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RedKarma

03-27-2007, 09:06 PM

Nah, it's only March. :lol:
Actually, I should ask "Can the Cinescape Forums actually handle another female NFL fan?". What can I say guys, you got us started on this stuff by inviting us over on Sundays to flirt and make nachos, and now some of us are hopelessly hooked.

Disclaimer: I do not now or will every claim to know everything about the NFL.

BUT

If I could watch every game, I would. Because I live in the Midwest, I don't get to see too many of the West Coast/Southern teams, with the huge exception of Dallas - I don't know why, but I see a lot of Dallas. So some teams I never know how they are doing except by looking at their scores on a week by week basis and listening carefully to pre-game coverage.

So let's do a little "Team", "Coach" and "Player". Who do you like? Who do you hate? Who needs what?

TEAM
You know what I like to do? Around week 5 or 6 I pick two teams or so that I think have potential and see how they do. Last season, I picked Atlanta and New Orleans. Atlanta proved they had talent, but absolutely no discipline. I was very satisfied with how New Orleans performed, better than I could have expected. Kansas City seems to be the born spoilers of the league. I can never figure out KC, or Miami either.

COACH
I'm not good at remembering coaches' names, and it sure doesn't help when Andy Reid is Mike Holmgrum's doppleganger. He's been created so Mike can get two paychecks, right? :eek: Actually I feel the coaching has dramatically improved over the years - I've been watching for 20+. I think Lovie Smith is dreamy*sigh*, and I can't stand that blonde screamer Tampa Bay has. :puke: Damn that boy is a channel changer.

PLAYERS
I thought Romo really brought Dallas back from the dead last season. Before he came up I would have given Dallas maybe three wins for the whole season. Maybe three. The Bears lost Thomas Jones. Big, sad loss there. Whoever gets him will be very happy though.

OK enough of my prattling. Anyone have any stuff of their own to add?

Otherwise, wake me when it's August.

neglet

03-28-2007, 10:09 AM

It's almost draft time! And if the Lions spend yet another top 10 pick on a receiver, I think I will scream. And I'd rather see them make a good trade down than pick Brady "choker" Quinn.

omicron

03-28-2007, 11:41 AM

Please please PLEASE have Millen select Calvin Johnson. :lol: I swear, I may shit myself and pass out from laughter if that happens.

Oh and in terms of 'choker' Quinn, wasn't that the same knock on Manning when he came out from Tennessee? He couldn't win the big game? I think he turned out to be a pretty decent QB. :Smirk:

neglet

03-28-2007, 12:06 PM

Please please PLEASE have Millen select Calvin Johnson. :lol: I swear, I may shit myself and pass out from laughter if that happens.

If that happens, please take a picture and send it to me. It will be the only thing able to make me smile, unless Bill Ford then fires Millen and/or sells the team.

Oh and in terms of 'choker' Quinn, wasn't that the same knock on Manning when he came out from Tennessee? He couldn't win the big game? I think he turned out to be a pretty decent QB. :Smirk:

I don't think Manning had the rep of underperforming in big games, though. If you look at Quinn this year, his stats look good except when Notre Dame played anybody decent. Then his completions were under 50% and he had a couple of turnovers. I dunno, I just thought all year he was overrated because he plays at Notre Dame.

ethanross86

03-28-2007, 01:02 PM

its never too early to talk NFL...for the record the Patriots will be 2008 superbowl champions!!!!!!!!!

sickness

03-28-2007, 03:46 PM

I'm going to go on the record here. I know the beginning of the season is still 5 months away and the end is 4-5 after that but I'll say it right here and now.

The 49ers will win

8 games during the regular season!

Ooooooops! Did I hit my enter key mid-sentence? :anismirk:

RedKarma

03-29-2007, 10:45 PM

8 wins? That would be mighty nice to see.

Here's some "Key NFL Dates" from ESPN.
Edited for spacing, poor punctuation and grammar.

April 28-29: NFL draft, New York, NY.
May 22-23: NFL spring meeting, Nashville, TN.
Aug. 4: Pro Football Hall of Fame inductions, Canton, Ohio.
Aug. 5: Hall of Fame Game, Canton, Ohio (New Orleans vs. Pittsburgh).
Aug. 9: China Bowl, Beijing (New England vs. Seattle).
Aug. 28: Roster cut down to 75 players.
Sept. 1: Roster cut down to 53 players.
Sept. 6: Regular season opener.

sickness

03-30-2007, 09:16 AM

Well, they went 7-9 this season with a few close losses. They've already sewed up pretty much everyone who was a threat to leave (including Frank Gore in the last couple days -- 4 years, $14M guaranteed... he's gotta be a happy guy and he's worth every penny of it), made some good coaching changes since the end of the season and have been making solid draft picks for the last couple years (B to B+, maybe A- in the case of some individual picks). I think 8-8 is almost expecting them to underperform. 10-6 sounds realistic to me.

RedKarma

03-31-2007, 07:06 AM

I had no idea they finished that well last year. Like I said, I don't get to see many West Coast games, but I did see one if their close ones early in the season.

You've got to be happy they made some good picks in the past, a lot of fans think some teams don't shoot for what the team seems to need.

neglet brought up a good point about a school's reputation "making" a player, and I agree that's a dangerous game. The numbers can't tell you everything you need to know. Maybe I remember the story wrong, but back in the 90's I thought Minnesota made some huge trade agreement to get a QB at the expense of four or five others and they guy turned into a total albatross. Turned out he wasn't so much a great player as his team was #1 in defense that year. Sure he had a trophy, but he wasn't the play maker, he was just benefitting from his team's awesome D. If a team doesn't do their research, and have their own scouts watch the players, that's the kind of crap that happens.

Adam54

03-31-2007, 11:38 AM

Wait...are you from Minnesota? *eyebrow raises*

Minnesota Vikings and Minnesota T-Pups could teach clinics in disasterous trades and contracts. I'm not sure which QB you're referring to, but the Hershell (sp) Walker deal in the early 90s is widely considered one of the worst NFL trades ever.

And the Vikings continued struggles and acceptance of mediocrity makes me all the happier to be a Minnesotan Colts fan. *beams*

RedKarma

04-01-2007, 07:22 AM

:lol:

I have no doubt you took some grief for that, but it worked out nicely in your favor in the end. Nothing like having bragging rights to rub some choice noses in, isn't it?

Actually I'm in Bear Country, but I've found I've become more about the game over the years.

I thought it was for a QB, but I could very well be mixed up, it could be the Walker deal I was thinking of. In the Walker deal, didn't they trade something like two years worth of picks in advance too? Eee gads, that was terrible.

Adam54

04-01-2007, 07:48 PM

Oh it wouldn't shock me if they made a bad trade for a QB somewhere along the line. The Walker deal was...God...let me google it quick.

Vikings in bold. Cowboys not. Too difficult to line everything up just right so it's all pretty. :p

The end results of the trade after 1992:
Vikings Cowboys
WR Jake Reed RB Emmitt Smith
DT Russell Maryland
CB Kevin Smith
S Darren Woodson
CB Clayton Holmes

Players selected with the actual picks traded to Dallas:
1990 1st Round (#21) TE Eric Green Pittsburgh
1990 2nd Round (#47) DT Dennis Brown San Francisco
1990 6th Round (#158) LB James Williams New Orleans
1991 1st Round (#11) OT Pat Harlow New England
1991 2nd Round (#38) DB Darryl Lewis Houston
1992 1st Round (#13) OL Eugene Chung New England
1992 2nd Round (#40) QB Matt Blundin Kansas City
1992 3rd Round (#71) RB Kevin Turner New England

And Walker only played a year, I think, for the Vikes.

This was the trade in it's original form. The above is what happened after Dallas moved around some of the Vikings picks.

Vikings Cowboys
RB Herschel Walker LB Jesse Solomon
Dallas's 3rd round pick - 1990 (54) LB David Howard
San Diego's 5th round pick -1990 (116) CB Isaac Holt
Dallas's 10th round pick - 1990 (249) Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (21)
Dallas's 3rd round pick - 1991 (68) Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1990 (47)
Minnesota's 6th round pick in 1990 (158)
Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional)-(11)
Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional) - (38)
Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1993 (conditional) - (13)
Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional) - (40)
Minnesota's 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional) - (71)

Complete link here:

http://vikings.scout.com/2/11653.html

RedKarma

04-02-2007, 06:57 AM

Damn that's one tangled mess. Three years worth of picks? I know some of them were conditional, but please. They did a total gut job on their own team for this madness. I used to like the Vikings in '88, but then they just stopped producing. Now I know why.

And then, to top it all off, Walker winds up at Dallas. Too funny.

Thanks for the link Adam.

RedKarma

04-03-2007, 07:49 AM

Bears will host the Colts Game 2.

Damn ESPN for not posting the season schedules yet. You know these things have to be laid out at least two years in advance.

sickness

04-03-2007, 09:53 AM

They sure don't. Except for division games and a few others, they're dependent on the prior year's results.

RedKarma

04-03-2007, 03:26 PM

I suppose you're right. I guess I have division tunnel vision.

NFL.com just posted the season schedules, they have the Colts hosting the Bears. I'm done with ESPN.com forever.

Also, the China Bowl has been scrubbed until 2009 in favor of London.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10103814

sickness

04-03-2007, 06:49 PM

Hmmm... 49ers will see the difficulty ratcheted up a bit on them this season. Here are their home and away games (dates and times still TBA).

Home
Arizona, St. Louis, Seattle, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Minnesota, Baltimore, Cincinnati

Away
Arizona, St. Louis, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina, N.Y. Giants, Cleveland, Pittsburgh

Of their division rivals, only Arizona is less than 8-8. Of non-division, conference opponents, only 2 of the 6 teams finished less than 8-8. Of the AFC teams rounding out their schedule, only Cinci is less than 8-8 (4-12). Baltimore was second in the AFC only to San Diego's 14-2. 10 of their games are against teams that ended the 2006 season 8-8 or better.

How do your teams schedules look, Maniacs?

omicron

04-04-2007, 07:56 AM

Dallas Cowboys

HOME

09/09 NY Giants
11/22 NY Jets
Washington
Philadelphia
New England
Green Bay
Minnesota
St. Louis
AWAY GAMES

Washington
NY Giants
Philadelphia
Chicago
Detroit
Carolina
Buffalo
Miami

Other than the Pats, I am not too afraid of the AFC schedule. And the NFC North division doesn't scare me too much either.

Adam54

04-04-2007, 07:42 PM

the NFC north division IS the Chicago Bears.

The Vikings are going to suck. I heard that in the Minneapolis Paper a couple weeks ago. They were quoting the OWNER of the team as saying "yeah...probably not gonna be much better than 6-10 again. But it's still not the coach's fault!!!"

The Packers won't be good because they have an over the hill QB and a bunch of second tier role players.

And the Lions. Well, they'll be out of the race as soon as Matt Millen drafts. And yet another promising wide receiver will have his career killed.

neglet

04-05-2007, 07:59 AM

And the Lions. Well, they'll be out of the race as soon as Matt Millen drafts. And yet another promising wide receiver will have his career killed.

I'm getting ready to cut holes in another brown paper bag. Although I do have to say that some of the free agent moves the Lions have made in the off season are not bad, so if they don't waste their draft pick again I think we'll see definite improvement from 3-13. (Woo f*ckin' hoo.)

RedKarma

04-07-2007, 06:55 PM

I'd like to see more of San Diego this year, I can't believe they did so well and yet I didn't see hardly any of their games. :rolleyes: Same thing for the Jets.

I wish I could say I had a lot of interest in Chicago even though they're my home team, but I don't think they'll do as well in 2007. The McCaskeys have proven time and again with few exceptions that if they can't get a player for bargain basement discount prices, they'd just as soon lose. That and I have no faith whatsoever in Rex Grossman.

omicron

04-10-2007, 11:21 AM

Pacman out a year, Henry out half a season (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2832015).

Wow, didn't think the NFL had the balls to do this. I can bet the player's union is going to raise a stink about this.

neglet

04-10-2007, 12:50 PM

Good for the league. Some of these players were making a complete joke out of league through their behavior; maybe now we'll see fewer players show up on police reports.

sickness

04-10-2007, 01:02 PM

It's about time. 10 years is far too long to allow this crap to go on in professional sports. It all started with Sprewell choking out Carlesimo and went downhill from there. Honestly, though, I don't think this is enough. I've been telling people since then that criminal acts should net you a lifetime ban from whatever league you play in.

Adam54

04-10-2007, 10:16 PM

Welcome to the Roger Goodell era. Excellent to see, excellent way to start a new regime, and I hope it's only the start of things to come.

colmatrix

04-10-2007, 11:42 PM

The guy is young, but now we know he's going to run a tight ship. This has been needed in all sports, but especially the NFL. I saw an article today saying something like 50 players have been arrested the past few years? Too many.

omicron

04-11-2007, 11:13 AM

Season Schedule is out (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2830469)

rappites

04-12-2007, 07:58 AM

I predict the COLTS again this year.

omicron

04-30-2007, 07:02 AM

Ok, the draft's over and your team has new players. How do you feel? Who had the best draft?

Obviously, I think the Browns did some fine work. They could potentially have their starting QB and his blindside protector for a decade to come.

I am ok with the Cowboy's draft. Spencer might turn out to be a nice bookend to DeMarcus Ware. I really would have like to have gotten a good receiver.

Natalie

04-30-2007, 09:05 AM

I felt pretty bad for Brady Quinn sitting in that room with his skanky girlfriend for so long. I mean, hour after hour, waiting....depressing.

Denver came out pretty well, although I questioned trading a 3rd round pick to move up 4 spots.

I think we're going to Chicago this year for a Broncos game if we can work out our schedules. Anyone nearby want to meet up?

neglet

04-30-2007, 11:01 AM

Strange as it seems, I'm okay with the Lions drafting yet another WR in the first round. This Johnson kid seems to have the skills, and his head on straight. Since they couldn't get a trade offer they like, why pass up a guy who could be the next Randy Moss (the stats, not the attitude)?

Now, I thought it was crazy to draft a QB in the second round, but since they traded up to get two more second round picks (on defense), and still had a third, fourth, and two fifth rounders left, I can't say the Lions had an awful draft. I think they did pretty well with free agents in the off season; most important, we've got a new coach.

omicron

05-22-2007, 11:33 AM

Dallas gets the 2011 Superbowl (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2878922)

RedKarma

08-23-2007, 02:15 AM

Rex Grossman

He's like Superman AND Lex Luthor.

He's saving you, or he's killing you, or he's saving you while killing you or killing you while saving you.

Aikman said it best when he espoused the theory that Rex is making fundamental mistakes. I don't know how this guy still has the top spot. Several of the wins last year were pulled straight out of thin air in my opinion, mostly due to the actions of an individual player recovering the ball or Hester's runbacks.

Ah, hurry Sept. 9, Mama needs her some real NFL. Pre-season just isn't enough to quench this thirst.

neglet

08-23-2007, 06:46 AM

No kidding. Although it is nice to turn on the NFL Network any time of day and find a game going on. It's better than being stuck with golf or racing, which is about all I can find on TV on the weekends.

My Lions are saying all the right things this year. They seem to have the right attitude. They've won their first two preseason games. Jon Kitna looks sharp. But then, that always happens before they head into the toilet. Ah, hope springs eternal in the heart of a Lions fan! Maybe this year I won't have to get the paper bag out until December!

TrekSucksHard

08-24-2007, 01:42 AM

Rex Grossman

He's like Superman AND Lex Luthor.

He's saving you, or he's killing you, or he's saving you while killing you or killing you while saving you.

Aikman said it best when he espoused the theory that Rex is making fundamental mistakes. I don't know how this guy still has the top spot. Several of the wins last year were pulled straight out of thin air in my opinion, mostly due to the actions of an individual player recovering the ball or Hester's runbacks.

You got that right- Grossman is the one chink in the armor of an otherwise superior Bears team. I hope Lovie Smith will do the right thing and yank him out the moment he starts to falter- I have been a long suffering Bears fan for years and we gotta win the Superbowl this year before Urlacher and the rest of the D gets too old. :mad:

RedKarma

08-28-2007, 04:13 AM

Pre-Season Notes

Anyone make any observations so far?

Looks like Philly's D has improved to some degree over last season. I still wouldn't put my money on them to beat a wet paper bag, but it's nice to see a little progress.

Any comments regarding pre-season games you've seen?

neglet

08-28-2007, 07:07 AM

I think Pittsburgh is going to do better than 8-8 this year.

Gentlemen Death

08-28-2007, 09:29 PM

REDSKINS, BABY!!! THEY ARE GOING PLACES THIS YEAR, I CAN FEEL IT! :cool:

omicron

08-29-2007, 12:14 PM

yeah, last place in the NFC east, that's where they're going. :) Go Cowboys!!

Gentlemen Death

08-29-2007, 06:12 PM

yeah, last place in the NFC east, that's where they're going. :) Go Cowboys!!

Oh, ok....We got a Cowboys fan here, huh?.....Alright, well for now on I do not like you and you should not like me....:D

Anyways, I agree that the Redskins have not done good for awhile, but that just goes to show that I am a TRUE fan and will stick with my team regardless of the fact that they have not been in the Super Bowl for quite some time....But they will still kick the Cowboys ass the first game they play eachother Omicron, I am calling it! :D

neglet

08-30-2007, 07:11 AM

Anyways, I agree that the Redskins have not done good for awhile, but that just goes to show that I am a TRUE fan and will stick with my team regardless of the fact that they have not been in the Super Bowl for quite some time....

Ha, you call that being a "true fan," your team not being in the Super Bowl for a while? Try your team winning one playoff game in the LAST 50 YEARS and you still root for the team!

That's being a fan. <cheer>Lions, Lions, meow meow meow!</cheer>

p.s. ... And that single playoff victory? Over the Cowboys, which almost makes the drought worth it. Heh heh heh.:cool:

neglet

08-31-2007, 06:36 AM

I've created a Yahoo! Group to manage the math. We'll put reminders and rankings in here each week. Here's where to go:

Yahoo Mania Pick'em (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/pickem/51102)

Group name: Mania Picks (ID #51102)
Passwords: Cinescape

First game is Thurs. Sept. 6, so sign up and get your picks in soon!

neglet

08-31-2007, 06:40 AM

Home teams for Week 1 (since Pick 'em doesn't show it, grr)

Indy, Green Bay, Houston, Buffalo, Cleveland, St. Louis, Minnesota, NY Jets, Washington, Jacksonville, San Diego, Seattle, Oakland, Dallas, Cinci, San Fran

kah

08-31-2007, 08:22 AM

Do you have to have a yahoo account to get into that?

neglet

08-31-2007, 09:03 AM

I'm not sure--I thought most people posting were in the fantasy league, so they had one anyway.

If you don't want to get a yahoo account, I suppose you can post your picks here and we'll compare them to the yahoo table. I just thought the more people used the yahoo pick'em, the fewer calculations we'd have to do.

Penfold

08-31-2007, 12:10 PM

I'm in as Dr. Worm. And Pick 'Em does show the home teams - they're the ones in all caps.

Gentlemen Death

08-31-2007, 01:49 PM

So, whats the difference between Fantasy football and this one...:headscratch:

DarkJedi

08-31-2007, 02:03 PM

Lmao Gentleman, I'm starting to question whether you're coming here under the influence. :D

Fantasy Football means picking players..changing lineups and seeing if your 10-12 players/Defense/Kicker beat your opponents...like your Running Back racking up 200 yards & 2 TDS the next week vs. your opponent's running back only getting 50 rushing yards & 0 TDS...

Pick em League is just seeing if you can pick which team wins...Like...."I think the Giants will beat the Eagles this week...!" or vice versa...

Gentlemen Death

08-31-2007, 03:11 PM

Gentlemen Death

08-31-2007, 03:16 PM

Alright I am in there as Dr.DigIt, so I did not see anywhere to pick the teams for the week....Any thoughts?

Penfold

08-31-2007, 06:22 PM

Go to "My Picks", then click the word "edit" beside week one.

rappites

08-31-2007, 07:43 PM

O.k. I signed up. I like this much better than the way we did it last year.

GD you crack me up. Mail me some of that stuff your smoking.

Gentlemen Death

08-31-2007, 08:33 PM

O.k. I signed up. I like this much better than the way we did it last year.

GD you crack me up. Mail me some of that stuff your smoking.

Ok people....First the poop and now this? I am not on illegal drugs...Legal however, is a different story...:D

RedKarma

09-02-2007, 12:07 AM

Do you have to pick a winner for every game? I hate having to guess Monday night, it's totally psychotic and I can't see the game.

DarkJedi

09-02-2007, 02:18 AM

lol Red Karma, most of football pick em is luck on the fly no matter what says anyone. Monday Night Football not excluded. A key player goes down in week 4 and your week 5 picks get royally screwed.... :D

O.k. I signed up. I like this much better than the way we did it last year.

GD you crack me up. Mail me some of that stuff your smoking.

I like this way too...I'm wondering...Negs mentioned last year's league..I don't remember being a part of that?? Was it a Cinescape league? Still, I see six teams in our official Yahoo Cinescape league and I'm sure everyone here might want to get involved later so we could also do the forum pick em thread as well if we choose to..

And yes, I'm starting to wonder what GD will send you Raps. I know this much...if butthead is on something, I will totally kick his ass in Gears of War or some other game when I get my Xbox Live account reactivated... Muhahaha.

kah

09-02-2007, 07:57 AM

So I signed up for a goddamned yahoo account, and now the stupid sign in page is telling me I have the wrong password for the group. :mad:

TrekSucksHard

09-02-2007, 10:00 AM

Whats wrong with just picking them here like last time? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the sports forum here? :headscratch:

Gentlemen Death

09-02-2007, 01:37 PM

lol Red Karma, most of football pick em is luck on the fly no matter what says anyone. Monday Night Football not excluded. A key player goes down in week 4 and your week 5 picks get royally screwed.... :D

I like this way too...I'm wondering...Negs mentioned last year's league..I don't remember being a part of that?? Was it a Cinescape league? Still, I see six teams in our official Yahoo Cinescape league and I'm sure everyone here might want to get involved later so we could also do the forum pick em thread as well if we choose to..

And yes, I'm starting to wonder what GD will send you Raps. I know this much...if butthead is on something, I will totally kick his ass in Gears of War or some other game when I get my Xbox Live account reactivated... Muhahaha.

Hehehe, I will not be on these painkillers for long buddy....I also do not have Gears Of War, but I am planning on getting it....Just get ready, son!

DarkJedi

09-02-2007, 02:38 PM

Kah...try "cinescape". I put in Cinescape and it said wrong password too so I just took off the capital "C" and it worked.

RedKarma

09-03-2007, 06:47 AM

lol Red Karma, most of football pick em is luck on the fly no matter what says anyone. Monday Night Football not excluded.

You are such a doll, how have you not been corrupted by the perverts here? :lol:

I'm sorry, I guess I didn't make myself clear. For example, Denver @ Buffalo. I didn't see either team play much last year so I don't really want to pick a winner. Can skip a few games or will Yahoo! keep prompting me to pick someone in the match up before it will post my guesses?

kah

09-04-2007, 07:21 AM

Thanks, DJ.

neglet

09-04-2007, 08:27 AM

I think you can skip picks (I frequently missed weeks last year by forgetting to pick), but I'm not sure how it affects your running total.

neglet

09-06-2007, 06:40 AM

Get your week 1 picks in tonight before 8:30 EST! If you can't register for the Yahoo Pick'em, include picks below before the deadline. Here are the games:

New Orleans at Indianapolis
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Carolina at St. Louis
Atlanta at Minnesota
Kansas City at Houston
Denver at Buffalo
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
New England at NY Jets
Miami at Washington
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
Tampa Bay at Seattle
NY Giants at Dallas
Baltimore at Cincinnati
Arizona at San Francisco

Gentlemen Death

09-06-2007, 09:10 PM

Did you honestly think the Saints were going to win.....:cool:

DarkJedi

09-07-2007, 01:06 AM

Alright, I knew the Colts would win tonight but I was still actually surprised when watching the opening game of the season. I can't believe the Saints secondary got tore up as bad as they did in that game. Obviously, this is Manning/Harrison/Wayne we're talking here so they can do damage even to a good secondary but I'm surprised they took New Orleans for that kind of ride.

Equally surprising is the Saints falling apart like that in the 4th quarter...

DarkJedi

09-07-2007, 01:10 AM

Nobody from our Pick Em League picked the Saints, Gentlemen...Everyone picked the Colts.

DarkJedi

09-07-2007, 01:11 AM

So we can discuss NFL and picks together, going to combine the two threads and retitle it.

DarkJedi

09-07-2007, 01:15 AM

There we go...

RedKarma

09-07-2007, 07:34 AM

Wow, I usually only see such use of power & control when my mother-in-law leaves town....unstrangled.

And now back to your regularly scheduled NFL madness.

Gentlemen Death

09-10-2007, 04:00 PM

I hope no one minds me posting everyones totals...If so, please let me know and I will not do so. But, it seems like things are going ok....

7th place is not THAT bad....All I know is that my team, WASHINGTON REDSKINS!, won and that makes me happy....1st place would also make me happy....Maybe a hug....:(

1 Droogie 12
2 Neglet's Picks 11
3 Dr. Worm 10
3 Omicron's Brew Crew 10
3 Chiefs Better Not Suck 10
3 kah 10
7 Dr. DigIt 8
8 Rappites 6
9 Umbrella 5

rappites

09-10-2007, 08:19 PM

Did this include tonights games?

I don't think so.

Gentlemen Death

09-10-2007, 08:28 PM

No, it was just from yesterday's standings....:cool:

TrekSucksHard

09-10-2007, 09:46 PM

Goddamn it- the Bears lose two defensive guys for the year. Looks like the Superbowl loser curse is alive and well- pity Grossman didn't go down with an injury... :Tongue:

The Tyrant Virus

09-11-2007, 07:48 AM

Well, I um...I seem to absolutely suck at any football related stuff. All 3 of my fantasy teams lost (here, WoW guild, and work teams) and I pretty much came in last in our pick 'em and the office pool. Yikes.

neglet

09-11-2007, 08:32 AM

Official Week 1 standings:

Droogie 14
Neglet's Picks 13
Chiefs Better Not Suck 12
kah 11
Omicron's Brew Crew 11
Dr. Worm 10
Dr. DigIt 9
Rappites 7
Umbrella 6

And ha ha, the Lions managed to win a game on the road! Sure, it was against the Raiders, but we'll take it!

kah

09-11-2007, 08:39 AM

I know. I was yelling in the bar. (There was only one other person there, and he rolled his eyes at me.) GO DETROIT!

sickness

09-11-2007, 03:08 PM

Do you two know what's the scarier thing about that Detroit-Oakland game?

It actually aired in the Bay Area. That's only happened with a handful of Raiders' home games since they moved back from LA.

RedKarma

09-11-2007, 10:24 PM

I thought the Philly/GB game would be pretty evenly matched, that was actually fun to watch since I'm not emotionally vested in either team. I figured GB would win since they were at home.

Disappointing would be the word I'd use for Chicago v. SD, come on people, ALL of the points were on turnovers?! ALL of them?! I think the Bears Offensive Coordinator needed a brisk slap upside his head. ("Let's run it up the middle. That didn't work, OK, how about running it up the middle. Nothing? All right try this on for size, run it up the middle!")

Don't worry Trek, I'm sure Rex Luthor will probably make an appearance soon and hopefully be torn apart by foaming at the mouth die hards - or maybe the turf at the first dome game will do it for us. But for once it wasn't about him pooching it up too much.

Buffalo may be in serious trouble as they now have Dick Juran. (sp?) Chicago had him for a while, we call those the "Sucks Almost As Much as Wannstedt" years.

I didn't get to see any of the Monday night action, anyone have any comments?

DarkJedi

09-12-2007, 12:56 AM

Sure..

Not sure why the Niners gameplan was so conservative but they should have gave Alex Smith some more aggressive play calls. I understand that Arizona's defense was playing better then usual but 3 runs up the middle in top of the 4th quarter for 2 consecutive drives make little to no sense...They weren't even running to open up the pass game as is the normal strategy.

It was just way too conservative a game plan.

In the end, Alex Smith put the team on his shoulders and carried their asses to the endzone in the last two minutes but it should have never come down to that..

Gentlemen Death

09-13-2007, 11:59 AM

I was just curious...But, whomever wins this...Do we get like a Mania T-Shirt or something?:cool:

kah

09-13-2007, 08:15 PM

No. But we do get to make funny faces at everyone else and say "na na na boo boo." Well, or so I hear. I'm not any good at picking games after the first half of the season.

DarkJedi

09-13-2007, 09:06 PM

Heh, I'm thinking about something.

Of course, I may win...then I get to reward myself.

kah

09-13-2007, 10:05 PM

Like you don't already reward yourself enough as it is.

DarkJedi

09-14-2007, 12:46 AM

Like I'm going to deny that... :D

RedKarma

09-14-2007, 05:54 AM

I was just checking out the NFL's schedule, there NO Thursday night games until Week 12. Well, I'll be...something.

I guess they figure once they got us watching on Thanksgiving they better keep it up.

Sunday, September 16
NO @ TB
GB @ NYG
SF @ STL
ATL @ JAC
IND @ TEN
CIN @ CLE
BUF @ PIT
HOU @ CAR
SEA @ ARI
MIN @ DET
DAL @ MIA
KC @ CHI
OAK @ DEN
NYJ @ BAL
SD @ NE

Monday, September 17
WAS @ PHI

San Diego at NE looks like a good game, and I'm curious to see if Atlanta will overcome some of their drama queen problems that they exhibited last year. We'll probably get Indy or the GB game though.

omicron

09-15-2007, 01:06 PM

Any thoughts about the Pats getting caught cheating?
Honestly, I don't really care. Pats are good, and I really don't know how much they could benefit by trying to read signals.

DarkJedi

09-15-2007, 09:16 PM

I think ESPN and various media outlets are jumping on this story like the normal sharks they are all for the benefit of ratings...which is usually the case. They're making the Pats to be sneaky villains because it makes an engaging story after so many years of them on top. First, they prop them on the pedestal and now, they want to tear that pedestal down...They know full well that everyone probably tries to cheat, it's just a matter of getting caught with your hands in the cookie jar as is the case with the Pats right now.

Understand, I'm not talking "conspiracy" theories here when I stated earlier that ESPN and media outlets are making the Pats to be the villain. It's just a really engaging story..and we know media wants the "top to fall" after a fashion because it makes a really good story.

The NFL has become a booming business and media outlets would love to tear it a new hole and reveal weakness all for great ratings..The very same thing happened after Baseball came into the spotlight. Yes, Baseball Players have been cheating for decades but when they were gaining such a following after the homerun era became known, ESPN and various outlets literally jumped at the chance to tear them down and reveal themselves...Even now, there is still a blind eye towards Baseball from media outlets. While the outlets focus on "homeruns" and people like Bonds, they still ignore the fact about cheating in Baseball for decades...They still refuse to admit that "pitchers" may have used the drugs also. When a pitcher gets caught, then they(ESPN and Co.) will start focusing on pitchers because that will be the engaging story at that time...

The same will be true for the NFL one day very soon. Media wants a good story and this makes a good story...an engaging story....

Yes, no matter how idealistic it is to believe otherwise, most (if not all) teams cheat in one way or another. Whether it's "sanctioned" by the owner/coach or not, every game has some form of cheating when those guys line up at the ball line.

Patriots were caught here..As you see NFL and NE are already trying to spin this ...and that spin may involve the truth...i.e "They caught them early into the game!!!".

That's the spin factor at work there. Of course, this is the Jets here so they'd probably beat them at any rate..but spin is spin.

I know when I turn on my NFL ticket and watch my Chiefs, I know there will be cheating. That's not so much my own cynical mind at work so much as the theory that in any sport...Winners>>>Losers. Sports is mainly about winning. Loyalty to our teams keeps us attached even if they're losing but media and advertising revenue wants winners first and foremost. They'll exploit the hell out of winners and when there is no more story to tell, they'll switch and talk smack about those winners years later for another story. The Pats are the latest example. I'm sure the same thing would happen years from now on the Colts if they took take over the top spot for the next few years. As soon as they become ready, the media will look to tear holes into the phenomenon..

While I don't particularly like the Patriots, I do acknowledge what they've done. I acknowledge that my jealousy for their SB rings causes me,... said jealousy. The last time the Chiefs were in the true spotlight was when the NFL was beginning. I have the same feelings towards the Patriots as I do with the Broncos..division rival or not. I have to face the facts that Elway and Terrell Davis lead the Broncos to a Ring in the past two decades while my team has endured playoff loss after playoff loss..."Marty, I'm looking at you..."....But I acknowledge the Broncos getting the ring in the same way as the Patriots getting the rings....in the same context that the Colts finally got their rings last year.

Everyone cheats, pessimistic or not...It's the one who gets caught which gets punished but the NFL really doesn't care as long as they don't get caught. ESPN and media outlets will continue making this into a bigger story for their own ratings...but we shouldn't be blindsided enough to realize that our own teams cheat in the games...or any chance they can if they know they won't get caught.

sickness

09-16-2007, 11:51 AM

Damn! Finally the 9ers did something right on defense today! And a tough thing to do at that! Making Isaac Bruce cough up the ball is never an easy thing to do.

Major props to Gore for showing up today and showing up today. I don't think anyone would have been upset if he took the week off to deal with his mother's death and funeral arrangements but you'd never know the guy had lost someone close if it hadn't been mentioned. He's got game!

Hopefully the offense will really gel and capitalize on this now.

As for their special teams, someone needs to get cut (that dude who muffed the punt) and a LOT of people need a good, old-fashioned Mike Ditka-style asswhipping for their poor performance today.

DarkJedi

09-16-2007, 01:23 PM

Gentlemen Death

09-16-2007, 07:08 PM

LOL...You are funny....My GF is a huge Niner fan and she pretty much said the same thing about having heart attacks and all....They are just barely skinning by here though with these wins...But hey, its a win right?

How about that Oakland game though!? That was screwed up what the Bronco's coach pulled. I mean, Janakowski makes a 52? yard field goal and at the last possible second, Broncos head coach calls a time out! That is fucked up!....I would be pretty pissed right now If I were a Raider fan....

I am kicking myself in the ass right now for picking the Chargers..:lol: .....But I hate the Patriots....Oh well....REDSKINS TOMORROW NIGHT!!!

RedKarma

09-16-2007, 08:43 PM

How about that Oakland game though!? That was screwed up what the Bronco's coach pulled. I mean, Janakowski makes a 52? yard field goal and at the last possible second, Broncos head coach calls a time out! That is fucked up!....I would be pretty pissed right now If I were a Raider fan....

That was messed up, they even changed the score to Oakland 23, Denver 20. I look back up at the TV and the score is 20 - 20 again, and they're making him do it over and of course it hits the poll.
:shakehead:

I thought I heard he got a 65 yard FG earlier, that must cheer up Janakowski after such a nasty ending.

TrekSucksHard

09-17-2007, 01:02 AM

Da Bears won but Grossman nearly threw the game away- GAAAH, when are they gonna get rid of him??? :mad:

neglet

09-17-2007, 05:47 AM

Well, the Lions are 2-0. They and Vikings were fighting over who should let the other win. "You take the ball." "No, you take the ball." "Here, YOU take the ball." The Lions, being polite hosts, finally let the Vikings give the game away.

Still, I can't remember the last time they even won two games in a row. And Mr. Neglet made the remark that Jon Kitna is the first Lions quarterback in a long time who actually looks like he wants to win. Now if they could only develop a leetle bit of a running game, the offense could be unstoppable.

As for the Pats, I think the "cheating" story is overblown. They still had to go out and play the games and execute their plan; I don't see how stealing signals would help them that much. Still, they were caught cheating against the Lions last year. How low is that?

DarkJedi

09-17-2007, 07:20 AM

LOL You think last nights game will shut up the media with their "Big News Story"? The Patriots, whom I am no large fan of, made a statement last night to those people trying to make this into a big story..

aka..."Shut the hell up, idiots, we're good enough without having to cheat. "

omicron

09-17-2007, 11:19 AM

While I am happy my Boys are 2-0, I am still worried about their apparent inability to get to the QB. Their DBs aren't that great, and they seem to be living on borrowed time. Against Wrecks Grossman/Tavarius Jackson that's ok, but I can see Brady or McNabb torching them.

Biggest surprise? Houston. 2-0 is shocking enough, but I read that their 34 points was a franchise record. That's sad.

The Tyrant Virus

09-17-2007, 02:16 PM

Steelers 2-0! YEAH!

I just can't wait till we play an actual good team. Our defense has only allowed 10 points so far. We held the Browns to 7 points, and then the Browns go score all over Cinci, granted it was a two-way scorefest. Does that mean we'll be able to run up the score on the Bengals when we play 'em. Hopefully, and maybe we'll even be able to shut down Palmer too.

I felt really, really bad for Buffalo yesterday. Their team is just falling apart with injuries. I was impressed that they managed to keep us to four field goals early on.

My picks this week were a bit better, but I'm still in last place :( My fantasy teams didn't do very well either. My WoW guild league I lost like 129-60, but of course the person I was facing off against happened to have Palmer and his ridiculous 6 TDs and 400 yards passing. I came in last place in my office pool with only 6 correct choices (7 if the Eagles win).

But at least the Steelers are doing well.

sickness

09-17-2007, 05:06 PM

Yeah, sicks...But what the hell is up with the play calling at the end of the game. I'm excited they've started the season 2-0 ...but are they purposely trying to give Niner fans heart attacks? I mean, wtf was up with them giving 2:00s to go at their home stadium when the lead was only 1 point? Running 3 plays up the middle like that instead of a safe screen pass and going for at least 1st down to seal the victory?

lol Not to mention calling a time out when their kicker was running out of the field..the kicker had only 10 seconds to line up for a 56 yard fieldgoal..and they had no timeouts yet. What happens? The Niners called a time out!!

My bro in law looked ready to keel over from either pain, frustration or anger at this point..

I'm excited that they've won the first two but their gameplan has been confusing..As conservative as the Steve Marucci days and we all know he wasn't loved for his conservative play calling even if he took them to winning seasons.

I'm a Chiefs fan first and foremost..but I root on the Niners..and even I have to admit they've made sweat the last two weeks.. Argh!
I agree 100% with you, DJ. They are starting to drive me nuts with the last-minute theatrics and leaving the door open for their opponent. What bugs me more, though, is that the intensity and talent they need to go to the playoffs is there but they never show it (minus Gore) except in the last 3-5 minutes of the game so far. Only 2 games, I know, so it's only anecdotal at this point but anecdotal has a tendency to turn into empirical trend in the NFL very quickly.

They're a talented team and it shows -- no way they would have beaten both the AZ and STL of 2007 with the 2006 team... in fact they may have lost both by a TD or more -- but this 2nd-gear offense isn't going to hold up much deeper into their schedule. Only 6 of 16 games are against division rivals and they've already played 2 of those games. By the end of 4 games, they will have played 3 of their division contests. Next week is @ Pittsburgh and 2 weeks down is vs. Seattle. Pittsburgh is still a legit force in the league even if they aren't the #1 or #2 team in the AFC. They can make or break teams on the bubble. Seattle is a team I'm still not certain the Niners have the psychological fortitude to beat on talent alone and not let the past bug them.

If they'd just play the first 55 minutes like they have been playing the last 5, I think they've got a legit shot at beating any team they play this year. If they keep up this 5 minute game crap, they're going to get walked on by Pittsburg, Seattle and New Orleans, at least, and probably the Giants as well. This kind of play won't fly against better teams during the regular season and will amount to a quick exit from the playoffs if they manage to get in which would probably be on the basis of winning their division.

Gentlemen Death

09-17-2007, 08:52 PM

:chewiedance: :D :D REDSKINS 2-0 BABY!!! YEAH!!!!:D :D :) :chewiedance:

neglet

09-18-2007, 06:27 AM

Gentlemen Death

09-18-2007, 10:03 AM

And after week two, our pick'em standing are as follows:

1 Droogie 24
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 23
3 Neglet's Picks 22
4 kah 21
5 Dr. Worm 20
6 Omicron's Brew Crew 19
7 Dr. DigIt 18
7 Rappites 18
9 Umbrella 15

A lot of people picked Eagles....Muwhahahaha.....No, but it was a close game...I thought the Redskins were going to fuck up as usual...But they did not and I am liking what Gibbs is doing so far with the running game....:cool:

omicron

09-18-2007, 01:02 PM

rappites

09-18-2007, 01:12 PM

DarkJedi

09-18-2007, 04:05 PM

McNabb says black QBs under more pressure
(http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3025308)

I guess I don't see it. I would like to think you're judged on your performance. You don't want to be treated so harshly? Win more games.

Or don't be the face of the franchise. Or play another position. Or don't play for a team with notoriously vicious fans. (They booed Santa Claus, from fuck's sake!!)

Honestly, I wouldn't care what sex/race/creed my QB was, as long as he/she/it got my favorite team to the superbowl.

I think what he should have said...was "Shitty Quarterbacks are under more pressure...and I'm a shitty QB now"..

That would have been better and much more accurate but then someone would have taken the truth serum back from him afterwards.

What a hack. My sister could throw better then he could last night.

I dropped his ass off my fantasy this morning. Overpaid Git.

DarkJedi

09-18-2007, 04:06 PM

And oh yeah...Droogie, I'm coming for your ass in the Pick Em League...though I have to watch my own ass with Negs right there.

DarkJedi

09-18-2007, 04:14 PM

I agree 100% with you, DJ. They are starting to drive me nuts with the last-minute theatrics and leaving the door open for their opponent. What bugs me more, though, is that the intensity and talent they need to go to the playoffs is there but they never show it (minus Gore) except in the last 3-5 minutes of the game so far. Only 2 games, I know, so it's only anecdotal at this point but anecdotal has a tendency to turn into empirical trend in the NFL very quickly.

They're a talented team and it shows -- no way they would have beaten both the AZ and STL of 2007 with the 2006 team... in fact they may have lost both by a TD or more -- but this 2nd-gear offense isn't going to hold up much deeper into their schedule. Only 6 of 16 games are against division rivals and they've already played 2 of those games. By the end of 4 games, they will have played 3 of their division contests. Next week is @ Pittsburgh and 2 weeks down is vs. Seattle. Pittsburgh is still a legit force in the league even if they aren't the #1 or #2 team in the AFC. They can make or break teams on the bubble. Seattle is a team I'm still not certain the Niners have the psychological fortitude to beat on talent alone and not let the past bug them.

If they'd just play the first 55 minutes like they have been playing the last 5, I think they've got a legit shot at beating any team they play this year. If they keep up this 5 minute game crap, they're going to get walked on by Pittsburg, Seattle and New Orleans, at least, and probably the Giants as well. This kind of play won't fly against better teams during the regular season and will amount to a quick exit from the playoffs if they manage to get in which would probably be on the basis of winning their division.

Man, that's why I'm getting frustrated at the Niners right now. They have so much bloody potential with Alex Smith whose already proven himself to be capable...

I think the new Offensive coordinator is being a little too gunshy because they have no true #1 WR right now..nobody that can get seperation. That doesn't mean ignore Battle though because from what I've seen of Battle, he's one of my favorite players on the team. The man is a former QB himself, he blocks, he catches nearly everyone thrown his way...He's a team player who does what it takes. If Battle can't get enough seperation like a Moss or TO..or any other true #1 WR, then get some plays which are designed to his strengths in there..Rather then having him become a 50 yard a game player as he's been the last two games.

That's a worrisome facet about the first two games. It won't take defensive coaches long to realize if they cancel out Gore and Battle, they'll stop the Niners.

Fact: Through two games, Alex Smith doesn't have ONE passing TD. Not one. This type of one dimensional plan will have future defensive coordinators ripping a new one into them.

Some more aggressive play calling is needed and Nolan and Co. need to get to it.

Not the current "wait till the last moment" bs which has Niner fans reeling in frustration & anger.

Alex Smith has proven already he's capable of putting the team on his shoulders and marching down the field in pressure situations. It's time the coaches let him do that same thing WITHOUT the pressure...i.e start letting him take control earlier in the game..not the damn 2 minute drill time.

lol You can hear my frustration..

They have so much bloody potential but this conversative game calling is driving me up the wall.

RedKarma

09-18-2007, 08:31 PM

Mr. Neglet made the remark that Jon Kitna is the first Lions quarterback in a long time who actually looks like he wants to win.

Yeah I like Kitna, he's good.

Actually Omi, I think Dallas would do OK next to Philly. Whatever McNabb had, it's gone. As for what Dallas can do D-wise, I haven't seen them play yet this year to know. But hey, a turnover is a turnover, screw the QB, get the BALL.

I'm happy for Houston, their fans were so bummed out last year. I'd rather see a close game any day than a blow out - home teams excepted, of course.

DarkJedi

09-18-2007, 10:00 PM

lol What was that joke Tony K said on Monday Night Football?

"The Niners are 2-0, the Cowboys are 2-0, the Lions are 2-0 and OJ Simpson is in Jail! Hey look, we're back in the mid 90s everyone!"

TrekSucksHard

09-19-2007, 05:58 AM

McNabb says black QBs under more pressure
(http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3025308)

I guess I don't see it. I would like to think you're judged on your performance. You don't want to be treated so harshly? Win more games.

Or don't be the face of the franchise. Or play another position. Or don't play for a team with notoriously vicious fans. (They booed Santa Claus, from fuck's sake!!)

Honestly, I wouldn't care what sex/race/creed my QB was, as long as he/she/it got my favorite team to the superbowl.
McNabb is full of horsedung- he makes excuses for his sucky performance by playing the stupid race card- my most hated QB in the League starts with "Gross" and ends with "man" and he isn't black- he's white!

If da Bears aren't gonna change QBs soon I think I'll ask my name to be changed to GrossmanSucksHard... :mad:

Gentlemen Death

09-19-2007, 06:28 PM

REDSKINS!!! YEA!!!! :D :lol: :Mwahaha:

DarkJedi

09-20-2007, 03:00 PM

:lol:

Two more black QBS have chimed in after McNabb had his fit to the media this week..Vince Young's comment had me laughing..

Jason Campbell: Early in my career in college, I felt like people looked at me differently and expected a lot more," said Campbell, the Washington Redskins' starter since November. "I felt I had to do a little extra. At that point, I did feel that way. I don't feel that way now in the NFL."

"That's his opinion, and as an African-American quarterback, I have to support other African-American quarterbacks," Campbell said. "But it's something I can't get caught up in. I look at all quarterbacks as the same. I support every guy who's playing the position.

"It's the hardest position to play in professional sports, and you get graded differently than any other position on the field. Nine times out of 10 the ball is in your hands, so everybody is watching you. Since you're in the spotlight, the mistakes get recognized. You need thick skin and a short memory."

Vince Young: "I really feel like myself, black or white quarterbacks, we all go through something because that is the life of a quarterback,'' Young said Wednesday, according to the Nashville Tennessean. "You have to be able to handle all the pressure and you have to be able to handle the losses and you have to be able to handle the media saying this about you.

"If you can't handle it, then you have to get off that position and go play something else."

Lmao! Oh man, Young just sent a "zingggg" your way, Donovan. :D

Gentlemen Death

09-20-2007, 04:16 PM

DarkJedi

09-20-2007, 05:00 PM

They're not crying over it, GD...McNabb is...lol..Young was telling him to get over playing lousy and blaming it on the race card.

Gentlemen Death

09-20-2007, 05:11 PM

They're not crying over it, GD...McNabb is...lol..Young was telling him to get over playing lousy and blaming it on the race card.

Yeah, I know....Those comments were directed to McNabb!

RedKarma

09-20-2007, 07:37 PM

WEEK 3

Sunday, September 23
STL @ TB
SF @ PIT
IND @ HOU
ARI @ BAL
MIN @ KC
SD @ GB
DET @ PHI
BUF @ NE
MIA @ NYJ
CLE @ OAK
JAC @ DEN
CIN @ SEA
CAR @ ATL
NYG @ WAS
DAL @ CHI

Monday, September 24
TEN @ NO

RedKarma

09-21-2007, 03:02 AM

Apparently, Fox Sports has turned me into Pavlov's dog this season.

I would hear that "doo doo dah, doo doo ding" noise and no matter where I was in the house I would automatically look at the TV because that meant they were going to show the scores for all the games.

Now, Fox shows the scores constantly in the upper right hand corner of the screen.
But they still use the "doo doo dah, doo doo ding" to promote upcoming games, or play Fantasy Football, or whatever else they want to hype.

Bastards. :mad:

DarkJedi

09-21-2007, 03:25 AM

LOL Red! Ear Muffs time..or mute Fox...:)

I assume we're talking about your local Fox Sports (Region) channel here. I know they play that ding quite a lot.

Another good channel is Epsn News..they have the constant updates but they don't have a constant theme sound. Then again, you'll have to hear their talking heads about every single sport going on..

I've never kept it on very long on the NFL channel itself..(outside of my Ticket channels)..They have a ticker going at the bottom, right? Wonder what sound effects they have going on..

The Tyrant Virus

09-23-2007, 02:55 PM

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!! Steelers 3-0! Went to the game today, my first time going to a Steeler game ever, and it was awesome. Whoooo!!!

Gentlemen Death

09-23-2007, 04:09 PM

Was anyone watching the Seattle and Cincinatti game?....Well, Seattle won which should not have happened...

Hasselback threw the ball (This is what gave Seattle the advantage, which in case Cincinatti would have won) it was daflected by a Cincinatti player, flew in the air, Hasselback caught it, got tackeld and the ball came out...What does that sound like.??? A fumball!! But the refs did not rule it as a fumball.....That call is going to be talked about for the next week.....If you get a chance to watch it please come in hear and someone please explain to me HOW THAT WAS NOT a fumball!!!!:mad:

TrekSucksHard

09-23-2007, 08:04 PM

KILL REX GROSSMAN!!! :mad: :Angry:

Gentlemen Death

09-23-2007, 08:46 PM

Yeah....that was a crazy game....Do not know quite what else to say about it....You said it all!

omicron

09-24-2007, 12:35 PM

GO COWBOYS!!

I wish I was doing as well in FFB. I am 1-8 so far in 3 leagues.

The Tyrant Virus

09-24-2007, 02:28 PM

I wish I was doing as well in FFB. I am 1-8 so far in 3 leagues.

So am I. Well, as long as Drew Brees doesn't do well tonight. I could end up 0-9 if Drew Brees gets my opponent 30 points.

DarkJedi

09-24-2007, 02:59 PM

I'm just keeping up my smacktalk comment from last week. I wrote "Damn you, McNabb" for being a failure and causing my loss in Fantasy..

He's on the "can't cut list" so I just delegated him down to the Bench until I can.

Then, yesterday, he does that?

I should change "Damn you, McNabb" to "Fuck off, McNabb"...At least, I got 3 TDs from Brian Westbrook and I won the week in Fantasy..I still won't be starting the bastard.

In fact, I probably have too many QBS and RBs on my roster. Most of my bench consist of them.

Oh and I got totally nailed yesterday on our Fantasy Pick Em League...Very bad day. There goes my second place standings. Bring on next week.

RedKarma

09-25-2007, 03:18 AM

I heard a truly diabolical rumor first thing yesterday morning.

A Daily Herald sports reporter was on the early AM news on ABC said he thought Grossman's contract, due to expire at the end of the season, would NOT be renewed in favor of picking up a new, experienced QB....Donovan McNabb.

Now before Trek throws himself out a window, personally, I think it is just that, a rumor.

Chicago teams historically don't shell out for big name guys. We like to pick them up BEFORE they get big, and get them for cheap - at least at first.

Personally, I'm more worried about the 4 pro bowlers that got injured in the last one. I can't worry about stuff that hasn't or may not happen at all, at least in the NFL.

neglet

09-25-2007, 07:05 AM

And after 3 weeks, Droogie is opening up quite a lead:

1 Droogie 35
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 31
3 Neglet's Picks 30
4 kah 29
5 Dr. Worm 28
6 Dr. DigIt 27
6 Omicron's Brew Crew 27
8 Rappites 25
8 Umbrella 25

kah

09-25-2007, 07:49 AM

Dammit.

That Bears game was ridiculous. I was almost ashamed to watch. It was like staring at the corpses scattered around a train wreck and not checking to see if anyone's still alive.

RedKarma

09-25-2007, 06:54 PM

MSN claims Rex is out for this Sunday, and Brian Griese in.

'Bout time!

TrekSucksHard

09-25-2007, 10:37 PM

MSN claims Rex is out for this Sunday, and Brian Griese in.

'Bout time!

Thank the Gods for that- if Lovie utters, "Wrecks is our QB" one more time I'm gonna personally go over to Chicago and kill him too! :mad:

What they ought to do with Wrecks Gross-man is trade him to the Falcons now while he is still worth something (I dunno, maybe a 7th round draft pick) rather than releasing him at the end of the season for nothing since his contract is expiring anyway.

Can anyone think of nicknames for Wrecks?

Wrecks Grossman
Rex Gross-man
Hex Grossman
Too Gross, man

The Tyrant Virus

09-26-2007, 06:01 AM

I don't know if the Falcons would even want him. They picked up Byron Leftwich and their current QB apparently isn't doing too horribly.

neglet

09-26-2007, 06:07 AM

Isn't their current quarterback Joey Harrington? He played for the Lions, so he's cursed now.

kah

09-26-2007, 07:27 AM

Joey's actually done pretty well since he left the Lions. (Of course :rolleyes:)

I saw the news about Griese starting last night on SportsCenter. I hope I get to see their game this weekend.

sickness

09-26-2007, 10:12 AM

By the way, Scott Ferrall broke the story on Sirius (Howard 101) like 16 hours before anyone else.

TrekSucksHard

09-26-2007, 10:09 PM

I don't know if the Falcons would even want him. They picked up Byron Leftwich and their current QB apparently isn't doing too horribly.

The Falcons are 0-3 and going nowhere but it doesn't just have to be the Falcons- other teams are hurting at the QB position (Delhomme seems to be nursing an injury at Carolina, Green is ineffective in Miami and the season is still young so that means plenty of opportunities to trade that ****).

And recent news reports said that Wrecks claimed he was "surprised" when the news was finally relayed to him (like he didn't know he was playing terribly?). What a moron! Get lost, Wrecks! :upyours:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3037222

neglet

09-27-2007, 07:46 AM

I'll always love Brian Griese, after he led Michigan to the national title in 1997. I'd like to see him play well, but still lose to Detroit, because I'm just a hopeless fan when it comes to the Lions. And because it's just like them to lay a turd like the game against the Eagles and then beat a playoff team the next game. (Plus, da Bears' defense is hampered by injury and the Lions will get their passing yards.)

RedKarma

09-28-2007, 02:01 AM

Week 4

Sunday, September 30
BAL @ CLE
STL @ DAL
CHI @ DET
GB @ MIN
OAK @ MIA
HOU @ ATL
NYJ @ BUF
PIT @ ARI
SEA @ SF
TB @ CAR
KC @ SD
DEN @ IND
PHI @ NYG

Monday, October 01
NE @ CIN

This week I'm actually not looking forward to any of these games, just nothing is sparking my interest.

It's a shame because starting next week I'll have a houseguest :puke: I won't be able to post most of the time and pretty much be in a bad mood for two weeks.

Gentlemen Death

09-30-2007, 05:03 PM

I am doing horrible this week with my picks....:(

DarkJedi

09-30-2007, 05:32 PM

Yes, I already know Negs beat me in Fantasy judging by the matchup.

Finally, my Chiefs fought and won a victory they deserved..and it was funny listening to the Chargers fans chanting "Marty...Marty...Marty..." at the end of the game. Norv Turner is a better assistant coach. He should have stayed with the Niners and I'm sure the Niners agree after what their new OC is doing...What a git.

The Tyrant Virus

09-30-2007, 07:21 PM

Boo, Steelers 3-1. :(

Yeah, I'm pretty sure my picks this week have been pretty horrid.

TrekSucksHard

09-30-2007, 09:45 PM

Jesus- Griese plays well for 3 quarters then does his best Wrecks Grossman imitation at the 4th... sigh. The Superbowl runner-up curse is alive and well, the Bears can't do anything right. :Goodbye:

BRING IN ORTON!

neglet

10-01-2007, 10:49 AM

I think we all sucked (<50%) in picks this week, but honestly--Arizona over Pittsburgh? The Chiefs over San Diego? Cleveland over Baltimore?

This is a weird season already. Out of last year's playoff teams, only New England, Indy, Dallas, and Seattle are above .500. Instead we've got Green Bay undefeated, and Detroit and Tampa Bay at 3-1.

And I told you Detroit would beat Chicago this week. But next week they'll probably lose because they're at the Redskins and they haven't won there in something like 20 years.

Gentlemen Death

10-01-2007, 10:51 AM

neglet

10-01-2007, 10:59 AM

Well, if the Lions are still above .500 at the halfway point of the season, I'll go into shock.

Still, with that crazy offense it seems anything is possible this year.

Gentlemen Death

10-01-2007, 11:05 AM

Well, if the Lions are still above .500 at the halfway point of the season, I'll go into shock.

Still, with that crazy offense it seems anything is possible this year.

Yes. The season is quite....Interesting this year so far. It is still early though, so much can still happen!

The Tyrant Virus

10-01-2007, 12:18 PM

I contend that the Cardinals had an unfair advantage against us this week. Whisenhunt, being our old offensive coordinator, knew our offense too well and probably our defense as well. Plus, no Hines Ward and Polamalu out a good bit of the game did not help matters. I know, I know...excuses excuses. :p

On the bright side, Ben looked really great moving the ball down the field for the touchdown late in the game. And Santonio Holmes played extremely well in Ward's place.

And holy shit, I like the Eagles, but they got very much OWNED last night, especially the offensive line. How many times did McNabb get sacked? 10? 11? The defense was literally wallking all over the o-line.

DarkJedi

10-01-2007, 10:18 PM

Hehe, I'm glad I didn't start McNabb again after his wonderful performance the week before..I just knew it was a fluke against the Lions. It was 12 sacks, TV..Ties a team record.

Not sure who to blame on that one..McNabb for not getting away in time or the Offensive Line for not giving him any time.

My West division sucks.....or is competitive (however you want to look at it).

My Chiefs 2-2
Denver Broncos (Booooooo!) 2-2
Oakland Raiders (Boo! Boo!) 2-2
Chargers without Marty (1-3)

fastcar

10-02-2007, 09:51 AM

3-1 boo hiss. It sucked losing to "Pittsburgh West" but hey, can't complain about our division. Cleveland pulled a huge rabbit out of their ass and helped us. I'd say our chances of getting into the playoffs just went up tremedously, regardless of how we finish the rest of the schedule.

At least you only have to beat the Patriots once.......in the playoffs.

neglet

10-03-2007, 05:18 AM

And after four weeks, Pick'em standings are as follows:

1 Droogie 43
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 39
3 Neglet's Picks 38
4 kah 36
5 Omicron's Brew Crew 34
5 Dr. DigIt 34
7 Dr. Worm 33
8 Umbrella 32
9 Rappites 31

The Tyrant Virus

10-03-2007, 06:10 AM

Yay, not in last place anymore.

Gentlemen Death

10-07-2007, 05:52 PM

:( Another bad week for me....:(

fastcar

10-08-2007, 07:03 AM

I don't think there should be any question of who should have won Superbowl XL after Sunday's decimation of Seattle.

The Tyrant Virus

10-08-2007, 07:56 AM

Especially with our two top receivers and two important defensive players out.

Gentlemen Death

10-08-2007, 12:58 PM

That was a bad game...I was actually hoping that Seattle was going to win....Oh, well. My team, REDSKINS, won the Lions and that is all that matters right now!! :D :popcorn:

rappites

10-08-2007, 01:53 PM

:Tongue: Yay, not in last place anymore.

The Tyrant Virus

10-08-2007, 02:17 PM

:Tongue:

Aw, tied for last again. :Angry: :Tongue:

DarkJedi

10-08-2007, 05:10 PM

I nearly caught you Droogie!

But I had an utterly disgusting performance against Droogie on the other Fantasy this week...22 points? :lol:

neglet

10-09-2007, 05:42 AM

Standings after week 5:

1 Droogie 52
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 50
3 Neglet's Picks 48
4 kah 46
5 Omicron's Brew Crew 44
6 Dr. Worm 42
7 Dr. DigIt 40
8 Rappites 39
8 Umbrella 39

Picked up a game on Droogie, and I'm breathing down DJ's neck.

Dallas -- New England looks like the premiere matchup this week.

omicron

10-09-2007, 07:09 AM

My Cowboys had NO business winning that game last night, but I will take it.

They play like that next week, and NE will beat them by 40.

DarkJedi

10-09-2007, 03:28 PM

THAT game was effing nuts, Omi. My older sis the Boys fanatic was close to heart attack mode with the craziness of the last 5 minutes of the game. I couldn't stop laughing because it was such a great game in the end.

:D

SogTpIbsDGo

Gentlemen Death

10-09-2007, 06:08 PM

That pulling a timeout before a kick is such BULLSHIT!! That is not right and they need to change those rules!! That is like cheating!!:mad:

fastcar

10-10-2007, 05:56 AM

Nothing you can do with that one. I think it's unfair that you are allowed to continually spike the ball to run out the clock at the end.... You should be made to play it to completion. Still, what can you do?

omicron

10-10-2007, 07:55 AM

Carolina signs Vinny Testeverde (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3056695)

What is he, 110 yrs old??? :lol:

sickness

10-10-2007, 10:06 AM

Seriously? Someone actually signed him? Hasn't he been not playing long enough to get into the HOF? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Vinny in the HOF!!! I kill me!!!

The Tyrant Virus

10-15-2007, 01:21 PM

Man, did I do a great job on my picks this week or what. :mad:

sickness

10-15-2007, 01:54 PM

I'm feeling good. The Niners didn't lose yesterday. But they didn't play, either.

neglet

10-16-2007, 06:12 AM

After 6 weeks:

1 Droogie 60
2 Neglet's Picks 56
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 56
4 kah 55
5 Omicron's Brew Crew 53
6 Dr. DigIt 49
6 Dr. Worm 49
8 Rappites 47
9 Umbrella 44

rappites

10-16-2007, 11:20 AM

Yeah!!! I'm not last.

Stuck in the middle of the worm and umbrella.

Gentlemen Death

10-16-2007, 11:46 AM

This is for the Top 3 people: YOU ALL SMELL LIKE BLUE CHEESE!! :Mwahaha: :puke:

DarkJedi

10-17-2007, 01:03 AM

lol Right back at you!

I had a horrible pick 'em week. Negs has caught me and now we both need to catch Droogie The Fantasy Sports God.

Btw, I just thought about this. I know we don't talk the games themselves in here very often but I figured someone would bring up the Patriots-Cowboys game. Omi, did you check it out? My sister really got ticked off at the constant flags in the first half.

neglet

10-17-2007, 05:52 AM

I watched part of the Pats/Cowboys game, but with Tom Brady playing like he came down from Mt. Olympus, it seemed a foregone conclusion.

Honestly, all the best action last weekend was watching Saturday night college football, with the LSU and Cal losses. Even Mr. Neglet refused to turn off the LSU-Kentucky game, and he's not rabid about football like I am.

omicron

10-17-2007, 07:27 AM

Of course I watched the game. I was screwing around playing a game on my laptop, so I was only half watching. I remember seeing them go up 28-24 in the 3rd, and then I looked up and it was 41-28. Apparently I wasn't paying as close attention as I thought. :headscratch:

Do I think the Boys could have beaten the Pats? Sure, if they played a perfect game. They didn't and for some reason the coach decided to stop the run (Like that's the Pat's strength) instead of concentrating on the pass. Then again, you have to admit that Moss/Stallworth/Welker can and will kill you. They did get to Brady more than he's been hit this season, and that's good.

All in all, a loss, but not a back breaker. Of course, if they go and drop the next 3 games, then there might be a suicide watch needed.

I watched the LSU/UK game also. I love watching the top teams lose. Now if only my Buckeyes can avoid the Upset bug that's going around the NCAA.

RedKarma

10-22-2007, 06:51 AM

Woah, am I glad I didn't chuck the last quarter of the Bears game to the wind and watch cartoons instead.

The 12:00 games were something of a disappointment though, I means Pats vs Miami? I didn't even bother! After Detroit started to stomp some heads, I just went shopping. I think it's the first time I left the house on a Sunday after 12:00 since sometime in mid-August. Quite a few grudge matches this past week, very nice, but I didn't get to see most of them, just the highlights. *sigh* Must find decent sports bar with imported beers!

Week 8
IND @ CAR
DET @ CHI
PIT @ CIN
PHI @ MIN
NYG @ MIA
OAK @ TEN
CLE @ STL
BUF @ NYJ
JAC @ TB
HOU @ SD
NO @ SF
WAS @ NE

Monday
GB @ DEN

The Tyrant Virus

10-22-2007, 07:47 AM

Man what a disappointing end to the Steelers/Broncos game last night. I can't completely fault our defense or offense. There were a couple of big mistakes made early by Ben, but he came back and got us the points we needed when we really needed them. The defense should never have let them get into field goal range. :mad:

sickness

10-22-2007, 09:29 AM

I couldn't look forward to this weekend at all as far as football goes. How can you when the consensus among you and your fellow fans is "well, we're about to drop to 2-4"?

neglet

10-22-2007, 11:35 AM

And of course, because I was gone from 1 pm to 4:30 at a gig, the Lions played well and I didn't see any of it.

Gentlemen Death

10-22-2007, 01:06 PM

Redskins win again!! 4-2....Maybe...Just maybe...This year is the year....:D

omicron

10-22-2007, 02:20 PM

they'll have to get by my 6-1 Cowboys first, baby!

Gentlemen Death

10-22-2007, 03:14 PM

they'll have to get by my 6-1 Cowboys first, baby!

OH!! A Cowboy's fan you are, huh?....I officially do not like you!:D

DarkJedi

10-22-2007, 03:43 PM

Nothing wrong with them Cowboys, GD. Even if I had them rammed down my throat for 29 years by my father and sister, I don't hate them anymore. They are not the same team of druggies and lawbreakers that they used to be...At least no more then most other NFL players that don't get caught. Romo is easy to root for too..He's a big kid. :D

I still can't believe the Chiefs....are...not...sucking.

No matter how insecure I was with my Fantasy team names, I was definitely sure we would end up in last place without Trent Green, Dante Hall and some key linemen.

Of course, we could end up choking but as much as I hate Herman Edward's offensive play calls, I do credit him with making our defense better.

kah

10-23-2007, 07:56 AM

Don't feel bad, Negs. At least you didn't have to see them almost blow it in the last quarter.

neglet

10-23-2007, 09:26 AM

Still, whenever they play, even if they're down by three touchdowns with 5 minutes left, I feel compelled to watch. It might be the sick masochism that comes to be part of every Lions fan, or it might be the new HDTV, but I can't help myself. So I'm bummed I missed a win (because last year you know they would have blown it in the last quarter).

Anyway, here's the updated Pick-'Em Standings:

1 Droogie 72
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 68
3 Neglet's Picks 67
4 kah 64
5 Omicron's Brew Crew 61
6 Dr. DigIt 59
6 Dr. Worm 59
8 Rappites 58
9 Umbrella 51

Gentlemen Death

10-23-2007, 01:07 PM

I am gettin' there.....All in time....:D

neglet

10-29-2007, 01:39 PM

Hahahahahaha. I'm the only one who picked Detroit to win. See, since you don't expect them to win the game, they do. Plus, I had a concert so I couldn't see any of the game, so I knew they would play well.

Watch out, in a couple of weeks when they're playing the Rams and I can watch the game, they'll totally suck. In the meantime, they have the fourth best record in the NFC (big whoop) and are guaranteed a winning record at the halfway point. I think that means I'm going into shock. Isn't that what I said earlier?

Gentlemen Death

10-29-2007, 02:29 PM

I do another Football Pool game at work and I also, was th only one to pick the Lions...I lost the pool already but atleast I got to shove that in their face!

The Tyrant Virus

10-29-2007, 02:54 PM

I'm doing almost as bad on my work pool as I am on our picks here. I did pick the Lions to win this week in that pool, and am actually having a fairly decent week, too bad a good number of people are having an even better week. I just can't win. :headscratch:

neglet

10-30-2007, 05:13 AM

Standings after week 8:

1 Droogie 82
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 78
3 Neglet's Picks 77
4 kah 74
5 Dr. Worm 71
6 Dr. DigIt 67
6 Omicron's Brew Crew 67
8 Rappites 65
9 Umbrella 59

And I'm now atop the Cinescape Fantasy League, despite my lack of gaudy points totals. It really helps to plug in backups during bye weeks.

The Tyrant Virus

10-30-2007, 07:35 AM

I finally won a game! Yay!

omicron

10-30-2007, 07:59 AM

Sad part is that one one of my other league's website, they also have a pick 'em game, and I am 74-42 on there. So if I would just copy my picks from that page to Yahoo, I'd be in fourth place! :headscratch:

Gentlemen Death

10-30-2007, 11:53 AM

Damn...Omi and I have been tied for a couple of weeks now...You need to start picking bad ones now, buddy!

The Tyrant Virus

10-30-2007, 01:18 PM

If anyone needs help losing, let me know and I'll PM you my picks for the week. :p

RedKarma

11-01-2007, 01:52 PM

:lol:

I apologize if any of these are wrong. Does anyone other than me think it's just shocking some teams are still winless at this point?

Season Standings (AKA "The Story So Far")

AFC
East
Patriots W= 8 L=0
Bills W= 3 L=4
Jets W= 1 L=7
Dolphins W= 0 L=8

North
Steelers W= 5 L= 2
Browns W= 4 L= 3
Ravens W= 4 L= 3
Bengals W= 2 L= 5

South
Colts W= 7 L= 0
Titans W= 5 L= 2
Jaguars W= 5 L= 2
Texans W= 3 L= 5

West
Chiefs W= 4 L= 3
Chargers W= 4 L= 3
Broncos W= 3 L= 4
Raiders W= 2 L= 5

NFC
East
Cowboys W= 6 L= 1
Giants W= 6 L= 2
Redskins W= 4 L= 3
Eagles W= 3 L= 4

North
Packers W= 6 L= 1
Lions W= 5 L= 2
Bears W= 3 L= 5
Vikings W= 2 L= 5

South
Panthers W= 4 L= 3
Bucs W= 4 L= 4
Saints W= 3 L= 4
Falcons W= 1 L= 6

West
Seahawks W= 4 L= 3
Cardinals W= 3 L= 4
49ers W= 2 L= 5
Rams W= 0 L= 8

Gentlemen Death

11-01-2007, 02:07 PM

I would hate to be a Rams fan right now....:goodbye:

RedKarma

11-01-2007, 02:14 PM

I would hate to be a Rams fan right now....:goodbye:

Yeah, I was primarily speaking of the Rams. Miami is well, Miami but dang, I thought the Rams had more in them than that.

RedKarma

11-04-2007, 09:38 PM

WHAT THE FUCK!?!!

CBS should DIE.

I swear, they did not show the last 2 minutes of the Colts/Pats game. I know NE had the ball, I know there was less than 3 mintues left and I swear they did NOT show the end of the game.

My husband was watching too, and said he didn't see the 2:00 warning.

Why do I have to go to NFL.com to find out the score? Why does CBS suck more than my in-laws?

Off to rant somewhere else at this point but DAMN YOU CBS AND YOUR 60 Minutes - when did you become Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless anyway.

Like America give a rat about 60 Minutes.

omicron

11-05-2007, 01:56 AM

wow what a day. Colts/pats, Adrian Peterson runs for a NFL296 yrds record and Cromartie has a 109yd missed FG return for a TD. Oh, and my Cowboys kicked the eagles asses. :)

neglet

11-05-2007, 12:17 PM

The Lions beat the Broncos 44-7. Seeing 340-pound Shaun Rogers run for a 66-yard interception return was something else:

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He probably should've been called for a face mask at the end, but that run was too fun to spoil.

And the Lions are 4 games above .500 at the halfway mark. Bring me my fainting couch.

RedKarma

11-05-2007, 02:37 PM

It's good to see Detroit doing well. I like Kitna too, he's pretty good. I'm also glad the Bears don't have to play them again this season - they're gonna have their hands full with a Monday night game :( .

kah

11-05-2007, 05:11 PM

The whole North division is a shocker this year. WTF?

The Tyrant Virus

11-05-2007, 06:33 PM

Crud, I forgot to make this week's picks. I really can't stand the Patriots and want to see them lose big time. Hopefully my Steelers can crush them and shut everyone up in a couple weeks.

rappites

11-06-2007, 06:07 AM

I thought I had made my picks last week. But, I guess I was wrong. Damn.

The Tyrant Virus

11-06-2007, 07:20 AM

38-7.

I think we just might have a chance against the Patriots.

neglet

11-06-2007, 08:45 AM

Ooo, Droogie stumbled this week and the top 3 are within a couple points of each other.

1 Droogie 90
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 89
3 Neglet's Picks 88
4 Dr. Worm 81
4 kah 81
6 Dr. DigIt 76
6 Omicron's Brew Crew 76
8 Rappites 65
9 Umbrella 59

RedKarma

11-06-2007, 11:40 AM

38-7.

What a spanking.

fastcar

11-07-2007, 09:35 AM

Just remember TV. As much as I love them, it was still just the Ravens. Karmic retribution for last year. That's it.

Ike Taylor still needs to come up with those interceptions and Willie needs to learn that he can't go up the middle unless there is a hole the size of the Fort Pitt Tunnels for him to use. He's better at running the end and using his speed and blockers to keep the lanes open. Davenport is your bruiser.

Although on the whole. Ben had a phenomenal game. 5 TD passes. Constantly in motion shaking off the sack at every given turn and as Billy Hillgrove said, Silverback Security was on the job. Harrison's first tackle looked like the body slam he put on that Cleveland fan awhile back.

fastcar

11-12-2007, 06:12 AM

Holy Come From Behind, Batman! Man, who would have thought the Brownies would be formidable? But, hey, I will give credit where credit is due. Roethlisberger had another amazing game throwing his body in harms way for two important plays that suceeded in a 30yd run for a TD and a 10yrd run completing a 3rd down conversion that set up Heath Miller for another touchdown.

Plus, both coaches made errors in judgement challenging plays that were pretty clear cut. However, Romeo Crennel added insult to injury by calling time out to decide whether or not to challenge Miller's TD catch resulting in a loss of a challenge and another time out.

IMO Cleveland should have at least been able to tie the game if Crennel had not called the first timeout and just challenged the call to start. An additional timeout in the pocket would have given the Browns an opportunity to safely move the chains further into Steeler territory to allow Dawson a more comfortable attempt at a FG to send the game into overtime.

But....that is why they are the Browns and we are alone at the top of the AFC North looking at a three game stretch against teams who should prove no significant threat.

Jets (1-8)
Dolphins (0-9) looking to be the Anti 73 Dolphins
Bengals (3-6)

Then it's on to New England in Foxboro which I hope will give the Pats their first loss of the season. The second will hopefully be in Pittsburgh during the playoffs.

Gentlemen Death

11-12-2007, 12:50 PM

This week was BY FAR, the WORST week I have had on the football pool...:( 5/14!!! WTF!!....

fastcar

11-13-2007, 11:29 AM

I know. I had only 6. My worst week yet. This does not bode well for my end of season chances.

DarkJedi

11-14-2007, 01:37 AM

Same here, GD and Speedster.

It figures too..The week that Droogie stumbles, I stumble too...

Argh!

DarkJedi

11-14-2007, 01:47 AM

Btw...Omi, I honestly didn't know Clark and Alexander wasn't playing last weekend. Thankfully, Westbrook saved my ass against you but they announced Clark's concussion the night before (supposedly) and I never heard about it until Sunday afternoon. Same deal for Alexander. I don't buy that he was really injured..Just think they did that because he was struggling.

It was certainly going through my head Monday night because your Burleson was playing while Alexander was sitting out.

Still, Westbrook did save my ass for the matchup.

McNabb supposedly threw 4 TDs too and I had him on the bench. He's staying on the bench or I'm trading him to someone who wants him..This week, he's going up against Miami and I'm STILL not starting him. I don't trust McNabb..He's burned me too often.

Irony..Derek Anderson was picked up by accident and McNabb was my starting pick-up at the start of the season..Now? Derek Anderson starts while McNabb can truly kiss my ass no matter how good he does any given week.

TrekSucksHard

11-14-2007, 10:25 AM

Oh God- why is GROSS-MAn back in the lineup again??? :eek:

If Griese is injured then why not use Kyle Orton for chrissakess?!?!?! :Angry:

neglet

11-14-2007, 11:35 AM

I knew I should've picked Detroit to lose. Going in you would've thought it was an easy win, so of course they lost. Now we've got the Giants and Packers at home five days apart, so we'll see whether they can suck it up.

And after two consecutive good weeks (compared to the rest of you) I am tied with DJ and breathing down Droogie's neck. And even Peyton's six interceptions couldn't weigh down my fantasy win streak. Here are current pick 'em rankings:

1 Droogie 97
2 Neglet's Picks 96
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 96
4 Dr. Worm 88
4 kah 88
6 Omicron's Brew Crew 84
7 Dr. DigIt 82
8 Rappites 72
9 Umbrella 64

RedKarma

11-15-2007, 12:03 PM

Yes, a very upsetting week in the NFL. There were only 2 games I would have bet my life on winning - the rest were all puke matches or upsets.

I agree with fastcar, both CLE & PITT's coached made errors challenging. I had to wonder what they were thinking.

NFL Headlines from Not So Distant Future

Grossman & Griese - Starter material? Where? WHERE?!?!

Michael Vick: "Define 'monster'."

Hot Holiday Gifts: The Tom Brady Clone

Gentlemen Death

11-18-2007, 09:24 PM

Damn... I did pretty good this week. My best week yet!...It sucks though....Redskins lost :(

fastcar

11-19-2007, 09:06 AM

me too. 14 so far. Nobody in the office pool picked the Jets so my only real loss was in not picking Arizona.

But OMFG what a horrible game against the Jets. They really looked awful out there. And why are we still making stupid penalties? Knock that shit off, will ya?

omicron

11-19-2007, 10:53 AM

Honestly, I am getting sick of the Pats. They are just kicking the living shit out of everyone in their way. I hate to see what they are going to do to the Jets. They might hang a hundred on em.

RedKarma

11-26-2007, 09:27 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7490604?MSNHPHMA

DarkJedi

11-27-2007, 12:41 AM

I'm curious on why someone has it out for him like that.

The news said his house was broken into twice in the past few weeks, one of the times having the culprit leave a knife on his bed...

It's like they were breaking into the house specifically to get him. He doesn't play..He stays home and that happens.

neglet

11-27-2007, 05:53 AM

If you click on the link, it's updated with the news Taylor has died from his gunshot wounds. Pretty sad, it sounded like becoming a dad had matured him. :(

Meanwhile, Droogie is pulling away again on Pick'Em:

1 Droogie 120
2 Neglet's Picks 117
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 117
4 Dr. Worm 110
5 kah 108
6 Dr. DigIt 106
7 Omicron's Brew Crew 105
8 Rappites 96
9 Umbrella 64

And somehow the Lions are still alone at 6-5 for the last playoff spot, even having dropped 3 in a row. They're going to hang on just long enough to break my heart!

omicron

11-27-2007, 07:03 AM

Sad news about Taylor. Just goes to show "never bring a knife to a gunfight"

Also, HUGE game this thursday. 10-1 Cowboys vs 10-1 packers. Brett Favre is 0-8 all time at Cowboys Stadium. I took off friday cause I plan on drinking and watching the game :popcorn:

rappites

11-27-2007, 11:32 AM

I hate being on the bottom.

Gentlemen Death

11-27-2007, 12:55 PM

That sucks....May he rest in peace....GO REDSKINS....

DarkJedi

11-27-2007, 03:26 PM

That's definitely sad. Who had it out for him like that? Why someone wanted him dead right after he had a baby girl is beyond me.

Droogie is just a fantasy god. It's hard to take him down every year and this one looks no different.

Negs is a fantasy goddess as well..She's really good but hopefully not invincible..at least not next week. :D

Gentlemen Death

11-29-2007, 05:44 PM

It will not let me pick my choices for this week...WTF!?!?!?:mad:

DarkJedi

11-30-2007, 01:40 AM

You didn't get them in before 7:10 pm tonight, the first game of the week? That was the deadline before the Cowboys-Packers game. If it didn't let you pick the games before that time, then Yahoo definitely screwed you on it. Not sure if there's an email to report those types of malfunctions but I bet there is one somewhere...

Then again, Yahoo's answer to malfunctions is just closing accounts, nice guys that they are.

neglet

11-30-2007, 06:49 AM

Post your picks (minus GB/Dallas) in here before Sunday morning, and we'll tally it and add it to your Yahoo total. That amount of math I can handle.

Gentlemen Death

11-30-2007, 12:09 PM

Alright, cool...Thanks:D

I will get back to you by the end of the day... :D

Gentlemen Death

12-01-2007, 06:29 PM

Alright since I missed the Dallas game, I guess just mark that as Incorrect for me.

Here are the rest of my picks:

NYJ over Miami
Detroit over Minnesota
Philadelphia over Seattle
Tennesse over Houston
Indianapolis over Jacksonville
Washington over Buffalo
San Diego over Kansas City
Carolina over San Fran
St. Louis over Atlanta
Arizona over Cleveland
Denver over Oakland
Tampa Bay over New Orleans
NYG over Chicago
Pittsburgh over Cincinnati
New England over Baltimore

neglet

12-03-2007, 10:38 AM

Alright since I missed the Dallas game, I guess just mark that as Incorrect for me.

Here are the rest of my picks:

+ NYJ over Miami
- Detroit over Minnesota {sucker.}
- Philadelphia over Seattle
+ Tennesse over Houston
+ Indianapolis over Jacksonville
- Washington over Buffalo
+ San Diego over Kansas City
+ Carolina over San Fran
+ St. Louis over Atlanta
+ Arizona over Cleveland
- Denver over Oakland
+ Tampa Bay over New Orleans
+ NYG over Chicago
+ Pittsburgh over Cincinnati
TBA New England over Baltimore

That's 10 correct so far. Much better than my sucky week.

And may I say?

SAME OLD LIONS. {puts bag over head}

DarkJedi

12-03-2007, 01:53 PM

Funny thing is....It's still not over for the Lions. Your team may still hit the playoffs with the NFC being the way it is.

Giants have the 5th seed..but that 6th seed is basically between Lions, Vikings & Cardinals..all 6-6 now.

neglet

12-03-2007, 02:17 PM

Yeah, but who has tiebreaker victories over the Lions? The Cards, the Giants, the Eagles, the Redskins. So basically they need to starting winning again, but they'll lose to Dallas this week, then they have iffy games with San Diego and Kansas City before facing Green Bay in Green Bay. If they can win one of these last four games, I'll be amazed.

DarkJedi

12-04-2007, 03:57 AM

I wouldn't worry about my Chiefs. They'll roll over and play dead. Keep that draft pick high... :lol:

Watching them lose these games in Arrowhead has been a bit frustrating for me. Are you playing Green Bay in the last game of the year? I haven't checked the schedule but if you are, it's likely GB will have locked up the 2nd seed by then. They'll start Favre to keep his record but I doubt they'll keep the starters in if they know they can't move up or down a playoff seed. It may be a winnable game, depending on their outlook at that time.

You'll definitely beat my Chiefs. *Roll over! Good boys!*

The Chargers are good but not that good..They're certainly not the consistent team they were last year.

At least, you're kicking ass in fantasy...as always.

fastcar

12-04-2007, 05:13 AM

Holy Crap. The Ravens almost toppled the Pats? That was definitely their game to lose. I hate both teams but I hate the Pats more. In a way, though, I'm glad they lost. It helps our division and I want the Steelers to knock them off like they did in 04.

The chinks in the armor are there. All Pittsburgh has to do is exploit them.

And boy, isn't Bart Scott a little whiner. His ass ought to be suspended.

RedKarma

12-04-2007, 07:33 AM

I agree that the Chargers aren't consistent. Good news for negs is Kansas City is equally unpredictable, so catching a break there is definitely possible.

I didn't see the thing with Bart Scott (dang, I almost wrote Bart Starr!), what's his beef? Personally I think the NFL has drama queens second only to the NBA. I think the league actually gives NBA players classes in acting.

neglet

12-04-2007, 10:57 AM

Updated standings:

1 Droogie 132
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 128
3 Neglet's Picks 125
4 Dr. Worm 118
4 kah 118
6 Dr. DigIt 106+11 = 117
7 Omicron's Brew Crew 114
8 Rappites 106
9 Umbrella 64

The Tyrant Virus

12-04-2007, 12:13 PM

9 Umbrella 64

Yeah I gave up a couple weeks ago.

fastcar

12-04-2007, 01:14 PM

I feel like a tool. I should have got in on this with you all. In my office pool I'm in third place with 128pts. The end of the year pot is already up to $660.

omicron

12-05-2007, 10:01 AM

Don't forget, we have another Thursday night game this week.

Someone explain to me how I am 44.5% in our league, but 64% in another pickem league??? Something about Yahoo's page must subliminally screw with my picks. I don't like how they list the teams by underdog rather than home/away team. :confused:

DarkJedi

12-06-2007, 01:51 AM

Bad Mojo perhaps, Omi?

You're right that the underdog/favorite system is tricky at times. I still can't believe Yahoo had Miami as a favorite over the Jets last weekend even if they were at Miami...Sheesh. I know the Jets are bad but not that bad..

Should be a good game this weekend with the Steelers vs. Patriots too.

Ravens vs. Colts may be decent as well..Ravens are the best losing team around after that performance on Monday Night.

omicron

12-06-2007, 06:50 AM

yeah I've actually picked the Pats to lose this week.

The Tyrant Virus

12-10-2007, 08:48 AM

What a horrible game. I stopped watching about halfway through the 3rd quarter.

fastcar

12-10-2007, 01:15 PM

I stopped watching after it was 14-10. Ridiculous. At least it's harder to beat a team twice which is exactly where we are headed......

TrekSucksHard

12-11-2007, 03:30 AM

Wohoo! Wrecks Grossman goes down (pity it wasn't permanently but I dearly hope he is gone from the Bears) and Kyle Orton is in as the new starter! :D

(Don't make me look bad, Kyle)

neglet

12-11-2007, 06:48 AM

At this point in the season, does it really matter?

Anyway, updated Pick'Em standings. Droogie slipped, so we're gaining with only 3 weeks left!

1 Droogie 144
2 Chiefs Better Not Suck 142
3 Neglet's Picks 139
4 Dr. Worm 132
5 Dr. DigIt 118 + 11 = 129
6 kah 128
7 Omicron's Brew Crew 125
8 Rappites 118
Gave up. Umbrella 64

kah

12-11-2007, 07:50 AM

I suck. :(

The Tyrant Virus

12-11-2007, 08:58 AM

I suck. :(

Not as bad as I did, hence my throwing in the towel.

RedKarma

12-11-2007, 09:05 AM

If a few weeks ago it was "upset week", this week was just devastating.

So many slaughters, I thought I had wandered into an abattoir.

Gentlemen Death

12-11-2007, 11:47 AM

Hey, anything can still happen...you never know...:D

omicron

12-11-2007, 12:41 PM

ARGH! Finally a chance to advance past the first round in a league with my buddies, and Adrian Peterson throws up a 14 carry 3 yd performance and I lose by 16pts. :mad: :Angry:

DarkJedi

12-13-2007, 07:20 AM

I don't really care about the Falcons or Arkansas but this is the latest NFL hot story and the Falcon players are hurt...Something I sorta understand. A headcoach quitting them 13 games into the season in his first year of a five year contract??. Ugh...

Here's the details:

ATLANTA (AP) -- Bobby Petrino resigned as Atlanta Falcons coach on Tuesday, a person within the league told The Associated Press. He lasted only 13 games with the NFL team.

Petrino left Louisville to become Falcons coach in January for a five-year, $24 million contract, largely because Atlanta felt he could help star quarterback Michael Vick reach his full potential.

A few months later, Vick came under investigation for a grisly dogfighting operation that eventually led him to plead guilty to federal charges. He was sentenced Monday to 23 months in prison without ever taking a snap for Petrino.

The person familiar with Petrino's decision requested anonymity because the team has not yet announced it. There was immediate speculation he had quit to take a college job, with Arkansas among the schools seeking a coach.

Arkansas has been looking for two weeks for a coach to replace Houston Nutt, who resigned after a tumultuous season and hours later took the Mississippi job.

After losing Vick, Petrino tried three other starting quarterbacks without success. The Falcons are 3-10 and assured of the 32nd losing season in their 42-year history.

The resignation of Petrino was another jarring blow to the Falcons, who dealt with Vick's legal troubles since the first day of training camp, when a plane flew overhead pulling a sign that said: "New Team Name? Dog Killers?"

Petrino assembled one of college football's highest-scoring offenses at Louisville, but the Falcons were anemic without Vick. They also were plagued by injuries on the offensive line, which forced them to start two players who weren't even drafted out of college.

Just hours after Vick's sentencing in Richmond, Va., Atlanta took its fourth straight double-digit loss, 34-14 to the New Orleans Saints.

"Not a good day," Petrino said afterward.

Here's the Falcon Reactions:

"We kept hearing rumors and stuff like that," running back Warrick Dunn said. "It got to the point where guys really didn't care if he left or not. But the way he decided to leave, to me, was just not right."

Falcons owner Arthur Blank sounded as though he had just been stabbed in the back. He got a call late last week from Dallas owner Jerry Jones, an Arkansas alumnus, to say the school was interested in talking to Petrino about its coaching vacancy.

Blank said he told Jones the Falcons had no intention of letting the Razorbacks speak with their coach, and general manager Rich McKay confirmed that position in a follow-up call with Jones.

That was followed by a series of meetings over the weekend in which Petrino laid out some of his concerns, and the Falcons thought they had addressed them all. In fact, Blank said he met again with the coach on Monday, just hours before Atlanta's 34-14 loss to the New Orleans Saints, to make sure he wasn't planning to leave.

"He stood up, we shook hands and he said, 'You have a head coach,' " Blank said.

Twenty-four hours later, Petrino submitted his resignation, hopped on a plane to Arkansas and signed a deal as Razorbacks coach.

All he left behind for the players was that letter.

Safety Lawyer Milloy had a copy of it taped above his locker, with a red "X" through Petrino's words and the player's own assessment written in: "Coward."

"I feel like I've been sleeping with the enemy the past eight months," Milloy said.

The Falcons were particularly upset about Petrino's jovial demeanor at his first news conference in Arkansas, where he even participated in the school's "calling the hogs" cheer. It was the first time any of the players could remember him smiling.

"That's what I think brought up the anger, to have him talk about family, about team and about commitment, and then to come in here and have a form letter at your locker," quarterback Joey Harrington said. "That's not how a man acts. That's how a coward acts."

Defensive end Jamal Anderson, the Falcons' first-round pick from Arkansas, was asked what he would tell his alma mater about their new coach.

"One word: Disloyal," Anderson replied.

RedKarma

12-13-2007, 09:43 AM

That's pretty cold alright. He should have at least finished out the season with Atlanta. It's not like there would be any massive change to Arkansas' standings - their season is over, whereas Atlanta still has more than a month left of ball to play.

I liked Atlanta at the beginning of last year's season, I thought they had some potential. It all fell apart somewhere around week 8 or 9, and I thought part of the reason could be discipline problems within the team itself; there seemed to be a lot of finger pointing among the players and amateur theatrics on the field. Just my impressions, mind you, I didn't do any following up or research on the team itself.

Still this sort of behavior out of a head coach makes me think one of two things: either the team owners/organization are ogres to work for, and the environment is so oppressive it's either leave and be sane or stay and go crazy. Or like the one player said Petrino is a coward alright, a truly special type of rat-headed coward. All I know is I wouldn't have let my team down with so many weeks left to play. But then, I have honor, and am used to working for ogres (and lesser demons too).

Just my $.02

Thanks for posting this DJ.