Teensy, weensy bit of Bond 22 scoopage.

[Daltons Chin Dimple]

Haggis has spoken :

1) Tonally, it will be identical to CR. It will NOT be jokier or lighter.

2) It starts off two minutes from the end of CR. It is a direct continuation.

[WhiteKnight]

Response = :D Sweet!

[conman]

That's great. Now, have it open with the gunbarrel and I will be a happy camper.

[LeiterCIA]

That's great. Now, have it open with the gunbarrel and I will be a happy camper.

Amen!!

[Daltons Chin Dimple]

I have a concern that now the gunbarrel opening has been brought "inside" the film in CR, there will be a contrived reason found in each movie to have Craig turn to camera and shoot right before the segue into the opening titles.

e.g. opens two minutes after the end of CR. Bond has interrogated Mr White after shooting him in the foot as per the end of CR. Opening pre-titles sequence is Bond escaping the Italian lakeside villa as Mr White's associates turn up, and he has to turn and shoot one as he escapes..... cue titles.

<shudder>

[Archangel972]

I have a concern that now the gunbarrel opening has been brought "inside" the film in CR, there will be a contrived reason found in each movie to have Craig turn to camera and shoot right before the segue into the opening titles.

e.g. opens two minutes after the end of CR. Bond has interrogated Mr White after shooting him in the foot as per the end of CR. Opening pre-titles sequence is Bond escaping the Italian lakeside villa as Mr White's associates turn up, and he has to turn and shoot one as he escapes..... cue titles.

<shudder>

No, it definitely won't happen like that. I'm pretty sure those that are creatively involved will have the gun barrel at the very beginning. The CR gun barrel was for a specific reason, it was Bond's first kill. It made sense. Doing it again that way is not only contrived, it has little impact and takes away from the gun barrel in CR.

[WhiteKnight]

Hope you're right. I'm all for moving in a different direction, but you don't just toss out stuff that has worked for four decades.

[Gentlemen Death]

Hope you're right. I'm all for moving in a different direction, but you don't just toss out stuff that has worked for four decades.

Well, some might say it has worked and others have said it was a dying frachise and CR brought it back into light.

I always thought the originals, classics, a little silly. But that is what made them so likeable for me as well. Now, with CR brought a cooler, slick Bond, IMO, and I can say that I like what they did with CR and can not wait to see what they are going to bring with this new movie.

As for the barrel, just as long as they show it I am good. It would be wrong not to, you dig?

[WhiteKnight]

True, many claimed it was a dying franchise, but I doubt the gunbarrel was their primary reason for doing so. I figure that should stay as so because it's what people have come to except over 40 years. Imagine, for instance, a Star Wars movie with no opening crawl. Without it, to a certain extent at least, you're just watching some other sci fi flick aren't you? And you can't really just put it somewhere else because, like archangel said, it's just contrived non-sense.

The gunbarrel is pretty much the same way. In the context of CR it made sense to move it, but to keep messing with it will result in it wearing out its welcome a lot sooner than if you just put it back at the beginning.

I think David Arnold said it best in an interview he did for the expanded version of the TND soundtrack. He said his favorite part of a Bond movie is the gunbarrel because, up to that point at least, you know you could be about to watch the best Bond movie ever.

And all these people who claimed it was a dying franchise before CR have yet to explain away the notion that the last four films managed to outgross their predecessor by many millions of dollars. Inflation, in my opinion, can't account for all of it.

[conman]

Whenever a new Bond film is about to come out critics are panning the series as a 'dying' franchise. Then, they watch the movie and praise the f*ck out of it (even DAD). In no way is this franchise dying. It continually does better with each installment (since '95 at least) and has a lot more left in it to.

[Daltons Chin Dimple]

Absolutely, if a "dying franchise" pulls in over $400 million worldwide with it's last instalment (DAD) then sign me up to that gravy train !

[WhiteKnight]

Here are some more Haggis comments fresh from MI6.co. Alot of it is rehash of quotes we've already heard, but there are some new bits there as well.

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=5321

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=5320

[Cooper]

While I am very happy that Bond22 will have the same tone as CR, I'm just a tiny bit disappointed that the film will pick up "2 minutes" after the end of CR.

I didn't want it to be years later but at least a couple of months, so Craig could played a slightly more experienced Bond.

If it's so soon after CR, we know that Bond will still be affected by Vespers betrayal and death. I hope that doesn't play too big into the screenplay.

I also assume the pre-credit sequence will take place at Mr. White's place.

[WhiteKnight]

If it's so soon after CR, we know that Bond will still be affected by Vespers betrayal and death. I hope that doesn't play too big into the screenplay.

I can't imagine why. This could be the vengenace story we should've gotten following Tracy's murder in OHMSS. How much more ass would DAF have kicked if it spent some time on how messed up Tracy's death left Bond and how it eventually turned into a motivating factor when Blofeld resurfaced? I can't help but looking at this as good news.

Still, I'm with you in that Bond better be born again hard in this movie. No more of this shit where he gets found out every couple seconds by making stupid mistakes like in CR. We've had our origin story that showed how Bond overcame brash recklessness (which was one of the points of contention I had with CR since Fleming's Bond was never as brash as Craig's Bond) to become England's top BMF. He should be back on form for Bond 22.