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tstone
06-22-2006, 08:08 AM
http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/002984.html


I hate your politics.

No, I don't know what they are. And no, I probably don't know who you are, either. Really, those two points are immaterial (no offense). As it turns out about, about 46% of you are liberal, 46% of you are conservative, and the rest of you just want your guns, drugs and brothels (here in the US, we call them folks "libertarians").

Each of you carries baggage from your political affiliation, and all of that baggage has a punky smell to it, like one of your larger species of rodent crawled in and expired in your folded underwear. Listening to any of you yammer on about the geopolitical situation is enough to make one want to melt down one's dental fillings with a beeswax candle and then jam an ice pick into the freshly-exposed nerve, just to have something else to think about. It's not so much that politics brings out the worst in people than it is that the worst in people goes looking for something to do, and that usually ends up being politics. It's either that or setting fires in trashcans.

In the spirit of fairness, and of completeness, let me go down the list and tell you what I hate about each major branch of political thinking.

Liberals: The stupidest and weakest members of the political triumvirate, they allowed conservatives to turn their name into a slur against them, exposing them as the political equivalent of the kid who lets the school bully pummel him with his own fists (Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself). Liberals champion the poor and the weak but do it in such condescendingly bureaucratic ways that the po' illedumacated Cleti would rather eat their own shotguns than associate with the likes of them. Famously humorless and dour, probably because for a really good liberal, everything is political, and you just can't joke about things like that.

Defensive and peevish even when they're right. Under the impression that people in politics should play fair, which is probably why they get screwed as often as they do (nb: 2000 Presidential election). Feel guilty about the freedoms their political positions allow them, which is frankly idiotic. Liberals are politically able to have all sorts of freaky mammal sex but typically don't; good liberal foreplay is a permission slip and three layers of impermeable barriers. The only vaguely liberal person we know of who seemed to enjoy sex in the last 30 years is Clinton, and look what he got out of it.

Fractious and have no sense of loyalty; will publicly tear out the intestines of those closest to them at the most politically inopportune times. The attention spans of poultry; easily distracted from large, useful goals by pointless minutiae. Not only can't see the forest for the trees, can't see the trees for the pine needles. Deserve every bad thing that happens to them because they just can't get their act together. Too bad those they presume to stand for get royally screwed as well.

Conservatives: Self-hating moral relativists, unless you can convince me that an intellectual class that publicly praises family values but privately engages in sodomy, coke and trophy wives is more aptly described in some other way. Not every conservative is an old wealthy white man on his third wife, but nearly every conservative aspires to be so, which is a real waste of money, youth, race and women. Genuinely fear and hate those who are not "with" them -- the sort of people who would rather shit on a freshly-baked cherry pie than share it with someone not of their own tribe.

Conservatives believe in a government by the oligarchy, for the oligarchy, which is why the conservative idea of an excellent leader is Ronald Reagan, i.e., genial, brain-damaged and amenable to manipulation by his more mentally composed underlings. Under the impression they own the copyright on Jesus and get testy when other political factions point out that technically Christ is in the public domain. Conservatives don't actually bother to spend time with people who are not conservative, and thus become confused and irritable when people disagree with them; fundamentally can't see how that's even possible, which shows an almost charming intellectual naiveté. Less interested in explaining their point of view than nuking you and everything you stand for into blackened cinders before your evil worldview catches on like a virus. Conservatives have no volume control on their hate and yet were shocked as Hell when Rush Limbaugh went deaf.

Conservatives clueless enough to think that having Condi Rice and Andrew Sullivan on the team somehow counts as diversity. Pen their "thinkers" like veal in think tanks rather than let them interact with people who might oppose their views. Loathe women who are not willing to have their opinions as safely shellacked as their hair. Let their sons get caught with a dime bag and see how many are really for "zero-tolerance." Let a swarthy day laborer impregnate their daughters and find out how many of them are really pro-life.

Libertarians: Never got over the fact they weren't the illegitimate children of Robert Heinlein and Ayn Rand; currently punishing the rest of us for it. Unusually smug for a political philosophy that's never gotten anyone elected for anything above the local water board. All for legalized drugs and prostitution but probably wouldn't want their kids blowing strangers for crack; all for slashing taxes for nearly every social service but don't seem to understand why most people aren't at all keen to trade in even the minimal safety net the US provides for 55-gallon barrels of beans and rice, a crossbow and a first-aid kit in the basement. Blissfully clueless that Libertarianism is just great as long as it doesn't actually involve real live humans.

Libertarians blog with a frequency that makes one wonder if they're actually employed somewhere or if they have loved ones that miss them. Libertarian blogs even more snide than conservative blogs, if that's possible. Socially slow -- will assume other people actually want to talk about legalizing hemp and the benefits of a polyamorous ethos when all these other folks really want is to drink beer and play Grand Theft Auto 3. Libertarianism the official political system of science fiction authors, which explains why science fiction is in such a rut these days. Libertarians often polyamorous (and hope you are too) but also somewhat out of shape, which takes a lot of the fun out of it.

Easily offended; Libertarians most likely to respond to this column. The author will attempt to engage subtle wit but will actually come across as a geeky whiner (Conservatives, more schooled in the art of poisonous replies, may actually achieve wit; liberals will reply that they don't find any of this humorous at all). Libertarians secretly worried that ultimately someone will figure out the whole of their political philosophy boils down to "Get Off My Property." News flash: This is not really a big secret to the rest of us.

I'm guessing you thought I was way off on your political philosophy but right on the button about the other two. Just think about that for a while.

kah
06-22-2006, 09:04 AM
I love you, too. :hugs:

tstone
06-22-2006, 09:21 AM
:)

Oh, come on. I didn't write it. I provided a link to the chap who did. I just think he nails the three major philosophies pretty good.

I'm a liberal, yet I'm honest enough to see, yeah, that's pretty much it.

"The only vaguely liberal person we know of who seemed to enjoy sex in the last 30 years is Clinton, and look what he got out of it."

I mean, look at that. That alone is worth the price of admission. Liberals are some of the most sexually open and permissive in the world. But Lord forbid you actually act on it, double if you are enjoying it. Unless you are gay. Gays get the "get out of repressed jail free card", for some reason.

Frelled, we are.

Screw it, I say what's on my mind and withstand the dirty looks. Uptight liberal chicks ain't gonna wanna get wit' me anyway.

kah
06-22-2006, 09:34 AM
I'm not in the least offended. I'm really between conservative and libertarian on most issues, but when it comes to kids, you'd probably call me liberal. However, since most of my political beliefs fall under libertarianism, according to the blog, I must be some blog-obsessed hippy who frequents brothels and believes in dragons. The other two were pretty funny, probably reasonably accurate, but I don't think he put enough thought into the libertarian rant. There is a lot more to work with than what he used. Just sayin'.

But I really meant the other thing. I love you. Thanks for bringing in something to really get the blood boiling around here. :)

tstone
06-22-2006, 09:38 AM
It's what I do best, kah. Get the blood to boiling.

:jump2:

:hugs:

:D

DarkJedi
06-22-2006, 10:52 AM
As tstone already knows from the past, as well as others here, I tend to have more republican beliefs then any other side. I like ideas from all the parties and in a perfect world, all the sides could work together and get the best ideas from each side to the table and work it all out. Too bad, it's not a perfect world, eh.

That said, I really think all the current political platforms in our current system are full of shit. That's what I find really annoying but it's not like that's a new thing, the platforms being full of it and themselves.

The finger pointing, the cat and mouse game of "Haha, you're wrong!" and "No, you're wrong!" is never ending and the ego maniacs of all sides is what's so damn annoying.

That goes from the people who run the major parties and the people who fanatically follow those parties with condescending egos.

Basically, their all full of it. :D

Jakester
06-22-2006, 10:56 AM
I, frankly don't care about your politics. I just hate you all.

Yeah, yeah, still doesn't mean I don't wanna bang you.

Intelligent_Design
06-22-2006, 11:31 AM
I like ideas from all the parties and in a perfect world, all the sides could work together and get the best ideas from each side to the table and work it all out. Too bad, it's not a perfect world, eh.
Dictatorships are the only political system where everyone agrees. Would you call that perfect?:ohwell:

DarkJedi
06-22-2006, 11:32 AM
Dictatorships are the only political system where everyone agrees. Would you call that perfect?

LOL













No, butthead, I wouldn't call that perfect. :)

sickness
06-22-2006, 11:40 AM
Dictatorships are the only political system where everyone agrees. Would you call that perfect?:ohwell:
The difference between DJ's statement and yours is a dictatorship only allows for ideas from one side.

Jakester
06-22-2006, 12:23 PM
You said dick-tater.

Intelligent_Design
06-22-2006, 01:32 PM
The difference between DJ's statement and yours is a dictatorship only allows for ideas from one side.


I know.Thats what makes them soooo streamlined. No pesky talk on important things. Just action.:wink:

DarkJedi
06-22-2006, 01:35 PM
Bah, I just wish both sides could get together and sing "kum bah yah" every once in a while instead of the constant ego-driven pissing contests. :D

<----------------Content with being annoyed at them all, though.


Don't make me put serious thoughts into this discussion, you silly twit. I gave that up a long time ago. Point me to the Crown Royal, the cuban cigars, and the latest news on the new Transformers movie coming out.

Intelligent_Design
06-22-2006, 04:17 PM
Don't make me put serious thoughts into this discussion, you silly twit. I gave that up a long time ago. Point me to the Crown Royal, the cuban cigars, and the latest news on the new Transformers movie coming out.

Cuban Cigars? You do support dictatorships!!!!








:lol:

DaForce
06-22-2006, 04:39 PM
I hate you all.



























But that still doesn't mean that I wouldn't fuck you.




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Daltons Chin Dimple
06-22-2006, 11:33 PM
As somebody outside the US I find it both amusing and sad how you define "Liberal" and "Conservative".

Asonokirk V 2.0
06-23-2006, 09:43 AM
I keep asking myself this question: Why is it, again, that we actually need governments? Maybe there is a way we can all live here without governments?

tstone
06-24-2006, 07:46 AM
Ask what do government do. Now ask how this can be accomplished without them?

I'd have to say no. Governments suck, but are better than the alternative.