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kah
08-31-2006, 10:44 AM
So I saw my first commercial the other day....

Apparently someone finds Meredith's panties, but who?

Was it just a janitor cleaning up, or a nurse preparing that room for a patient?

KingVoyeur
08-31-2006, 11:01 AM
So I saw my first commercial the other day....

Apparently someone finds Meredith's panties, but who?

Was it just a janitor cleaning up, or a nurse preparing that room for a patient?

I think it's more, what is Meredith doing without her panties in the first place?

kah
08-31-2006, 11:57 AM
Don't you remember the season finale?

KingVoyeur
08-31-2006, 12:24 PM
Yeah but I thought she put them back on....maybe I was just too distracted by the McDreamy.

And how do they know the panties are hers? Does she have her name written on them? lol

kah
08-31-2006, 01:21 PM
No, she couldn't find them, and Callie came to get her for Izzy, so she rushed off without finding them. We know they're Mer's, as well as probably most of the others on the show, but Bailey doesn't know.

Adam54
09-21-2006, 05:52 PM
Juuuust about cried over poor Omar.
Ten minutes left.
Gonna binge on the season two DVDs ASAP to get completely caught up on this wonderful show.

kah
09-21-2006, 07:47 PM
All I have to say is DAMN. I will take more time and respond to this one tomorrow.

kah
09-28-2006, 06:42 PM
I really want to write about the first two episodes, but I can't. I geniunely enjoyed them so much that I don't want to ruin them with overanalyzation.

rappites
09-28-2006, 07:39 PM
It is such a good show. I am going to dream tonight about the possiblity of dating two georgeous men.

kah
09-28-2006, 08:00 PM
OMG, Mark coming out of the shower... ~drool~

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e164/kahlancypher/dane2.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e164/kahlancypher/dane1.jpg

rappites
09-28-2006, 08:04 PM
Oh, girl. . .excuse me while I go and take a cold shower. That was awesome though. I would have never had guessed. She moves fast.

kah
09-29-2006, 08:25 AM
Wouldn't you do the same if you were her? I know I would. Mmmm McSteamy.

rappites
10-05-2006, 06:51 PM
OMG. . . the opening scene tonight. I was in heaven. My exact dream. But, only McVet was coming up from underneath the sheets.:)

KingVoyeur
10-09-2006, 09:08 AM
Would've been better if McSteamy was in there too. I know Meredith doesn't really know him, but hey, it's a dream, good things can happen!

KingVoyeur
10-10-2006, 07:36 AM
Oh, and on a related note, I just found out that McSteamy also played Jamie Madrox aka Multiple Man in X3: The Last Stand.

Mmmmmmm....multiple McSteamies......drool......

kah
10-10-2006, 07:43 AM
I would've been happy with just McSteamy in my bed. I don't need two men in my bed. I want one completely involved with me, not distracted by the penis a foot away.

KingVoyeur
10-10-2006, 09:51 AM
Speak for yourself woman! Let me at least have this dream! :lol:

kah
10-11-2006, 06:38 AM
I'm not saying I only want one. I just want one at a time. COD doesn't do it for me, though. You can keep him.

rappites
10-11-2006, 06:46 AM
I'll take him.

kah
10-11-2006, 06:49 AM
You would.

rappites
10-11-2006, 03:57 PM
Dr. McDreamy and Isaiah Washington have a spat.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15227131/

rappites
10-12-2006, 12:44 PM
So, is Merideth (sp) pregos? I guess we will find out tonight.

kah
10-12-2006, 03:27 PM
I doubt it. They would never give that away in a preview. My guess is she gets a virus, but has to think about which man's baby she would want to have before she finds out she's not pregnant.

rappites
10-12-2006, 03:47 PM
Most likely. . .It will give her a wake up call.

kah
10-12-2006, 07:23 PM
Well, I was partly right. I can barely stand all the hotness. ~swoon~ Great eppy. I loved Mer tonight. I want some of what she had.

rappites
10-12-2006, 07:48 PM
I was ready to cry listening to the heart patients message. I am horrible with names even thought I have been watching this show from the beginning.

I like this show better than ER because it is less gore and more about the relationship. Even though I still watch ER because I have been watching it forever.

Anyway, I wonder if Derek will take Mer now that she has told McVet that she wants Derek.

kah
10-12-2006, 08:23 PM
I don't know. I was glad when she said she'd date them instead of jumping back into a relationship, but now I think I want her to be alone for awhile, so she can get back her spine.

kah
10-13-2006, 06:56 PM
I just rewatched it again tonight.

My favorite lines tonight...
Mer on the gurney.."McSteamy! MCSTEAMY!! Yoo Hoo!!"
Mark "Is that what they're calling me now?"
Mer "Yeah, but I don't think you're supposed to know that."
Mark "So how's my favorite dirty mistress?"
Mer "Didn't you hear? I'm an adultress whore now!"

Basically everything Mer said while she was drugged was priceless. I loved how Addi came in to talk to her and was so perfectly sarcastic. Loved it.

rappites
10-13-2006, 06:59 PM
Yeah. . .that was funny. Are we the only two that watch this?

kah
10-13-2006, 07:12 PM
No. It just doesn't seem to generate much discussion. It's not like Lost that way. Oh well.

Kara Milovy
10-16-2006, 12:36 PM
I was ready to cry listening to the heart patients message. I am horrible with names even thought I have been watching this show from the beginning.

I like this show better than ER because it is less gore and more about the relationship. Even though I still watch ER because I have been watching it forever.

Anyway, I wonder if Derek will take Mer now that she has told McVet that she wants Derek.


Didn't it weird you out how both ER and Grey's Anatomy this week ended with a woman doctor opening an envelope of money from a dead lover? The two scenes were almost identical; zoom in on the envelope, show the details of the check, then scan over the amount.

rappites
10-16-2006, 12:54 PM
The one on ER was for $12K right? I miss out on how much Lizzies said? How much did he leave her?

jayce78
10-16-2006, 03:20 PM
This may not flow with the subject at hand , . . .but I can't stand McSteamy


I hope he's just a temp fixure on the show . . . .

kah
10-16-2006, 05:43 PM
8.7 million. I've never watched ER. Until I saw a commercial for the premier a couple weeks ago, I didn't know it was still on the air.

KingVoyeur
10-17-2006, 08:35 AM
I'd love to discuss it with you guys, but I've missed the last two weeks due to work and haven't gotten around to watching the DVR yet.

kah
10-17-2006, 08:37 AM
Well, then for conversations sake- Get the fuck on it!

KingVoyeur
10-17-2006, 08:43 AM
I'm working on it! It's high on the list, but I've also got 2 nights of Heroes, BSG, Dr. Who, Desperate Housewives, and Brothers & Sisters to get through too! Thank God Simpsons, Family Guy and American Dad are all on a short hiatus till Nov.!

kah
10-17-2006, 08:49 AM
Brothers and Sisters is pretty good. I haven't watched religiously, but I've caught most of the show. Desperate HouseWhores is getting pretty hard to watch. Thankfully we still have Bree.

rappites
10-17-2006, 10:03 AM
Yeah, get with it KV. . .Not that I do not mind talking to Kah about this. It would be nice to have another view to it.

KingVoyeur
10-17-2006, 10:24 AM
I dunno, is wishing for a McDreamy/McSteamy/McVet sandwich that much of a different view? :D

Oh, and while George doesn't deserve a McName, he's still adorable!

rappites
10-17-2006, 11:29 AM
All the men on this show are adorable in their own way. About the sandwich. Sure, any view is always different. Kind of reminds me of an episode that I saw watching "queer as folk". Or was it "six feet under"?

kah
10-18-2006, 07:08 AM
McSpinless?

We could name all the guys here. I'll start.

Jake would be McNasty.

fastcar
10-18-2006, 10:55 AM
George is Mcnugget, cause when they kiss, half the time, Callie looks like she's going to eat him.


Of course, now he's McCuckold.

Jakester
10-18-2006, 11:04 AM
You watch this show, Speedy? Please tell me it's for the Heigl factor. Please.
Although, that's not enough to get me to watch. She has too many clothes on whenever I happen to see it.

KingVoyeur
10-18-2006, 11:08 AM
Then you obviously missed the episode where George dreamed of Meredith, Izzie and Christina taking a shower together...

KingVoyeur
10-18-2006, 07:51 PM
Ok, finally got caught up on my Grey's Anatomy. First off, let me just say that I freaking LOVE drugged-up Meredith. She's so cute! She would be much happier if she became a morphine addict! :D Glad she's not pregnant though. I hope she made the right choice. I guess it just keeps the tension going. Too bad we lose a McHottie.

Next, I officially dub George McIdiot, McSpineless, McPussy, McDumbass, any McName that is a synonym for STUPID. He had a great thing with Callie (sp?) and he just didn't handle it well. I agree that her moving in was a huge step that didn't need to be taken yet, George just needs to sit down and really think things through. I know he went home to help Izzie, but maybe he could've asked Callie to come along. I do agree though with the McNugget name, it does look like she's trying to eat him half the time. Maybe she was just too much woman for him. Her reaction is a tad slutty. Good selection though...

Izzie's situation, on the other hand seems to be improving.
Denny gave her 9 fucking million dollars?!?!?!? I'm really interested to see what happens with her, even if she doesn't go back to being a doctor.

I'm also really interested to see what's going to happen with Burke and Christina. Burke was right, she wanted "Preston Burke, surgeon" more than she was just Burke. Looks like she's coming around though.

I'm glad Addison finally got a spine and shot down McSteamy. Unfortunately, after seeing the preview for tomorrow, it looks like her and McSteamy have more secrets.

This was a very character-heavy episode, only one major surgery to speak of, and that was Meredith's. Funny thing is I didn't even really notice it until the episode was over. Shows how good the show is to keep one that wrapped up in it so completely!

Can't wait for more!

kah
10-18-2006, 08:21 PM
I think Christina was finally realizing that she loved Burke for Burke until his whole mental crisis. Now that he is the one suffering from broken confidence, he is the one who needs to be Preston Burke, surgeon, and Christina is going along with it because she thinks this is what he needs. I really think her age and inexperience with feelings is going to bite her in the ass hard here, and Burke is going to be the one to suffer the most for it. It just hurts watching the two of them butt heads like this.

Kara Milovy
10-19-2006, 09:41 AM
I like the way that Christina responded to Burke's crisis. She's still pretty clueless, but the solution is for her to be Christina finding a way to be supportive, not the femmbot that Burke's mother thinks she should be. The chicken thing was brilliant because it was supportive but still in character, still true to herself. I hope she's able to continue to step up.

McNugget was wrong last week, about the whole moving in thing, but Callie was WRONG WRONG WRONG this week and deserves to be hurt like bloody hell by McSteamy. George wasn't "being there for everyone but her" like she whined. George turned down a hot date with his girlfriend in order to hold the hand of a woman whose fiance just DIED and she LOST HER JOB and she STOOD OUTSIDE the hospital for a full day because she's so screwed up over everything that happened. This is called a crisis and George made a sacrifice to come through for his friend. If there's anything "McDreamy" about George it's that, and if Callie can't support that, she's just a selfish bitch.

KingVoyeur
10-19-2006, 12:14 PM
Haha I had to post this just because of Walsh's reaction.

From IMDB.com

Walsh Denies Reports of 'Grey's Anatomy' Unrest

Grey's Anatomy star Kate Walsh insists everything is fine on the set of the hit TV show one week after co-stars Patrick Dempsey and Isaiah Washington got into a fight. The pair nearly came to blows on October 10 during a spat over shooting issues on the series. Walsh, who plays Dr. Addison Montgomery-shepherd on the show, claims its back to business as usual on the set. She explains, "We're all good. They had a squabble. I actually wasn't there that day. I can tell you that we were shooting in Seattle (Washington) just a week ago. All I know is I was there for one scene and there was no one there. And then the guys were there, both Isaiah and Patrick, doing their stuff, and there were literally throngs of women, like 300 women and everybody was going crazy. It's all good." Walsh is grateful that she wasn't involved in the scuffle adding jokingly, "I have big peasant hands. Who knows what I'm capable of.

I'll hafta pay more attention now, I wanna see these "big peasant hands" for myself!

rappites
10-19-2006, 12:27 PM
Me too. Maybe that is why they made her a OB/GYN on the show.

KingVoyeur
10-19-2006, 07:25 PM
Ok, I take everything I said about George since TR Knight just came out.

McCutie!

kah
10-19-2006, 08:10 PM
? Did I miss something?

fastcar
10-20-2006, 04:29 AM
TR Knight got outed.... (http://us.imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-10-20/)


Oh, and Jake, I'm not much for Izzie, I was all about Ellen Pompeo the first couple seasons, now, it's all about...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d2/Walsh.jpg/180px-Walsh.jpg

Addison... Something about her eyelids....and the red hair,

http://static.flickr.com/38/96487322_32cb84950d_m.jpg

kah
10-20-2006, 07:29 AM
Yeah, she's hot.

About her character, though, or should I say lack of character.... I really didn't expect her confession to go the way that it did. I was willing to accept her staying with Mark for two months, and then realizing that she loved Der. However, for her to get cheated on by Mark, and then fly out to Seattle with the "So you're the woman sleeping with my husband" line... Damn. I'm not really surprised, but it does lower the respect I had for her.

This confession proves a couple of things.

1. Cheating is acceptable if the cheater thinks they are in love. (in their own mind)
2. People need to mind their own business. (chief calling Addi out because of Mer)
3. Honesty hurts less than lies in the long run . (If she would've told the truth right away, it would've hurt for a while. Holding out made everyone hurt more, longer.

kah
10-20-2006, 07:30 AM
Ok, I take everything I said about George since TR Knight just came out.

McCutie!


Ok, but here's the deal, KV. TR may be McCutie, but George is still McNugget. Actor- Character. Deal?

KingVoyeur
10-20-2006, 07:41 AM
Addison... Something about her eyelids....and the red hair,

http://static.flickr.com/38/96487322_32cb84950d_m.jpg

You just like her big peasant hands...

KingVoyeur
10-20-2006, 07:52 AM
Ok, but here's the deal, KV. TR may be McCutie, but George is still McNugget. Actor- Character. Deal?

Ok deal. Does he come with a special sauce? :D

I'm upset about the whole George/Callie thing, I thought they might work. :shakehead: I am kind of confused about what happened to her though. She broached the subject of her sleeping with McSteamy with Meredith, which was surprising, then decides to tell George about it. It seemed like she really was sorry and wanted to give the relationship a chance. However, when George goes to see her at her hotel room, she brushes him off and shuts the door in his face. What happened to change her mind?!? I'm not liking her as much anymore, but I liked her a lot originally, so she hasn't fallen far.

How many times now has Derrick told Addison he never wants to see her again and actually had that work out? I'm liking Addison less and less for her actions/reactions, totally losing my respect. I feel bad for Mer now, she dumped Finn only to get a cold shoulder from Derrick.

kah
10-20-2006, 08:27 AM
I'd serve McNugget with a honey mustard/bbq mix.

I think Callie was feeling guilty until George showed up acting like nothing happened. He never even apologized for bitching out on her for Izzy, again. When you have a friend who's an emotional vampire, sooner or later everyone else will get sick of being put off for said EV. I like that Callie is letting Mer in. Those two are a lot alike, and could use someone who understands.

I don't feel bad for Mer for dumping Finn. That was the right thing to do, IMHO. I do feel bad that she picked the wrong time to tell Der. :dunno:

fastcar
10-20-2006, 09:17 AM
Me too. Maybe that is why they made her a OB/GYN on the show.

Could be worse, she could have went into Proctology.

Kara Milovy
10-20-2006, 10:22 AM
I'd serve McNugget with a honey mustard/bbq mix.

I think Callie was feeling guilty until George showed up acting like nothing happened. He never even apologized for bitching out on her for Izzy, again. When you have a friend who's an emotional vampire, sooner or later everyone else will get sick of being put off for said EV. I like that Callie is letting Mer in. Those two are a lot alike, and could use someone who understands.

I don't feel bad for Mer for dumping Finn. That was the right thing to do, IMHO. I do feel bad that she picked the wrong time to tell Der. :dunno:

Sorry, no. An emotional vampire is someone who does it all the time. A human being is someone who does it when their fiance dies and they destroy their career. Big difference.

KingVoyeur
10-20-2006, 10:26 AM
Izzie cracked me the hell up when she was talking to Addison about what to do with the money.

"I'd talk to my friends, but they're all so poor!"

:lol:

I'll be real interested to see what ends up happening to that check...

kah
10-20-2006, 10:50 AM
She is like that all the time. When Alex cheated on her, she demanded everyone be supportive of her, and shun Alex. When George started dating Callie, Izzy tried to get George to dump her because she missed having him around, even resorting to trashtalking Callie to George.

I'm not saying Izzy is a bad person, or even that I don't like her, but dragging George into her mess with cutting Denny's LVAD wire was incredibly selfish and self-serving. If she really cared about her friends, she never would've gotten them involved at all in her criminal activities.

Kara Milovy
10-20-2006, 11:52 AM
You know, you make a persuasive case. :)

She's always been a bit of an emotional wreck. I still think Callie was wrong to put George in the position of choosing. Because, y'know, Dennie did die. I have a lot of sympathy for that. I've baked that sort of muffin myself. And it wasn't "Callie needs me" vs. "Izzy needs me" (in which case, Callie should have won. It was "Callie wants to get busy" vs. "Izzy needs me."

KingVoyeur
10-20-2006, 11:54 AM
Still, when Callie point blank asked George what she was to him, a girlfriend, someone to have fun with, or if he even knew, he couldn't answer her.

kah
10-20-2006, 12:57 PM
You're both right. McNugget has been very wishy-washy with Callie, and with Izzy's EV deal, it's even easier for him to never give Callie a straight answer, which she so deserves. I have plenty of sympathy for Izzy. I think this fuckup is all George, though.

Natalie
10-20-2006, 01:34 PM
LOVE LOVE LOVE this show. Wish I could post more because I would be on here all the time talking about it.

Bad Natalie fell asleep for about 5 minutes during the show last night and missed what the "rest of the story" is on McSteamy and Addison. HELP!

Kara Milovy
10-20-2006, 04:14 PM
Still, when Callie point blank asked George what she was to him, a girlfriend, someone to have fun with, or if he even knew, he couldn't answer her.
Yeah, but you gotta watch her. She gets in his face, she asks very fast, he stammers, she shuts him down.

If you know George, you gotta know that he answers haltingly, and when she's angry, what she does is she leaves him no time for a slow answer and jumps to a conclusion. She never waits him out.

Kara Milovy
10-20-2006, 04:17 PM
Bad Natalie fell asleep for about 5 minutes during the show last night and missed what the "rest of the story" is on McSteamy and Addison. HELP!
Derek thinks it was one or two nights, but they were in love. After Derek left, McSteamy moved into the brownstone and they lived together for about 2 months, until she came home and found him with another woman. Only then did she get the call from the Chief and come out to Seattle.

kah
10-20-2006, 06:38 PM
That's because she was the weird girl. I know how that feels. You want to give the nice guy a chance, but you're used to being crapped on by the bad guy, so you don't give the nice guy a chance to screw you over. The second it seemed like George was bitching out, she took her chance to run away. Remember the prom? Same thing.

Well, you could always watch it at abc.com. :dunno:

Kara Milovy
10-21-2006, 12:19 PM
Actually, I really appreciate that she's the weird girl; and the big girl too, we don't get many of those on TV. I really admire them casting her and I do get her; but she doesn't get George. She loves him, but she doesn't get him.

kah
10-21-2006, 06:06 PM
I completely agree.

rappites
11-02-2006, 07:18 PM
I always feel weird talking about t.v. shows like they are real. I mean it is fiction.

But, I am going to anyway.


Christina needs to stop doing what she is doing for her man. He obviously does not want to do this for fear he may hurt some one or worse kill someone. She pushed him way to hard. And he needs to have the balls to stand up to her.

I am glad to see that Lizzie is back. That is they way a doctor should be. They should be involved and have feelings. She did go way overboard with Denny. But, I would want a doctor that has a heart.

George needs to have some balls too. In fact all the men need to have some on this show.

It looks like next episode that McSteamy is going to hit on Merideth.

kah
11-02-2006, 07:54 PM
I think Christina is breaking, and rightly so. She has taken this too far, and Burke has let it get too far. I hope Bailey busts them or they own up to the truth before they kill someone. I like that they let Izzy come back under severe probation. (I wouldn't let her near the hospital if it was my choice.) McSteamy really is a whore, and who knew Alex was going to turn out to be so likable this season, and such a good Vagina-squad member? Derek's sister made a fantastic suggestion at the end, when she finally had all the truth, and I'm glad he is taking her advice. McNugget will get his woman when he decides to be a man and he's getting there.

Kara Milovy
11-03-2006, 06:24 AM
Do we love that McSister admitted that she slept with McSteamy? We love that.

Okay, let's not let Preston off and assume he's not standing up to Christina. He is very strong and if he's not saying something, it's because he chooses not to. He chose to hurt Miranda Bailey very badly when she was vulnerable last night, rather than let her in on the conspiracy.

And Christina is breaking, but I totally admire it. She has never loved before, she has never had a relationship where she even tried to be selfless, she's a totally selfish person, and I love that she's going so overboard now that she realizes she loves Preston and needs to be there for him. Remember, when he was shot she walked away and then came back. This is her coming back.

But that last bit? Where she just said "thanks" without looking up? That's Sandra Oh being a great frickin actress.

kah
11-03-2006, 06:37 AM
I'm afraid of Burke not seeing it as selfless, though. I'm afraid he's going to see it as her using him to scrub in on all his surgeries.

I loved it when Derek's sister told him she slept with Mark, that everyone does. (I wonder if she was implying the rest of his sisters did as well.) I also liked it when Derek was talking to the chief about Mark. Does anyone else think he's going to have an easier time forgiving Mark than he will Addy? Oh, except for the part where we saw the previews and he's out with Mer. I think as long as they keep their pants on, Mer might help Derek forgive. If not, well, at least we'll get to see some half-naked McSteamy.

KingVoyeur
11-05-2006, 06:45 PM
Someone needs to make a motion avatar with that shot of McSteamy stepping out of the shower. :popcorn:

I don't think Burke will see it as her just trying to get some surgery time. If that's what she was doing, she's been really devious about it, taking her time. Totally not her style. She's way too forward and blunt to do something like that. I think she's just trying to do everything she can (and going way overboard) to keep Burke "Burke". She doesn't like change, and Burke not being a surgeon anymore, the guy she fell in love with, that's just way too much of a gear shift for her.

I wanna meet the rest of Derek's family now, they seem like they'd be a blast (or at least provide some great comedy!). Hopefully Derek is moved enough past all this affair crap to concentrate on Meredith.

I'm glad Callie has finally had a talk with George, short and sweet as it was. I was so happy when she shot down McSteamy. It'll still take George a while to get to the point where he can be serious about her, but I think now that he knows she's open, he'll get there.

I can't wait to see what Bailey has in store for Christina and Burke. I'm fairly certain she's got the idea of who really erased her name from the boards. I think her involvement in the whole Christina/Burke thing will not only bring the question of Burke's abilities to a head, but also their relationship.

spacekicker
11-07-2006, 06:32 AM
Make you think differently about his character.

Like do you find yourself going...dude...George is totally not into the big girl cuz he's gay!

I thought it would for me. But it doesn't, I still want him to end up with Izzie.

kah
11-07-2006, 07:08 AM
No, it doesn't. I think TR is a good actor, because this last eppy when McNugget was looking at Callie, you could SEE the desire and admiration in his eyes. Well played. I don't care what the actor is or isn't in real life as long as they can act.

Kara Milovy
11-08-2006, 06:51 AM
Make you think differently about his character.

Like do you find yourself going...dude...George is totally not into the big girl cuz he's gay!

I thought it would for me. But it doesn't, I still want him to end up with Izzie.
Gay actors play straight all the time. Straight actors play gay. It's called acting.

kah
11-09-2006, 07:29 PM
I really liked the eppy tonight, but I don't want to talk about it yet. The previews made me pretty upset, though.

Kara Milovy
11-10-2006, 06:03 AM
I think the ending was such a relief. I've been thinking about it. It really looked like they were going to drag it out, and you know, I'm SICK of them dragging it out. Derek and Mer really belong together and it's enough already. The thought that he would see her with Sloan and assume and get mad was just too aggravating.

kah
11-10-2006, 06:18 AM
I know. I was getting really worried they would go that route, and I'm glad they didn't. I think Derek knew Mark was behind him, though.

I'm pretty upset with George that he didn't say something to Burke. He knows something is wrong, and he knows Christina is hiding it, and Burke is his friend! I am worried about the previews that show him demanding Burke operate on his dad.

I am impressed that Christina kept Burke's secret rather than outing him so she could do surgeries. I'm sure Bailey will see the same thing and know that what's going on is bigger than she originally thought.

So much for Alex being kinder and gentler. Welcome back, Alex of the Inappropriate Truth Telling.

I think the Chief is finally getting it. I'd like to see him grovel at Adell's feet. If this hand tremor thing doesn't get out of hand, I could see the chief handing over the reins to Burke. We'll see.

I really, really liked Addy and Callie bonding. They are made of some similar stuff, and I can see a deep friendship between them- much more than I could've ever seen it with Callie and Mer or Izzy. Addy needs a friend as much as Callie does. It would be great to see some strong women get strength from each other, rather than the men they are with. Nice side story.

OMG, the baby. :( I cried so hard. I don't know how women who've never had a baby felt during that scene, but when I watched her push the baby out (without drugs, from what I could see), all I could think of was how gut-wrenchingly painful(there's no word that is strong enough) it has to be to go through all that and not have the reward of a healthy baby. I know it happens more often than I would like to think, but still. :( I just don't have the words.

Natalie
11-10-2006, 06:20 AM
I agree! I was proud of mer for not getting hammered and being a whore again. I mean, it would be pretty hard to respect someone who slept with every male character on the show in less than 3 seasons.

The camping trip was a neat idea but my boyfriend and I were pissed. They didn't even spend the night. It was BEAUTIFUL out there and the fished for, what, a couple of hours, fight, stiches, realization - go home? Waste of a nice camping trip!!

kah
11-10-2006, 06:29 AM
I like that she even gave him the sideways "I'm not falling for your bs" smirk. That and all the sarcasm was priceless.

I absolutely agree with you, Nat. What a waste. WTF is with the chief? He brings pate, but no tent? Someone needs to get away from the hospital a little more often.

fastcar
11-10-2006, 07:27 AM
I can't believe they didn't perform a C section on her. That seemed a bit cruel. Maybe it's procedure, but still, that's a bit much.

I wonder if this was the episode where everything came to a head on the set. You can kind of see some tension between Washington and Dempsey.

At this point, I could less about Mer and Shepherd....I'm all about Addison's Anatomy at this point.

kah
11-10-2006, 07:34 AM
Stillbirth (http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancyloss/sbsurvivingemotionally.html)

A cesarean is usually only recommended if complications arise during labor and delivery.

Kara Milovy
11-10-2006, 07:00 PM
My landlady went through the same thing. Baby died in the eight month; I think about 34 weeks. Health of the motherstill depends on going as close to 40 weeks as possible and doing as much natural labor as possible. Labor helps restore the uterus to its natural shape, helps regain muscle tone, helps the heart, helps the body regain balance. Tragic.

I thought not spending the night was stupid.

I thought Alex was pretty amazing, that he admitted that he lashed out at George, and why. Alex is much more interesting than I imagined he'd be.

kah
11-14-2006, 12:51 PM
TR was on Sesame Street today. Very cute.

KingVoyeur
11-14-2006, 03:45 PM
So I was reading the news today that Ellen Pompeo just engaged, and I TOTALLY didn't realize that she was 37! Is that possible? I thought it was a typo, but it's not. She looks like she's frackin 27, if that!

rappites
11-14-2006, 06:26 PM
I am glad that Mer and Derek are back together. I thought for sure they would drag it out. Which would have been awful.

Regarding the woman delivery her dead baby. That was done on ER a few years ago. I cried like hell because I just had my second one. And I fell down hard with my second child and had to go for physical therapy for the back pain. When I had him the nurse practioner was amazed that I carried him full term because he was just barely hanging on. Anyway, I always cry when they show anything that has to do with pregnacy or children on any show.

I hope they do not write Burke's character off because of his problem. How much longer can we expect him and Christina to hide it. I hope that he does not mess up operating on George's father and kill him. And then George will have to out him.

kah
11-14-2006, 08:01 PM
Like I said above, I am expecting that if he doesn't destroy his career by hiding it, that the chief is going to hand over the reins to him when he decides to start putting his wife first. That's my guess, anyways.

fastcar
11-15-2006, 05:18 AM
I hope that he does not mess up operating on George's father and kill him. And then George will have to out him.

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KingVoyeur
11-27-2006, 03:09 PM
Oh my freaking God! What the hell was WRONG with everyone in that last episode? It was like a Bizarro universe episode! George was being a complete assh*le, that weird moment with Alex and Addison was just creepy, Callie had the worst timing when trying to talk to George, and Christina didn't just step over the line, she fracking ANNIHALATED it! Was everyone on drugs or something?!?

Jakester
01-15-2007, 08:50 AM
Damn...take a look to your left. Aren't Heigl's tits F-I-N-E?!

rappites
01-15-2007, 10:36 AM
I don't know if they are fine. Can't really see them.

Jakester
01-18-2007, 12:48 PM
Here:

http://www.torontal.com/dmodel/Katherine%20Heigl.jpg

rappites
01-18-2007, 02:25 PM
She is very pretty. Can't wait until tonights ep.

Jakester
01-18-2007, 04:15 PM
I can...

Kara Milovy
02-02-2007, 09:02 AM
Wow. I can't believe what they're doing with this show. I'm stunned that George & Callie got married.

I also love what they're doing with Meredith and her relationship with McDreamy.

OTOH, I'm not thrilled with Addison's extremely erratic behavior, and I thought the whole 8 million dollars thing and staring at the door was way overplayed.

kah
02-07-2007, 06:27 AM
I just really hate Izzy. I wish she'd go away and be a pediatrician. I love Addison and Callie's friendship. How much must it suck to be Meredith? Your dad leaves and doesn't speak to you for 20 years (because your mom was a bitchy whore), while senile your mother says she shouldn't have had kids to keep her lover (your boss, btw), and while lucid, she tells you how disappointing you are. :( I'm glad she told her off. I know it won't make anything any better, but maybe it'll help her take her mother's criticisms less harshly. :Dunno: McSteamy is a jerk. He's super fine, but not a team player. I love Bailey. :) Suprise, surprise, I am starting to like Alex. It's very sexy how he keeps getting himself into ob and peds surgeries. It really seems to matter to him when he's helping a baby. Maybe it's the innocence. I love that Christina and Burke got all excited after laying down and agreeing on their engagement terms. I miss them having fun together.

rappites
02-07-2007, 08:08 AM
I was happy to see Christina actually get excited. She is such a sour puss. I am also glad that they finally stopped the silence. That was getting old. But, damn that ring was something. I would love to have a ring like that. Even though I do not wear one my self. Can't stand jewlery. But, DAMN.

I am glad that Lizzie donated the money for the clinic. Now maybe she can let it go. But, I doubt it since they named the clinic after him. How much longer will she put up with not being able to due surgeries. Kah you are right that she need to be involved in childrens lives.

George getting married to ortho woman is to much. He is trying to hold onto anything after his dad died. It won't last.

I am glad that Addison and Alex did not further their fling. Her and McSteamy belong together.

rappites
02-08-2007, 07:48 PM
So, what is Grey's doing trying to be ER. ER does those shows well when they have to go out into the field. I like it when Grey is more of a soap opera.

I am sure that Derek will jump into the water to save Mer. Looks like Lizzie is going to drill into that guys head that is pinned inbetween the cars.

It was an o.k. episode. But, I want them to stay in the hospital and play out the different stories on their lives.

kah
02-10-2007, 06:07 AM
I have never watched ER, but I think this eppy was very much centered around the personalities and not the tragedy. Izzy is being a fool. She should not be spending all her time on this man. She knew when she looked at him that he would not survive, but she let his friends pull at her heartstrings. If she actually uses that drill on his head, there are going to be serious reprecussions. I'm a little bit afraid of what those men will do to her when their friend dies. I think something is wrong with that little girl beyond shock. :Dunno: We'll see. Alex did a good thing. He's starting to become the most compassionate intern there. I think that unfortunately, none of these interns was ready for triage. It will be interesting to see the fallout. The bf thinks they went a little too far with this one. He really liked the bomb 2 parter, but he worries this one may become a little unbelievable. I'm reserving judgement until at least next week.

Kara Milovy
02-15-2007, 08:00 PM
Holy.

Sh!t.

kah
02-15-2007, 09:10 PM
No kidding. I hate it when they make me cry. Ask me who made me cry.


Go ahead.



Mark. Mark walking up (and I knew it was him when it was just legs) damn near had me sobbing. Then Addy made it worse. OMG. Previews of Christina pretty much guarantee I will be needing a box of tissue next week.



Bonus- 15 more seconds with yummy bomb squad guy.




Oh, and I didn't hate Izzy at all this episode.

rappites
02-16-2007, 05:12 AM
Yeah, I cried too.

Queen Mae
02-16-2007, 07:30 AM
I don't typically watch Grey's anymore because I think Mere is whiny and obnoxious.

I do think the acting on this show is stellar - especially considering that Ellen Pompeo has said that she doesn't like a lot of the things her character says and does. So although I found this episode incredibly stupid (they aren't going to kill Meredith, the f*cking show is named after her), I was still crying at Izzy's monologue.

Kara Milovy
02-16-2007, 08:05 PM
I sobbed like a crazy person. And yeah, Mark killed me. I actually thought it was Addy; Addy's legs. I was stunned it was Mark. The hand....oh SOB.

And I totally hate Izzy. Cuz she doesn't know jack about friendship if she thinks being a friend gives her the right to say what she did.

kah
02-17-2007, 06:08 AM
I forgot about the speech. I was in shock not hating her the rest of the eppy, so I must have let that slide. The only positive thing I could see in her "speech", was that everyone was distracted for a few minutes by her insane ramblings.

Kara Milovy
02-17-2007, 07:44 AM
I forgot about the speech. I was in shock not hating her the rest of the eppy, so I must have let that slide. The only positive thing I could see in her "speech", was that everyone was distracted for a few minutes by her insane ramblings.

You know, at the end of season 2 when Denny died, I thought the whole plot line had been too crazy, I thought Izzy was totally out of character weird crazy. Then I watched season 1 and I realized, not out of character at all. Izzy has always had serious bats in the belfry. She's nuts.

kah
02-17-2007, 07:46 AM
Yeah. And self-absorbed. That's why I hate her.

Natalie
02-19-2007, 08:52 AM
I just wish they'd do an episode for a full, uninterrupted hour because the stress of waiting through commercials is killing me.

I think it would be just like those sneaky bastards to kill Meredith off - even though my boyfriend said the same thing about them having to change the name. It was also hard not to laugh at my boyfriend (who pretends he doesn't really like the show) who kept saying throughout the episode, "Hey, guys, she still in the water!" "She's been in the water for an hour now, dude, she's dead." "Is someone going to find Meredith in the water?" "Talk, Kid! Talk already!!"

I was completely drained by the end of the show. Derek and Mark were touching. It was awesome how Christina was looking for Mer all day ("She's my person!") and was human again.

I haven't been this into a show in years and I'm so hooked.

kah
02-19-2007, 09:37 AM
No kidding. My boyfriend kept saying "did she even try to swim?" I'm like, "Yeah. Didn't you see her pop to the surface a couple of times? She's been in there a while, she's probably tired and freezing." I have three or four girls over for Grey's every week, and my boyfriend stays because he loves the show.

fastcar
02-21-2007, 08:49 AM
Great, JDM return.....as a dead guy. If he shows up on Supernatural anymore this season, he'll be the guy who now appears on shows as a spirit, not just dies in a hospital.

Natalie
02-23-2007, 09:29 AM
I think they dragged the inbetween space thing too long. I really hoped for something bigger, more climactic, than that to end a three part storyline.

But I love Derek. I can't help it, ever since "Can't Buy Me Love" I've been hooked.

I saw on imdb, I believe, that Addison is getting her own spin-off. It will begin with a two hour episode of Grey's in May and if the response is favorable they'll bring in as a regular series in the fall.

kah
02-26-2007, 07:19 PM
I read that, too. My bf is pissed. He thinks that it will take too much away from Grey's.

rappites
02-28-2007, 06:42 PM
Here Kah this should make you happy.

Katherine Heigel to Leave Greys (http://www.popoholic.com/2007/02/28/katherine-heigl-off-greys-anatomy/)

KingVoyeur
02-28-2007, 07:04 PM
I read that, too. My bf is pissed. He thinks that it will take too much away from Grey's.

Apparently all the other actors are pissed that she's getting her own show. Ellen Pompeo was pissed that she wasn't consulted cause she's the "star" (crazy girl). As for Katherine Heigl leaving, I think that sucks because she's one of my favs. They've invested too much time in her character to just have her suddenly leave.

If things keep going the way they're going, I'm wondering how much longer Grey's Anatomy can last. First the whole Isaiah Washington thing, then just as that's cooling down the spin-off thing is creating drama, and now Heigl may be leaving. This show is one of the few that I felt really had the potential to last for a while, and I'll be really disappointed if it goes. :OhWell:

kah
03-01-2007, 07:38 AM
I read that, too. I really liked her on Roswell, but I just can't stand her character on Grey's. Now, just because I hate Izzy doesn't mean I want her to go. Having someone to loathe gets me even more invested in the show. I wonder if all this drama isn't going to destroy the spinoff talks. Egos, salary, and prejudice do not make a good working environment. One of the best things I learned in the workforce was to never discuss your salary. Someone is bound to get pissed, and it's not worth it.

fastcar
03-01-2007, 08:41 AM
salary on a television show or movie always becomes public knowledge in the trade mags.

kah
03-01-2007, 08:48 AM
I know. Even if it wasn't, though, you know there's always that smug jerk who wants everyone to know he's making more than them. Another good lesson I learned in the workplace- You don't have to like the people you work with.

fastcar
03-02-2007, 03:20 PM
Looks like the producers are the source of the leak using it to make her embarrassed by having it become public knowledge.

kah
03-16-2007, 07:39 AM
Dammit, my shows are pissing me off lately. :mad:

Ok, it's great that Mer's father and stepmom came over because Ellis died and they are worried about Mer, but Mer almost died, too! Why isn't that a good enough reason to come over?

Izzie makes me sick. She really is one hell of a bitch, and I'm glad she's not my best friend. Callie is a liar. A big one, too. You'd think she'd maybe think about getting an apartment rather than spending 15K a month to live in the hotel? Just a thought. And now George is an adulterer. And an ass. Who says their best friend doesn't want them because they're so beautiful- to their wife?!? I liked Derek and Alex today, and Mer was, well, Mer. They really did a great job casting her father. They really do look alike.

Christina's professor.... Wow. He is something else. And that something is nasty and moldy and needs to go in the trash. I'm not really surprised by the insight it gave into her character, but at his age, he really shouldn't be so spiteful.

The petty bickering and showboating between Derek and Burke and Mark was sickening.

Blah blah blah. I liked the eppy, but it really pissed me off, too. Mostly because they put that crap with the chick who couldn't act in That 70s Show on instead of my Men in Trees. :mad:

Kara Milovy
03-16-2007, 08:42 AM
Dammit, my shows are pissing me off lately. :mad:

Ok, it's great that Mer's father and stepmom came over because Ellis died and they are worried about Mer, but Mer almost died, too! Why isn't that a good enough reason to come over?

Izzie makes me sick. She really is one hell of a bitch, and I'm glad she's not my best friend. Callie is a liar. A big one, too. You'd think she'd maybe think about getting an apartment rather than spending 15K a month to live in the hotel? Just a thought. And now George is an adulterer. And an ass. Who says their best friend doesn't want them because they're so beautiful- to their wife?!? I liked Derek and Alex today, and Mer was, well, Mer. They really did a great job casting her father. They really do look alike.

Christina's professor.... Wow. He is something else. And that something is nasty and moldy and needs to go in the trash. I'm not really surprised by the insight it gave into her character, but at his age, he really shouldn't be so spiteful.

The petty bickering and showboating between Derek and Burke and Mark was sickening.

Blah blah blah. I liked the eppy, but it really pissed me off, too. Mostly because they put that crap with the chick who couldn't act in That 70s Show on instead of my Men in Trees. :mad:

I didn't like this episode, for all the reasons you say, although Derek pretty much kicked ass.

Does everyone have to sleep with everyone else? Now that Izzy has slept with George and Alex, must she also sleep with Mark, Derek, and Preston? And Chief? Geez Pete.

Plus, George may be an adulterer but I place a lot of blame on Izzy. He goes to her and he says "I need to be able to talk with you about my marriage and have it be safe for my marriage" and what does she do? I am normally all rah cheer about the slutty women, I love women who sleep around, but this just sucks.

kah
03-16-2007, 09:05 AM
I don't like the fact that George has probably had a thing for Izzy all along but never admitted it because she was "supermodel hot." Again, the bf is proven right. :sigh: Yes, men can be friends with women without sleeping with them, but it is totally on the woman to keep it that way, because the man will tap that ass if he gets the chance.

kah
03-16-2007, 09:23 AM
Let me not forget to mention that once George wakes up, not only is he going to be a cheater, but Izzy is going to make him feel like dirt making a big deal out of what a huge mistake it was. She will be her usual insensitive, self-absorbed self, and will probably say out loud how grossed out she is by the whole thing.

KingVoyeur
03-16-2007, 07:55 PM
I agree. This show got waaaaaaay too soap opera-y last night. Did they think it was getting slow so they had to have someone sleep with someone they hadn't yet? That's not a good sign for any show when they have to resort to something like that.

rappites
03-17-2007, 06:50 AM
I agree about Mer and her father. Why couldn't they come over and spend time with her because she just about died?

Kara Milovy
03-26-2007, 11:48 AM
Okay, here's the thing. Two weeks ago, Izzy says to Alex "Just because I don't want you doesn't mean I want anyone else to have you." Which is horribly selfish, and she even gets that and backs off.

But that's exactly why she banged George and why she now imagines he's The One. Because Callie has him. If George was single, Izzy would have no interest.

And she thinks she's entitled to break every rule because God broke the rules on her by letting Denny die. She says as much when she makes the remark about the Virgin Mary and says "God doesn't play by the rules." She's making an excuse for her own wounded entitlement.

I am SO mad at that woman.

jimmyc
03-28-2007, 11:07 AM
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kah
03-28-2007, 07:13 PM
Okay, here's the thing. Two weeks ago, Izzy says to Alex "Just because I don't want you doesn't mean I want anyone else to have you."

The problem is that most women, myself included always think that when they've dated a guy and have moved on. It's ok for us to move on, but they are supposed to be ruined for other women after us. Most of us don't actually say it out loud, though. :rolleyes: She is still a bitch, and I was actually suprised to find that I was wrong about her reaction.

Kara Milovy
03-29-2007, 06:32 AM
The problem is that most women, myself included always think that when they've dated a guy and have moved on. It's ok for us to move on, but they are supposed to be ruined for other women after us. Most of us don't actually say it out loud, though. :rolleyes: She is still a bitch, and I was actually suprised to find that I was wrong about her reaction.

I actually don't mind that she said that about Alex, because she rejected Alex under what you'd have to call special circumstances. She was in mourning and she said "I'm just not ready." Of course it's natural to fantasize he'll wait. (And indeed, he pretty much is waiting; just lot letting her know that.) And when she said it to him, she also let it go and said "Have a good time."

But it turns out that was foreshadowing. She doesn't want anyone to have anyone else. Because Denny died, therefore George musn't get married. And seriously, who the f#ck is she?

Natalie
04-02-2007, 07:59 AM
I'll tell you what's pissing me off....all these weeks of re-runs. I mean, COME ON! I know it's spring and we're supposed to be ready for the season finale but how can you stay hooked on a show that only gives you one new episode every 3 weeks???!!?!?!

GRR!

Natalie
04-12-2007, 03:48 PM
When is there going to be a new EPISODE????? Does ANYONE know>????

kah
04-12-2007, 08:20 PM
Next week. Tonight was catchup specials. The previews looked really good, too.

Natalie
04-13-2007, 06:41 AM
Yeah, after cursing for 10 minutes when the show started last night and wasn't new (YET AGAIN!) I saw that next week would be new. It's just so dang aggravating!

I would almost rather them have a short season with 8-10 episodes back to back and get it over with!

kah
04-14-2007, 06:33 AM
I'd rather get them all in a row, with breaks for holidays. That way they could break up the year into two legitimite seasons instead of the two weeks new, three weeks repeats crap abc has been handing us for the last couple of years.

KingVoyeur
04-20-2007, 04:11 PM
Ok, while I'll admit that Izzy is a tad nutty, you gotta admit, she's been having the worst shit happen to her. First the guy she goes over the edge to save and marry dies on her, then she realizes too late that she loves someone she can't have (but still sleeps with him), now the child she gave up gets freaking leukemia and is dying and doesn't want to see her on top of that! Can you blame her for being a little unhinged (granted, some of the time it's her own damn fault, but still)?

kah
04-20-2007, 07:44 PM
Most of the time, honey.

KingVoyeur
05-04-2007, 12:15 AM
I'm sorry, was that a 2-hour episode of Grey's Anatomy or the pilot for Addison's spin-off? There was much more interesting stuff happening back in Seattle. They could have easily gotten two extra episodes just from the stuff they didn't show back at SGH. I would have loved to have seen the hilarious episode where Christina and Burke's mothers descend upon the hospital to take charge of the wedding. I would have loved to have seen the powerful episode where Meredith's fake mommy is having health issues that go from bad to worse. Hell, I would've even liked to have seen another episode that dealt with Jane Doe's brain surgery and George checking out that other hospital. Don't get me wrong, I love Addison, but c'mon! All those stories got booted down to the "meh" level in favor of setting up Addison's show. Give us that pilot by itself and I'll watch it, probably even like it. But cutting into another show's time to promote the new show was not cool.

On a more shallow note, is it just me, or did Tim Daly look pretty damn good? Looked better than he did a decade ago on Wings if you ask me...

fastcar
05-04-2007, 04:29 AM
I feel dirty. ABC raped me into watching a stupid pilot for a stupid show. I feel bad for Kate Walsh. This show won't last.

All that hype for this week's episode and it was crap.

rappites
05-04-2007, 05:17 AM
I only watched an hour of it. Or tried too. My neighbor was over and she talks to damn loud.

Anyway, I like the look of the spin off show. I love the cast already. And yes Tim Daly looks good. Men age better than women. I will probably watch it. But, damn!! Do it on it's on time. They did not need to show that much of the new show. They could have showed just a little to tease us and then at the end of Grey's they could have said new show is going to show at this time and date. I may even like the spin off better because the cast is better looking. ~~so shallow~~ I love me some Taye Diggs.

I missed the entire last hour so I could watch ER. ER killed off another character and I had to see who it was.

kah
05-04-2007, 05:45 AM
He looked a hell of a lot better than he just did on The Nine last season.

I completely agree with you. I liked the setup of the show. I liked what I saw of the characters, but it pissed me off that we got 15 minutes of Grey's and an hour and a half of Addy's show. I'm glad they kept her from getting pregnant, at least. If they had shown the pilot after GA, or even on another night, then I might have been more receptive, but as it stands, I feel ripped off.

fastcar
05-04-2007, 09:20 AM
That should have been it. Grey's for an hour and at the end, Addison leaves and it segues right into the new show.

dsilva
05-05-2007, 05:57 AM
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dsilva
05-05-2007, 06:11 AM
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Kara Milovy
05-05-2007, 12:58 PM
The pilot has nothing going for it. Nothing. Everyone is horny and lonely and neurotic. Everyone sits around and talks. It's exactly like Grey's except even LESS realistic.

Spin-offs succeed when they bring a new twist to the original show. Maude was All in the Family only liberal. Rhoda was Mary Tyler Moore only New York and edgy and Jewish. This new show isn't new in any way except it's Santa Monica. So what?

Taye Diggs is great but he has no chemistry with the ex-wife and they're obviously going to have it be an unrequited longing thing.

It was crap.

KingVoyeur
05-07-2007, 11:56 AM
Even the surfer wasn't that cute. They're in LA for Christ's sake, you think they woulda found a real hottie.

Natalie
05-08-2007, 07:03 AM
I felt the same way. I couldn't focus on what I wanted to know about Grey's because I kept getting jarred by the Addison junk.

And if you're oging to build sexual tension between characters, shouldn't you wait longer than the first episode? Espcially, when you've spun off of Grey's where Mer and McD hooked up day 1?

kah
05-08-2007, 08:36 AM
I'm sorry, but watching those three women drool over that disgusting boy, I almost threw up in my mouth.

fastcar
05-08-2007, 09:43 AM
and Amy Brenneman just scares me.