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Hobbs 3/30/2011 6:55:13 AM

LOTR had a lot of flaws...especially the books.  Peter Jackson made the ring out to be something that gave Sauron super powers but otherwise I never understood what the big deal of the ring was other than the fact it was evil.  One ring to rule them all, rule what?  The seven rings given to the humans made them all Nazgul so Sauron was already controlling them.  The dwarves lost most of theirs and only one ring was left for the elves or something like that.  

karas1 3/30/2011 7:05:57 AM

How about saving a planet from it's star going nova by turning the star into a black hole instead.

karas1 3/30/2011 7:09:12 AM

Hobbs, I think the one ring held part of Sauron's soul.  Destroying it destroyed Sauron.

And the 3 elven rings weren't destroyed.  Gandalf had one and Gladeriel had one.  I think the other one was held by Elrond though I could be wrong.

6dra6on6 3/30/2011 7:12:46 AM

Signs: Aliens that die from water show up on Earth wearing no protective clothing whatsoever - in fact, they were NAKED!!! Also, with the technology to travel beyond light speed you'd think they'd have put clothing on, unless they're hippie/nudist aliens... But it boils down to having that kind of advanced technology the aliens wouldn't have to revert to hiding and making primitive crop circles, they'd just show up(dressed in water-resistant clothing) and announce we belong to them and any resistance would be delt with easily.

HotDogs 3/30/2011 7:29:30 AM


It's explained in the first Terminator movie that only objects surrounding by organic tissue can time-travel. Hence why Kyle Reese and the Terminator are both naked.

But where does this leave the T-1000, who is made entirely from liquid metal and therefore has no tissue matter at all?

 

moonsunne 3/30/2011 7:49:07 AM

 War of The Worlds

Aliens can't breathe our atmosphere. Nice planning.

SmokingFrog77 3/30/2011 7:50:37 AM

RObert Patrick insisted on being naked. He's a hardcore naturist and refused to be in the movie if he couldn't have his kit off in at least one scene. Seriously. (not)

 

I have to agree with Hanso on the "Signs" issue, this is one of my beefs with the criticism of the film - everyone presumes that a) the aliens would avoid water because it's dangerous to them, just like we avoid the vacuum of outer space, the crushing depths of the ocean and cows (which will inevitably turn on us and kill us all - they outnumber us and are much bigger than us - how could they not be plotting our deaths?), and b) that they actually knew water was toxic to them!  I mean, are we to presume that they came from a planet where H20 even exists in that form? They were life yes, but possibly not as we know it, Jim. Do we think that when we finally achieve interplanetary/interstellar travel that we WON'T have a few "oooopsies" where we step off the ship only to find the atmosphere melts our eyes? Those who criticise the film presume they would have somehow known water was toxic to them, and those who defend the film presume they musn't have known. A point to be debated to be sure, if anyone cares, but hardly an open and shut plot-hole.

djphillips25 3/30/2011 8:02:35 AM

Another LOTR explanation is that they didn't have access to the eagles. Remember that the eagles gave Gandalf a ride to Rivendell where he reunited with Frodo and they didn't decide to destroy the ring until they had that council meeting, by which time the eagle had left. The fellowship then tried to go up through the mountains and then back through the mines of Moria with no sign of the little butterfly-like thing that Gandalf had used to call the eagle. Then Frodo lost the companionship of Gandalf in the mines. And I do agree that they would been shot down by orcs or attacked by Nazgul way before they reached Mount Doom if they did have the eagles help.

And as for why then Death Star didn't blow up the planet Yavin to destroy the moon quicker is that Yavin was a gas giant and the Death Star's superlaser wasn't capable of destroying gas giants. It could only destroy solid objects such as terrestrial planets and rebel cruisers.

Wiseguy 3/30/2011 8:09:48 AM

@SmokingFrog77, I think 6dra6on6 answered your question. Humans can't space travel like those aliens but we're smart enough to wear protective clothing to help us adapt where ever we venture to. Theses smart dumbass aliens didn't even have ponchos with them in case of rain. Don't we send robots and sensors out first to gauge where we're going, you'd think the aliens would know better than to come bareass

SarcasticCaveman 3/30/2011 8:15:15 AM

 NINE rings were gifted to men, who became the Naz Gul.  I think Kara is right on who the Elven ring bearers were.  Sauron's plan was to make a ring to control and corrupt all the others, but it pretty much only worked on humans...the elves couldn't be corrupted, and I honestly don't know what happened to the dwarfs with their seven rings.

As for Signs, at the end, the guy on the radio was saying that the aliens came here to harvest us...again, WHY are you harvesting beings who are also 70% water?  Slave labor?  Our sweat can kill you, morons.  Maybe if there was something else in our bodies they could use as a natural resource, I guess...just seems like a LOT of trouble.

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