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Intelligent_Design

02-23-2006, 08:09 AM

You Surface weenies are better off shifting to watching Invasion. Get its ratings up to keep it on the air. That way we won't lose TWO Sci-Fi shows.

Invasion is already off the air. Prepare for tha "Evidence" bitchezzzz!!!!!!

ETA: I've been kinda shifty with ABC since they axed Miracles I haven't watched Fox since they axed Firefly. I download Surface Cause I'm still mad at NBC for axing the "Others" for The F'n XFL!!!! Fuck the Memphis Maniacs I hope they burn in hell

Jakester

02-23-2006, 08:24 AM

I heard it's axed, but Evidence doesn't start 'til the end of March, so I thought we'd get some more eppies.

DaForce

02-23-2006, 09:54 AM

Invasion = slow and boring, while Surface at least advances the frickin plot almost every episode. Also, Surface gets a lot of points for getting a lot of its science right.

Bark

02-23-2006, 01:33 PM

. . . and for the cleavage.

Intelligent_Design

02-23-2006, 02:11 PM

Also, Surface gets a lot of points for getting a lot of its science right.

No it doesn't. A subway to the center of the earth? Come on now?

Bark

02-23-2006, 08:05 PM

[singing] Cleavage.

Intelligent_Design

02-23-2006, 09:53 PM

[singing] Cleavage.

Man, Lake Bell has an Ashley Simpson affliction. She is kinda hott and kinda nott at the same time. I call it the "Hotty/Notty Paradox"

DaForce

02-23-2006, 11:18 PM

No it doesn't. A subway to the center of the earth? Come on now?

I didn't say all the science in it is right, I said a lot of it is. Big difference.

Intelligent_Design

02-24-2006, 06:32 AM

I didn't say all the science in it is right, I said a lot of it is. Big difference.

What about that tin can they rode to the bottom of the ocean? That thing would have been crushed before it got that deep.

Bark

02-24-2006, 11:00 AM

Man, Lake Bell has an Ashley Simpson affliction. She is kinda hott and kinda nott at the same time. I call it the "Hotty/Notty Paradox"

I was talking about the snotty girl whose dog got eaten. Lake Bell's alright though.

Lavoruis

02-26-2006, 05:28 PM

Why bother petitions it's didn't work for Angel:ohwell:

nimsgirl

04-16-2006, 03:06 PM

You guys are such downers. We have been in contact with Jonas Pate & he will present our petitions to Kevin Reilly in May. Meantime, why don't you join us at savesurface.com or tv.com/surface/show/32412/forums.html & check out the info for yourselves. We also have information on the executives snail-mail & email address. We are planning a big May Day push. Come on over! Eyes on the Prize!

Lavoruis

04-16-2006, 06:35 PM

Why bother? most people have already foregotten this show.
as far as the prize is it you? or immortality

Jakester

04-17-2006, 05:03 AM

Fuck. I acutally agree with Mr. Mouthwash.

Do we have to have her as a prize? I mean, I know I'm not picky, but I dunno about this one...

MulderLestatBlk

04-17-2006, 06:14 AM

On the TV.com page that main lady from surface looks like a horse...it's not a flattering picture of her...o_O

/Surface is pretty much dead
//dead, dead, dead
///very dead
////Norwegian Blue, that is

DaForce

04-17-2006, 09:09 AM

Honestly, I'd rather see Surface come back rather than the yawn-fest that is Invasion.

But as what happens with all of the big network shows, the shows that reach the lowest common denominator (like Invasion) usually win out.

Just because a show is mysterious and hard to follow without having a guidebook, Sherpas, and a compass, doesn't make it intelligent or well written. In fact, it smacks of writers making it up as they go along without having so much as an outline of the story's basic premise *cough*Lost*cough*.

So for those of you ragging on Surface, here's to hoping you get more shows to your liking....like According to Jim, or Will & Grace, or CSI: Alpha Centurai Prime.

MulderLestatBlk

04-17-2006, 10:00 AM

The only good thing about Surface was Nim...he should guest star on Sealab!

CSI: Centurai Prime
Just think of the hair samples they'd find!

DaForce

04-17-2006, 10:17 AM

CSI: Centurai Prime
Just think of the hair samples they'd find!

Well, they've run out of places (and spinoffs) to go...unless.....

CSI: Aruba - 112 out of 113 students agree it's the place to be.

nimsgirl

04-17-2006, 04:59 PM

Gee, you guys are mean. The Prize, potty-mouth, is the return of Surface.
Resistance is Futile!

MulderLestatBlk

04-17-2006, 05:41 PM

Gee, you guys are mean. The Prize, potty-mouth, is the return of Surface.
Resistance is Futile!

o_O;

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a332/dollscars/L3MFAO.jpg

Intelligent_Design

04-17-2006, 06:10 PM

But as what happens with all of the big network shows, the shows that reach the lowest common denominator (like Invasion) usually win out.

I would love to read how you explain how Invasion reaches the "Lowest common denominator".

DaForce

04-17-2006, 08:16 PM

I would love to read how you explain how Invasion reaches the "Lowest common denominator".

Meandering story that ignores things like the outside world coming in to help for something like, what is it now, three weeks after a major hurricane? I mean I know FEMA sucks, but c'mon. The writing is the same type of writing that used to be on Twin Peaks...don't give out any info, throw in weird things and pretend it's something that's in the design of the story when there really is nothing going on.

In other words, it tries to make its audience think that they're smart by keeping them guessing when in reality there is no cohesive storyline and the audience is completely falling for drivel.

DaForce

04-17-2006, 08:50 PM

I almost want to liken it to the new Miller Beer commercials. The ones that are saying that Miller is beer grown up. We all know that's not true. Miller is p!ss water. No matter how much someone tries to make it look cool, it simply isn't.

Kind of like Invasion.

Jakester

04-18-2006, 04:38 AM

Forcey, maybe if you'd increase the wattage of the lightbulb over your head, you'd get the show. I've upped mine. Up yours! :)

Nim, baby, yes, I have a potty mouth, and yes, I munch your mom's snatch with it.

DaForce

04-18-2006, 06:25 AM

Meh.

neglet

04-18-2006, 06:47 AM

Forcey, I just would like to know: if Invasion sucks so much, how come you've watched the whole thing?

And if you haven't watched the whole thing, how can accurately criticize the level of plotting/writing?

ps. CSI: Centauri Prime? Better copyright that sucker. CSI: Aruba? You're a sick bastard and I love you for it. :lol:

omicron

04-18-2006, 07:11 AM

ps. CSI: Centauri Prime? Better copyright that sucker. CSI: Aruba? You're a sick bastard and I love you for it. :lol:

How about CSI: Durham, NC? :o

DaForce

04-18-2006, 08:04 AM

Forcey, I just would like to know: if Invasion sucks so much, how come you've watched the whole thing?

At first I watched the first three episodes and was bored to tears. After that, I've tried watching it at various times largely due to all the buzz everyone here keeps making about it, but I still don't see what the fuss is about. It's slow, meandering, and just plain bad tv (and not in the so-bad-it's-good sort of way, either). Trust me, I haven't made my judgement of this show lightly.

I gave it an inkling of a chance. Same as I did with Lost, but don't get me started on that P.O.S.

Jakester

04-18-2006, 08:38 AM

Invasion started off very slowly, but there was lots of set up and character development that I liked. Plus, American Gothic had that same sort of structure, and I really enjoyed that. So, I decided to stick it out, and I find that lots of things are happening very quickly, the show seems to have a definite direction, and the writing is solid and works towards that payoff.

I didn't much care for a lot of the first season of Babylon 5, but I stuck it out because so many people had been going on about it, and I ended up really enjoying the series despite the bad CG and that a lot of the sets looked like ... sets on a stage.

DaForce

04-18-2006, 08:55 AM

Well, I'll tell you what...if Invasion lasts through a third season, I'll rent the DVDs and fast forward through the boredom and see if anything has changed. For now, I'll continue to watch seasons 1-4 of B:TAS until Futurama come on Adult Swim.

That's a mighty big 'if'.

Ya know, I still can't believe that Paul Dini, the same guy that wrote such great episodes of B:TAS is writing for Lost. Truly a shame.

Intelligent_Design

04-18-2006, 09:47 AM

I gave it an inkling of a chance. Same as I did with Lost, but don't get me started on that P.O.S.

The first show you watched was the Season Finale. Then you say it sucked. Who in their right mind picks the Season finale of ANY show as the first ep they are gonna watch? That doesn't make sense. But eh Everybody has their own viewing habits.

In other words, it tries to make its audience think that they're smart by keeping them guessing when in reality there is no cohesive storyline and the audience is completely falling for drivel.

Wow sounds like Surface. With its slow moving tsunamis, Subways to the center of the earth, People walking on the ocean floor, Monkeys that talk like little girls. Large multinational corporations creating monsters that run amok (holyshit I have never seen that before), A kid that can talk to the monsters and make them attack ( The guy that Created "Ben" needs to sue Surface's writers back to the stone age for that one). Yep I tell ya, Surface's writers run rings around Invasion's Hack Staff. :rolleyes:

Queen Mae

04-18-2006, 12:20 PM

I gave it an inkling of a chance. Same as I did with Lost, but don't get me started on that P.O.S.

*glares*

sickness

04-18-2006, 12:37 PM

Surface, Invasion and Lost all suck!

LONG LIVE CSI:MIAMI!!!

:lol: :lol:

Okay, okay. So CSI:M is a guilty pleasure of mine but I don't even know when it's going to be a new episode or necessarily bother to stick all the way through an episode if it doesn't grab hold of my balls, drag me along and never let go.

That said, I've never felt compelled to watch any of the shows discussed here. I can't say if they're good or bad since I've never bothered. I'm all about "My Name Is Earl."

Intelligent_Design

04-18-2006, 12:43 PM

That said, I've never felt compelled to watch any of the shows discussed here.

Apperantly not watching a show is no excuse for hating it.:)

I admit I have an extreme hate for the show Carnival. Talk about meandering plot lines and overacted scene chewing. But I watched every single ep before I arrived at that opinion.

Jakester

04-18-2006, 12:44 PM

at least Forcey gives Bats his props.

sickness

04-18-2006, 12:45 PM

Apperantly not watching a show is no excuse for hating it.:)

I admit I have an extreme hate for the show Carnival. Talk about meandering plot lines and overacted scene chewing. But I watched every single ep before I arrived at that opinion.

Ummm... you missed the part where I said I couldn't say if they were good or bad since I'd never seen them. You also apparently missed the sarcasm I clocked you with in the first two lines of my original comments.

neglet

04-18-2006, 12:58 PM

That said, I've never felt compelled to watch any of the shows discussed here. I can't say if they're good or bad since I've never bothered. I'm all about "My Name Is Earl."

Hey Sicks,

Wakey, wakey, hands off snakey!:smirk:

Intelligent_Design

04-18-2006, 01:02 PM

Ummm... you missed the part where I said I couldn't say if they were good or bad since I'd never seen them. You also apparently missed the sarcasm I clocked you with in the first two lines of my original comments.

I know I was just making the point also that I try to watch as many eps of a show as possible before I hate or love it. Actually Daforce is the only reason I watched Babylon 5 I didn't know anyone that watched it so I went on Daf's word, and like Jake said I the first season was unremarkable. But I know you can judge a shows total worth by watching 1 ep or season. Actors leave writers leave. Things can change. After I watched every ep I agree that B5 was one of the best sci-fi shows ever.

ETA: Still not better than Farscape though. :)

DaForce

04-18-2006, 01:21 PM

The first show you watched was the Season Finale. Then you say it sucked. Who in their right mind picks the Season finale of ANY show as the first ep they are gonna watch? That doesn't make sense. But eh Everybody has their own viewing habits.

No, I watched the series premiere, and about halfway through I was compelled to start washing my dishes. And as I've said before...I hate washing dishes.

Wow sounds like Surface. With its slow moving tsunamis, Subways to the center of the earth, People walking on the ocean floor, Monkeys that talk like little girls. Large multinational corporations creating monsters that run amok (holyshit I have never seen that before), A kid that can talk to the monsters and make them attack ( The guy that Created "Ben" needs to sue Surface's writers back to the stone age for that one). Yep I tell ya, Surface's writers run rings around Invasion's Hack Staff. :rolleyes:

I never said that Surface wasn't cheesy, hell, GvsE was cheesy too, but it was still good stuff. The story is what's important, and as far as I can see, Invasion is still working on finding out what its story is actually about.

DaForce

04-18-2006, 01:22 PM

*glares*

Sorry, Queenie, but I can't swallow the stuff on that show at all.

DaForce

04-18-2006, 01:35 PM

I know I was just making the point also that I try to watch as many eps of a show as possible before I hate or love it. Actually Daforce is the only reason I watched Babylon 5 I didn't know anyone that watched it so I went on Daf's word, and like Jake said I the first season was unremarkable. But I know you can judge a shows total worth by watching 1 ep or season. Actors leave writers leave. Things can change. After I watched every ep I agree that B5 was one of the best sci-fi shows ever.

ETA: Still not better than Farscape though. :)

Well, that's cool that you were able to watch it all the way through. The thing about B5 vs. the shows that we're discussing, is that JMS had always set it up as five year arc from the beginning of the series. So it had a beginning, a middle, and an end conceived from the time of its birth. If more shows had that kind of setup, then we wouldn't be stuck with meandering plotlines, plotholes, and just plain old boring crap.

You got to watch B5 after the fact when it was DVD. You could fast forward through the admittedly bad 1st season. Maybe if Invasion lasts past a third season, I'll give it a shot on DVD with my finger on the remote. Lost on the other hand, I might have to wait until something significant happens, like, I don't know...maybe they actually try to get off the island instead of setting up a Lord of the Flies re-enactment.

Finally, if a show doesn't grab me in three episodes, it most likely never will. Since my tv viewing time is somewhat precious and limited at times, I can't waste my time on something that I feel as more of a chore in watching rather than enjoying the experience. It's like going to the opera...if you don't like opera, you can't force yourself to enjoy it and you wind up having a miserable time.

Queen Mae

04-18-2006, 01:50 PM

Sorry, Queenie, but I can't swallow the stuff on that show at all.

eh, it's okay - there are some weeks when I can't either... but shhhhh, don't tell anyone.

At least it's not as bad as the character assassination that's happening on Gilmore Girls or that did happen on Buffy. *shudder*

sickness

04-18-2006, 01:59 PM

Hey Sicks,

Wakey, wakey, hands off snakey!:smirk:

LOL. That was in the episode "Barn Burner," right? Or was it the other one they aired BB with back to back this week? I know I saw that bit last Thursday night.

By the way, no guy with a pulse could ever leave his "hands off snakey" so the whole thing is kinda pointless. :wink:

DaForce

04-18-2006, 02:19 PM

Oh, hey...forgot to mention one thing...just because I think the shows are dumb, doesn't mean that I was inferring that all of youse that watch those shows are dumb by association.

Minion

04-18-2006, 02:37 PM

Surface always was a strange show. Those first few episodes really had me hooked...it was interesting, intriguing and I kept up with it. Something about the show though never really clicked....I liked what I saw, but I had no interest in going back to it. It was on at an awkward time for my viewing schedule...still is....so I never catch it. Compare it to LOST and Invasion, which are on at perfect times, and it's no wonder that there isn't a soul watching Surface.

Minion: Sorta bummed by that too....I mean, gripe about it all you want, it was at least a semi-original idea for a primetime television show. *sigh* Can't wait until it's replaced by another doctor/lawyer/cop show.

Queen Mae

04-18-2006, 05:18 PM

Lavoruis

04-18-2006, 06:21 PM

After seeing a few ep's of Farscape I thought I was sci fi comedy
pure cheese, I laughed so hard I cried:smirks: the stories are pure silly.

DaForce

04-18-2006, 08:51 PM

The scheduling is a big issue for me. I never watched Surface because it never fit into my schedule... then again, neither did Threshold, but I made a point to Tivo it... of course, Surface didn't have Carla Gugino.

Yeah, Carla was the only reason I tuned into that turd-burger in the first place. That was probably the first time I've turned off a new show after the first 15 min.

And I'm in L-U-S-T looooove with Carla, if that gives you any indication.

Intelligent_Design

04-22-2006, 08:12 AM

I never said that Surface wasn't cheesy, hell, GvsE was cheesy too, but it was still good stuff. The story is what's important, and as far as I can see, Invasion is still working on finding out what its story is actually about.

With Surface I don't try and rationalize or correct this show - it doesn't work. Just sit back and enjoy the gaffes, flubs, inconsistancies, chaos, confusion, mis-steps, mistakes, etc etc etc.

To old-time die-hard Sci-fi fans who have suffered thru times of drought followed by periods of bombardment with pompous, melodramatic, insufferable PC inundated, techno-babbled Sci-fi obsessed with its own self-importance as a "Message" - Surface was one small joy of goofy entertainment that accidently landed at our feet.

I for one, will miss it. The only thing missing was a gorilla in a space helmet.

I still think Invasion is a better written show.