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karas1 4/1/2011 5:34:24 AM

Nobody is going to list Janeway as the best Starfleet commander, but even she had her moments.  I think they tried to go somewhere different with each captain and they were all good.  Trying to decide which was best would be like picking out your favorite child, you love them all.

It's an unpopular view, but I kind of liked Timothy Dalton as Bond.  Pierce Brosnan did OK too.

Ledger did a fantastic job as The Joker but I still like Nicholson's portrayal better.

I've never been completely happy with any of the Batmans.  Michael Keaton made a great Bruce Wayne but didn't have the intensity for Batman.  Bale made a superior Batman but his Bruce Wayne sucked (though that might have been the directing rather than the actor).

 

 

okonomiyaki4000 4/1/2011 5:58:00 AM

Good article. Really excellent point at the end too. 

Wiseguy 4/1/2011 6:26:10 AM

Ledger, Bale, Craig all suck

goldeneyez 4/1/2011 6:59:16 AM

Kevin Conroy as Batman & Mark Hamil as the Joker PERIOD.  It's over... you know how they used to find people who were cut off from communications after a war had ended.  That's what any conversation is like arguing who is better in these particular roles.  (I'm just joking around so please don't anyone have a Nerd Embolism or Geek Hemorrage).

heath0920 4/1/2011 7:33:28 AM

I also would have to give credit to Hamill's Joker - noone ever mastered the art of psychotic over the top cackling glee versus the menace of that soft voice when you knew people were about to die. Listen to "Return of the Joker" and without a doubt a cartoon will make you shudder and tremble. 

I don't know if you can compare Nicholson's take to Ledger's. Nicholson was doing an over the top sicko. Ledger was playing a person whose sense of humour was so competely anormal that noone caught the joke. But both played their parts phenomanally. (Now, I certainly felt more tension from Ledger)

Likewise, Kevn Conroy owns the role of Batman and I'd still like them to dub Bale's voice with Conroy's rasp. (I mean come on, he even makes a different voice to play the part of the older Bruce in Batman Beyond, how many guys can claim that?) He has two distinct voices between Batman  and Bruce, the only thing Bale can do is whisper.

wish 4/1/2011 7:47:17 AM

Heath and Jack can't compete since they both stole the show in thier respective roles, they were so perfect for the type of movie they were in that when it works it just works!!  Having said that I liked the Dark Knight better than Batman 1989 so edge to the Ledge.........r.

and he had a total badass to deal with in Bale's Batman, the only actor in my opinion worthy of the cape and cowl.  The others were just pretty boys wearing cheap rubber, except Keaton, he wasn't that pretty but made up for it in personality (and scored the hottest girl to be in any Batman film yet!)

My favorite Bond Is Craig, no question, he doesn't treat a day of killing and double-crossing like he's a fukking game show host, though the charm is there when needed.  As for Kirk and Picard.......the comparison should really be between thier ships...........the real hero doing all the work.....I only say that because my favorite Captain is Jonathan Archer!

These lists and susequent debates are what make this site killer!!  Keep it up!!!

Wyldstaar 4/1/2011 7:47:44 AM

When I think of classic Trek vs TNG, I don't think of Kirk vs Picard so much as Kirk vs LaForge.  In the classic series, Captain Kirk saved the Enterprise from the latest threat through guile, skill, lying, cheating, stealing, beating, stunning, killing- whatever was necessary to win through.  In TNG when the Enterprise was in trouble, it wasn't Picard who generally saved their bacon.  It was LaForge, and he could solve any problem with an inverse tachyon beam channeled through the main deflector array while venting drive plasma from the warp coils, which will allow the ship to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..

mosgza 4/1/2011 7:50:52 AM

All the Bonds together in a movie would be awesome... To make it work you could easily make a case for logic's sake that "007" and "James Bond" are names given to agents that climb their rank and are given that particular moniker in order to protect their real identity. That way all five men who played in these movies could theoretically exist in the same universe and you wouldn't have to rationalize how one Bond has been fighting bad guys for 50 years and has somehow survived all of his incredible (and sometimes ridiculous) adventures.

As a non-fan of Star Trek I would have to say that Kirk is the ONLY reason I will occasionally watch the shows or movies. He's like the Ric Flair of space captains!  Picard and the whole New Generation series seemed absolutely joyless in setting and tone and the show took itself way too seriously. …And the NG movies sucked balls.

Kirk = Man's Game.

wish 4/1/2011 7:51:08 AM

Wyldstaar has been paying attention in class!!!!  one of the funniest comments I've ever read!!

 

HudsonTaco 4/1/2011 8:09:24 AM

Nicholson, Connery, Keaton, Picard, could care less about MST3000, idiots always talking during a movie ;)

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