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11-26-2007, 05:49 PM
This happened while I was visiting my family for Thanksgiving.
Lindauer was arrested Thanksgiving night for the shooting, which killed 29-year-old Nicole Stroud. Authorities believe Lindauer fired the bullet from her home at the dog, but it missed, hit the ground and ricocheted underneath a privacy fence and into Stroud.
It pierced Stroud's heart and both lungs, causing substantial internal injuries. She died at Deaconess Hospital.
How does a bullet from a .357 magnum gun ricoche off the ground?
Woman killed on Thanksgiving (http://www.courierpress.com/news/2007/nov/26/charges-filed-fatal-shooting/)
11-26-2007, 07:16 PM
Probably.. piece of metal or rock buried deep in the ground.
I don't see the big deal. She was shooting at the dog to protect her property, just like that man in Texas who shot the guys who broke into his neighbors' house. So things just went slightly wrong here, but that's the risk you take when you allow people to use lethal force.
Oh, that wasn't in Texas? Well, then she has to go to jail, of course.
11-27-2007, 05:30 AM
...How does a bullet from a .357 magnum gun ricoche off the ground?...
What makes you think a .357 bullet can't ricochet? Any firearm projectile can ricochet unless it is a specific design that inhibits this action. There are several factors that may contribute to this particular projectile ricocheting. The report does not go into enough detail to determine what exactly, but one factor may be the angle of the shot as well as the distance between the muzzle and the point-of-contact in which the ricochet occured. The shallower the angle the more likely the projectile will glance off the surface it hits. Another factor may be the type of round. The hardness of the bullet can contribute to what it will do when it hits a surface. Some bullets are soft or notched, a design intended to make the bullet flatten or "mushroom" on impact, causing a larger hole in the intended target (especially soft tissues), while other bullets are made of a hardened alloy, intended to penetrate without mis-shaping, which are pretty much intended as armor-piercing. There are many types in between these two. Another factor can be the hardness of the surface that was hit at the point of ricochet. And even though the firearm was a .357, the round fired may not have been a magnum round or a high-powered round for that matter. Not every round that uses that caliber has the same specific impulse. It could have been a low-powered round, intended for target shooting or somesuch.
11-27-2007, 06:16 AM
Oh, don't impose logic into this.
11-27-2007, 10:44 AM
So why was she shooting at the dog in the first place? Was it barking to loud?
This story and the one about the Texas shooter is forcing me to rethink my position on gun control. :headscratch:
11-27-2007, 11:20 AM
The dog had gotten into their backyard at one time and dug up a cat that they had buried in their back yard.
Like I told Outy. If I did not want the damn dog in my back yard. I would have fixed the hole in the fence.
Damn stubborn people. Now her ass is going to jail and somebody died on Thanksgiving.
People are pissing me off!!!!!!!!!:mad:
11-27-2007, 01:51 PM
they say "ground" but perhaps the bullet richochet'd off concrete? That would explain it.
she shot the dog after it dug up their cat that was dead? wow thats almost like Pet Semetary only without the dog getting shot.... did the cat come back to life?
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