Film vs. Movie

[DaForce]

As long as I can remember, the word film and the word movie have denoted two separate meanings in the level of quality. And not just for me, but for a lot of people that I've known over the years. While this may seem elitist to some here, I'm finding that the same terminology; film vs. movie; does denote that same level in quality in the movie industry as well.

For example:

Citizen Kane, Apocalypse Now, Goodfellas; films.

Rush Hour, Big Momma's House (I & II), Superman Returns, X3; movies.


Has anyone heard of this as well?







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[Nostromo]

Perhaps. But what happens when you throw cinema into the mix?
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[Asonokirk V 2.0]

As long as I can remember, the word film and the word movie have denoted two separate meanings in the level of quality. And not just for me, but for a lot of people that I've known over the years. While this may seem elitist to some here, I'm finding that the same terminology; film vs. movie; does denote that same level in quality in the movie industry as well.

For example:

Citizen Kane, Apocalypse Now, Goodfellas; films.

Rush Hour, Big Momma's House (I & II), Superman Returns, X3; movies.


Has anyone heard of this as well?







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I don't think there is any real distinction between the two words, at least not in my mind. As a published film critic, I never separated the concept of movie and film. If something was good, it was a movie and a film to me, if it was bad, same thing. The people responsible for making movies don't distinguish between the two words in terms of giving their work some kind of label. If people do, that is their choice.

[DaForce]

Perhaps. But what happens when you throw cinema into the mix?
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I've always found the word cinema to be more European, and meaning a theater rather than something you watch.

[neglet]

Although I've always used both terms interchangably (especially when writing about the subject), certainly "film" sounds classier. After all, you don't take "movie studies" in college.

"Cinema" I think of more as the broader term for the entire art form; a "movie" or "film" is an example of "cinema," just like a "song" or "symphony" is an example of "music." Of course, cinema can also be a synonym for "theater," the actual physical place where a film is shown.

[jayce78]

There's also - Motion picture or movie picture . . .

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Boy ,That was a great picture! That film was not a very good picture!

[BeauButabi]

I use "cinema" as a place you go see the movies/films at, like the word "theater". I love the theaters with the giant lighted signs that say "Cinemas" on the front of their bulidings. As to movie/film, I use both of them, only depending on which one just happens to pop out of my mouth. Unless I'm talking about a movie ON FILM as aposed to VHS or DVD.

Here's another question, do you say "pop", "soda", "soft drink", or just label eveything as "coke". I grew up always saying "pop", but find my self using "soda" a little more as I get older.

[Asonokirk V 2.0]

I use "cinema" as a place you go see the movies/films at, like the word "theater". I love the theaters with the giant lighted signs that say "Cinemas" on the front of their bulidings. As to movie/film, I use both of them, only depending on which one just happens to pop out of my mouth. Unless I'm talking about a movie ON FILM as aposed to VHS or DVD.

Here's another question, do you say "pop", "soda", "soft drink", or just label eveything as "coke". I grew up always saying "pop", but find my self using "soda" a little more as I get older.

I always say "soda" to refer to cabonated soft drinks. As far back as I can remember, I've always said "soda." However, I've discovered club soda and prefer that these days to coke, pepsi, etc.

Back to the subject:
I think there is some form of elitism in places that substantiates the word "film" as segregating something from pop culture "movies." I think the people who have that attitude, refering to what they saw as "a film," meaning they think of it as "art," tend towards having a lack of objectivity within their thought processes.

[Sgt. Awesome]

On another board I post on, related to the Day of Defeat server I play, the admin has desided that it's going to be coke not pop, not soda, not pepsi. Coke.

It leads to saying things like, "Then I was going to coke around the corner and shoot, but a guy knifed me from behind"

Myself, I say pop. Or Cream Soda.... cuz that's what I'm drinking.

I work at Tinseltown Cinemas (the proper name...) and the films/movies? We just call them shows.

[jayce78]

An in a hurry , bearly dressed properly Roger Ebert says:

''There's also the 'Silver Screen' too'' . . .

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''And then their's my personal favorite: Who gives a hot damm!''

[Nostromo]

An in a hurry , bearly dressed properly Roger Ebert says:

''There's also the 'Silver Screen' too'' . . .

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''And then their's my personal favorite: Who gives a hot damm!''

The celluloid challenged of course. :wink: N

[Sgt. Awesome]

Or us losers.

[jayce78]

Yes , his cancer ate up his fat along with his brain . . . .


But were still happy to have him back! Seriously though , Have you noticed that he's a little less nitpicky and arguementive about film as he used to be?


Not that he's still not a very inteligent man! And have things to say. Just my obsevation.

[DaForce]

Ah...I knew there was a reason why someone ended up on my ignore list.


Only one person too.


Go figure.


:smirks:


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[jayce78]

I just can't tell you how that hurts duckey . . .


Seriously it really dosen't matter that much in terms of content. A.F.I. / Academy / Snnoty -foluty critics / & so on use: film / picture / theaterical picture . . .
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The average joe moviegoer usally just refers to movies and so on.
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And Cinema is what it's all wrapped up in!! So I don't think it has that much to do with what the film intales.