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InnerSanctum 2/17/2013 2:13:08 PM

 If you want to know why I have major doubts of telling stories of a younger Han, or trust the direction they might be taking the films...I give you J. J. Abrams.  I truyly disliked his Star Trek.  Actually, I can say, I don't enjoy his movies (seems to be a much better producer.)  They lack soul.  

axia777 2/17/2013 3:00:30 PM

@InnerSanctum - While agree with Star Trek, I did not like it story wise, I think it was an exceptionally well made movie. The good thing about Star Wars is that Abrams is not writing it. Michael Arndt is writing it. He seems to be a very good writers so I am not too worried about the script. I really like Toy Story 3. His writing made that movie great.

Arndt will most likely have a lot less control over the story as Abrams did with Star Trek. They have to stick to a story line that Lucas approves of. Lucas may not de directly involved, but he still has the final say it what is what in Star Wars. That is fine with me as well since Lucas was all ways a better idea man and director than writer.

As for Abrams other movies I recommend Super8. If you have not seen it I think you should. It is a really great film.

 

InnerSanctum 2/17/2013 3:29:15 PM

 axia777:  I agree with the writers they have lined up.  And, the fact that Lucas will still be pulling the main strings. This is all knee jerk reactions for me at this point.  

I watched Super 8 the other night.  I know Abrams was trying to emulate Spielberg, but he is no Spielberg.  I found the film to be very disapointing.  From the alien (the whole story surrounding it was "meh") to the desperate attempt to try to create an old fashioned 80's blockbuster movie.  It was then that I realized that there was no "soul" in any of Abrams films.  Yes, Abrams can make a pretty movie, but all his characters (Star Trek, MI3 and S8) are very one dimensional.  Now, no one will accuse SW of being overly deep in character development, so it is all "wait and see" at this point.  I wish the best for the franchise.  After 1-3 I really do think the bar has been set pretty low.  If we can do away with too much CGI (you know, practical effects are a good thing)...maybe we can get another Empire.  That is my new hope.  

I'm curious, is there only one director in Hollywood that can make sci-fi franchise movies? 

 

axia777 2/17/2013 5:10:01 PM

Well, I guess we can agree to disagree on Super8. I thought is was an awesome movie with a lot of heart.

I would also like to point out that Alec Guinness was 63 when he was Obi-Wan Kenobi in the original Star Wars too. He was doing battle with Darth Vader. Ford is 70. Not too old to be the Grand Admiral of the New Republic Armada. :) Hamill is 61, just the right age to be the Grand Master Jedi of the New Jedi Order along with his sister Jedi Knight Leia Organa Solo. It all fits like a glove IMHO..

 

InnerSanctum 2/17/2013 5:44:23 PM

Yeah, I didn't get the heart of Super 8.  It felt forced and hollow to me.  It tried very hard to be in the vein of ET and The Goonies.  Any emotional investment I had in the children was lost when Abrams began blowing up the town.  The second half was all explsions and an attempt to give the alien an idenity.  I've enjoyed some of Abrams shows that he has produced on TV, but I have not taken to his directing efforts.  I can see where Super 8 would appeal to people though.  

I'd absolutely agree with you on SW if this was, say 20 years ago.  That is, if the Solos are to actually take action in the new SW and are not just there for nastolgia.  Their Solo's kids trained by Luke seems like the logical step (although I'm still baffled by the fact that Annie was too old at 10.)  

I am watching Tron: Legacy...maybe they can do a little CGI work on Leia.  The guys being grizzled is fine.

I've always thought that the SW comics from the 90's with a cloned Emperor were a nice step in the right direction.    

thezillaman 2/17/2013 6:13:36 PM

 @axia, i know what everyones deal is , here on mania most of us are crazy, and picky nothing makes us happy, we feel the need to constant whining, and crying bout the dumbest of things. it's how we do here on "MANIA", nothing will ever change and if it did that's the day i will stop coming to this crazy website, .yes some of us go to extreeme and rant mumble even use every name in the book there is as far as insults , belive me I know'.. im one of them. but in the end we are all one big fucked up Mania fam...:)

ElBaz13 2/17/2013 7:45:43 PM

I still remember an interview with Barbara Walters years ago (before Indy 4 was even thought about) and she asked him if he would ever play Solo again. He simply said "no, that character is boring to him" but said he would play Indy again with no hesitation.

So what changed his mind? Money? Fading star who wants to go back in the spotlight? Callista Flockhart gets to see her husband play Solo again before he retires from acting? (she was 13 when Star Wars came out) Or was it Ford did not want to work with Lucas knowing he's a terrible director but did not want to admit it because Lucas is the one that made him what he is today?

No matter, despite being old and not the young Solo we want to see, it will still be a delight to see him as Solo again. As long as he has a minor role (rebel general) or maybe a grizzled old mentor role like Rooster Coogburn from True Grit.

DarkXid 2/17/2013 9:40:20 PM

I remember that interview. Ford is going to get the death he wanted.  Solo is going to bite it.  Ford said he was thankful for Han Solo in that it gave him so many other opportunities, but he was bored with the character and there was no depth to him.  Ford wanted him dead, remember there were questions on whether he would be back for Jedi.  

If they give Han a good story, maybe they can talk Ford into doing VIII.  Kill him off Han and Leia.  Give it a typical middle movie ending.  If there is a victory, it comes at a heavy price.  Yeah, like Empire.

SarcasticCaveman 2/17/2013 10:24:11 PM

 ElBaz, just curious about referring to Harrison Ford as a "fading star" in that question you posed.  In my mind, there are some stars who are incapable of fading because they have become such Hollywood icons, and I count Harrison Ford among them.  I mean, is Sean Connery a faded star because he chose to retire?  I mean, come on...Han Solo, Indiana Jones, Jack Ryan...this is Harrison Ford.  He's not a fading star, nor do I see him ever being a faded star...well, unless he fouls up as triumphantly as Mel Gibson did.  Want an example of a faded star?...how about the kid from "Promlem Child"?

jyansr 2/18/2013 12:57:38 AM

I'm not sure why people think Chewie will be returning in these movies. IF they follow continuity, at all, he died "way" back in '99 in the book Vector Prime. 

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