M Theory

[Asonokirk V 2.0]

Or the prevailing wind in physics, membrane theory (which leads to megaverse theory, etc.).

One of the questions being raised is why is the force of gravity so weak in comparison to the other forces? The thought is that somehow gravity is being leeched from the universe in some way, and I would imagine that what helps this idea along is the presence of black holes. I mean, they are kind of like a gravity drain if you will, a hole that gravity is disappearing into because of the immense gravitational pull of the black hole. Well, gee, then that means black holes are where the gravity is disappearing to, since an event horizon is the place that has the most of it after all.

The current idea is that existence is a collection of membranes existing in 11 real dimensions, and that these membranes can and do collide with each other in various ways.

There is going to be some experiment this summer I believe that is going to shed more light on all of this, and from what I hear it is going to be the biggest breakthrough in physics since Einstein's theories.

And what does any of this mean to you or I? Well, it means that we are going to be able to see something in our lifetime that will open up a whole new way of looking at our existence, and I find that exciting.

[DarkJedi]

Fascinating, Asono.

Questions about black holes have always excited the imagination...ie, the "What's on the other side question?"

That's almost as intriguing a question for the imagination as "When did the Universe begin?"

Scientists can predict or say whatever they like on a timeframe but never get the hows and whys of it all.

I believe space and the stars have always been around and any definition of "time" is strictly a human term for trying to understand or comprehend something that is beyond comprehension.

[Asonokirk V 2.0]

Fascinating, Asono.

Questions about black holes have always excited the imagination...ie, the "What's on the other side question?"

That's almost as intriguing a question for the imagination as "When did the Universe begin?"

Scientists can predict or say whatever they like on a timeframe but never get the hows and whys of it all.

I believe space and the stars have always been around and any definition of "time" is strictly a human term for trying to understand or comprehend something that is beyond comprehension.

I'm one of those who believes things are only beyond our comprehension if we let it be so. There is always another question, so keep asking and you'll keep getting answers.

We each have all the time in the world to keep asking questions. If one day we come to some ultimate conclusion, that'll be great, but in the meantime we just have to keep asking, keep peeking around the next bend, keep making an effort.

What I am excited about is the upcoming experiments are going to open up a whole new set of questions to ask.

[DarkJedi]

I'm sure there are plenty of questions, Asono, especially in the drive for humanity's future role in the universe around us.

What I'm referring to is the fact on somethings, there will be no answers in terms of actual "truth" here.

Space and Time are two subjects which we can all form a circle and speculate to the "end of time" but ever knowing the full truth behind Space, the Universe, the creation of both & what lies beyond that.......truth or answers behind any of those questions will be purely speculative.


Alot of fun and imagination as well. :D

The definition of time probably means nothing to the Universe and Space(of which time is meaningless and forever).

[Asonokirk V 2.0]

I believe that what we are experiencing is an on-going creation, one defined by time. Time is a wave we are riding upon into the next moment of creation. The universe remains undefined as the creation process continues unabated.

How can you possibly understand or define something that has yet to define itself? What is left is continuous examination.

[MPG]

Time is a wave we are riding upon into the next moment of creation. The universe remains undefined as the creation process continues unabated.

How can you possibly understand or define something that has yet to define itself? What is left is continuous examination.
I read it three times now, and it still sounds like something straight out of "Matrix Reloaded" to me. I just can't remember where it was said in the movie. Must be one of the Merovingian's lines from the deleted scenes. :D

[Asonokirk V 2.0]

I read it three times now, and it still sounds like something straight out of "Matrix Reloaded" to me. I just can't remember where it was said in the movie. Must be one of the Merovingian's lines from the deleted scenes. :D

Straight outta my own head. Which isn't that far from Compton, actually. . .

[sickness]

M-Theory is just a theoretical physicist's excuse to dismiss the possibility of God. M-theory requires as much faith as religion (as do all superuniverse theories by their nature) and, as such, are as worthy of my belief in them.

[Space Tycoon]

One of the questions being raised is why is the force of gravity so weak in comparison to the other forces? The thought is that somehow gravity is being leeched from the universe in some way, and I would imagine that what helps this idea along is the presence of black holes.

I've been hearing that physicists and cosmologists now had reason to believe that there may be a fifth force of nature, which tends to work against gravity or inertia. There was some question as to why the Pioneer 10 and 11 space probes, at opposite ends of the outskirts of the Solar System, were both slowing down, rather than remaining travelling at a constant speed due to inertia.

The pointy heads couldn't explain this. They did a system check and there didn't appear to be anything physically decellerating the probes ie., fuel leaks or collisions. Nor were there any large gravitation sources nearby, which would have produced external torques, altering the probes' speed and trajectory. Just a gradual reduction in speed.

So the question was raised, what if this was evidence of Einstein's Cosmological Constant? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_constant) A universal force of repulsion acting against gravity and accellerating the universe's expansion? Or even a fifth force? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_force) Dark Energy? (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040531.html) Mirror Matter? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2463143.stm) Or are these all basically the same thing?

And most importantly, does this mean flying cars are just around the corner?!?


Anyway I'm not sure if this has anything to do with M-theory. I just think gravity is a fascinating topic, and I'm always interested in new ideas about it.

I'm sure once they ban evolution in schools, gravity will be the next to go, followed by the curvature of the Earth.


:rolleyes:

[MPG]

M-Theory is just a theoretical physicist's excuse to dismiss the possibility of God. M-theory requires as much faith as religion (as do all superuniverse theories by their nature) and, as such, are as worthy of my belief in them.It doesn't require any faith whatsoever, as nobody is asking you to "believe" in these theories just like that. As Asonokirk mentioned in his first post in this thread, there are experiments ongoing to prove, support or disprove these theories. When religions are formulated as falsifiable theories and when people start setting up experiments to prove, support or disprove religions, I'll agree with you that scientific theories and religion require an equivalent amount of faith.

[sickness]

M-Theory is about forces acting from outside our universe. It is about "membranes" which, in one circumstance, allegedly collided to create the Big Bang. All these experiments can prove is that we do not understand the nature of our observable universe nearly as well as we claim. It can tell us nothing about the origins of the universe or what, if anything, is outside our universe (a question which is at the core of M-Theory). Trust me, M-Theory is going to go the way of String Theory in the 70's.

[Bokchoi Cowboy]

Trust me, M-Theory is going to go the way of String Theory in the 70's.



I thought M-Theory and String Theory were one and the same....

I mean, back when I was younger and running amok with Flyboy and some others, one of the guys had some theories on how you approached things when circumstances between you and a female got to a certain point. Basically, this theory stated if you saw a string, you could theorize she was on the M.

[sickness]

Sick, sick, sick bastard.

[Bokchoi Cowboy]

It wasn't my theory! It was this guy named Scooter! Honest!


Hey, at least be happy I didn't illustrate the point!