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Meathead
11-07-2006, 07:23 PM
According to CNN, the Dems are leading 166-137 in Congree, and are 3 seats away from taking the Senate (48-45), and lead the Gubernatorial races 27-16...being Canadian, without mid-term elections, what does this really mean for the American people?
I know that it means that the House and the Senate will be able to oppose and possibly defeat Presidential bills, but what does that really mean for America, and more importantly, for the rest of the world?
DaForce
11-07-2006, 08:04 PM
According to CNN, the Dems are leading 166-137 in Congree, and are 3 seats away from taking the Senate (48-45), and lead the Gubernatorial races 27-16...being Canadian, without mid-term elections, what does this really mean for the American people?
I know that it means that the House and the Senate will be able to oppose and possibly defeat Presidential bills, but what does that really mean for America, and more importantly, for the rest of the world?
It means that with the Dems in control of Congress, the rest of G.W.'s term is a 'lame duck' term. That means he has no power to push anything through Congress, and maybe, just maybe the Dems can reverse a few things the Repubs put into place (like the new bankruptcy laws which are closer to indentured servitude).
Meathead
11-07-2006, 08:41 PM
Ruh-roh...he is almost a lame-duck... (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/)16 more seats to go!
sickness
11-08-2006, 07:50 AM
Basically, if the American people are a responsible driver going 80 down an interstate in the middle of nowhere and The Republicans are the ******* who's gotta go 95, climb up your ass and not pass you just to try to make you get out of his lane, we just brake-checked his ass.
Bill_the_Pony
11-08-2006, 07:53 AM
I love that analogy.
:Mwahaha:
Meathead
11-08-2006, 08:27 AM
Now I'm just waiting on the senate race to be concluded.
You know, here in Canada, we have good old fashioned paper ballots and we're done the same night. No extended voting hours, no "too close to call" stuff, no computer touch screens, no hanging chads. Just a piece of paper with a list of the candidates names and circles beside each name. We just put an "X" in the appropriate circle and that's it...
As for the proposed border fences that Bush wanted to put up...go right ahead...they work BOTH ways! :D
sickness
11-08-2006, 08:41 AM
Now I'm just waiting on the senate race to be concluded.
You know, here in Canada, we have good old fashioned paper ballots and we're done the same night. No extended voting hours, no "too close to call" stuff, no computer touch screens, no hanging chads. Just a piece of paper with a list of the candidates names and circles beside each name. We just put an "X" in the appropriate circle and that's it...
As for the proposed border fences that Bush wanted to put up...go right ahead...they work BOTH ways! :D
The whole "too close to call" thing has less to do with methods of voting and more to do with number of votes separating the candidates. And if you've got people counting them, you will have error introduced. Just wait for your turn.
As for the individual races being too close to call and holding things up...
As I understand it, Virginia's election law permits the loser to request a recount if the margin is less than 1%. Pending a request, a recount will be made. This is new since at least 2000, maybe as recent as 2004 and they tested it out last year on the governor's race where 327 votes separated the two. The result of the recount was the same as the initial count with a slight variation in the numbers (on the order of 25, I believe). At this point, Webb is winning in Virginia by something like 15,000 votes. Allen had better hope that last 1% of precints goes completely his way or the recount won't matter.
McCaskill appears to be winning by an even larger margin with more Democratic regions still incoming. No media outlet is projecting a winner yet because they don't want the same accusations of kingmaking from 2000 to resurface, but I'd say it's a pretty long shot for either Allen or Talent.
sickness
11-08-2006, 08:43 AM
I love that analogy.
:Mwahaha:
Thanks, Bill. It occurred to me out of nowhere but I really like it, too. :)
sickness
11-08-2006, 08:56 AM
Wow. I gotta watch the morning news more closely. Apparently McCaskill locked it up overnight, Tester has done the same in Montana and Webb's lead has been cut in half in Virginia. Allen would need 2/3 of 24,000 votes to win, though. Unless the remaining votes are from heavily Republican precints, I just don't see that happening.
Penfold
11-08-2006, 05:21 PM
Republicans Blame Election Losses On Democrats. (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/55018)
sickness
11-08-2006, 05:31 PM
You know, this is so what I expect out of them that I didn't even realize it was a joke until I saw The Onion header pop up.
Adam54
11-08-2006, 05:45 PM
AP/Reuters/CNN/probablyothers are giving Virginia to Webb, and it sounds like Allen may be ready to do so as early as tomorrow night.
What's that mean?
Democrats take House.
Democrats take Senate.
Adam smiles a little.
Kaeos
11-09-2006, 05:37 AM
Republicans Blame Election Losses On Democrats. (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/55018)
Tom Delay: "The Democrats didn't win, the Republicans lost" Actual quote.
They seem to feel that it was their own screw ups and failed political ploys that lost them the election. Not anything the Democrats may have done right.
:headscratch:
omicron
11-09-2006, 06:40 AM
Isn't that sort of what the Dems said last time they lost? "Repubs didn't win it, we lost it."
Whatever. You know how much difference this makes? NONE. It's not like all of a sudden we're going to get out of the middle east, cut our reliance on oil, lower our trade deficiet, fix illegal immigration, control powermad dictators in SE Asia, etc etc.
Same shit, different day. Doesn't matter who's in charge. :confused:
neglet
11-09-2006, 06:53 AM
Actually, I'd expect to see movement on illegal immigration at least, as the Dems are more favorable to the President's plan than the Repubs were. I'm hoping that split Congress/White House will also work to reduce the budget deficit, as the Dems won't reinstate the tax cuts for the rich and Bush won't sign any bills he thinks are full of excessive Dem spending.
Call me a hopeless fool--but Rick Santorum was voted out, and Michigan voters didn't sell out to a millionaire Republican, so I'm feeling pretty good.
Metuzalem
11-09-2006, 10:48 AM
Pardon my ignorance but can someone explain something for me? The press here are reporting that a lot of the people quizzed in exit polls said they chose to vote Democrat because of the way the war in Iraq has been going. What I'm failing to understand is that if voting Democrat was going to change that, why the hell didn't they all do it 2 years ago? I mean what has actually changed in two years to suggest that the Republicans were getting it wrong? :Dunno:
DaForce
11-09-2006, 11:00 AM
Pardon my ignorance but can someone explain something for me? The press here are reporting that a lot of the people quizzed in exit polls said they chose to vote Democrat because of the way the war in Iraq has been going. What I'm failing to understand is that if voting Democrat was going to change that, why the hell didn't they all do it 2 years ago? I mean what has actually changed in two years to suggest that the Republicans were getting it wrong? :Dunno:
You've got to remember, two years ago the Republican'ts were saying that they were still looking for WMD's in Iraq and that they'd find them in just a few days. Also, the Iraqi government at that same time was all set to grab the reins of their country and govern and police themselves therefore allowing troops to come home. Also, troops weren't being sent back for extended (indefinitely) tours in Iraq at that time.
Also, gas prices were just a little above $2 a gallon at that time. Also, Abu Gharib hadn't been in the news at that time (it was released about two or three weeks after the election). AND Dumbass had his whole 'Mission Accomplished' bullshit at that time.
So, at that time, the American sheep were still buying into the notion that their government was actually looking out for their best interests, when in actuallity, the government was just looking out for themselves.
tstone
11-09-2006, 11:02 AM
Good times. Now...let's see what happens. But it was FUN to hear the sadness in Rush's voice.
Take that, ya fat F**K.
Metuzalem
11-09-2006, 11:09 AM
You've got to remember, two years ago the Republican'ts were saying that they were still looking for WMD's in Iraq and that they'd find them in just a few days. Also, the Iraqi government at that same time was all set to grab the reins of their country and govern and police themselves therefore allowing troops to come home. Also, troops weren't being sent back for extended (indefinitely) tours in Iraq at that time.
Also, gas prices were just a little above $2 a gallon at that time. Also, Abu Gharib hadn't been in the news at that time (it was released about two or three weeks after the election). AND Dumbass had his whole 'Mission Accomplished' bullshit at that time.
So, at that time, the American sheep were still buying into the notion that their government was actually looking out for their best interests, when in actuallity, the government was just looking out for themselves.
Well, when you put it like that...... :headscratch:
Seriously though, my sense of time is all screwed up. I can't believe all that has happened in only two years.
DaForce
11-09-2006, 11:39 AM
Well, when you put it like that...... :headscratch:
Seriously though, my sense of time is all screwed up. I can't believe all that has happened in only two years.
Yeah, what a long, strange trip it has been.
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