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Lavoruis
06-07-2006, 07:46 PM
Would you for the second movie?
I would choose Paul Verhoven: I would let him do what he wants:D
I would also hire and asian choregrapher to take the predators
to a level were are suppose to be.
I think this would get a rated R+ rating:)

sickness
06-07-2006, 10:04 PM
Verhoven would be good but he needs to be reined in. When you rein him in, you get Total Recall. When you let him loose, you get Hollow Man.

neglet
06-08-2006, 05:23 AM
Verhoven would be good but he needs to be reined in. When you rein him in, you get Total Recall. When you let him loose, you get Hollow Man.

Wow. I never saw Hollow Man, but it must have been a huge steaming pile of shit, because Total Recall is one of the worst "science fiction" (and I use the term verrrry loosely) films I've ever seen--an utter piece of crap that had me giggling at its stupidity for its last two-thirds, and I don't usually have problems with suspension of disbelief in action films.

Trazalca
06-08-2006, 06:28 AM
Wow. I never saw Hollow Man, but it must have been a huge steaming pile of shit, because Total Recall is one of the worst "science fiction" (and I use the term verrrry loosely) films I've ever seen--an utter piece of crap that had me giggling at its stupidity for its last two-thirds, and I don't usually have problems with suspension of disbelief in action films.

Hmm. Doesn't ALL Sci Fi require a suspension of disbelief?

KingVoyeur
06-08-2006, 07:21 AM
Wow. I never saw Hollow Man, but it must have been a huge steaming pile of shit, because Total Recall is one of the worst "science fiction" (and I use the term verrrry loosely) films I've ever seen--an utter piece of crap that had me giggling at its stupidity for its last two-thirds, and I don't usually have problems with suspension of disbelief in action films.

Well, the first half of Hollow Man showed promise, but the second half quickly became a "scientists trapped in lab with monster" flick, which is pretty much always crap. Plus Elisabeth Shue turning into McGyver at the end didn't help!

neglet
06-08-2006, 07:52 AM
Hmm. Doesn't ALL Sci Fi require a suspension of disbelief?

Well, sure it does. Take a movie such as "Face/Off"--okay, the technology to do face transplants and alter voices to assume someone else's identity is wild and requires some suspension of disbelief (as do the beatings the two leads take from each other), but at least it's plausible. Heck, they did an actual face transplant for real just this past year. Plausibility is essential to suspending one's disbelief, whether watching sci fi or Jack Bauer in "24." (Dammit, Jack, why didn't you just copy that recording in the first place!!)

But by the time "Total Recall" concludes with Ahnuld creating a breathable atmosphere on Mars within two minutes, plausibility had long gone out the window. I mean, people's heads don't swell up and explode in the vacuum of space, let alone the low-oxygen atmosphere of Mars; even if they did, suddenly getting into atmosphere wouldn't miraculously shrink your head back; only an idiot would build a Martian habitat without bulletproof glass ... I could go on, but honestly, I've tried to put that horrible waste of celluloid out of my mind since I saw it in theaters. I just remember such egregious implausibility that by the end of the flick Mr. Neglet and I were getting our kicks by keeping a running count of all the unscientific stupidity. (It was well over half a dozen, even before we got to the two-minute planetary atmosphere conclusion.)

See, that's what happens when you get me started on the utter crap that is the film "Total Recall," a complete waste of a decent story idea.:angry

alvspr
06-13-2006, 09:36 PM
Sometimes though the very fact that things are unbelievable etc is exactly what the director is going for.

However, generally those kinds of movies aren't my type of thing.

I much prefer a more realistic (plausible) feel to a move.

As James Cameron has said:

"The more far out the concept is, the more you have to base it in reality."

Trazalca
06-14-2006, 04:42 AM
But by the time "Total Recall" concludes with Ahnuld creating a breathable atmosphere on Mars within two minutes, plausibility had long gone out the window. I mean, people's heads don't swell up and explode in the vacuum of space, let alone the low-oxygen atmosphere of Mars; even if they did, suddenly getting into atmosphere wouldn't miraculously shrink your head back; only an idiot would build a Martian habitat without bulletproof glass ... I could go on, but honestly, I've tried to put that horrible waste of celluloid out of my mind since I saw it in theaters.....See, that's what happens when you get me started on the utter crap that is the film "Total Recall," a complete waste of a decent story idea.:angry

But....but that scene was so COOL!!! I LOVE THAT SCENE!!
Plausibility be damned! Head explosions rawk!!! :D

Cncrman
06-14-2006, 08:21 AM
But....but that scene was so COOL!!! I LOVE THAT SCENE!!
Plausibility be damned! Head explosions rawk!!! :D


Just for you Traz: http://sxw.users1.50megs.com/zimages/head_explosion.gif

aficianado
06-18-2006, 09:50 PM
Would you for the second movie?
I would choose Paul Verhoven: I would let him do what he wants:D
I would also hire and asian choregrapher to take the predators
to a level were are suppose to be.
I think this would get a rated R+ rating:)

NO, on Paul Verhoeven.

Ridley Scott or James Cameron. Period. Preferably Ridley Scott for I would be very keenly interested on how he would approach a continuation not necessarily of Ripley (I, personally, consider over and done in the real sequel) and after all not only is Ridley Scott an atmospheric director, I believe, he had very strong ideas of how to tell the story, he is a director who knows the technical aspects of filmmaking, and just look at alien and the other follow-ups....Ridley establishes a realism that is sorely lacking in AvP. So, I am not looking forward with any hope of the next story coming back to the fold of what propelled and gained the attention of the first film.

aficianado
06-18-2006, 09:58 PM
Would you for the second movie?
I would choose Paul Verhoven: I would let him do what he wants:D
I would also hire and asian choregrapher to take the predators
to a level were are suppose to be.
I think this would get a rated R+ rating:)

I can't see why hiring an asian choreographer would necessarilly mean it would take it to the level YOU say it's supposed to be. That has the Guyver signature all over it and that is a suggestion, to my mind, that will not resolve the issue of departure from key elements that made 'alien' and it's surprise sequel genuine and real-like.

This is not a 'chop-socky' film. That is handled more by Japanese style of science fiction and something that passes for acting.

alvspr
06-18-2006, 10:19 PM
they just have to treat it seriously.

Not aim it at kids under the age of 15.

Thats why I think Batman Begins was so damn good. They took themselves seriously and decided that they would make a film for adults, not children.

Its what Scott and Cameron did with the first two films.

aficianado
06-19-2006, 05:47 AM
There you go. Exactly. Just imagine how it would be, I mean, it couldn't get it out of the mire that it is already firmly stuck and secured in, now turn it into "Crouching Alien, Hidden Predator?".

I love and respect Bruce Lee, but is that what the poster to whom I'm replying to envisioning. I wonder what film he/she had in mind when suggesting this proposal????????

Nostromo
06-23-2006, 03:46 PM
Would like to see Ridley Scott take on the assignment.
Since the A L I E N story line has gone through a number of mutations,
one more couldn't hurt. Perhaps the "Space Jockey" was a breeder of
prey for the "Predator race" which could explain the ship full of eggs.
A good story and Ridely can go to work.
N

jayce78
07-11-2006, 04:27 PM
I heard a while back that Marvel wanted to do their version of Aliens vs: Predator / like what their doing to Hulk , because they wern't happy with the films . . .


I wander what's the word on that?

DaForce
07-11-2006, 06:30 PM
I heard a while back that Marvel wanted to do their version of Aliens vs: Predator / like what their doing to Hulk , because they wern't happy with the films . . .


I wander what's the word on that?


Um...Marvel never held the rights. Do you mean Dark Horse? Cuz they also don't have the rights either.

jayce78
07-11-2006, 06:42 PM
Ahhhhhhhhghhhhghggghhh????

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5731/dfgr9ew.png (http://imageshack.us)

Bloody Hell??

Space Tycoon
07-13-2006, 12:30 PM
No more Alien vs. Predator. The effects were neat in AvP but that's about it.

Make an Alien film with a full on Alien cast-- Space Jockey aliens, Xenomorph aliens, miscellaneous aliens. Let the imagination go wild. Perhaps a prequel leading up to the first Alien. Perhaps not.

As long as it's actually frightening for a change, go for it.




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jayce78
07-13-2006, 01:28 PM
Or how about do an AvP movie like the flippin brilliant comic book it's taken from . . .

Get a first rate cast / great writers that know how to adapt / and a passionate , A - film Director . . .


I Didn't totally dislike AvP , actually quite the contrary. It was a fun film , just could've been a little better. But you can say that about any film mate.

TrekSucksHard
07-14-2006, 05:21 AM
No more Alien vs. Predator. The effects were neat in AvP but that's about it.


I agree- its' like Frankenstien versus the Wolf man- two different movies (considering that Predator was a ripoff of Aliens when it first started anyways) should not be combined- it becomes nothing but eye candy with no substance.

I actually thought of my own idea for an Alien sequel- the government sends in a team of special forces guys (with gear specifically designed to kill Aliens) and takes Ripley (no Alien movie is complete with Sigourney) along to find their homeworld and get rid of them once and for all...

jayce78
07-14-2006, 02:23 PM
Isn't that something along the line of one of the angles that Ridley Scott talked about a long time ago . . .

When they were breifly discusing A - 5 a few yrs. ago? Something about the homeworld?

Nostromo
07-14-2006, 03:47 PM
Always thought a paradox would be a good way to tie up the A L I E N franchise once and for all.
Say for instance when the Aurigablows up as it enters the atmosphere
it creates an event horizon. The [B]Betty[B] flies through it and lands on Earth in a time-line just prior to the Nostromo heading out on its ill fated voyage. Ripley the alien hybrid meets Ripley the innocent - convinces her of the future and the two of them kick A L I E N and company butt.
At this point in the franchise's history - anything seems possible.

N:D

jayce78
07-15-2006, 10:54 AM
Sounds kinda Trek / But ha! still cool mate . . .


Nice plot. . . .

Nostromo
07-15-2006, 12:08 PM
Let the casting begin! N

jayce78
07-15-2006, 06:17 PM
Don't we wish it was that simple!

Space Tycoon
07-16-2006, 08:41 PM
I actually thought of my own idea for an Alien sequel- the government sends in a team of special forces guys (with gear specifically designed to kill Aliens) and takes Ripley (no Alien movie is complete with Sigourney) along to find their homeworld and get rid of them once and for all...

...only to discover that what seemed at the time to be a simple objective with a morally clear purpose is really anything but, as casualties mount and ulterior motives are revealed.

Such a storyline would resonate well with fans of Cameron's installment, and would tie in well with current events.

alvspr
07-16-2006, 08:57 PM
Or you could all have a look at my aliens vs predator story that I've actually written in the writers forum. Its an 80 page story.

Nostromo
07-17-2006, 04:47 PM
...only to discover that what seemed at the time to be a simple objective with a morally clear purpose is really anything but, as casualties mount and ulterior motives are revealed.

Such a storyline would resonate well with fans of Cameron's installment, and would tie in well with current events.

Except that we spend $13 at the movies to escapefrom reality. N

Kaeos
07-31-2006, 05:44 PM
It's a go - filming to begin in Vancouver 9/13

Alien Vs Predator - Survival of the fittest

http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=2426


http://www.fangoria.com/graphics/articles/2426_article.jpg



ALIEN VS. PREDATOR: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST will begin shooting in Vancouver, British Columbia on September 23 and wrap December 14, Fango has learned. AVP’s Tom Woodruff Jr. and Alec Gillis of Amalgamated Dynamics, veterans of the first AVP (pictured) and all the previous ALIEN sequels, will encore on the creature FX. The Shane Salerno script places the battling extraterrestrials on U.S. soil (the Midwest); FX pros Colin and Greg Strauss make their feature directorial debuts on the December 21, 2007 Fox release. —Tony Timpone

TrekSucksHard
07-31-2006, 06:17 PM
So now they are fighting in a farmhouse in the Midwest? http://messageboard.cinescape.com/cinescape/forums/images/icons/rolleyes.gif

I think I need to change my username to AVPsuckshard.

Kaeos
07-31-2006, 07:02 PM
:ohwell:

You seriously need a new avatar dude. :o

TrekSucksHard
08-01-2006, 06:27 AM
What's wrong with my avatar?

Kaeos
08-01-2006, 10:46 AM
Just an opinion bro. There's only so much milk in the little guy's mouth one can stand before it becomes nauseating:smirk:

Free country my man. Squirt away!:wink:

jcsaul9415
08-13-2006, 02:00 PM
I would take almost any director over paul anderson. Except the genius that is uwe boll. These two twin brothers are gonna direct the sequal. It's their first time directing a movie. still gotta be better than that steamiong pile of shit mr. anderson gave us. and a pg-13 one at that.