done right. I would have been alright with them leaving out the tourist killer arc. But the main reason I question whether or not it's actually over is because of the woman claiming the guy cheated on her. It could be nothing, but then again, it could be something. I guess I'll just have to wait and see....but I'm definately curious as to what's going to happen.
Gotta say it again, I believe Anton shot Lundy and Deb. Yes, Trinity knew that Lundy was tracking him and may have been worried, but that's not his style at all or his "ritual." Also, Deb even acknowledged the fact that she was shot first. Now why would Trinity even bother with her? He has no idea who she is. No, no, the shooting was by a jealous lover. Anton loves Deb and wouldn't want her dead, just to hurt as much as he is because she's cheating on him. Likewise, he HATES Lundy because he's stealing Deb from him. He most definitely would want him dead. That's why first Anton shot Deb once in the gut (not usually a moral wound unless you bleed out but the cops got there too quick, pausibly called in by Anton) and then he made sure to kill Lundy with two shots.
I also agree that Trinity's reaction to Lundy's death was a mixture of shock, sadness (because of the loss of the cat and mouse hunt), and anger that he didn't off Lundy himself.
Something also tells me this Tourist Killers story arc is not finished. It was too simple for a show like Dexter. Skrion, you're right in that if it is over then it was the weakest story arc off all the series.
Ponyboy, LaGuerta is the one having to transfer. The bossman wants her to transfer Batista.
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Awesome awesome awesome episode!
Definately looking forward to the interactions between Dex and Trinity.
I still believe it wasn't Trinity that killed Lundy, though. But I could be wrong.
I'm also not so sure I'd say the tourist killer arc has fully ended just yet. The chick that was arrested for shooting the killer claimed that he was cheating on her since, as I take it, she had no idea the dude had an STD. So to me, I think the chick arrested was just a pissed-off girlfriend. Perhaps a tourist killer did get killed, but perhaps he had an accomplice.....
Which leads me to my theory that the reporter Quinn's banging is still involved in the tourist killings. Perhaps she was the one the guy was involved with and the STD carrier that gave it to the guy killed. I'm just waiting for Quinn to test positive for an STD and put 2 and 2 together. After all, what's a better cover than being a reporter that's covering the tourist killings and involved with a cop that's working the case? As I said before, I believe Trinity didn't kill Lundy and wound Debb....but the reporter. But also I said before, I could be wrong.
Anyways, this episode was perfect and I loved the revenge aspect of it. It seems Dexter is really evolving into something more. But I'm curious, exactly how many episodes are left in this season? All the previous seasons had 12 episodes and this is only episode 5....yet seems to already almost be wrapped up and done with story-wise.