Fan Beefs Part I: The 6 Biggest Plot Holes in Genre Cinema Comments - Mania.com



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MrJawbreakingEquilibrium 3/30/2011 8:19:35 AM

That argument about how did Joker get all these people to follow him is silly. How do peolple like Charles Manson, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Gadaffi, Saddam Hussein, etc get people to follow them when they are clearly mad men? I can maybe see the last two but not the others. Stuff like that happens all the time. I don't see that as unrealistic at all.

As for the bombs in the hospital. I'm sure there is a way. Again, it's not like anything similair has never happened anywhere. He could have had it done a little bit at a time over a long period of time just waiting for an excuse to implement the bomb whether it was for the reason he used or another reason that might have came up.

MrJawbreakingEquilibrium 3/30/2011 8:24:06 AM

Sarcastic Caveman, um , we harvest and use a lot of things that are toxic to us. No?

SarcasticCaveman 3/30/2011 8:40:17 AM

 So going to a 70% acid planet to harvest 70% acid beings makes sense on some level?  

Sorry, don't buy it.

karas1 3/30/2011 8:46:13 AM

Would humans go to a planet with a toxic atmosphere or other dangerous characteristics to get something we needed or wanted?  Yes we would.  Would we walk around there naked without protection from the dangerous thing?  No, we wouldn't.  Any species which could build a space ship and travel to other planets would know enough to protect themselves from dangerous conditions.  Or they wouldn't be exploring space for very long.

SarcasticCaveman 3/30/2011 8:59:51 AM

 Here's a recent plot hole favorite of mine:  Star Trek: Generations - Guinan establishes that the only people who ever left the Nexus were taken ripped out of the Nexus against their will, such as herself and Dr. Soren.  The Nexus acts as your own personal heaven, letting you do whatever you want.  Picard wanted to meet Kirk, so he met Kirk in the Nexus.  Picard wanted to leave the Nexus, so he left the Nexus IN the Nexus.  Picard wanted to save the day, so he saved the day in the Nexus.  He never left the Nexus, and apparently he got so bored living out his own fantasies in the Nexus, that he wanted to see what Kirk and Bones and Spock would look like surrounded by lens flares.

6dra6on6 3/30/2011 10:42:52 AM

I too always wondered how the T1000 was able to time travel without being surrounded by living tissue.

violator14 3/30/2011 11:26:23 AM

LOL- damn this article is bringing out the full geekness out of everybody!

Signs-I could bring up the argument that the aliens came here simply cuz  there arent that many planets nearby for them to search resources on! There is like  a 1 in a million chance that any planet supports life, so Earth might have been the only and closest planet for those aliens to reach. They were prolly like, "HOLY EUREKA!!! WE FINALLY FOUND A PLANET WITHOUT ELECTRIC STORMS AND AN ATMOSPHERE!!"

Karas- as for the black hole vs, supernova, i think the black hole thing was temporary? or maybe that the super nova is so powerful to consume for the blackhole they pretty much cancel each other out in a way? Im sure Spock would have known how dangerous a black hole is. =)

Death Star blowing up-I can imagine this happening. I mean there are SOO many crazy things inside those starships that are so combustible to be able to make giant explosions causing chain reactions of giant explosions. Definitley seemed plausible to me. The empire just did a shitty job of defending it i guess.

ID4- no argument here. The aliens should have spent that 80 bucks for Virus/Spyware protection.

Dark Knight- dude! dont u guys know who the Joker is??!!! He's like Bugs Bunny!! He's everywhere at everytime!!!!

haha. Great article!

 

Wiseguy 3/30/2011 11:29:03 AM

I never thought much of the time traveling T-1000. I just felt that it could imitate anything that it comes in contact with as explained in the movie except for some machinery or chemicals. So taking the movie at its word maybe it imitates humans perfectly to the point that it gives out the same electro chemical signature as any living organism.

The other possible scenario is that Skynet has come up with a better time travel machine.

SarcasticCaveman 3/30/2011 11:57:13 AM

 There's a fantastic "How It Should Have Ended" for The Terminator series on youtube.  The resistance decides that in order to avoid any and all attempts to kill John Connor, they have to eliminate the inventor of time travel, taking them, of course, to 1955 to kill one Dr. Emmett Brown...LOL.  Hilarious.

And I don't know how many times people have tried to explain this, the supernova in J.J.'s Star Trek WAS...NOT...THE...ROMULAN...SUN.  A star in our galaxy went nova and NEVER stopped expanding, threatening to consume a large portion of the galaxy.  The Romulan sun wasn't going nova, they were trying to make the black hole NEAR the Romulan system to absorb the blast wave before it destroyed the entire system.  They were too late.  The blast wave of the other star destroyed the entire Romulan system, including the Romulan sun.

I'm not saying the science is sound, and no black hole is temporary, but they weren't trying to stop a sun from going nova by making it a black hole.  The science was bad, but not THAT bad.

I picked up on all of this the first time watching the movie, by the way.  

zathras6767 3/30/2011 1:18:41 PM

Great list!.I just love everyone's responses.Speaking of TDK,though on a lesser note,when I first saw the movie in a packed IMAX theatre,when the Joker's infamous "Why so serious?"scene occurs,he slits the guy's cheek and then the guy  drops dead I was the only person laughing my butt off in the top back row.Most ridiculous thing I'd seen in a movie that year.

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