Idea For New Star Trek Series

[Nebka]

This takes place in the 24th Cerntury But the crew is on a deep long turm exploration of the Beta Quad but the crew is from all the major powers Federation, Klingon, Romulan's, Cardassians, and i am sure i am missing other but think how it would be for those diff races working together

[TrekSucksHard]

Naaah. That would be BOOOORRRIINNNGGG...

[Space Tycoon]

Here's your problem Nebka:

...Federation, Klingon, Romulan's, Cardassians...

...those diff races working together

Conflict. That's what made the original Star Trek great. The sparring between Kirk and Spock, Spock and McCoy... golden.

"..you pointy eared hobgoblin!"

"...green-blooded, inhuman..."

"blast your theories and observations, Mr. Spock!"

"Shut up Spock! We're rescuing you!"


It wouldn't be the same if all the races got along. Does that sound like real life? :smirks:

Still, keep at it.



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[Mobile Vulgus]

Heres a better one...

The Federation falls apart and EVERY race is at war with each other.

SCREW this everything is nice and everyone loves each other stuff!!

:wink:

[sickness]

This takes place in the 24th Cerntury But the crew is on a deep long turm exploration of the Beta Quad but the crew is from all the major powers Federation, Klingon, Romulan's, Cardassians, and i am sure i am missing other but think how it would be for those diff races working together

I like the idea of a deep exploration show but the only difference in approach I would take is you've got the Feds, Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians out their in separate ships chasing some 24th century equivalent of the Fountain of Youth (in spirit, not in function... it could be a resource or knowledge from an advanced race... Cytherians, anyone?). At odds but sometimes allying for the sake of their missions.

[Space Tycoon]

How about a sequel to the "Conspiracy" episode from season one of TNG?

What ever happened with the signal that was sent to "an uncharted part of the galaxy...?"




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[Mobile Vulgus]

Nah. Not another giant threat like the Enterprise series faced!

I'd say competing interests. Maybe a new wormhole in an unclaimed area that many races are trying to grab up, or some new race that contacts them all and they are all vying to become aligned.

[TrekSucksHard]

Give it up, people, Berman-era Trek is now over with! http://messageboard.cinescape.com/cinescape/forums/images/icons/rolleyes.gif

Just like the Nick Meyer era ended with ST:VI so has the Berman era (thankfully)- with JJ Abrams now in charge there will be a reboot of trek which means that tech stuff (I hope they bring back the retro-TOS phaser, it looks cool), starships (I hope they stop making Federation ships frisbees with rods on them!) and even aliens will start to look different, no more of this Berman knobby-headed alien crap (I hope the aliens will look less humanoid and have more varied forms- imagine a Cardassian as a giant worm instead of a lobster headed rubber masked human) I hope! http://messageboard.cinescape.com/cinescape/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Space Tycoon]

aliens will start to look different, no more of this Berman knobby-headed alien crap (I hope the aliens will look less humanoid and have more varied forms- imagine a Cardassian as a giant worm instead of a lobster headed rubber masked human)

That's what I've been saying for years. There's no reason why CGI can't be employed to create some believeable-looking aliens who still have personality.

Star Trek, like other franchises, should be open to re-interpretation once in awhile.




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[Asonokirk V 2.0]

That's what I've been saying for years. There's no reason why CGI can't be employed to create some believeable-looking aliens who still have personality.

Star Trek, like other franchises, should be open to re-interpretation once in awhile.




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"The Next Generation"
"Deep Space Nine"
"Voyager"
"Enterprise"

11 feature films.

I think Star Trek, of any TV series, has "re-interpreted" itself as much as could be hoped for.

[Space Tycoon]

So there isn't room for more?

There are still plenty of boxes they haven't thought outside of just yet. Still boundaries they could push--and I'm not just talking about violence or sexuality.

Finding a new way to tell the story while staying true to canon-- now there's the challenge.



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[Sgt. Awesome]

What Star Trek's problem is... look at shows that are popular these days among any demographic... Desperate Housewives, 24, Gilmore Girls, The Simpsons.

What makes these shows popular? A continued plot... ok scratch the last one.

Not only are the characters compeling but you are interested in the plot, that's what get you coming back for more every night. Star Trek doesn't have that. TOS didn't need it, it was groundbreaking enough already. TNG's characters were so compelling and the show was well made, but wouldn't do well on todays market. DS9 had the Dominion War. It was dark, it was gritty, it was a continued plot. Voyager... just sucked but still had a through-line.


For Star Trek to suceed in todays television market it needs something big. Not little stories every week, but one story per season, with tons of little stories in between. That's what, by the shows that are doing well, todays viewer wants.

Us nerds will watch it just because it's Star Trek, what they need is everybody else.

[neglet]

What Star Trek's problem is... look at shows that are popular these days among any demographic... Desperate Housewives, 24, Gilmore Girls, The Simpsons.

What makes these shows popular? A continued plot... ok scratch the last one.

Not only are the characters compeling but you are interested in the plot, that's what get you coming back for more every night. ...

For Star Trek to suceed in todays television market it needs something big. Not little stories every week, but one story per season, with tons of little stories in between. That's what, by the shows that are doing well, todays viewer wants.

Us nerds will watch it just because it's Star Trek, what they need is everybody else.

Um, so a long, ongoing plot arc is what contributes to the ongoing success and popularity of shows like CSI (x3), Law & Order (x3), NCIS, and all those other procedurals the nets love because they're easy to shop in syndication? Sorry, I don't buy it.

Besides, didn't Voyager have the ongoing plot arc of returning to the Alpha Quadrant? That didn't necessarily make the show any more interesting. Not to say that a Trek with an ongoing, season-long plot arc wouldn't be successful--it could, but only if the idea behind the show was a winner.

[Sgt. Awesome]

Ok... CSI and Law and Order are different... but I guess you are right. I must admit to not having cable tv and being a bit cut off from the world.

Voyager just sucked.


You do have to have a COMPELLING overall concept, good actors (or even just better then crappy ones) and good storytelling, if the script is good it helps, but from what I've scene (24) not a necessity.

"I need those files"
"I'm calling _________"
bring bring
"Jack needs those files"
"I'm sending those files to you via satilite uplink"
"I've got the files, thanks"
"Jack, I'm sending the files to you now!"

[KingVoyeur]

Might I suggest checking out the "Future of Trek - TV" thread and taking the poll? :D

[thedoctorrr]

I posted this idea for a Trek series on CA many moons ago which was to have a new Trek set after TNG- about 50-100 years on. Have it mirror current events. It's just after a brutal and costly war with the Romulans. Thing is the Federation struck the first blow in the war in an attempt to prevent the Romulans from becoming a more powerful force in the galaxy. The decision to go to war nigh-on tore the Federation apart.
The Federation won the war- just, but it has burnt a lot of bridges with its allies and a number of new planets who have suffered badly. As the Federation tries to rebuild it must regain the trust of a large number of planets. The Enterprise is sent out to these ravaged worlds to provide assistance, often encountering hostility.
The new Enterprise is a ship built for battle, its captain is a grizzled veteran who has been in enough scrapes to know that the Federation started a war they hadn't thought out properly and empathises with the planets that want nothing to do with the Federation. This puts him at loggerheads with the diplomats on board who must bring these planets back into the fold and win over new allies.
In the meantime, the Romulans are also rebuilding...
Or something like that.
The tone would be a mixture of classic Trek, new Battlestar Galactica and Firefly- cynically humourous, dark where it needs to be, strong character arcs and interplay, a little bit of politics and kick-ass action.

[Space Tycoon]

Sounds great, but you could just as easily set it after the first Romulan War, and have your captain a guy trying to cement a number of alliances with planets who would later form the UFP.

Just my $0.02.




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[thedoctorrr]

Sounds great, but you could just as easily set it after the first Romulan War, and have your captain a guy trying to cement a number of alliances with planets who would later form the UFP.

Just my $0.02.

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That's sounds cool too. That could just as easily work. I had in mind though that by this time the Federation had expanded there would be parallels between that and the Romulans expanding empire. As the show goes along we'd learn of some dark nasty little secrets of the Federation and how corruptive it became.
I had the idea that the captain of this new Enterprise would be like Kirk but jaded. Someone who was more interested in doing the right thing than just be a mouthpiece for the Federation. He's the anti-establishment figure butting heads with the diplomats and politicians who don't necessarily have these planets best interest at heart.
Also the crew of the Enterprise would be more like the classic Trek- these guys have been through the wars with their captain who allows them their eccentricities and quirk- this causes a little friction between them and the more rigid diplomats.

[Space Tycoon]

In that case it would have to be during the post-Dominion War period for sure.


Which would be fine by me, as long as Beavis and Butthead were nowhere in the vicinity. :D


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[Asonokirk V 2.0]

I would like to see Trek reborn as a daytime soap opera satire:

Using the original characters.

Kirk to Spock: "Do. You. Think. Uhura. Might. Be. Willing. To . . . goalltheway?"

Spock to Kirk: "Well, Jim, she was last night, in my quarters."

Kirk to Spock: "Why you green blooded, half breed, insubordinate . . . "

McCoy, interrupting Kirk: "And he didn't use a condom, either . . . "

Kirk to McCoy: "And you were there, Bones?"

McCoy to Kirk: "Yes, and so were most of the male members of the bridge crew, ceptin' you, of course."

Kirk turns to the helmsman and says: "Even you, Sulu?"

Sulu to Kirk: "yessir, I was the fluffer for the guys . . . "

:)

[Asonokirk V 2.0]

So there isn't room for more?

There are still plenty of boxes they haven't thought outside of just yet. Still boundaries they could push--and I'm not just talking about violence or sexuality.

Finding a new way to tell the story while staying true to canon-- now there's the challenge.



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There's always room for more, I was just pointing out that Star Trek has a history of reinventing itself.

Personally (and seriously), I think any new Star Trek televisison series would work for me better if it was like the Original Series, in that it is episodic television without necessarily using any continuing story arc, except as necessary as the show evolves. I, personally, am really more interested in returning to exploration and discovery as the focus of any new Trek TV series. To that end, I propose the following:

Set about 100 years after The Next Generation, a specially designed Federation starship, capable of traveling to the nearest galaxy and back within the lifetime of the crew, heads to Andromeda.

The series would take place almost entirely in the Andromeda galaxy, and the discoveries can be significant, banal, humorous, mysterious, etc., etc.

The crew would be Starfleet's finest, of course, and it might be interesting to throw in a character who is a direct decendent of one of our beloved characters from one of the other shows.

I don't think any show that tries to act as any kind of "spin-off," continuation, or back story from one of the current shows will work as anything truly compelling. That's my opinion, of course, but I really like the idea of exploring another galaxy, and think that would be the best way to go with any new show.