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07-07-2007, 02:21 PM
Well, we have a new Superman movie coming out this September.
Sure Warners doesn't have the brains to release this into theaters. No one wants to see cartoons anymore. Everything has to be live action (with half assed CGI), from Superman to Transformers to Alvin and the ----in' Chipmunks. Really, what's wrong with cartoons people?
I peeves me that good films like this go straight to DVD. This is a movie created by people who live and breathe these characters. Meanwhile the big release movie like Superman Returns is produced by Jon Peters who asks script writer Kevin Smith, "Who the ---- is Kal El?" in the middle of being read the script. He also didn't want Superman to fly or wear his old costume because it was "too faggy". This guy who doesn't even know who Kal El is in charge of making a Superman film and then makes millions off of it. Crap like that makes me sick. Check out An Evening with Kevin Smith DVD for more on that. (There's also a clip on YouTube.)
Anyway, at least we get this fantastic animated movie on DVD. Hey, look, Superman actually fights someone in this one, not just rehashes the old Donner film. A Superman movie that's actually based on books? Wow.
To be honest I was never a fan of the book. I wasn't following Superman back then. I was always more into Batman. Still, I'm always up for a Bruce Timm produced film. Plus after this comes an adaptation of New Frontier. I can't wait for that one.
Here's a nice preview and series of interviews
09-21-2007, 02:27 AM
Now that SupermanDoomsday (referred to as SD from here on out) has come out (and I received mine free courtesy of Dan and the Challenge of the Artists tournament, thank you!) I'll post my review here. SPOILER ALERT, don't read on if you haven't seen it yet....
...You were warned.
I loved it. The DCAU's JL and JLU pushed superhero cartoons to even more of a sophisticated audience just for tv alone, and SD surpassed even those borders, evident by a PG13 rating, although the more adult content is handles quite nicely. THIS is the epic Superman film I've been waiting to see. Lex's obsession, Lois's love and heartache, and the spectacular fights all made this one heck of a film and pushed past the bar set by the DCUA cartoons. If JLA: The New Frontier is anything like this in terms of quality, I'm even more excited than I was.
- The voice casting was great. I especially like James Marsters as Lex, he adds a sophistication (possibly British?) that Clancy Brown doesn't quite have. Adam Baldwin does a fine job as Supes, though not as much to my liking as George Newburn. Anne Heche does a wonderful job as Lois.
- The animation was great. Falling glass, explosions, textures, it all worked well together. The quality and effort put in is clearly evident.
- Like I said above, the story made this THE Superman film to see. Epic battles, a woman's loss, a mother's heartache, and a villain's obsession, all made this whole story work well and intertwine. Considerably more condensed than the graphic novel, the creators did a nice job n boiling it down to the essence of the death of Superman. For instance, the whole Hank Henshaw/Cyborg Superman and the teenaged Superman clone (Kon-El) ideas were combined into the Clone Superman angle, which worked out well for the animated format.
- Although understandably condensed, I would have liked to have seen more along the lines of the graphic novel. More heroes at Superman's funeral would've added to the impact of the loss of Superman. Cadmus being the cloners instead of Lexcorp could've been fit in and worked; even Cadmus being a dummy company of Lexcorp could work. The four different replacement Supermen (Eradicator, Cyborg Superman/Hank Henshaw, Superboy, and Steel, could all be introduced as well, as cameos at least. I think introducing them as cameos wouldn't have taken away from the story, not that the Clone Superman idea used in the movie didn't work. I think it would've been fine if they even just had Eradicator and Henshaw as the two replacemnt Supermen; Eradicator would've taken the place of the Superman robot, and having the Clone be more like the Cyborg visually would've made him all the more frightening, like if Superman was half Metallo.
- Superman doesn't even really die, he just goes into a deep, DEEP coma for a little over a month. I think the creators could've used the death to bring back Jonathan Kent for some heart-to-heart afterlife interaction like the comic.
- Not enough of Martha Kent. She lost her son for Pete's sake, watched him be beaten to death on tv. A little more attention couldn't have hurt.
Still, like I said, I loved the film. If only they had made THIS live action, I doubt Donner fans wouldn't have minded this rather than the nostalgic SR (Which, don't get me wrong, also worked but for its own reasons).
09-24-2007, 09:31 AM
First let me say I am a huge Superman fan. And once I heard that this DVD was coming out, I was so excited. We get to see the single greatest event in comic history come to life. After watching it, overall I liked it. The one thing I was disappointed with was the battle between Doomsday and Superman. Honestly, I thought the fight between Superman and Captain Marvel on Justice League Unlimited was better. I mean, in the graphic novel, by the end of the fight, Superman was a mess. He had bruises all over his body, his suit practically torn off of him. He had a black eye, swelled up face. But in the movie, a few scratches, his cape torn off, that’s it. I mean, it was cool to see Superman bleed for the first time, and yes there was blood coming down both sides of his mouth, but come on, I was let down by the whole sequence. I guess I wanted to see more of the graphic novel come to life more than anything. I thought seeing all the heroes at his funeral in the novel was awesome. Seeing the JL as paul bearers was a nice touch. But the movie dropped the ball on that part as well. I know this movie was done w/no continuity to other movies or shows, but to have Superman die and not have other heroes show up, no way. And the DVD is called Superman Doomsday yet Doomsday is in the movie for about 15 minutes out of 75 minutes. I like the fact that Lex cloned Superman, but yet looked nothing like Bizarro. At first I have no problem w/the clone looking exactly like Superman, but as the movie goes forward, we should have seen the transformation into Bizarro. I think the movie just should’ve stayed true to the graphic novel, make the fight sequence longer. I mean come on, Superman, The Man of Steel; get’s killed in only 15 minutes? The battle in the graphic novel was epic. This version was not, by far epic. It was decent, but not epic. But again, overall, not a bad movie. I think Bruce Timm and his crew could’ve done a lot better. Seeing Cyborg Superman, Eradicator, Superboy & Steel as the replacement Supermen as in the graphic novel would’ve been a nice touch as well.
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