Fan Beefs Part I: The 6 Biggest Plot Holes in Genre Cinema Comments - Mania.com



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alienstatue 4/1/2011 11:22:25 AM

Good points drwynn74 - I guess it's all about how you look at time, etc.

Regarding the time circuit display screen/input. The "where you came from" definitely showed 1955 when old Biff came back to 2015, but Doc and Marty just didn't look at it, remember they were carrying a knocked out Jennifer and wanted to get out of there asap. Also, even if Doc did notice it, remember the part where the time circuit shows 1885? And doc hit the screen and fixed it - well doc could have just brushed it off as another glitch. Also I think Biff came back to 2015 because he wanted to jump into his fortune of money as soon as possible. He definitely could have went to any place in time, though.

My thing is how did Biff know how to use Mr. Fusion!? There's no time travel manual that doc carries around in the car, and he would have been out of fuel as soon as he went back to 1955, right?

alienstatue 4/1/2011 11:29:16 AM

I only watched Babylon 5 a few times, but I gotta check out those time travel episodes.

Gauleyboy 4/1/2011 1:26:31 PM

Hanso, Jakester.

While I can't remember the scene you're referring to in enough detail to remember what mountains they showed in the background, they may have fudged it, I'll have to re-watch TF-ROTF to check it out. The BlueRidge Mts. (part of the Appalachians) are visible from NoVA (Northern Virginia). And from the surrounding area. Not from DC, but surely from Dulles you can see the Blue Ridge.

Granted they aren't very big, but they're there.

I grew up in the area, definitely can see the Mt.s from NoVA

kenderoreander 4/2/2011 1:31:34 PM

you know what drives me nuts more than plot holes? idiots trying to be smart by making things they didnt understand into plot holes. except the signs water thing. as much as i liked the rest of the movie, that made no sense. unless the aliens werent invading so much as fleeing and crashing like refugees. but there was absolutly no evidence of that. and yeah the last airbender was worse than the happening although somehow i actually enjoyed it more. if only the wierd cringe worthy director enforced "method" acting could have gone away. and the story treatment/synopsis in place of dialogue thing that woulda been nice too.

elrushbo 4/2/2011 10:09:55 PM

The Indepence Day criticism kinda bugs me-the aliens were pricks. Using OUR own satellites because they thought we would be too dumb to figure it out. In the movie, someone figures it out and uses it to our advantage, gaining knowledge from a crashed ship.

I found Battle: Los Angeles a LOT more improbable-aliens capable of sending massive fleets of ships and weapons across the stars and our bullets and missles destroy them with ease? No defenses, nothing?

 

SarcasticCaveman 4/2/2011 11:15:04 PM

 HUH...elsushbo, I still don't really care for the movie anymore, but you raise a very good defense of Independence Day.  Technological compatibility was established when the aliens used our satellites against us...why wouldn't we be able to give them a computer virus?

elrushbo 4/5/2011 10:13:56 AM

Thanks caveman, I had always thought the aliens were using our satellites for their own amusement, like we're way too stupid to figure it out so they had some fun. They obviously enjoy blowing stuff up, they could just bombard planets from orbit but they like flying big ships in over the surface and scaring the hell out of the populace. So they were playing games that must have worked for centuries, and presumably some of their previous conquests were against races more advanced than ours so they never thought a lowly human would figure the game out. What I liked about Independence Day was they thoroughly established the aliens' dominance. Our nuclear blasts don't even scratch them. So hope is lost. Until someone thinks of something.

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