So about them gas prices...

[kah]

I was meaning to mention this last week when it happened, but I forgot. Last week, our gas prices were at a low of $2.81. My mom filled up that morning, and by the evening, when she came home from work, the very same gas station had regular unleaded at $3.09. Seriously, WTF? What could possibly have happened that they could justify an almost 30 cent hike in one day?

[Meathead]

Various environmental factors, including ambient temperature, demand, and sheer greediness. Often times gas stations will raise gas prices if their supplies are running low and a tanker isn't due until the next day so as to avoid running out.

[kah]

The other stations followed suit within the next couple of days, and now the prices have been stable at $3.09 for about a week.

[Meathead]

Hmmm...well, there is another explanation for all of this.
When Crude prices go up, the costs of producing gas goes up as well. The basic price for refining gas doesn't change, so if crude prices go up, so does the cost of refined gas. Sure, everyone is saying reserves are at their highest point in years, but how do you think they got that high? BUYING CRUDE! So with all the extra crude that gas companies were buying, they still ahve to pay to refine it, so the prices have gone up. I have noticed a general trend, though: Changes in gas prices are about 3 weeks behind changes in crude oil prices. If crude drops, expect a price drop about 3 weeks later. If crude rises, expect to see a bump immediately and then a slower tail off...

[Asonokirk V 2.0]

Word:

Start buying gas and storing it. I think things will get worse. I didn't think of doing that when it was much cheaper, but I am thinking about it now.

[Stephen]

I work at a gas station, prices will only continue to get higher all summer. It'll be in the mid 3 dollar range for awhile, like, above 3.30 ^, and closer to the 4 dollar range.

Thats what the gas/oil companies are telling us behind the scene. and the Bush Administration has every part to do with the price spikes more than anything else, so Bush's speeches about trying to keep prices low and make better fuel efficiency standards are all crap, especially that bit about price gauging, which is extremely overrated and hardly present at all.

[Rowanberry]

So, you think your gas is expensive? :rolleyes:

Last time I filled the tank, the price was about € 1.35/litre.

One gallon is approx. 3.8 litres. So, a gallon would cost € 5.13.

According to today's exchange rate, 1 € = approx. 1.25 US$. So, in your currency, a gallon of gas would cost me approximately $ 6.40.

I live in a city with decent commuter connections, but you don't have to go far to find areas in this country where people are totally dependent on having a car to get simply anywhere.

Actually, you still get your gas quite cheap.

[kah]

So, you think your gas is expensive? :rolleyes:

Last time I filled the tank, the price was about € 1.35/litre.

One gallon is approx. 3.8 litres. So, a gallon would cost € 5.13.

According to today's exchange rate, 1 € = approx. 1.25 US$. So, in your currency, a gallon of gas would cost me approximately $ 6.40.

I live in a city with decent commuter connections, but you don't have to go far to find areas in this country where people are totally dependent on having a car to get simply anywhere.

Actually, you still get your gas quite cheap.


Yes, your gas is wayyyy more expensive, but a much higher percentage of your cost goes to taxes.

[Corporal_Hicks]

Yes, your gas is wayyyy more expensive, but a much higher percentage of your cost goes to taxes.

How much?

[Adam54]

Y'know, I wouldn't be horribly opposed to that idea. Tax the fuck out of gasoline, do away with...say...the sales tax. SUV/Truck sales would plummet, and alternative fuel research would speed up like crazy, wouldn't it? The air would clean up, we aren't owned by the big oil companies/countries anymore, dollar rebounds....


yeah, I know I'm dreaming, I know that higher taxes would *not* be applied to gas. not in this country. and I know most of what I just said wouldn't work out.

But it sure sounds nice, doesn't it?

[kah]

How much?

That depends. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_tax) See here (http://www.see-search.com/business/fuelandpetrolpriceseurope.htm) as well.

[kah]

I am absolutely SHOCKED!! The gas prices either fell or stayed the same this weekend. I don't understand. This is the first year I can remember ever where the gas prices didn't go up on the first big driving weekend of the summer. Wonder how that slipped by? Hmmm, maybe because the prices are already so inflated that the companies are still making a huge profit without raising the price at the pump?

[omicron]

Yeah, I was going to mention this. Gas has actually dropped almost 20cents a gallon here in Dallas. Of course, we already had the highest prices in Texas, so I guess we just evened up with the rest of the state. Gas is down around 2.70/gallon for regular. I actually filled up this weekend at 2.99 for premium!

Omi

[KingVoyeur]

We're still sitting at $2.59/gal here, I hope it stays there or lower during my trip to Chicago later this month. The E85 here is at $2.09/gal! What kind of car do you need to fill up on that?!?

[kah]

One of these (http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/flexfuelvehicles.php). You have to remember, though, with the E85, you will get roughly 10% less mpg than with gas, so if the price of E85 gets too close to gas, then you will end up paying more per gallon. You will be doing the environment a favor, though, so if it's just a few cents either way, then I say go ethanol.

[Son of Gilbert]

I went to Mexico this week and when I left the price of gas was 2.65. When i got back it was 2.52, thats 12 cents it went down. I wished I had looked in Mexico to see how much there gas was but, the price of gas was the last thing on my mind during a long awaited Honeymoon.

[Jakester]

Holy Shit! Someone willingly had sex with SoG!

[DaForce]

Holy Shit! Someone willingly had sex with SoG!

Well, it stands to reason that if someone would sleep with you, someone would sleep with SoG as well.


:D


Those poor women.



My heart goes out to them in their struggle.

[sickness]

Hey, even I got laid a couple months ago (man, I really need to do something about that... it's been too long) which stands to reason if Jakester has ever gotten some so, yeah, I think there's someone out there who would do the dirty deed with SoG as well.

[Son of Gilbert]

Holy Shit! Someone willingly had sex with SoG!


yeah your mother says hi

[southpaw]

the price of gas was the last thing on my mind during a long awaited Honeymoon.



You really wanted to see that donkey show didn't you?

[Natalie]

$2.49 in some places around Columbia, but there are still many with jacked up prices over $2.60....bastards.

[kah]

We're still at $2.89 for an average. I would be happy with $2.40.

[tstone]

Whoda thought? Latter day Bush is starting to turn into the Carter Admin, minus the emphasis on energy conservation.

[kah]

Last week, the bf was filling up at a station for $2.92. As he was there, they raised the prices to $3.09. Right now we are averaging $3.23/gallon for regular. What's the rest of the country looking like right now?

[omicron]

Hmm down here it's about 3.09 for premium, which would put regular at around 2.89 I think.

Omi

[Kaeos]

Right now we are averaging $3.23/gallon for regular. What's the rest of the country looking like right now?

Last week we had $2.82 for regular. This week back to $2.89


Hmm down here it's about 3.09 for premium, which would put regular at around 2.89 I think.

Do you only buy premium? I don't even look at it.

[omicron]

Well, I got a sports car that requires the high octane stuff. :)


http://home.earthlink.net/~lrosati/z4.jpg


Omi

[kah]

In Wisconsin, the gas companies are required to add 10% ethanol to all our gas. This is an all year thing, not just summer, when other states start using their "summer blend". I just heard on the news that oil hit $76 a barrel today and that ethanol hit $200 a barrel.

[sickness]

The worst part is it's just a giveaway to corn farmers. The pollution it removes is offset by different pollution. Such laws are how votes are bought and sold in the Midwest.

[kah]

The worst part is it's just a giveaway to corn farmers. The pollution it removes is offset by different pollution. Such laws are how votes are bought and sold in the Midwest.

Yeah, cuz you know all about Midwest politics. :rolleyes:

Our congressmen have been asking the EPA to waive reformulated gas requirements for a while to ease the burden, but they keep saying no. This has been an ongoing thing since 2000, when gas prices first started getting out of control.

[sickness]

Do you honestly believe cornfarmers are begging for these regulations to be gotten rid of?

[kah]

Do you honestly believe cornfarmers are begging for these regulations to be gotten rid of?

Most of the fields are already empty. The US government pays farmers to not grow certain produce when the supply goes up, keeping demand and prices high. Most farmers are just getting by. You are assuming WI farms are like CA farms, where they are basically just another corporation.

Dairy Farming in Wisconsin (http://barnstorm.cvol.net/hum_barham.htm)

Shifting Grain Market in Wisconsin (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/business/14803429.htm)

[Senormac]

Under $3.oo a gallon here in Oregon...

[omicron]

I swear I don't understand the whole gas thing. Big news last week was BP shutting down their Alaskan pipeline and that it pumps 8% of domestic oil. Raging conflict in the middle east going to worsen. Iran threatening to raise prices and lower production. Same old shit.

I filled up at 3.05 because I thought it was going to skyrocket. Next day, the price had dropped! I've even seen premium under 3 bucks here in Dallas.

I swear, this whole gas thing doesn't make sense. :ohwell:

Omi

[TrixieB]

Here in NC they spiked a bit last week, but it seems as of there's been a small dip. Regular is around $2.85/gallon. Last week it was $2.95. I am still not driving anywhere that I don't absolutely have to go, though.

[Nostromo]

A factoid of interest. Actually, as a Canadian, I didn't know we are the U.S.'s
biggest supplier of oil.
N

Most Americans don't know Canada is their biggest oil supplier
Last Updated Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:01:07 EDT
CBC News
A new poll suggests the vast majority of Americans are unaware that Canada is the largest foreign supplier of crude oil to the U.S.

Canada is the biggest foreign supplier of oil and natural gas to the U.S. The Canadian American Business Council (CABC) — which represents some of the biggest private sector companies in both countries — said its survey of 1,000 Americans found that only four per cent of respondents thought Canada was the country that provided them with more oil than anyone else.

The survey also found that 41 per cent of Americans asked would support replacing oil from unstable areas of the world with oil from Canada "even if doing so resulted in higher prices for U.S. consumers."

"The findings suggest a foundation of American public support for meaningful initiatives to expand Canadian energy supplies to the U.S.," said CABC chairman Randoph Dove in a statement.

"As more and more Americans recognize Canada as a secure source of energy resources, this support should only increase," he said.

The release of this poll came just as energy-rich Alberta launched a massive lobbying effort in Washington to get across its message that Canada — and especially Alberta — has a stable and secure supply of oil that it's eager to sell the U.S.

Exhibits about Alberta and its vast oil sands deposits occupy a prominent place in this year's Smithsonian Folklife Festival in Washington.

That's drawn criticism from an environmental lobby group, the National Resources Defence Council, which says the industry and government-sponsored exhibits at the festival make no mention of the "devastating environmental consequences" the council says oil sands mining creates.

The survey was conducted by Vitale & Associates, who interviewed 1,000 people from June 13 to 15. It has a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.

[kah]

Lately we've been averaging about $3.24 a gallon. It just dipped down to $3.16 in the past couple of days. Remember this past winter? After Katrina spiked prices here around $3.20, prices had dropped as low as $2.19. I actually thought for about 5 minutes that we would see $2 a gallon again. Wtf was I thinking?

[rappites]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14717550/

Oil industry analyst is saying that gas prices are heading to $2 a gallon and may stay there for years.


So, we pay higher gas prices for just in case something happens. :romy: So, they can cover their arse at our expense!?

[Intelligent_Design]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14717550/

Oil industry analyst is saying that gas prices are heading to $2 a gallon and may stay there for years.


So, we pay higher gas prices for just in case something happens. :romy: So, they can cover their arse at our expense!?
I think the rebound is gonna be bad I think next summer Oil is gonna hit $100 a barrel.

[KingVoyeur]

I'm enjoying the dip for now. We just hit $2.29 a gallon today here.

[kah]

Hey, we're down to $2.69. What a fucking joke.

[Nostromo]

$3.40 a gallon Canadian = $3.03 U.S. N

[Trazalca]

I've seen it as low as $2.36 a gal. here in ATL. Still high, but the relief helps.

[omicron]

I just got back from Ohio, and I saw gas as low as 2.teens. Haven't checked the prices here in Dallas yet.

Omi

[neglet]

I keep passing the stations and saying "Holy shit!" Labor Day weekend prices here dropped from $2.50s to as low as $2.45; yesterday I filled up for $2.26. Go figure.

[TrixieB]

The lowest prices in our area are around $2.45. The closest stations to me are running $2.55. Hopefully by the the time I need to fill up again it'll be down some more.

[kah]

For some reason, we are ALWAYS about 20 cents above the national average. The bf saw gas as low as $2.62 yesterday.

[UNCLEagent]

Whoda thought? Latter day Bush is starting to turn into the Carter Admin, minus the emphasis on energy conservation.

One trick pony....

Old habits die hard, eh? :D

[UNCLEagent]

Under $3.oo a gallon here in Oregon...

He's right!

It's $2.99 here in PDX. :angry

[UNCLEagent]

A factoid of interest. Actually, as a Canadian, I didn't know we are the U.S.'s
biggest supplier of oil.
N

Most Americans don't know Canada is their biggest oil supplier
Last Updated Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:01:07 EDT
CBC News
A new poll suggests the vast majority of Americans are unaware that Canada is the largest foreign supplier of crude oil to the U.S.

Canada is the biggest foreign supplier of oil and natural gas to the U.S.


Simple proposal:

We go to war with Canada.

We lose.

We all become Canadians, we get a new Prime Minister, free health-care, Tim Horton's every morning and all that oil.

Of course we get a flag with a leaf on it, but hey,...

[TrixieB]

I'd become a Canadian for Tim Horton's everyday.... and Kradey, of course.

[UNCLEagent]

I'd become a Canadian for Tim Horton's everyday.... and Kradey, of course.

True.

She could then do a safety inspection on me!

[Immortal1982]

2.49 a gallon regular in Northeast PA.

Hahaha. now you realise, the republicans will use this to try to regain the house....

[sickness]

Since ODJ doesn't post much, I'll post Houston for him.

$2.59 near IAH yesterday when I was getting ready to leave. I've heard as low as $2.35 in the area from someone I work with who lives there.

[KingVoyeur]

Woohoo! Down to $2.19 a gallon here!

[rappites]

And what part of the country are you?

[KingVoyeur]

Mid-Missouri

[rappites]

Damn, We are getting ripped off in the Chicago area. Still $2.70 something a gallon.

[omicron]

I saw prices around that range back in Ohio. It was 2.20s, so I'd imagine by now it's in the teens.

Filled up at 2.54 for premium, which is about 2.30s for regular. First time in a long time I can remember my gas bill being closer to 40 than 50 bucks. :)

Omi

[Al-Dog]

I just filled my tank and I was thrilled that it only cost me $37.00.

When I first got my truck (2000) it cost me 20 bucks. The most I payed was $50.00 plus that I paid earlier this year.

[sickness]

Filled up 10.5 gallons for less than $30 dollars today. $2.79 per gallon. Shortly afterward, I saw it at another station for $2.69. SON OF A...!

[Adam54]

It's at $2.17 most of the places in town. Should be approaching $2 by next weekend.

[KingVoyeur]

$1.99/gal. baby! Yes!

[Son of Gilbert]

2.09 which is pretty good.
Yesterday a local gas station had gas at 1.90, lines were backed up even on I-75 to get gas.

[sickness]

Saw $2.16 the other day here in Houston. A bit off the beaten path near the airport but still not out in the general Houston area.

DJ, what's it like in your neck of these here woods?

[rappites]

It is still $2.53 here in the chicago area. Damn rip off.

[Bark]

$1.99/gal. baby! Yes!

Where? Smurf Village?

[rappites]

made with Smurf Pee...

[omicron]

Up the road abit here in Dallas, I believe it's in the 2.teens. Been out of town most of the week, haven't need to fill up my tank :)

Omi

[KingVoyeur]

Where? Smurf Village?

Yes it's a fuel made from berries and smurf droppings. Smells like rainbows!

[sickness]

By the way, ODJ, I just wanted to go on record that Houstonians must never go the California on vacation. If you guys did, 8 out of 10 of you would be pulled over on suspicion of drunk driving even when you're stone-cold sober.

[Meathead]

Gas was at $0.746 today...and some hedge fund LOST $4.6 BILLION (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601014&sid=ap72089Cqki4&refer=funds) because oil prices have dipped...whoops!

[fastcar]

That's what I loved about being in South Carolina on vacation this month.

Gas was $2.29 in some places.

back home I need to buy more groceries. It's $2.37 but I have $0.25 in discounts from Giant Eagle.

[madi]

Here, in Wisconsin, it's still hanging around 2.45. Still, when you consider it was over 3.00 not that long ago, I'm a happy camper.

[Bokchoi Cowboy]

By the way, ODJ, I just wanted to go on record that Houstonians must never go the California on vacation. If you guys did, 8 out of 10 of you would be pulled over on suspicion of drunk driving even when you're stone-cold sober.


It isn't the horrible way they drive, its the smell....







*

[Meathead]

Yes, we are now down to pre-March levels...*sigh*

[TrixieB]

Yesterday I paid $2.35 for regular... today the same gas station had regular for $2.23! If I hadn't been riding on fumes and prayers on the way home last night I would have waited.

[DarkJedi]

lol I know it's taken a bit to readjust to Houston traffic and humidity. There was 2 days where it was nice and cool and then back into sauna for all of us.

I've seen the same prices, sick. I saw $2.10 in Pasadena the other day...and my boss up in north Texas said he saw gas prices at 1.97 at a Walmart job in East Texas last week.

[omicron]

yeah I've seen 2.17 for regular, but they still are charging 2.44 for premium. Lowest I've seen is 2.37 for premium.

[kah]

Just east of Madi we are getting around $2.35, and in Milwaukee it's around $2.29.

[Jakester]

We're $2.35-$2.51 (depending on which part of town you're in).

People on the news are all "Gas is so cheap!" I'm like, "it's still over $2/gal. It's too fucking expensive! There's no REASON for it to be so expensive other than people will pay it and then be glad when $2.35 is "cheap." Fucking sheep.

[sickness]

$2.16 was the cheapest I saw in Houston. The really expensive one leading into the airport was $2.39 on Friday afternoon when I left. That's down from at least $2.49 when I arrived early Monday afternoon.

Still haven't been near a gas station here in the SF Bay Area in 3 or 4 weeks due to all my travel.

[Natalie]

Most places still have it hovering in the low teens, $2.13-2.20.

The lowest was $2.05 I saw this morning.

Yay, South Carolina!!

[Trazalca]

Last night, I happened to fill up the tank at the local gas station
at $1.93/gal.

This morning, I drive by the station on the way to work, the price
is now $2.09/gal!

Oy vay! :ohwell:

[kah]

I filled up at $2.19 a couple weeks ago when one gas station was that low (none of the others ever followed suit). Then they went up 12 cents one day this past week. Stupid, greedy OPEC.

[omicron]

hmm last time I checked it was still around 2/gal. here in Dallas.

Omi

[Bark]

Hope for a mild winter. That would screw OPEC.

[sickness]

$2.099 near IAH in Houston. $2.459 was the cheapest I saw back in Cali before I got back here 2 weeks ago.