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Queen Mae
01-24-2006, 04:56 PM
Disney buying Pixar for 7.4 billion (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11003466/)

KingVoyeur
01-24-2006, 05:13 PM
I thought it was just a bid. Disney sucks ass. They pissed Pixar off, then they realized that Pixar is a lot better than them so they're just gonna buy them off so that they'll still be top dog. If you can't beat em, buy em.

Queen Mae
01-24-2006, 06:33 PM
I didn't comment on the article because I'm not sure what I think of this. I find it difficult to be upset with Pixar.... for $7.4 billion I'd sell out too.

Then again, it seems like Pixar is trying to retain as much control as possible - and we won't know for a few more years whether or not the "marriage" (re-marriage?) is a good one.

DaForce
01-24-2006, 11:01 PM
We were talking about this in class tonight (advanced 2D animation class), and since our teacher works for ILM and knows a few of the old Diznee animators, from what he's heard a lot of the old time traditional animators are going to be canned or cut back to part time. What that means is less 2D animation for Diznee, and a bigger shift towards 3D. AND Steve Jobs is now inline to be just slightly worth more than Bill Gates.

PLUS, it looks like a lot of the Diznee film line might now make its way over to iTunes as downloadable video since Jobs will be a board member of Diznee.

Probably one of the ugliest deals I've seen in recent corporate history.

:(

DarkJedi
01-25-2006, 03:28 AM
This news sucks.

Thanks for more bad news, Daforce.


Butthead. :D

DaForce
01-25-2006, 09:00 AM
See what happens when you live within spitting distance of Pixar? :D

DarkJedi
01-25-2006, 09:02 AM
Obviously, you didn't spit far enough to curtail this.


It's all your fault.

omicron
01-25-2006, 09:04 AM
I thought it was just a bid. Disney sucks ass. They pissed Pixar off, then they realized that Pixar is a lot better than them so they're just gonna buy them off so that they'll still be top dog. If you can't beat em, buy em.

Isn't that the Micro$oft way? :o

Omicron

Queen Mae
01-25-2006, 09:25 AM
We were talking about this in class tonight (advanced 2D animation class), and since our teacher works for ILM and knows a few of the old Diznee animators, from what he's heard a lot of the old time traditional animators are going to be canned or cut back to part time. What that means is less 2D animation for Diznee, and a bigger shift towards 3D.

:(

Ugh, this is terrible news. Currently Disney is trying to figure out what kind of animation to use for "Rapunzel: Unbraided" and I was really hoping they would use 2D animation - I've seen early artwork that was 2D, but read that they're considering doing 3D. I've been waiting 20 years for them to make a Rapunzel movie, even though they'll screw up the story like they do almost every other fairytale. It seems wrong that it probably won't be in 2D - all of their girlie fairytales should be in 2D.

DeathScythe
01-25-2006, 10:05 AM
from what he's heard a lot of the old time traditional animators are going to be canned or cut back to part time. What that means is less 2D animation for Diznee, and a bigger shift towards 3D.

This is good and bad in my eyes. Good, because, well, I'm an unemployed 3D Animator, so more jobs are open for me. Bad because, I love watching 2D Animation as well. kinda falls somewhere in the middle for me.

The thing we do gotta watch though, is how much control Pixar retains over their work.

-Lord Scythe-
(Does this mean that Pixar's gonna make the next Toy Story?)

DaForce
01-25-2006, 10:09 AM
Well, considering that Jobs is now the biggest fish in the pond at Diznee, I'm pretty sure that Pixar will still retain a lot of control if Jobs doesn't give up control completely.

Adam54
01-26-2006, 01:53 PM
Jobs has a lot of clout now...Jesus...

running the show at Apple, Pixar, and now the largest shareholder at Disney means he has clout over the ABC and ESPN families as well, among other things.

Hell of a deal for him.

DaForce
01-26-2006, 02:29 PM
Here's a nice little thing that was posted up over at joblo.com:

I'm sure by now you all know about Disney's purchase of Pixar (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=10054) for some outrageous sum of money. But like a confused child whose parents start screaming about divorce, only to eventually get back together, you want to know, "so what does this all mean?" You've read the isn't this great!!! articles but I wanted to find out exactly why it's so great for people other than new trillionaire Steve Jobs; moviegoers like me and you. So consider this below an unofficial FAQ about what the Disney/Pixar purchase means for the future of both companies, their movies (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=10097#) and the little people.If Disney bought Pixar, will there still be a Pixar name?

Yes. Movies, like CARS or the rumored follow-up RATATOUILLE, will continue to be branded Disney/Pixar productions, complete with little Luxo, Jr. the lamp mascot. Disney animated movies produced outside of Pixar, like RAPUNZEL: UNBRAIDED (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0398286/), won't have the benefit of the Pixar name.
Despite making Steve Jobs one of the most powerful men in entertainment and one of the richest men in the US, what benefit does this have to Pixar?

Jobs says the choice to merge with Disney rather than create a distribution deal with another studio was "the most exciting path for Pixar's future." Well easy for him to say now that he's the highest individual stockholder in Disney, but what of the rest of the company? For one, they have the benefit of all the resources a giant conglomerate like Disney afford. For another, the other members of Pixar's braintrust, John Lasseter and Edwin Catmull, would become Disney's new Chief Creative Officer and President respectively. Finally both companies spoke of how well the Disney/Pixar relationship worked in the past and wanting to return to that original relationship.
And??...

Lasseter, one of the most respected creative minds in animation, good friend to Roy Disney and the director (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=10097#) of the original TOY STORY, will also become one of the principals at the Imagineering department of Disney theme parks that are responsible for "the creation of all Disney Resorts, theme parks, and attractions; real-estate developments and communities; regional entertainment venues; and cyberspace/new media projects" [1 (http://www.wdisneyw.co.uk/wdi.html)]
What of TOY STORY 3

Not surprisingly, one of the first orders of business was to put the kibosh on TOY STORY 3. Over. Kaput. Animators were told on Tuesday that production would halt immediately on the sequel that would've had Woody being recalled to Taiwan. Jobs said, "We see sequels as first class citizens," and added that they look to make any sequel better than the original. So a TOY STORY 3 may happen one day but it will only be under Lasseter's close supervision. You can also expect the in-development MONSTERS, INC. and FINDING NEMO sequels to die a quick death as well.
So if no TOY STORY 3, what of Disney's "Circle 7," the unit of CG animators hired to replace the defunct 2D animators that were let go?

Official word was rather vague and political. "We'll wait until Ed and John have a chance to come down and see what's going on," said Disney chief Richard Cook. They're apparently "interested" in the talent assembled and wanted to try to accommodate them at the new company. But Lasseter is also a huge fan of 2D animation and convinced Disney to acquire and release films (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=10097#) like SPIRITED AWAY (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=10097#) so he may look to rehire or reassign some animators. This is probably going to be the most intriguing development.
How will the new merger utilize another part of Jobs' empire in Apple?

You can expect even more partnerships with Disney and their subsidiaries and iTunes and iPod. Considering we don't know what Apple has in mind for the future for either project, anything at this point is purely speculative but remember they have an entire theatrical division (including Miramax), ABC and ESPN channels, radio stations and much more that can all currently capitalize on the Apple products. Jobs wouldn't comment directly but said of the possibilities, "It's gonna be a pretty exciting next five years."
So what the heck is the next Pixar film (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=10097#) gonna be?!

CARS obviously, which Disney head honcho Robert Iger calls "one of the best films I've ever seen." That film will have an exclusive preview in Detroit during the Super Bowl. But what about after that and some of the rumored projects? Sadly Jobs says, "nothing has been decided yet," in regards to when they plan to announce their future slate. Dang!
OK, hope this was helpful. Thanks to Jim Hill Media (http://www.nytimes.com>the%20new%20york%20times</a>,%20<a%20href=) and Animation Nation (http://www.animationnation.com/) for help compiling this report. As it has been joked, it does seem that Pixar has in fact bought Disney since they're now controlling a good portion of it. But in the end that will really benefit everyone as we'll hopefully see less of THE LION KING (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=10097#) 1 1/2 and more of FINDING NEMO.



You can view the article here:

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=10097