View Full Version : Checking in with Minneapolis folk
08-02-2007, 12:13 PM
You might know that Adam54 lives in Minneapolis, and in case you were wondering after the bridge collapse last night, Adam and all his friends/relatives weren't harmed. With the board being up and down, he hasn't been able to log on yet and he wanted me to pass along the news that he's okay and he'll be back annoying us with "Colts this" and "Colts that" before we know it.
My thoughts to everyone up in Minneapolis. I can't imagine being one of those with missing loved ones, waiting for the recovery teams to search the wreckage underwater.
08-02-2007, 01:09 PM
Freaky shit. Apparently, that bridge was the subject of an exhaustive study on bridge safety recently and it was determined to be structurally sound.
08-02-2007, 01:11 PM
Glad to hear that Adam is o.k.. What a terrible thing to happen. The people entombed in their car under all the debris is just .... has to be devastating for their family. I read somewhere that they are sending divers down to get license plate numbers to identify who may be in the car. Because, until they get the bridge off the car. They would have to wait longer to find out.
There will be some suing going.
I'm glad Adam's ok.
The news here said the bridge was declared structurally deficient 2 years ago.
08-03-2007, 09:21 AM
Yeah, I'd heard that, but then after that, a university study claimed that it was in acceptable shape. I caught it on the local news talk radio station. I'll see if I can find a link to that story because, like everyone else, I've been hearing that the bridge was declared deficient.
08-03-2007, 09:33 AM
"Structurally deficient" basically means "we're going to have to think about fixing it someday maybe."
And from what they tell us, some 60,000 bridges in the country have that label.
And you're right Jake, the U of M did study it...I think just last year and determined it would need replacement by 2020, but could make it for now.
I think they got that one wrong. Don't know for sure though.
Yeah, sorry, sad times up here. Strange times up here. We're not used to being international news, especially over a disaster. The only other time we've made international news for a disaster in my lifetime is when we elected Jesse Ventura to be the governor.
Thank you, tip your waitress.
But like negs says, I'm fine, the family is fine, the friends are fine. I'm about a half hour from where this happened, and have been fighting a terrible urge to go look in person. Can't tell you how many times I've crossed that bridge.
Thanks for the well wishes and good thoughts. Keep 'em coming.
08-03-2007, 09:53 AM
Sue Ellen, thanks for that! Now I don't have to waste my time looking.
Oh yeah, I'm glad you're not dead.
08-03-2007, 10:13 AM
I dunno Adam, The vikings are mighty sad too....
Glad to hear your ok, though. Otherwise, who'd put up with my bs in mod hell?
08-03-2007, 11:57 AM
This is not to make light of the tragedy, but......
Talk about Fear and Loathing in the American media....they just LOOOOOOVE to take these kinds of stories and run with them and milk them for every sensational drop they can create out of them.
On the local news the other night....
"There are an estimated 600,000 bridges in the United States, and it's estimated that over 20 percent of them are structurally deficient!!!!!!!!!"
OHHHH, MYYYYYYY GAAAAAAAAAWWWWD!!!!!!!!!! http://a159.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/54/l_b247efac1f82ccb1800670991aba33f6.jpg
08-03-2007, 12:16 PM
Well, that's so much easier than actually trying to educate people about infrastructure issues. In the county next to mine, they've actually closed about 8 road bridges this summer because they aren't safe any more, but the county doesn't have enough money to keep up with all the repairs. It's all part of the "get something for nothing" attitude that's pervades any time you mention taxes. People say cut cut cut cut cut! I needs all my money for soy lattes and iPhones!, and forget that sometimes government actually spends money on things that benefit everyone, like maintaining roads and bridges.
But people don't want to hear that, so the media focuses on the scary stuff because it makes it sound like we can't do anything.:(
I'm glad you could check in, Adam. My aunt also lives in Minneapolis, but since she had a stroke last year and can't drive anymore, I know she's okay. I really feel for the families of those missing, though.
08-04-2007, 06:07 AM
It's a North America problem. We built those huge infrastructures and we didn't think that they will need maintenance and will need some work done in the future. It's like buying a house and thinking only about the mortgage and the taxes. You will have a big surprise in the near future (even with a new house).
Another factor is the traffic grew far more larger than they thought when they were built. Including the big trucks traffic, trucks that are often more heavy than allowed.
Glad that everybody is ok, Adam.
The Big Dig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig_%28Boston%2C_Massachusetts%29)is one of those examples why so much has been left undone in the rest of the country.
Talk about a fuck-job.
08-04-2007, 09:40 AM
I was up in Boston in the late '90s, and man, did that think look like a total cluster then...
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