News: Jones says 'Brave and The Bold' is no bat-joke

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[The Xenos]

Telling stories about him in a lighter style is a joke itself. C'mon. I like the old Dick Sprang style, which this is somewhat reminiscent of, but it is simply not fitting for a modern Batman cartoon.

This is backwards. This undoes everything O'Neil and Adams did in the 70s. Batman Begins is in line with a modern Batman. The previous toons were. Even The Batman looked better than this. These character designs, while neat themselves, are awful for a modern Batman cartoon.

I'm sorry. I'm still completely against these designs. Where have all the decent and serious character designs gone? Japan? This looks like just part of this deformed new trend in animation, like that new Transformers. Geez. Just because it worked so well on Samurai Jack, that doesn't mean everything should be done in an odd unrealistic style.

[jmb418]

Xenos, I remember hearing the exact same criticisms leveled at Batman:TAS when it first debuted, with it's odd, unrealistic style. Even DC has realized that Bats had become too intense.
I'm willing to give a different take a chance.

[Powermaster Jazz]

The new Transformers show kicks ass. Does anybody who bashes it even watch it?

[Newseditor]

I have to agree with Xenos. This goes beyond the design.

"First, there will be an element of comedy, but that doesn?t mean that we?re skimping on the action."

That just turns me off right there. Adults and children want to see a more mature superhero show to some extend and while a little comedy is good, what he said doesn't fill me with confidence.

While he says that everyone is a Batman fan and want to do him right for this show, I don't see it. If my 5-year-old son thought the designs looked silly, you know that says something. Creators of heroic superhero shows have to realize that it's not only little kids who watch this.

I'll be giving this show a chance but I'm already turned off by the designs and the feel for the show.

And Powermaster Jazz, I've seen the new Transformers cartoon and those designs are bad too.

[Powermaster Jazz]

I didn't like the designs at first either, but I like the show. The designs became a non-issue for me after that.

[The Xenos]

I've seen the intro and I've seen preview clips. Kinda like the movie. That was more than enough. Though it seems the cartoon is miles above the horrible film, I still totally disagree with the design choices and refuse to watch it.

As for saying that the same was said about Batman TAS. I call bull. That is completely different. It went for a serious and dark tone. This is the complete opposite of TAS. This is a 'kids show', not a show for everyone that kids can watch. I am opposed to the mentality rampant in Hollywood that kids need light fare with bright colors and goofy designs.

Batman TAS had mature and dark designs. It was a show that was good for adults as it was for children. It maintained the modern Batman and didn't drag it back to more colorful times. Here is something almost 20 years old be more modern and intelligent than something out today. Just because they come out with someone new and AOL Time Warner stamps BATMAN on it, that doesn't mean we have to support it. It also doesn't mean we should accept it and allow kids to see it. Do the kids in your life a favor. Tell them not to watch this and buy them DVDs of Batman TAS.

It's too bad too. A toon about the new Blue Beetle introducing current characters would have been neat.

[jmb418]

Xenos, I'm just repeating what was said at the time,in the fan press and on the BBSes. I was there. A lot of us defended the show, but the "serious, mature" fans insisted that the style was too "cartoony".