Bond 22 theme song speculation.

[Daltons Chin Dimple]

TWINE could be accused of having a touch of emo crossed with mild grunge, DAD was a bit electro-pop. CR was more rocky. There hasn't been a "traditional" Bond theme really since Tina Turner and GoldenEye.

Which route do you think they will take for Bond 22 ?

[conman]

Whatever works with the tone of the movie. Probably something in a similar vein to Cornell's song. Maybe this time with a female belting it out. Bjork-yes Amy Winehouse-no.

[Kara Milovy]

Actually, I think Winehouse is a good choice, and I suspect the direction they'll go in. I just have a feeling they'll want a TSWLM type; a lush female voice with a lot of romance.

[neglet]

I was thinking Winehouse would be a natural choice, her voice is kind of a throwback to the old-time theme songs, she's hot, and she's British.

[Daltons Chin Dimple]

She's f*cked and she's in rehab !!!!

Even though she said "no, no, no."

:D

[WhiteKnight]

Cornell's "You Know My Name" was good enough I don't see why the newest theme couldn't follow along in the same vein. I'd even go as far to say that I prefer another male vocalist since they're so few and far between in this franchise, but I don't think I'll be fussed if that doesn't happen.

Must we return to the love ballad archetype? Granted, there are quite a few good Bond themes that were bred from the concept, but wasn't the whole point of Casino Royale to take the franchise in a different direction? Shouldn't the music go in a different direction, too?

[Kara Milovy]

She said "no no no" to appearing as a Bond girl. The song is an open question, and she's exactly the right vibe.

The men have been few and far between in the nineties. I like Winehouse because she's the real thing, she really has that retro voice instead of faking it like Sheryl Crow did.

They alternated male/female until TSWLM was such a mega-hit. The only male singers since then have been AVTAK, TLD, and CR.

The problem with Chris Cornell, WK, is exactly what you say; it was "good enough." I think it can be a whole hell of a lot better than "good enough."

[conman]

Sorry I was intrigued by Winehouse at first but I've suffered so much overkill from her lately. I can't seem to escape her song be it home, work, or car. I just can't stand her anymore.

[Kara Milovy]

Sorry I was intrigued by Winehouse at first but I've suffered so much overkill from her lately. I can't seem to escape her song be it home, work, or car. I just can't stand her anymore.

I listen to alternative radio, and even they play her, but not to the point of overkill.

[conman]

I listen to alternative radio, and even they play her, but not to the point of overkill.

I live in one of those big small towns so I have a limited choice in radio (maybe 8 non-country stations) and don't want to shell out the bucks for satellite yet. At least 3 of those stations play her music and I am one of those guys who is constantly channel surfing. I literally hear it at least twice a day.

[Daltons Chin Dimple]

Sorry Kara, I meant the "No, No, No" thing about her being in rehab as per the riff from her song "They tried to make me go to rehab but I said....".

Anyhoo, she is seriously f*cked up at the moment. She has been all over the papers in the UK covered in blood from self harming, she is on heroin, in and out of rehab, beating up her new hubby from the looks of him, plus fights between sets of parents and so on. If she doesn't sort herself out she may not be around in time for the release date !

[WhiteKnight]

Or at all for that matter.

[Cooper]

KARA MILOVOY said:
The problem with Chris Cornell, WK, is exactly what you say; it was "good enough." I think it can be a whole hell of a lot better than "good enough.

I recently rewatched CR on DVD and disagree that the theme was just "good enough". I think it was perfect for the new Bond and I when I watched the DVD I was struck by how good it was.

It is EASILY better than any Brosnan theme.

As a matter of fact, I'd put it in the top 5 Bond theme songs.... (not counting the classic Dr. No theme)
1) Live and Let Die
2) A View to a Kill
3) Casino Royale
4) The Spy Who Loved Me
5) For Your Eyes Only

[conman]

As a matter of fact, I'd put it in the top 5 Bond theme songs.... (not counting the classic Dr. No theme)
1) Live and Let Die
2) A View to a Kill
3) Casino Royale
4) The Spy Who Loved Me
5) For Your Eyes Only

Uggh, For Your Eyes Only? After hearing Blondie's rejected, yet much better, demo I can no longer listen to Sheena's song. Too slow, too dull. If you replace that with Garbage's TWINE theme, we would have the same Top 5, but in different order.

[neglet]

See, and I say UGGGH to "A View to a Kill." Simon LeBon's nasal whine gets on my last nerve and I'd rather listen to fingernails on chalkboard. I would put the Garbage theme in my top 5, though.

[tstone]

LOVE View To A Kill. EASILY the best part of a Bond movie that otherwise sucks turd water.

[conman]

LOVE View To A Kill. EASILY the best part of a Bond movie that otherwise sucks turd water.

Yup. one of it's only saving graces

[Cooper]

Yeah... I can see your point for the FYEO theme but I will never back down on AVTAK. Never!

For purely nostalgic reasons, I almost picked "All Time High" from Octopussy. It was my first Bond in the theater and I remember it on the radio that whole summer.

Where can I find the Blondie Bond theme?

[conman]

It was on her 'Hunter' album but you could also download it on many, ahem, file sharing sites. I have never seen a youtube clip of it though.

[Daltons Chin Dimple]

Now, now ! We all know that the high point of AVTAK was performed by the Beach Boys !!!!

[WhiteKnight]

Actually "California Girls" was performed by Gidea Park, a tribute band, for that portion of VTAK.

[Kara Milovy]

Actually "California Girls" was performed by Gidea Park, a tribute band, for that portion of VTAK.

Wow, I didn't know that.

[Archangel972]

Where can I find the Blondie Bond theme?

It's on YouTube. Someone synced it up with the FYEO title credits. Of course, the title sequence would've been totally different as I doubt Sheena Easton would've showed up in it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3anh2SV-7s

I'm not sure what to make of the song. At first I thought it sounded a little corny. However, after hearing it a few more times, the song has grown on me. I get the feeling they really went out of their way to make it sound "Bondian".

[conman]

Here is Ace of Base's demo for GoldenEye with the film's titles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DYc2ITx2sE

... and the finished song, what went on to become "The Juvenile", with the titles (these lyrics aren't quite as cheesy)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWCwjirYjps

Surprisingly for Ace of Base it's not bad. Actually pretty good, but I've always had mixed feelings about Ms. Turner's tune.

[Archangel972]

Surprisingly for Ace of Base it's not bad. Actually pretty good, but I've always had mixed feelings about Ms. Turner's tune.

The Ace of Base version is OK, but kind of generic. When I first heard that Tina Turner was going to do a Bond song, I thought she was the perfect choice. The song written by Bono and Edge of U2 fame is not spectacular but Turner's voice really brings it up a notch IMO.

[conman]

The Ace of Base version is OK, but kind of generic. When I first heard that Tina Turner was going to do a Bond song, I thought she was the perfect choice. The song written by Bono and Edge of U2 fame is not spectacular but Turner's voice really brings it up a notch IMO.

She was a perfect choice. But it seems like Bono and Edge put more effort into their theme for Batman Forever earlier that year than for GoldenEye. Imagine if David Arnold would've done the score and written the song with Ms. Turner. Probably could've been one of the finest and classiest in the series.

[WhiteKnight]

I don't think anyone's going to argue GoldenEye's score, Tina Turner or no Tina Turner, would have been hugely more impressive with David Arnold attached.

[Kara Milovy]

I love the GoldenEye theme song, it's one of my favorites. I don't know why my son and I are the only ones who flip out over it.

[Daltons Chin Dimple]

I think it's fantastic too. I think certain parts of Eric Sera's score are phenomenal too, but overall it is a bit lightweight.

[Archangel972]

Btw, have you guys heard Alice Cooper's rejected Bond song for TMWTGG? Someone synced it up with the credits (those Bond fans are clever): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R500VKA9-Zo

[WhiteKnight]

I love the GoldenEye theme song, it's one of my favorites. I don't know why my son and I are the only ones who flip out over it.

I'm not saying I don't like it. I'm saying I think it would have been better had David Arnold been scoring that particular movie.

Haven't listened to Cooper's take on TMWTGG yet, but I'm going to assume arbitrarily that it has to be better than LuLu or whatever she was called.

[neglet]

Uh, no.

[Daltons Chin Dimple]

"Love is required, whenever he's hired, it comes just before the kill......"

Classic ! :D

[conman]

I was never a fan of Cooper's theme for TMWTGG, but maybe if they would've given it the 'Bond touch' it may have been okay.

Dionne Warwick's "Mr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" from Thunderball

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oREmbGD84Kw

Has anyone looked for Pulp's "Tomorrow Never Lies" demo or Straw's "The World is not Enough"? I'm having a little trouble

[Archangel972]

I've always liked "Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" better than Tom Jones' song. I could be wrong but I believe the producers wanted a different song b/c they wanted the word "Thunderball" to be prominently featured. Shirley Bassey also recorded a version of "Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" if I'm not mistaken.

[BeauButabi]

I don't think anyone's going to argue GoldenEye's score, Tina Turner or no Tina Turner, would have been hugely more impressive with David Arnold attached.
I'll argue. I think David Arnold is hugely overrated. Every score he's done for the Bond movies has done nothing for me. After Purvis & Wade, Arnold is the worst thing about the last several Bond movies.

[conman]

I'll argue. I think David Arnold is hugely overrated. Every score he's done for the Bond movies has done nothing for me. After Purvis & Wade, Arnold is the worst thing about the last several Bond movies.

Sorry I have to disagree. All of his scores have echoed classic Bond in one way or another and they are all beautifully written and orchastrated (even some parts of DAD). He has yet to deliver a bad score. He really seems to have a firm grasp on the Bond series as to what it needs musically.

Furthermore, the songs he has written with the musicians have been fantastic. "The World is not Enough" is my absolute favorite Bond theme of all time and "You Know My Name" is in my top 5. "Surrender" outshined Sheryl Crow's theme and deserved to open the film. It's too bad we will never hear "I Will Return" (his DAD effort). I know he used parts of it in his DAD score but I would've loved to hear the actual song.

[WhiteKnight]

Well, love or hatred for Arnold aside, I really didn't expect anybody to tell me they liked Eric Serra's take on the music better. I guess that was a bit of arrogant presumption.

I thought Arnold's work on Tomorrow Never Dies kicked serious ass, and the work on TWINE, DAD and CR were at the very least good entries. I did notice there were a lot of similarities between DAD and CR that left me wondering if he had exhausted his options for the series, but the CR soundtrack quashed those doubts.

I too would love to hear any alternate to the ghastly tune pressed upon us by Madonna known as Die Another Day. Sadly I also doubt it'll ever see the right of day.

[BeauButabi]

Okay, I'll admit that the title songs have been pretty good. The last few are actually among my favs. But I really loved Serra's score. Sure, it's not perfect and has an odd place here and there, but I really dig it in general.

[conman]

Wow... I don't think anyone's fessed up too liking Serra's score before. Kudos to you. I think it's too electronic and severely underuses the Bond theme. Remember, this was supposed to be the triumphant return of 007 and yet we get a very muted use of the iconic Bond theme.

[WhiteKnight]

Okay, I'll admit that the title songs have been pretty good. The last few are actually among my favs. But I really loved Serra's score. Sure, it's not perfect and has an odd place here and there, but I really dig it in general.

Yeah, didn't see that coming. To each their own I guess.

I think I've mentioned before that there are one or two tracks on the GE soundtrack I really enjoy. Tracks 3 and 4 specifically, but the rest are, in my view, inferior to Arnold's work in the last four film scores.