View Full Version : Star Trek TOS cliches in new movie
tstone
08-27-2007, 05:58 AM
Ok, you know those classic hooks, you could almost always count on seeing in a TOS ep, what do you want to see crop up in the new movie?
Here are some of my initial votes...
1. Spock and McCoy sparring verbally over something.
2. That classic generic Trek melee/fight music, you know which music I mean...
3. The Enterprise taking a big hit and folks falling out of their chairs
4. Gratuitous redshirt death
What say you all?
neglet
08-27-2007, 06:39 AM
Kirk sucking hot alien female face!
.... actually I don't want to see that in the new movie, but it's such a cliche I'm surprised you overlooked it.
I want to see that. I want to see her in a bikini and painted green too.
Metuzalem
08-27-2007, 08:39 AM
Kirk in a one-on-one fistfight with some henchman, Kirk (and his stunt-double) take an absolute beating until Kirk gets his shirt ripped then he rips the henchman's face off.
Bones telling Kirk "I'm a doctor, not a......"
Scotty moaning about the laws of physics.
Spock and his eyebrow (actually, sack Quinto, get the Rock to play Spock!)
Uhura using every oppurtunity to show off her legs.
Yoeman Johnson (there is always one!)
Nostromo
08-27-2007, 04:22 PM
$10 says we see this scene as referenced in Where No Man Has Gone Before
N:popcorn:
Lt. Mitchell: Hey, man, I remember you back at the Academy; a stack of books with legs! The only thing I ever heard from an upperclassman was, "Watch out for Lt. Kirk! In his class, you either think, or sink!"
Capt. Kirk: I wasn't THAT bad, was I?
Lt. Mitchell: If I hadn't aimed that little blond technician at you...
Capt. Kirk: You what? You... you PLANNED that?
Lt. Mitchell: Well, you wanted me to think, didn't you? I outlined her whole campaign for her!
Capt. Kirk: I almost MARRIED her!
TrekSucksHard
08-27-2007, 11:19 PM
Well I'll take a TOS cliche to a TNG cliche anytime!
TNG cliches:
1) Data's stupid song and dance routine
2) The knobbyheaded alien of the week
3) Picard's bald head
4) Plot dilemma solved using technobabble
5) Wesley Crusher acting smarter than the adults
:Tongue:
tstone
08-28-2007, 12:18 AM
Yup, definitely down with some voluptuous alien chick action...
Violanthe
08-29-2007, 12:45 PM
Hey, I like Picard's bald head.
Al-Dog
08-29-2007, 01:49 PM
Kirk sucking hot alien female face!
.... actually I don't want to see that in the new movie, but it's such a cliche I'm surprised you overlooked it.
Sex with an alien.
Just think about that for a moment.
I don’t care how hot they look, they are not human. Hell they aren’t even mammals.
How freakishly weird would you have to be to think it’s a good idea to have sex with a being from another planet?
And what about STDs’?
You’d think they would have a better screening process in place to select the captain of a star ship.
Space Tycoon
08-29-2007, 06:06 PM
Really ill-fitting flare-bottomed pants that come up to just below the knee when you sit down!
Pointy leather boots that Gary Glitter wouldn't be caught dead in!
Pointy sideburns!
Sound in space (duh!)
Lots of wigs for the lumpy-foreheaded aliens!!
Blatantly Token Minorities! Ensign Oriental! Security Officer Black Guy! Admiral Hindu! :lol:
Oh, and time travel!! :rolleyes:
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tstone
08-30-2007, 10:27 AM
Plaster alien landscapes?
Gentlemen Death
08-30-2007, 04:53 PM
Could someone please explain to mehow the money situation worked for the Star Trek series...I was watching TNG on spike earlier and that question always bugged the shit out of me. :headscratch:
Gene didn't want money in Star Trek. He had a socialist vision where there was no want. I guess it was made possible because of replicators, and the fact that humans became so evolved that they wouldn't take advantage of the situation.
However, later writers make references to transporter credits, private enterprise (pardon the pun), and whatnot. It would seem their is some sort of monetary system, but it's hazy.
Of course the Ferengi have Gold-Pressed Latinum, which is a definite currency, but that's the only one they explicitely stated. Of course, Gene created them to be bad guys for wanting profits.
Now that I think about it, I think Gene was a pinko. :D
alaristhered
08-31-2007, 12:06 PM
Well, it makes sense that there would be a transporter allowance. For instance, Sisko tried to beam home every night for dinner while he was at the Academy. That could get really wasteful really quickly.
mckracken
08-31-2007, 04:19 PM
i heard a rumor that they were going to set up a toll bridge with a commuter lane to cross the giant hole in the universe that they just found. LOL!
Gentlemen Death
08-31-2007, 08:02 PM
i heard a rumor that they were going to set up a toll bridge with a commuter lane to cross the giant hole in the universe that they just found. LOL!
The crazy thing, is that I can actually believe that...:cool:
tstone
09-01-2007, 12:43 AM
There is some kind of mercantile system. The Federation is an economic powerhouse. They have unique goods purchased by all the worlds in the Federation. Plus they deal with other races, which have mercantile systems. So obviously, a form of capitalism does exist, even though it is a utopian society where basic needs are all met.
alaristhered
09-02-2007, 12:17 PM
Well, there are many times we've seen individual starships going to other worlds and trading goods for goods, but have we ever seen them selling goods, or buying them with some sort of currency? I'm having a hard time thinking of one such instance.
Gentlemen Death
09-02-2007, 12:39 PM
Well, there are many times we've seen individual starships going to other worlds and trading goods for goods, but have we ever seen them selling goods, or buying them with some sort of currency? I'm having a hard time thinking of one such instance.
From memory, I always thought DS9 evolved around money....I am wrong>?:headscratch:
tstone
09-03-2007, 06:18 AM
In the ep "Trouble with Tribbles", there's the haggling between Syrano Jones and that bartender, for how much Jones was willing to sell a tribble. Credits were the currency being bartered.
Metuzalem
09-03-2007, 09:15 AM
Real credits or transporter credits?
alaristhered
09-03-2007, 12:39 PM
Good point - Didn't remember that. Also, on DS9, there were so many different cultures using the station as a meeting place - doesn't surprise me that there would be lots of currency being used.
I think Gene didn't want currency in a Utopia, but the problem is that writers need it for a plot device from time to time.
tstone
09-04-2007, 06:55 AM
Real credits or transporter credits?
Considering they were used in exchange for many items and goods, I would suggest "real credits". No one ever called them transporter credits or used them in association with the transporter.
tstone
09-04-2007, 06:58 AM
I think Gene didn't want currency in a Utopia, but the problem is that writers need it for a plot device from time to time.
Perhaps. But I'll tell you, IMO, if you had a society that met basic needs for survival and comfort, and you just needed money for extras, you could still have a thriving capitalist economy, but still have Trek's envisioned Utopia.
Daltons Chin Dimple
09-04-2007, 07:03 AM
I will exchange you my pig for one of those phaser thingies.
mckracken
09-04-2007, 06:48 PM
wow I could just see the jokes when Capt. Kirk plunked two transporter credits into the transporter credit coin slot... I wonder how far you could transport yourself for two credits? LOL!!
i wonder how many transporter credits they payed Colm Meaney to rescue Scotty from the Transporter loop he was in in Relics? Surely that HAD to cost them something... he wouldnt do it for FREE would he?
Johnzilla
09-17-2007, 08:12 AM
The film has to have the retro feel, but I would like to see a modern interpretation of the ship, weapons and wardrobes. I gotta see the women dressed in those awesome Trek mini-dresses!
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