News: Jon Favreau not signed to 'Iron Man' sequel

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[Vortex]

Favreau better get signed for the sequel. It would be insane to trust the next Iron Man with another director after the first was such a huge success.

I think if they hire someone else it will affect my sleeping...

But I'm not worried, I'm sure they'll get him.

[TigerClaw]

I hope they signed him again, It just wouldn't be the same without him directing the next one.

[guinnessyde]

Yeah, i actually heard this interview yesterday. Favreau confirms that the cast is on lock for at least 2 more movies but not himself. And it's not a money issue either. He is really interested in doing the sequels.

It was really great to hear how much he enjoyed directing the film as well as working with Downey Jr. Looks like that all translated to one of the best comic book films I've ever seen.

[cyberbilly1]

It would be ridiculous for them to not sign him on again. Iron Man has been getting rave reviews (especially from Marvel's key demographic, comic fans) and is steadily making a profit. Iron Man looks like it's going to be the "it" movie this summer and that's in large part due to Favreau. Plus, if they don't sign him, who's going to play Happy in the sequel!!!

[VALENTINEproductions]

I would actually like to see someone with more style direct the next one and have him as a writer/producer.

[CaptQuirk]

I hear Singer is interested in it, and he'll work cheap after the Superman fiasco... ;)

[KNOKOUT PIMP]

MARVEL better get Favreau signed on soon!!!!!!!

Posted By: CaptQuirkI hear Singer is interested in it, and he'll work cheap after the Superman fiasco... ;)
God No Singer is one of the worst directors, even considering, just a single thought shows peoples stupidity!!!1

[CaptQuirk]

Hehehe...

[vandal093]

singer is scheduled to direct Supes 2.

[CaptQuirk]

You said you wanted style. I would rather have a movie that doesn't suck.

[VALENTINEproductions]

Why cant we have both. There are directors that can pull it off. Thats why i said to have Fav as producer.

[CaptQuirk]

The problem is, in order to have style, you need to be creative. Most people want to be creative by recreating the story and make it their own. This gives you garbage like X Men, Superman Returns, and Batman 3,4,5, and Begins.

When you have somebody who respects the original source, you get Iron Man, Superman 1 and maybe 2, and Batman 1.

[CyberViking2000]

If Singer directed Iron Man 2, we could look forward to another super hero clad in black leather instead of one resembling the original comic book design. The armour would be a metaphor for his relentless bravery. Bleah!!

[CaptQuirk]

CyberViking2000 said:If Singer directed Iron Man 2, we could look forward to another super hero clad in black leather instead of one resembling the original comic book design. The armour would be a metaphor for his relentless bravery. Bleah!!
That's the way I feel about the new Batman. Somebody that would have been in black leather is now in armor that is only slightly less obvious than Iron Man's.

[Ironfan72]

I think they will get things worked out and get Favreau signed soon, they don't need to start filming the sequal for awhile. Downey's personal trainer said it would take hime 5 months to get Robert in shape to start filming, so they have awhile before they need to sign anyone.

[ryancharlesclay17]

[quote]CaptQuirk said:The problem is, in order to have style, you need to be creative. Most people want to be creative by recreating the story and make it their own. This gives you garbage like X Men, Superman Returns, and Batman 3,4,5, and Begins.

When you have somebody who respects the original source, you get Iron Man, Superman 1 and maybe 2, and Batman 1



whoa man, when did Batman 5 come about? I must have missed that installment. From what I recall After Batman and Robin (which is number 4) there was Begins. I guess if you include the 1960's camp fest as the first movie then the numerology works. And in my opinion Begins is more in tune with the source material than the 1960s Batman or 1989 Batman. And both those films were clearly style over substance whereas Nolan?s film is quality work. I definitely wouldn?t call it garbage, but hey, different strokes.

I agree it would be a kick in the pants if Favreau doesn?t take on director duties again, but I?m not worried. I?m fairly certain he?ll be asked back based on the uber-success of Iron Man.

[VALENTINEproductions]

Yea i agree. Batman Begins wasnt perfect but its the closest to the books. Captquirk i think you need to hit blockbuster and watch a couple of those movies again.

I liked iron man,but im not like a lot of people who are loving it right now. I just hope that Fav and marvel dont get caught up in all the excitement and jump into a sequel right away. Rushing a big production like that can only lead to bad things.

[CaptQuirk]

I guess you are right, there were only 4 Batman films... the last couple sucked enough for 3 movies though.

[CaptQuirk]

And by the way, I was just joking about Singer and Iron Man... I'm just kind of mean like that :)

[ryancharlesclay17]

oooo yeah, Batman and Robin gives me nightmares to this day!!!!!! :tongue:

[CyberViking2000]

[quote]CaptQuirk said:That's the way I feel about the new Batman. Somebody that would have been in black leather is now in armor that is only slightly less obvious than Iron Man's.

Actually, the armoured Batman goes all of the way back to Michael Keaton's Batman. TDK appears to have the most armour though. Maybe #3 will be a Transformer Batman? :tongue:

[CaptQuirk]

That is also true, but they didn't start to really accentuate the armor until 4, when they added the nipples. In the new franchise, they go out of their way to draw attention to his armor and his armored vehicles. Look at the new Standee and what is the center of attention? Not the character, as much as the "Bat Pod". In Begins, his armor was pretty obvious, but that wasn't enough. From the new pics, it stands out even more.

[ryancharlesclay17]

[quote]CyberVikinf2000 said:Actually, the armoured Batman goes all of the way back to Michael Keaton's Batman. TDK appears to have the most armour though. Maybe #3 will be a Transformer Batman?


this is true. I remember a scene in 1989s Batman where Jokers goons are chasing pointy ears and Vicki Vale down an alley. Vale takes an escape route via Bat-line and our hero drops from the line and takes a couple rounds to the chest. Anyways, Joker's goons are poking Bat's stomach with a revolver, with our hero playing possum, and making a comment along the lines of "whats is that," "some kind of body armor."

[CaptQuirk]

And again in the second one, when Catwoman is sitting on top of the prone Batman, as she feels along his torso, before digging a claw in. But it was still subtle, not nearly as obvious.

[imported_athenieus]

del Toro would be awesome. he did wonders with blade II, damn hobbit film will take some years away.

[The Glove]

I think they should get Joel Silver to do the next Iron Man film but they would have to get up off his huge big fat ass and stop wineing about how he carn't do certain films, failing that definately Brian Singer so we can have another Superhero film all about gay metaphores, that would be fun!

[shane420nsf]

man, I'm so sick of hearing people bash Bryan Singer and rag on Superman Returns! (What exactly is it that everyone hates about it???!) Just because he's gay,doesn't mean his films are "gay metaphors"-Superman Returns wasn't-and as far as X-men goes-mutants have long been a metaphor for being gay-Chris Claremont established that in the comics long ago.
And-Bryan Singer is an excellent filmmaker-Usual Suspects? Apt pupil? X-men 1 and 2 were very close to source material-and Superman Returns and Batman Begins are not "garbage".How can you say that the 1st Batman stayed true to the source-Burton made a Batman movie the way he wanted to-he gave Joker a name and made him the killer of Bruce's parents-and then he dies at the end! "Begins" has so much source material in it-Year One, Long halloween-and the classic 70's Denny O'Neil style(Lucius Fox-Ras a Ghul,the batman/Gordon dynamic,etc) A real superhero in the real world would obviously NOT wear tights-but some form of protection against knives and bullets-i.e.-body armor-and The Tumbler-aka batmobile-also would be so equipped.Just accept the fact that movie versions of Batman will have him wearing a body armor suit and just move on.(I am ,however-seeing ALOT of The Bat Pod-in the trailers and the standees and posters-hey, you got to sell those toys! And I will probably get one myself-it's pretty cool)
I think Iron man is an excellent,well-made superhero flick-much,much better than FF, daredevil or Elektra-but it's nowhere near Batman Begins-and in July, the title of "best superhero movie ever made" will once and for all belong to The Dark Knight-just wait-if you think Iron Man is making waves, TDK is gonna light the world on fire-and w/ a better script and more action, Singer will give us an excellent Man of Steel-devoid of gay metaphors. Nolan,raimi and now favreau have raised the bar on superhero flicks-and I think we'll be seeing more good ones soon-as opposed to Tim Story and those 2 flat,awful FF films. I'm sure that Favreau will helm the next sequel-he's not signed-YET. My question is-who's gonna do Spidey 4 and 5? No more Mary Jane rescues at the end,please-why even have a female love interest in ALL of these superhero flicks? A guy can be too busy or obsessed to have a girlfriend-doesn't make him gay! Hollywood adds one to appease all the 18-35 year old male movie goers and their rampant fear of anything that's percieved gay-why do you think all the fanboys pitched a fit when Heath Ledger was announced as The Joker? Cuz he kissed another guy on screen in one of the most moving films ever made? Jeez-I'm glad I live in San Francisco!

[ryancharlesclay17]

I agree with ya, shane420nsf. Batman Begins is one of my favorite movies and The Dark Knight will probably rank "Best Superhero Flick of the Year," a spot currently held by Iron Man, in my book. I'm a fanboy as much as the next bespectacled geek but I didn't get my panties in a wad when Heath was announced as the Clown Prince. The guy was once hell of an actor! Hell, I even seen Brokeback Mountain in theaters because I wanted to have a informed opinion of the movie, unlike some people out there who say it's horrible but havent actually seen it. Nobody I know wants to sit through a story revolving around two gay cowboys, but you know what, it is a good movie. Powerful performances all around. Heath will carry over that powerful performance to the Joker and he'll without a doubt own the role.

As Far as Bryan Singer is concerned, I find him to be an amazing director! His sexuality shouldn't be an issuse, his obvious talent should be. Heck, why not piss and moan over Punisher: War Zone director too. After all she's a chick and what the heck do chicks know about comic books or action!? :tongue:

[CaptQuirk]

Actually, in the 60's when X Men hit the public, it wasn't a metaphor for being Gay, but ethnic/racial differences.

[KNOKOUT PIMP]

They need to bring Favreau back!!!! & as for the thought of Singer, I say hell No both X-Men & Superman Returns were poorly done. But X-Men 2 was alright.

[ryancharlesclay17]

[quote]CaptQuirk said: Actually, in the 60's when X Men hit the public, it wasn't a metaphor for being Gay, but ethnic/racial differences.

I suppose it's how you look at it. You can say the whole concealment of their mutant abilities, and the age they begin to discover their powers, is a metaphor for homosexuality. a mutant teenager admitting to his/her parents that they are "special" is essentially coming out. So whether Stan Lee and Jack Kirby intended or not, X-Men can be, and is, considered to be a metaphor for homosexuality; aside from the obvious elements of racism and bigotry.

[ryancharlesclay17]

I really wanted to see Superman pound on somebody in Superman Returns, not save people from falling of buildings or out-of-control planes and vehilces. I was hoping for a couple throw downs with the likes of Bizzaro, Darkseid, Doomsday, Brainaic, or Metallo. The lack thereof was my disappointment. And I wasn't too thrilled with the whole son of Superman idea. Other than that Superman Returns is a fine film, I was happy to see Big Blue on screen after all these years. Although if i could shape the events of the last few years I would have Singer stay on the X-franchise seeing how he was getting better with each sequel: X-Men was okay and X2 was a nice step up, X3 should have been awesome but alas we suffered the Rat. (to be fair, X3 wasn't as horrible as some made out. I was entertained and that is all that matters).

But yes, Favreau did an excellent job on Iron Man and I do hope he signs on for a sequel.

[Blind Justice]

I agree with the fact X-men was originally based on the ethnic/racial drama of the 60's. I'm guessing the children of today see it as gay/homosexuality drama, but once upon a time blacks or "colored" as they were referred to back then, couldn't even sit down in certain restaurants, let alone drink from the same water fountain or sit together on a bus. The children of today want so badly for the comic book stories they read to reflect on their world and theirs alone. What does it matter anyway? The stories are fiction people! Made up! Pretend! Don't ruin a good thing by labeling it as a way to hint at something else. Just enjoy the books and movies the way the artists intended!

And as Stan Lee would say, "'Nuff said!"

[imported_oregondude]

captquirk you are obviously a Burton fan, his Batman movies SUCKED and were far fro faithful to the source material. Batman dropping bombs and blowing up an entire building full of people? Batman with guns on the batmobile and batplane, batman falling for a skirt after one night and telling her his identity?

Burton also had him majorly armored up since movie one. Remember the scene in the alley, the thugs shoot him, he falls down and they poke at him commenting on "this is some kind of armor" then of course Catwoman in begins feeling around that HORRIBLE suit "this isn't you, here you are" then pokes him.

Burton made some shit movies and Nolan made a realistic version.

[CaptQuirk]

I have to admit, yes, I do enjoy some of Burton's artistic stylizations, but I wouldn't say I like him. Funny how that works, isn't it? Both Burton and Nolan had their own views on how Gotham and it's protector should be portrayed. Of the two, I prefer Burton... in the same way I prefer Nolan over Schumaker. I think we can all agree with that.

But out of all of them, they all pale to Sandy Colara's portrayal the best, and I consider it to be the closest to the comics.

[ryancharlesclay17]

oooo indeed! Sandy's "Dead End" is fantastic! Now that's the way to do it, tights and all!

I wouldn't go as far to say Burton's Bat-films are shit. They are pretty good in their own way, far better than Schumacher's Batman and Robin, but not quite on par with Begins.

Funny, I enjoy some of Joel Schumacher's other films but his version of the dark knight is complete crap! :wink:

[ryancharlesclay17]

[quote]Blind Justice said: I agree with the fact X-men was originally based on the ethnic/racial drama of the 60's. I'm guessing the children of today see it as gay/homosexuality drama, but once upon a time blacks or "colored" as they were referred to back then, couldn't even sit down in certain restaurants, let alone drink from the same water fountain or sit together on a bus. The children of today want so badly for the comic book stories they read to reflect on their world and theirs alone. What does it matter anyway? The stories are fiction people! Made up! Pretend! Don't ruin a good thing by labeling it as a way to hint at something else. Just enjoy the books and movies the way the artists intended!

And as Stan Lee would say, "'Nuff said!"


Oh, I do agree with you and CaptQuirk, don't get me wrong. At the time I'm sure the comic was supposed to reflect social problems of that decade. But now it's a new decade, a new generation, and new social movements to identify with. A kid today who says there's a homosexuality metaphor to the X-Men would be just as correct as a child from the 60s and 70s spouting off about racism. In essence the book is about being different and the social rebuff because of it. Why can't we just leave it at that, interpreting the series a little differently isn't ruining a good thing only broadening the horizon and reaching new readers.

And you're right, it doesn't matter, but it's sure fun discussing it. :wink:

[VALENTINEproductions]

Batman begins- great movie
Batman (burton)- great movie
Both are diffrent takes on Batman but neither one sucks more than the other. Both directors have diffrent visions. The way i see it is, we have two diffrent sets of batman films to watch and enjoy. If anything we all win.

Superman returns wasnt as great as many of us hoped only because we expected a superman who was more updated. Returns wasnt a bad movie, It just got somethings wrong that should have been easy to get right. Superman having a son. I can't see that. Batman has a son. Not supes. Maybe a daugther who later becomes supergirl, that makes more sense.
The costume. I kinda understand what they went for but it just didnt work. I got use to the small s but the colors, the collar, the hair, just didnt work. I would rather they just have changed the suit completely to update it. Get rid of the booty shorts.
I just wish singer went for a fresher take than just continuing what they did before.
Either a fresh take or had smallville continue its journey on the big screen. The one problem i have with that is i dont think welling could carry a movie on his own. Especially a big sup movie.

The fact that singer is gay doesnt make him a bad or good director. He doesnt make it obvious like some directors with nipples and butt shots. He actually tried to make good movies and for the most part succeeded.
I think he got the tone of xmen right. The whole being a mutant is equal to being a minority wich the books did suggest all these years. I say minority, meaning both color and sexuality.
Xmen 1 and 2 were good movies, but in my opinion werent as epic as they should have been. But i still enjoy them for what they are, as should we all.

[ryancharlesclay17]

And you're right: the first two X-Men movies are good! I do agree they weren't as epic as they could've been but I can't complain about that. I'm just happy that, for the most part, the moive turned out so well. And heck, Wolvie was the center piece, how can you not like that?

I like Singer, he's a damn fine director! I guess I'm easliy annoyed over the fact that some people are ignorant enough to say "there's no gay metaphors in the X-Men!" or that looking at the series in that light is runing the series. I've been counter with the fact that racism was key in the 60s. True but the gay rights began in '69 so lets just say they was a lot going on that decade. You've hit the nail on the head, mutants are minorities and that includes different color, sexuality, religion, whatever. I had an arguement with a co-worker last night beause I was telling him about the gay metaphor. He simply shrugged and tried to discredit me, which is fine. But he's from a generation that frowns on homosexuality and he's clearly a homophobe. I say that based on a previous conversation discussing Superman Returns. We were talking about our disliking of the movie and suddenly he said, "well, you know, the director...he's a fag." Like that one word was supposed to sum up why the movie wasn't all it could be. Ignorant. But i'm resting my case. :-) My final word on this is: BRING FAVREAU BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KNOKOUT PIMP]

Bring Favreau Back!!!!!!! Also get him to direct the Avengers. And since every body else is giving there opinions about Batman, Superman, & X-men, Ill give Mine.
Batman-good 3/5
Batman Begins-Superb 4/5
X-Men- Sucked 1/5
Super-Man Returns- Sucked 1/5
x-men 2- good 3/5
X-men 3- good 3/5
Also Singer being gay has nothing to do with the fact that he isn't a great director.