3:12 Par Avion (Claire)

[Queen Mae]

Finally we get another Claire episode!!

USAToday (http://www.usatoday.com)
"It goes back to when Claire is 17," de Ravin says. "There's a big jump from where her life is now to where it was then. I play a completely different character because her life is so dramatically different - a lot of very deep emotional issues there that she's still dealing with on the island." De Ravin sports a black wig for this flashback to Claire's dark teenage phase. "You meet her parents and see what she's been dealing with," de Ravin says. A flashback last season led viewers to believe that Claire's father and Jack's father might be one and the same. True? "You'll see," she says with a grin.

John Terry (Christian Shepard) is in the cast list for this episode so I would say that it's highly likely that he is Claire's father. I wonder if it will be revealed to Claire and Jack that they are related or if it will be like most of the other connections on the island and go unnoticed by the Losties.

[alaristhered]

you'd have to assume that the connection would go unnoticed. Think about it: Claire has probably known Jack's full name for a while, if not since the day of the crash.

[Queen Mae]

There's a clip for next week's episode up at ABC. (http://abc.go.com/fsp/index.html?channel=Lost)

And seriously.... HOLY F*CK!!!!!! I think I need to watch it 50 more times.

[alaristhered]

Okay, so...the relationship is going to be revealed. To us? Or them as well? That's what I don't get.

[DarkJedi]

I doubt Claire will ever know Jack is her half brother.

So, only we know.

The last minute had me laughing my ass off. That was one of the best endings in a while.

I loved Kate's look of shock.

Geez, Kate. Living on a beach or living in a house with all the appliances and luxury? I know where I'd be living. :D

I really hope Jack is a supposed "traitor"...It would be the honest reaction to coming to a neighborhood like setting after living so long on a beach. It might even make his character interesting to watch.

[fastcar]

I think they went to the stock plot device well one too many times.


Of course Jack was going to be playing football with them. We haven't seen him for a few epsiodes. The reveal has to be that he's "joined" their side......or at least it looks that way. That frustrates me. Did he go through Clockwork Orange orientation or what?



A few things I thought of while watching One Eyed Willie almost say paralyzed to Locke.

How come Sawyer's eyes didn't get better being on the island?
How come Ben has a tumor but Rose is cancer free?

[Strider]

I had to laugh when I saw Kate's face when she sees Jack playing football. You'd think she'd seen somebody spontaneously explode or something. :wink:

The episode was pretty good though. The security fence thing was interesting, although too-easily surmountable. "Duh...let's put this killer fence thing here, by all these trees. Nobody will ever think to use the trees to climb over..."

Did/does anyone else think the eye-patch guy wasn't/isn't dead? Not sure how he could fake that. Perhaps he had something hidden in a tooth or something. :Dunno:

[fastcar]

It seemed like the longer he stood there, the more it affected him. What if you just ran at full force through it? Maybe you'd suffer a slight migraine and be ok. It's like the first gate to the Southern Oracle.




Anybody getting the feeling that the great man that ole One Eye was speaking of was already seen in that episode?

[alaristhered]

I dunno, I found the whole security gate thing too easy to get around. I will watch this again (God bless TiVo) and think about it some more. But for the most part, it bugged me.

[mckracken]

Anybody getting the feeling that the great man that ole One Eye was speaking of was already seen in that episode?

who? Christian Shepard? LOL!
The guy with Ethan in Miami, that introduced Juliette to Dharma, might also be the "main man" or Alvar Hanso himself. you just never know. My bets are on Locke's Father. Thats just me.

the Sonic fence was designed to keep out something...but other humans? no. It made sence that the Sonic fence was originally built to keep out the smoke monster (sort of) but its pretty effective for humans too. But even the smoke monster could go over the fence...unless it only floats a few meters above the ground which is usually how we've seen it move around. Apparantly it doesnt like the beach either since it hasnt attacked the main group of beach losties yet.
one thing I was thinking... was the french woman left behind so that they could escape over the fence??

[DarkJedi]

I had no problem with them going over the fence.

What's the alternative? Having the the invisible forcefield going upwards in the sky so anything that flies over it dies as well?

I didn't have a problem with that way of beating the forcefield for one selfish fact on my part. I'm tired of the stalling. I want them to see and arrive at the neighborhood. In past mistakes, the writers would have had something happen where the characters have to go around or continue stalling for more episodes...Not this time. They went by it and are now there. I'm glad the writers didn't go with the other route and make things more complicated.

[mckracken]

people in the LOST yahoo group were wondering why there were no dead animals surrounding the fence... well it IS a SONIC fence after all...and it sounds menacing.. perhaps the noise scares off the animals?
I think its a smoke monster deterant and that is all. Its become painfully obvious that the others can turn this field off and on when they want to move around on the island. Its probably left over from Dharma and was aquired durring "the Purge" between the Hostiles and the Dharma group when the hostiles occupied it.

also if I were Jack, I'd be making the best of a bad situation by relaxing with the enemies, he cant go anywhere, they probably told him that and showed him the effects of the fence on humans which is probably what the other flight 815 survivors are doing... hell If I crashed on an island and some people kidnapped me and took me away I'd be freaked out too but ITS A FRIGGIN COUNTRY CLUB TROPICAL ISLAND RESORT for petes sake, its CLUB MED. Whoo hoo.. nobody coming to rescue me... going to Club Med at Othersville sure sounds like a groovy plan to me.

[DarkJedi]

LOL I'm of the same opinion.

Personally, I don't like Jack with the God Complex as most doctors have and as it's been stated over...and over....and over....in this forum here based on LOST.

Alot of us don't like Jack at times with his hangups.

I HOPE Jack is a traitor because it means his character is giving into the honest desires one would feel after spending 60 days on a island beach.

i mean, seriously, if I rolled into that neighborhood community where the kids from Day 1 are happy...and there are appliances and all the comfort of home, I would blend in too.

I'd be happy.

Like I said, that ending was the most honest and fulfilling ending I've seen in a long while of Lost's series.

[kah]

80 days. That's it. They want us to buy all this crap happening in 80 days? Oh, and Aaron is one hell of a big 2+ month old baby. :rolleyes: At least I liked this episode. :Dunno: I don't have much to say about it, but Locke is really pissing me off.

[alaristhered]

Shoot - Locke's father - that is brilliant. I hadn't even considered that! The more I think about it, the more I think you may be right!

[scoundrel]

Hey guys, scoundrel popping in here. Just discovered this forum.

The only way for Claire and Jack to figure out that they're related is if Christian Shephard himself showed up on the island somehow. I wouldn't completely write that off. Although I guess the Others probably have something in their files about Christian being both of the they're fathers.

I like that people are talking and asking questions (and getting answers). Claire knows what's been spooking Charlie. Last week Sayid asked Mikhail a lot of good questions. The tension between him, Locke, and Kate this week was great. Locke sure seems to be a really coniving bastard.

I loved the ending. It was a great Lost moment.

Next week better be GREAT!

[mckracken]

we'll know next week. (although... what are the odds that they'll actually intro "THE MAIN MAN" that Mikhail spoke of next week? I'm betting 100,000 to 1 against)

but he's probably been shown in past flashbacks.
ok Mikhail said he was a brilliant man.. and that it WASNT Ben. hmmm...
Locke's father is a brilliant con artist and a dick.
Christian Shepard is a washed up drunk doctor who's beleived dead but fathered two characters on the island.
creepy french guy that recruited Juliet wasnt such of a genius but could get things done.

one strong mega-hint that it might actually be Locke's father, next week IS a Locke flashback centric show where they'll more than likely deal with his daddy issues... is Locke's father on the island, in the barracks, scheming things? Its entirely possible that Locke brought the C4 to blow up daddy. He admitted not coming for Jack in the previews.

[alaristhered]

Can anyone tell me how much time had passed between the last time we saw Jack and this episode? I don't have a problem with Jack getting happy enough to throw a football with what's-his-name, but it seemed kind of quick to me. I'd imagine that Jack would have to have learned something about the Others mission and agreed with it before he'd feel that comfortable around them.

[Metuzalem]

See, people here are saying that Christian is the father of two survivors. What we have forgotten is not only is he involved with Claire and Jack, but he also showed up in Anna-Lucia and Sawyers flashbacks too. I'd bet anything there's more to Christian than we realise.

[Jakester]

Nothing sinister, Tuz. They're all just random meetings that apparently don't have any larger significance other than to put the survivors on the Island.

Fate has a way of making things happen that need to happen (in the Lost world), sort of like all the weird things that happen to kill people in the Final Destination series. What I want to know is how the Dharma gang is able to influence or operate outside of those rules.

[alaristhered]

Maybe they can't. Maybe that's why they couldn't survive there in the long run.

[Jakester]

They clearly influenced the fate of Juliet's ex, though. And Desmond's jeweler lady knew that other dude's fate...