Official 2008-2009 NFL Thread

[DarkJedi]

Never too early to talk NFL with me....And damn, I miss watching it every Sunday already!

Here's the 2008 Draft selection order. (April 26-27)

1 Dolphins
2 Rams
3 Falcons
4 Raiders
5 Chiefs
6 Jets
7 Patriots From 49ers
8 Ravens
9 Bengals
10 Saints
11 Bills
12 Broncos
13 Panthers
14 Bears
15 Lions
16 Cardinals
17 Vikings
18 Texans
19 Eagles
20 Buccaneers
21 Redskins
22 Cowboys From Browns
23 Steelers
24 Titans
25 Seahawks
26 Jaguars
27 Chargers
28 Cowboys
29 49ers From Colts
30 Packers
31 Giants


And so it begins...:popcorn:

[RedKarma]

Things To Do on Sundays When There Is No Football


Revive your on again, off again relationship with baseball.

Put little football helmets on your hampsters and lecture them on the forward pass.

Go to hockey's house and ask repeatedly "How many teams get in your playoffs?".

Visit your nearby stadium, pick a nice seat, and boo continuously.

Watch rugby while rugby's parents go out for a night on the town.


Remeber: Unlike the great astroturf vs. grass debates, there have been no attributable deaths to football withdrawl. Yet. :wink:

[TrekSucksHard]

I'm currently checking the free agent swaps thats happening and I'm somewhat happy Lance Briggs stayed with the Bears- it takes some of the sting off that Grossman deal. :D

[RedKarma]

The Bears lost Bernard Barrian to the Vikes & traded Brian Griese to the Bucs for a draft pick. They also didn't renew that one player who I won't even try to spell his name - the one with about a dozen vowels in it. Heck I'm not sure I got Barrian spelled right.

I feel sorry for Griese. Unlike Grossman he really didn't get a chance to play, and when he did, he didn't have great games - it was a lot of pressure.

Anyone else have trades or drafts to chat about?

[RedKarma]

Favre retires!

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/03/04/1/

[neglet]

Wow. A class guy, a giant in the game, he goes out on his terms. The NFL will never be the same--I don't think we'll see any QB ever match his consecutive games played streak.

Make a date for Canton in five years.

[DarkJedi]

Damn, its going to take getting used to not seeing Favre in uniform every Sunday.

[TrekSucksHard]

As a Bears fan I'm somewhat elated that Farve has retired, he used to pwn us a lot back in the 90's and early 2000- but in the last few seasons the Bears have finally gotten the better of him- he's a great QB though and my hat's off to him.

What's going on with the free agent spending sprees of the Raiders and Jets- does anyone actually think they will get better this season? Has Alzeimer Davis finally lost it? I heard he gets fed Gerber baby food and has to be burped by Art Schell... :eyebrow:

[RedKarma]

They played some of Favre's press conference on the radio. Eee gads, but I feel like crying myself.

When he started getting really choked up talking about the team, you can hear about a thousand strobes flashing in his face.

Poor Brett, it's tough to leave and even tougher with those media scum hawking you when you're vulnerable.

[DarkJedi]

It's like TSH says above...Even fans of teams he royally screwed over respects him..I think that's the biggest thing on Favre. My brother in law is a hardcore Niner fan and we remember the Packers and the Niners in the 90s...even if they're not divisional rivals. But over the last few years, even the bro in law softened on him.

As a NFL fan first (and a Chiefs fans second), I will never....ever.....ever...forget that Packers-Raiders game a day after he lost his father.

But it's not just that. Favre, even if he beat our favorite teams, embodied the NFL spirit that we like in a lot of cases.

I mean, even if he wasn't on our teams, as NFL fans, we could respect him for the love he gave for the game. He was like a big kid on the field throughout his career.

I think it's really shitty thinking about him out of the game and I like how he was honest in that press conference...i.e "I'm not going to say I have no regrets about retiring..and that I won't be thinking still 'I could do that' on Sundays..."

That's another thing too. In our Free Agency age, we hear so much about QBs who spent their careers with one team only to end it with another...Joe Montana, Warren Moon and Drew Bledsoe spring to mind. Brett hasn't done that...unless he comes back out of retirement and I don't think he will. That's to be respected as well.

Some part of me wishes he was still playing...but I like how he went out this week. That's cool too.

[RedKarma]

I saw a friend the other day that I hadn't seen in a little while. I asked him "How are you hold up on Sundays, with no football on?"

He says to me "I watch golf."

OK, I can see playing golf. It's social & good exercise, so even if you suck you still get benefits from it.

But watching golf to me is boring, second only to watching tennis. And as far as a off season substitute for the NFL - no. I've never seen anyone whip a beer can across the room and scream bloody murder because somebody missed a putt.

The closest replacement I could ever find for the NFL during off season was rugby. And now that I don't have cable, I clean the house. Last weekend I cleaned out the fridge. It was still better than watching golf.

[neglet]

Good God, save me from weekends where the only thing to watch is golf or NASCAR. Look! Maybe you can see the little ball go up and down! Ooo! Cars going in circles! Wow! That's why I have a DVD player in my workroom. When its not a football weekend or March Madness, that's what I watch.

But hey, it's only a month until draft day! I'm crazy enough that I'll watch the early rounds. It's like cookie crumbs when you're on a diet.

[omicron]

Well, there's always Arena Football. And NHL is coming down to the wire towards the playoffs. I do occasionally watch PGA, but usually only if Tiger's playing. Cmon, this last weekend when Tiger won it by draining a 25ft birdie on 18 was amazing.

Just to make Negs feel a little better, why don't you read about Peter King's take on Matt Millen's draft record with the Lions (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/03/16/draft/1.html)? :lol:

Just think about it this way. .268 isn't bad for a batting average. :) :smirk:

[omicron]

There's some interesting draft scenarios in King's latest column (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/03/21/mmqb/index.html). He's got the Cowboys trading up to 4 to get Darren McFadden.

I don't see them doing this. MB3 has been a great back, and they got rid of Julius to avoid all the confusion about who's the lead back.

He also makes the hypothetical of Ocho Cinco(Chad Johnson) getting pissy with Cincy, and being traded to Dallas next year. How'd you like to line up against TO and CJ??

Ah, to dream away waiting for the Draft in a month.....

[RedKarma]

Did anyone else catch Hershel Walker on one of the AM yakk shows this morning?

He and his out-country doctor are claiming he's got multiple personality disorder. I didn't catch all of it, but I guess he's trying to blame a domestic problem on the "other" guy.

Mind you, the debate still rages in psychiatric communities as to whether this condition exists at all.

[omicron]

Looks like Chad Johnson is really pressing to get out of Cincinnatti.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3349761

And Housh says "don't let the door hit you in the ass"

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3351518

[RedKarma]

Ugly business indeed.

[TrekSucksHard]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10794009

Chiefs trade Jared Allen to Vikes? :headscratch:

Wow, what a headscratcher that is- it seems the Chiefs are in rebuilding mode year after year, Allen was their best player- he is young and has got a lot of years ahead of him so trading him away to me seems kinda boneheaded.

[omicron]

I heard today on the radio that Allen had gotten into some trouble(a couple of DUIs) and the Chief's president called him out and Allen then responded that he would never sign a longterm deal.

I guess they decided to part ways rather than be adversarial for the next few years. :Dunno:

[neglet]

See, kids? Staying in school does pay off!

U-M's Jake Long signs contract worth $57.75 million as #1 pick. (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080423/SPORTS06/804230419/1053/SPORTS05)

[DarkJedi]

Fucks sake..

My Chiefs......They get rid of players last year..

And now, Jared Allen.

Wtf...

*sigh* Are we going to end up worst than the Raiders?!?!

Please draft...Please draft....P.l.e.a.s.e draft, show me the light on the horizon..

[omicron]

Looks like my Cowboys got Pacman finally. Now all they have to do is get him reinstated and keep him away from all the strip clubs on Northwest Highway. :)

[RedKarma]

Draft stuff. Verrrry interesting. :D

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsessionid=8C427427771086189437705D0DB6DA13? id=09000d5d807f0597&template=with-video&confirm=true

[TrekSucksHard]

Well I think too many people count on the draft as a way to turn things around but you gotta realize that rookies rarely make immediate impact and in fact quite a few turn out to be busts- I would rather go with proven guys so I'm still shaking my head with the Chiefs over the Allen deal.

[TrekSucksHard]

JESUS F CHRIST- After all the draft picks they have, da Bears didn't draft a QB??? Do they honestly think Wrecks Gross-Man is their QB of the future? WTF?! :Angry:

[neglet]

I knew I would see you in here bitching about no QB today!

As for the Lions, I'm just glad they didn't waste a high pick on a WR. I'm a little disappointed they didn't take Rashard Mendenhall when he was available, but I can't deny they need serious O-line help.

[RedKarma]

JESUS F CHRIST- After all the draft picks they have, da Bears didn't draft a QB??? Do they honestly think Wrecks Gross-Man is their QB of the future? WTF?! :Angry:

We're SO screwed. I think we all knew this would happen after they let Griese go. Why they keep giving Grossman more chances I have no idea, maybe he has mob ties.

And no, I'm NOT sure that last comment was a joke. :headscratch:

[sickness]

Well, now we get to wait and see how my 9ers picks work out now that they've cut the head coach out of drafting and returned the decision to management that really doesn't know football that well.

By what I saw in the draft, let's put it this way: if everything works out as planned, we'll have one great player on each segment of the team but there will still be holes in the other positions. In other words, we'll still need major O-line and defensive secondary help. :mad:

[RedKarma]

NFL Withdrawl Symptoms

Stage 1
* Cold, clammy hands unless touching pigskin.
* Frequent and urgent need to use remote to "flip to the game" on Sundays.
* Strong desire to wear football jersey to bed.

Stage 2
* Sleep interrupted by shouts of "What down is it?! What down is it?!"
* Inability to load any game other than John Madden's into game console.
* Driving is not recommended. Patient will repeatedly stop at high school football field and try to ref imaginary games.

Stage 3
* Vision becomes impaired by floating helmets.
* Patient unresponsive to friends & family members unless addressed as "Coach".
* Patient will only be lured from home with promises of "box seats".



*RK crawls from the room with eyes tightly shut against floating NFC helmets*

[TrekSucksHard]

"Three more months, Tony"
-Alejandro Sosa

:smirk:

[omicron]

Specter criticizes NFL, wants independent Spygate investigation (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3395829)

Honestly, if I was Goodell, I'd tell him to kiss my ass and show me what jurisdiction he has. This is an internal matter of a private corporation. No laws were broken. :mad:

[TrekSucksHard]

Damn right- Spector ought to focus on problems with Iraq and the economy. If he doesn't like the way the NFL is run then he ought to start up his own league.

[sickness]

Fixing a legitimate sporting contest, perhaps? One that's bet on, no less? That doesn't strike anyone here as something that might -- just maybe -- stoke Congress' interest just a little bit?

[RedKarma]

54 days until pre-season begins, 85 days until regular season begins on Thursday, Sept 4.

If anyone has access to a time machine, contact me immediately!

[omicron]

Almost time to start putting together my Fantasy Football draft sheets. :)

[TrekSucksHard]

I'm happy CeDrink Benson drank himself out of a job (now if he only took along Rex Grossman instead of his GF and ran the car into a tree and they both broke their necks I'd be very happy instead of just mildly happy). :smirk:

[RedKarma]

I don't want Grossman dead, I just want him to be someone else's problem, like Miami. Of course, I'll probably change that opinion right about during the first game of the season.

I don't know it sounded to me like those boat cops were out to get Benson. Getting "pulled over" 6 times? That's a hint and a half for your ass to either go find something else to do with your family & friends, or drop you at the pier and let them party without you. I would have after the second time the cops pulled me over. The DUI, well, that's different.

Was Benson the same Bear who crashed his super sports car on 94 at some God awful hour and left it there? If so then yeah, it sounds like the man has a problem with alcohol.

[TrekSucksHard]

I think you may be referring to Lance Briggs, RK.

And no, I don't want Rex dead- just crippled would be fine with me. :D

[RedKarma]

And no, I don't want Rex dead- just crippled would be fine with me. :D


:lol:

[omicron]

Goodell states rookie pay 'ridiculous' (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3463911)

Say what you will about pro athelete's salaries, but I have a problem giving a 21yr kid fresh out of college a guaranteed 30M. After a couple of years, when they've proven they're NFL caliber players, pay them as such.

I am sure the NFLPA is going to love this :)

[sickness]

The worst part of it is that teams will actually agree to such deals. Owners have no one to blame but themselves when they hold all the cards. How often do all top 10 picks from a single year beome HOF candidate stars? Really, these guys are not worth the money but it won't change as long as ownership is willing to dole out the dough for a "maybe" at best.

The league has no one but its own membership to blame for this.

[omicron]

Brett Favre wants to come back, and not to the Packers. Where will he end up? Minnesota, Baltimore, Tampa Bay?

[sickness]

Find the lowest ranking team, farthest under their cap with a double-arm amputee at QB (or a guy who can't complete to save his life... but they're basically the same thing) and that's where Favre is going. Bet on it.

[neglet]

Tacky, tacky, tacky. Mark my words, if Favre comes back, it ain't gonna be pretty.

[omicron]

Looks like it's getting ugly already. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775)

Favre wants released, Packers don't want to do it.
He says he was pressured to retire, they say it was his decision and they want to move forward with Aaron Rogers.

This should be interesting. :)

[RedKarma]

It's probably a coincidence, but shopping last weekend I noticed a rack filled of Bears' football jerseys....right next to a whole rack of Green Bay jerseys sporting #4. While it's not unusual to see that sort of thing near the WI border, I was at the time several counties removed from the border.

A Trib reporter this weekend said he couldn't picture Favre in a Bears jersey. I think the reporter was a pud, I'd take anything, anyone, any species over what the Bears are sportin' now.

Watch out Rex Grossman, me or TrekSucksHard are likely to do unmentionable things to you, and not the good kind of unmentionable things.

[TrekSucksHard]

Wow, check this out- it seems Brett is planning to crash the Pack minicamp:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Apkh0Hr5fS1BfUXgMGLRXtZDubYF?slug=ap-packers-favre&prov=ap&type=lgns

I must say that I have lost a lot of respect for Farve- if he really didn't want to retire then why did he announce it IN THE FIRST PLACE?! He really puts the Pack management in a bad position and not to mention he's just screwed Aaron Rodgers big time. I thought he was a man of honor and commitment but it seems that he is actually a whiny primadonna douchebag who just seems to love attention. He single handedly lost the NFC championship against the Giants with a Grossman-like throw to the opposite team- what a maroon.

Of course, if the Bears just happen to get him I will take everything I previously said back. :wink:

[omicron]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3498795

Shockey traded to the Saints.

I've always thought Shockey was overrated, but he might be a good fix in Nawlins. They don't have a great set of WRs.

[TrekSucksHard]

Now this is just plain funny- seems Brett Favre called the Vikings using a GB PACKERS cell phone. LMAO. :lol:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aq0MXhOIMCBLJZBJ9qsUJWNDubYF?slug=txfavr etampering&prov=st&type=lgns

How stupid has this become? Was Brett hit with too many concussions? What a moron- so it wasn't the Vikings coaching staff who tampered with Brett Favre but instead it was actually Favre himself- and Sports Illustrated named him Sportsman of the Year last year?

Now if the Bears had any brains they would trade SeeDrink Benson (pity they cut him) and Wrecks Gross-man for this old fart- he may be dumb as a doorknob but he can throw better than Wrecks.

[omicron]

In his defense, he probably thought he was retired, so it didn't matter who he talked to. Also, being a rich athlete/celeb, he's got accountants and agents and handlers, so he probably has no idea who's paying his cell bill.

[TrekSucksHard]

He might have said he was retired but to call up an opposing team (plus a conference rival) to talk about coming back while still technically under contract with the Pack when he told everyone he was done (via a teary-eyed press conference, I might add), then going on FAUX News saying that the Packers management forced him to retire and using a cellphone supplied by the Pack seems pretty boneheaded to me- it kills his image as an honorable guy.

And as for Bears news- now Devin Hester is holding out! Please ante up and pay the guy, Angelo.

[neglet]

Not sure this guy would have made the team, but sounds like the Army's jerking yet another soldier around: Army revises policy, tells Lions draft pick he can't play. (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080724/SPORTS01/807240380)

[omicron]

Sounds like Favre might be talking to the Jets.
This would be good for the Packers(Non NFC team)
Good for the Jets(See: Pennington, Chad)
Good for the NFL(NY big market team)

Not sure how good for Favre. I don't really think the Jets are a contender, although they did go 10-6 a couple of years ago.

[TrekSucksHard]

Recent reports say that Brett is willing to go with any team- just wants to play again... and the Bears are interested in Chris Simms??? WTF?! Angelo, if you don't at least make and effort to go get Favre (I doubt if the Vikes will get him, no cap room but the Bears still are $13 M in the black so they could get Brett) then you are a total ****!:mad:

[sickness]

Anyone who thinks the Pack is going to let him go to a division rival is DREAMING.

[omicron]

I don't know if they'll have a choice. It seems that Favre and the NFL are determined to have him play this year. If the only viable contenders are Minn or Chi, then they'll force GB to trade him there.

Personally if I was GB, I'd tell Favre tough titties. You either go to where we can trade you, or your ass sits on the bench. You retired, you go through this drama queen situation every offseason, we've moved on.

[sickness]

Well, since the time you posted this, it seems as though he has become a lock for either NYJ or TB. We'll see what happens.

I think GB will tell him to go to hell as you suggest if he's going to stomp his feet and insist on playing for a division rival this season. His unfavorable number in Wisconsin has shot through the roof in recent weeks, up from 7% at retirement to 34% last week with his favorable taking a precipitous drop from 73% to 43% or somesuch. He's got no leverage no matter how much the league might support him. In the end, trades within a division at the demand of a star player can only happen with the support of the fans.

[omicron]

Looks like I was right.

Brett's a Jet (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3522971)

[The Tyrant Virus]

As much as I (always) want the Steelers to get to the Super Bowl, how hilarious would a Green Bay vs. New York Jets Super Bowl be?

[TrekSucksHard]

The Packers management better hope that Aaron Rodgers doesn't choke or else their jobs might just be in jeopardy. I can't believe they let Favre go and they are going to gamble with an untested QB like that.

[sickness]

The Packers management better hope that Aaron Rodgers doesn't choke or else their jobs might just be in jeopardy. I can't believe they let Favre go and they are going to gamble with an untested QB like that.

An untested QB who they spent a first-round pick on? A QB who is not at the end of his career? It wouldn't be the first time that a replacement for a legend sucked (see Smith, Alex) and it, even combined with the sour grapes between the team and Brett on his departure, certainly will not form a chopping block for management. It may for Rodgers but not management. Shee-it. They went to the NFC Championship just last season and lost to the team that schooled New England. They can't be doing that bad a job.

But I think Rodgers has had a great mentor in Favre and he'll at least not make the team explode. He's a wildcard but he's better than milking one or two more seasons out of a guy who clearly is on the verge of true retirement whether he wans to admit it or not. Always gotta be looking down the road.

[TrekSucksHard]

Brett Favre is not at the end of his career- he took the Packers to the NFC championship, I believe he has a good two years left. This whole affair is nothing more than an ego trip by TT, he couldn't swallow his pride and welcome Favre back so instead he gets rid of him and takes a gamble on Rodgers just because he already made a verbal commitment that he was the starter. All he could have done was say, "Brett is back and we have a competition at QB." But his ego wouldn't let him.

Favre is the Green Bay Packers- he was the one difference all these years- I remember the Packers before he came in, they were nothing more than mediocre as the Bears and Vikes ruled the division back then, looks like that will happen again- if hopefully the Bears will get their sh*t together...

[sickness]

A couple years left in him after 16? I'd call that being at the end of his career. GB is doing a smart thing and looking to the future. Favre was doing the selfish thing and trying to hold the team hostage to his demands to play until he goes out on a nasty injury and Rodgers is not prepared to take over because he's been forced to sit on the bench for another 2 years. If they've managed to keep him at all in that scenario.

[RedKarma]

Ah, the great thing about watching pre-season is you can get a chance to watch your team, and then walk away because none of this matters.

So with a few pre-season games under our belts, how are your teams looking?

Any predections for your favorite teams?

And is it true with cable you are only seeing 4 games more than I am with my antenna?

[TrekSucksHard]

Sadly I don't think the Bears will do much this season- waay too many problems on offense (the o-line, RBs, WRs and of course, the QBs). I predict 8-8 or at my most optimistic at 10-6.

I hope Lovie Smith finally gets his head out of his a$$ and designates Kyle Orton as the starter- the offense needs focus and this constant QB circus needs to end (so that they can get to work on their other problems...). Then trade Wrecks Grossman for anybody (preferably an offensive lineman) and grab Chris Simms once the Bucs cut him.

I hope Favre does well with the Jets and hope Rodgers chokes in GB. :eyebrow:

[neglet]

Lions have beaten both the champion Giants and the not-so-champion Bengals, and looked decent doing it. Maybe in his second year, coach Marinelli is getting the guys he needs for his system. Maybe we can break .500 this year, that would be new for us.

[omicron]

They need to get their running game going. It's not good when your 3rd string QB is the leading rusher for the game. :)

[neglet]

Hey, I can't fix everything all at once. (At least, that's Matt Millen's excuse over the past seven years. :p)

[RedKarma]

Sadly I don't think the Bears will do much this season- waay too many problems on offense (the o-line, RBs, WRs and of course, the QBs). I predict 8-8 or at my most optimistic at 10-6.



Mr. Karma thought 10-6 for Da Bears this season too. I'll split the difference between you & go 9-7.

So glad Kyle got the top spot, I was liking Hainey (sp?) too, and the O line looks improved in pre season play. I hope the O gets a bit better, there are some devastating defences out there.

So how 'bout everyone else? Predictions for your teams? Anyone got a few words on promising new players?

Omi how the 'Boys looking this year?

Any news out of Chiefs territory, DJ?



Come on, don't be shy, predictions and stuff welcome. :D

[omicron]

I wasn't too worried until I started watching the preseason games. It doesn't appear the Cowboys are doing too good. I am worried that they might be buying into the hype they are getting as the best team in the NFC. Hopefully they will get their heads into the game and just play to their potential.

[neglet]

I'm going out on a limb and saying .500 for the Lions, 8-8.

[sickness]

If the 9ers get their QB sitch straightened out (Alex Smith is either the man or he is off to another team... but then there's the new guy vs. the guy who gave the best performance of all three QB's last year and has gained a multi-year multimillion dollar deal for it: Shaun Hill), I can see them going 8-8 just on having that settled. 10-6 seems like a real possibility if they keep improving the way they have been so far what with Mike Martz coming in and already making a major impact on the offense.

[omicron]

Sickness, if the 9ers win more than 6 games I'll be surprised.
They have to play Seattle twice, plus the NFC east and New England.

Plus they are starting JT O'Sullivan, which sounds like it should be the name of a chain resturant. Not to mention he has been in the league for 7 years and with 7 different teams and has NO starts.

[sickness]

Can't be worse than Alex Smith. I'm still wondering what happened to last year's hero, Shaun Hill, though. How did the guy who gave the only solid performance at QB last season end up 3rd behind a lackluster free agent and an overpaid underperformer who should be traded or cut by now?

Seattle sucks balls. Haven't been the same since they lost the Super Bowl.

New England is on their way down, especially since they can't cheat anymore what with the League having eyes on them at al times. Dynasties only last so long. Besides, that's only one game.

With Martz on board, I could see them doing 8-8 realistically. After all, St. Louis and Arizona are in their division. That's 4 wins right there.

[JarrodSarafin]

RK, I'm full expecting the Chiefs to suck dingo balls this season.

My long time owner dies...What does his son do? Oh, let's get rid of Trent Green (that was probably a wise move after the fact), get rid of Dante Hall, pay Larry Johnson too much money...

And to top it all off....Let's trade Jared Allen!

Yay! (Feel the hatred inside me.)

I guess the good thing about expecting to suck is there is only one direction to go from there as a fan.

Up, right?

Right?!?!

I mean, we can't suck any more than the Raiders. At least, we should be above the Raiders. If we hit last place in the AFC West, we will have sunk to new lows. Lose more than the Raiders? Now, that's low...

I will be happy with a 9-7 season...but I seriously doubt it's happening.

This season is shaping up to be wonderful for me. I get to listen to my older sister go on and on about the Cowboys (after 29 years of listening to my father go on and on about the Cowboys) while watching my team suffer. Bring on binge drinking during football!

[Gentlemen Death]

Well Jarrod, if you get Madden you can have the Chiefs ALWAYS WIN!!! :D

[JarrodSarafin]

lol So not true..The Chiefs on Madden will reflect the Chiefs in real life.

They will suck.

Unless I cheat. :D

[Gentlemen Death]

Hey, I was wondering if we were going to do the NFL Picks we did last year? I believe they were over on Yahoo?:headscratch:

[neglet]

Just set up a group. See my Pick 'Em thread.

[RedKarma]

Ee gads, I forgot to post our first week of love, I mean life, I mean sex. No I mean, beer, then sex.

OK I have to focus.

THE FIRST WEEK OF NFL FOOTBALL!!!



WEEK 1

Sun, Sep 07 Time (EST)
DET @ ATL 1:00 PM FOX
CIN @ BAL 1:00 PM CBS
SEA @ BUF 1:00 PM FOX
NYJ @ MIA 1:00 PM CBS
KC @ NE 1:00 PM CBS
TB @ NO 1:00 PM FOX
STL @ PHI 1:00 PM FOX
HOU @ PIT 1:00 PM CBS
JAC @ TEN 1:00 PM CBS
DAL @ CLE 4:15 PM FOX
CAR @ SD 4:15 PM FOX
ARI @ SF 4:15 PM FOX
CHI @ IND 8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Sep 08 Time (EST)
MIN @ GB 7:00 PM ESPN
DEN @ OAK 10:15 PM ESPN
Byes: None


Apologies for missing last Thursday night's game (Washington @ Giants). Here's next week schedule & bonus Monday night in advance.

WEEK 2
Sun, Sep 14 Time (EST)
CHI @ CAR 1:00 PM FOX
TEN @ CIN 1:00 PM CBS
GB @ DET 1:00 PM FOX
BUF @ JAC 1:00 PM CBS
OAK @ KC 1:00 PM CBS
IND @ MIN 1:00 PM CBS
NYG @ STL 1:00 PM FOX
NO @ WAS 1:00 PM FOX
SF @ SEA 4:05 PM FOX
ATL @ TB 4:05 PM FOX
MIA @ ARI 4:15 PM CBS
SD @ DEN 4:15 PM CBS
BAL @ HOU 4:15 PM CBS
NE @ NYJ 4:15 PM CBS
PIT @ CLE 8:15 PM NBC


Mon, Sep 15 Time (EST)
PHI @ DAL 8:30 PM ESPN
Byes: None


* All of RK's NFL Schedule information comes to you via NFL.com *

LET..THE GAMES...BEGIN!!

[JarrodSarafin]

And there goes Tom Brady..

Sigh...thanks a lot Chiefs. You not only get to screw me over as a fan of your team, you also get to injure my Fantasy QB.

[Gentlemen Death]

And there goes Tom Brady..

Sigh...thanks a lot Chiefs. You not only get to screw me over as a fan of your team, you also get to injure my Fantasy QB.

Yeah, I am interested to see what is going to happen with the Patriots now that their star player is out. I am sure with Brady's injury that most of the other teams will have a sigh of relief.

Also, you gotta give props to Farve with his game today. It seems like he is still on top of it....Then again, it IS only the first game of the season.:smirk:

[TrekSucksHard]

It's the Superbowl loser curse, I tells ya- it happened to the Bears last year when almost the entire defense went down with injuries (if only it happened to Grossman instead we would have still been in the hunt last season!). I still imagine at times that if only Griese or Orton had played in the SB we would have won it...

Da Bears won against Indy!!!! :lol:

Now if we could just trade Grossman for a WR- it seems our o-line is started to gel, thank God.

[omicron]

Cowboys stomped the brownies, as expected. Romo looked good, let's hope he can keep it up. And I'm not referring to Jessica Simpson. :lol:

[neglet]

Aaaaand the Lions take less than half a quarter to get me to say, "Same Old Lions." They give up a 50-plus yard TD pass to a rookie QB, then give up a 60-plus TD run, then allow another quick score to go down 21-0. Against the Falcons, who totally sucked last year. Blech.

[sickness]

So, are you still a fan of Matt Millen's draft strategy? :D

As for me... it's going to be a VERY long season unless Mike Martz is still figuring out what his best weapons are and how to use them.

[Gentlemen Death]

Well, good news for us non-patriots fans is that we do not have to deal with people kissing the hell out of Brady's ass for the rest of the season...BUT if you have a friend who likes the Partriots then they already have their excuse ready, "Well, Brady would have made that touchdown." or "Well, they lost because Brady was not playing."

Alright, here are the weeks standings so far!

Omicron's Brew Crew 10
Neglet's Picks 09
LetsNotSuckChiefs 09
Dr.DigIt 09
Zombie Apocalypse 08


(http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/pickem/62708/2)

[neglet]

As for me... it's going to be a VERY long season unless Mike Martz is still figuring out what his best weapons are and how to use them.

Um, yeah, good luck with that. :lol:

[Gentlemen Death]

Jarrod...I am not trying to be a dick or anything but I got the Oak and KC game....What the hell was going on with your team!?!? :confused:

[neglet]

Yeah, they suck worse than the Lions, and that's saying something.

[TrekSucksHard]

Gah, the Bears lost a close one- I hate it when they lose a close one. :(

[sickness]

I think the Niners are going to try to shave 10 years off my life this season.

Fits and starts of a wildcard team today but they have me so worried with all their screw-ups!

[JarrodSarafin]

lol I'm glad I didn't get to watch that Chiefs game...

That seems to be the one positive from Hurricane Ike. I'm in South Houston...I just got my power and water back 45 minutes ago..

Yes...5 days of sweating...fighting off mosquitos...and showering with Ozarka water...

But at least I didn't see the Chiefs implode more.

*Ike can't hold me down*

[RedKarma]

Glad you've got power and getting back to normal JS. A friend of mine posted his experience after he got back online yesterday and it sounded awful in Houston, let alone the madness in Galveston. He did say that there seemed to be a lot of people pulling together to help friends, neighbors, and strangers alike which is always inspiring to hear. Anyway, glad you made it through OK, hope things get up and running for you and your neighbors quickly.

Where was I? Ah, yes, football! :D

WEEK 3

Sun, Sep 21 Time (EST)/Network
KC @ ATL............1:00 PM CBS
OAK @ BUF.........1:00 PM CBS
TB @ CHI.............1:00 PM FOX
CAR @ MIN..........1:00 PM FOX
MIA @ NE............1:00 PM CBS
CIN @ NYG..........1:00 PM CBS
HOU @ TEN.........1:00 PM CBS
ARI @ WAS.........1:00 PM FOX
NO @ DEN...........4:05 PM FOX
DET @ SF............4:05 PM FOX
STL @ SEA..........4:05 PM FOX
CLE @ BAL..........4:15 PM CBS
JAC @ IND...........4:15 PM CBS
PIT @ PHI............4:15 PM CBS
DAL @ GB...........8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Sep 22 Time (EST)/Network
NYJ @ SD............8:30 PM..ESPN

[omicron]

Yay, ODJ is back!

Man we got hardly anything here in Dallas. I was out mowing my lawn on Sunday.

Oh yeah, HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS?!!:lol:

[JarrodSarafin]

Heh, you lucky bastard Omi. I wish it was the same down here.

Thanks Red and Omi, just blogged about my experience at my Mania official blog (http://www.mania.com/JarrodSarafin/blog/09/2008/hurricane-ike-experience_blog_638.html)..

Needless to say, it was a harrowing experience. The 5 days without air conditioning was the worse for me though.

And I truly feel for those people in Galveston and Bolivar. Bolivar in particular is nearly wiped out. There's going to be a lot of unconfirmed dead from that area for whoever stayed since they were likely washed out to sea. My heart goes to them.

Galveston will likely be a dark city for months as they pick up the pieces too.

[WISEGUY562]

Jarrod, thanks.
It's heartbreaking to hear that. I just don't understand why people would stick around, especially after authorities told people that stayed to write the ss # on their arms so they can be identified. It'll probably be months before we know the exact toll in lives. Pity

And Dallas goes almost untouched? Too bad the Cowboys didn't get washed out to sea :(

They will be scalped next week by my boys

[TrekSucksHard]

GODDDAMN IITTTTTT!!!

Another heartbreaking loss and now I'm at the end of my rope. :mad:

I'm boycotting the 6 forums I post in till the stupid Bears start winning again!!! :goodbye:

[Gentlemen Death]

Negs....I am sorry for the loss....that was a tough game to watch...

On a brighter note, REDSKINS WON!!! :D

[sickness]

GODDDAMN IITTTTTT!!!

Another heartbreaking loss and now I'm at the end of my rope. :mad:

I'm boycotting the 6 forums I post in till the stupid Bears start winning again!!! :goodbye:

Here's to hoping for an 0-16 season for DA BEARS!!!

[sickness]

Ummm... As a 49er fan, I'm not sorry for that loss. Or Kitna's leg.

But as a football fan and a human being, I hope Kitna recovers during the bye Detroit gives their division a run for their money. It sucks to see your team be down in the dumps all the time. I know from experience.

[evilbeagle]

I thought my Chiefs looked bad last week, and now they get smoked by a rookie and the Falcons! Good God!

I'm finding myself missing Marty-ball from the 90's--or even Vermeil's shootouts minus defense. At least during both of those era's one side of the ball was working.

I'm finding myself rooting for the Bills, and I fucking hate the Bills!

[The Tyrant Virus]

Well, our offensive line started to show its true colors today. Back to last season's level of suckiness.

Man, they didn't give Ben half a second to throw the ball before they let the guys through to sack him. Sigh.

[omicron]

I watched the battle of Pennsylvania and man, did the Eagles ever pummel the Steelers. Which was bad cause I had Ward and Parker starting on one of my fantasy teams. :(

I think the Chiefs and Rams might be the two worst teams in the NFL.

[neglet]

Here's to hoping for an 0-16 season for DA BEARS!!!

Impossible. They play the Lions twice.

And I think now, the puddy tats are giving the Chiefs and the Rams a run for their money.

[WISEGUY562]

Plus the Bears already won a game. They beat the snot out of Indy the first game.

I feel really bad for all the folks from Missouri, all the floods they suffered through this year and now the Chiefs and Rams are a national disaster themselves. If it wasn't for college ball there'd be mass suicide over there.

[JarrodSarafin]

Damn right...As a Chiefs fan, I have only this to say..

*grabs drums and crowd*

"Let's go Draft Pick!"

*beats drum*

"Let's go Draft Pick!"

*beats drum*

"Let's go...

And dammit, I forgot to pick the winners in our Pickem League...Son of a ...

[neglet]

Even worse, I did pick the winners in our Pickem League, but somehow didn't save them so none of them counted.

But I will join you in regarding the rest of the season as the RACE FOR #1 (draft pick, that is)!

[JarrodSarafin]

Isn't it a lovely feeling...Three weeks in and already resigned? Sigh...

Watch...just watch...Our teams will somehow get energy by week 12...win the last four games straight and all we'll end up doing is shooting ourselves in the foot for the #1 pick.

I'd rather get the #1 pick than four victories. Don't let me down Chiefs.

[WISEGUY562]

Is there somebody out there right now that stands out as the #1 pick?
I guess Tim Tebow maybe, still early in the season. That #1 pick can be a blessing or a curse. Sometimes you wager your future and it may be 2-4 years before you realize it was a bust and you're back to square 1.

[whitetemplar78]

omg, being a Lions fan is somekind of punishment, I swear, like Karma beating my hopes and dreams to ash for some past sin I committed....ugggghhhh.......DAMNITTTTTT

30 FUCKING YEARS IVE GIVEN THEM,, AND WHAT DO I HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT??!??!?!?! NOOOOTTTHHHHINNNNGGGGG!!! AHHHHHHHHHH

For Godsakes my parents can't remember a Championship season, and they are in their 60's!!!! Jerrod im sorry for yah, but hey at least the Chiefs have had some winning seasons in the not too distant past, under Matt Millin the Tabby Cats have had a 31-84 record!! omg my highschool team could beat them right now!!! But hey lets break out the betting now, cause I have a nice crisp $20 that says my good ole Lions are going for the 1 spot in the draft where they can pick a nice reciever...AGAIN. (picks up drum)

Lets go Hockey season

*thump thump*

Lets go hockey season

*thump thump*.......

[JarrodSarafin]

Is there somebody out there right now that stands out as the #1 pick?
I guess Tim Tebow maybe, still early in the season. That #1 pick can be a blessing or a curse. Sometimes you wager your future and it may be 2-4 years before you realize it was a bust and you're back to square 1.

That is very true, Wise. Definitely a lot of overpaid busts from #1 Draft Picks...*cough Ryan Leaf cough*

But I'll still take the #1 pick over 4 wins.

I'll take one victory...just so we escape that record. But I'd rather have the #1 pick in the hopes that the pick actually turns out okay. Offensive lineman or QB maybe...

Just saying..

I'm like my fellow Chief comrade EvilBeagle...I actually miss Marty ball.

Yes, I MISS going to playoffs and losing the first game every year. Why? Because at least we made it to the ruddy playoffs. At least, we showed up in our own HOME and won everytime. Denver-Chiefs matchups were fun to watch then. I'll never forget Elam kicking a 55+ yard fieldgoal to beat me in the late 90s. That bastard.

Basically, entertainment value. My current Chiefs hold no entertainment value..other than me laughing at their suckiness.

The Chargers were still wrong in firing Marty...Yes, thou heard me correctly TSH. :wink:

[neglet]

omg, being a Lions fan is somekind of punishment, I swear, like Karma beating my hopes and dreams to ash for some past sin I committed....ugggghhhh.......DAMNITTTTTT

30 FUCKING YEARS IVE GIVEN THEM,, AND WHAT DO I HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT??!??!?!?! NOOOOTTTHHHHINNNNGGGGG!!! AHHHHHHHHHH

For Godsakes my parents can't remember a Championship season, and they are in their 60's!!!! Jerrod im sorry for yah, but hey at least the Chiefs have had some winning seasons in the not too distant past, under Matt Millin the Tabby Cats have had a 31-84 record!! omg my highschool team could beat them right now!!! But hey lets break out the betting now, cause I have a nice crisp $20 that says my good ole Lions are going for the 1 spot in the draft where they can pick a nice reciever...AGAIN. (picks up drum)

Lets go Hockey season

*thump thump*

Lets go hockey season

*thump thump*.......

Are your parents really that old? Because mine can remember Bobby Layne and the Lions championship in 1957, although they were in high school at the time. And it's not like we have NOTHING to show for the past fifty years, we did beat the Cowboys in the playoffs one year. I mean, if you're only going to have one playoff win in 50 years, beating the Cowboys makes it almost worth it. That's my highlight, and I'm ten years older than you.

But yes, thank God hockey and basketball season starts soon. And maybe something will happen and Bill Ford Jr. will take over the Puddytats: He already says Millen should be canned. (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080922/COL01/80922087)

[WISEGUY562]

I really don't feel too bad for you Detroit fans.
Sure the football team sucks, they were pretty good through some of Barry Sanders' years and last year they fooled us all into thinking they were up and coming. Until the big man fires Millen they'll continue to mire in the mud.

But you guys have the Wings and the Pistons both of which have had more than their share of success lately. And although the Tigers took a dive this year they've been pretty good. Though no championships in I don't know how long, 84?

[WISEGUY562]

Jarrod,
I liked Marty as well but how many years can you just settle for the playoffs? That's why I didn't disagree with that move. And the Chargers just looked at history and decided to act while the team still has a chance. Norv, who I hate, almost got them there last year.

Marty had some good teams on his run at KC. I would've wanted more.
Still remember the game against Seatle, when they were in the same division. DT (may he rest in peace) had 8 sacks I believe in that game but barely missed getting his ninth which was the play that cost them the game. One of the better games ever

[whitetemplar78]

Are your parents really that old? Because mine can remember Bobby Layne and the Lions championship in 1957, although they were in high school at the time. And it's not like we have NOTHING to show for the past fifty years, we did beat the Cowboys in the playoffs one year. I mean, if you're only going to have one playoff win in 50 years, beating the Cowboys makes it almost worth it. That's my highlight, and I'm ten years older than you.

But yes, thank God hockey and basketball season starts soon. And maybe something will happen and Bill Ford Jr. will take over the Puddytats: He already says Millen should be canned. (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080922/COL01/80922087)

My dad was born in '47, and my mom in '48, so thats why they can't remember any championships they were both little uns when the Lions last held glory in their hands. Oh, and I do agree taking out the Cowboys does feel good, and im sure I can squeeze a couple more years of gloating out of that, but uhhhggg I would like to at least make it to a Super Bowl, they don't even have to win, just go!!...lol, and Yah I saw how Billy boy jr was talking smack bout Millen and I hope that prods his dad into doing somthing buttttt I doubt it, the Fords run the lions as well as they run their car company...... and I love the name Puddytats...had me laughing milk up through my nose...lol

[sickness]

Plus the Bears already won a game. They beat the snot out of Indy the first game.

I feel really bad for all the folks from Missouri, all the floods they suffered through this year and now the Chiefs and Rams are a national disaster themselves. If it wasn't for college ball there'd be mass suicide over there.
Well, 1-15, then. I can always hope they lose to the Lions. :D

[RedKarma]

AGH. I'm having either nightmares or flashbacks from last year.

Something about Philly's D tearing the guts out of the Bears O line, then showing the Bears their own guts, then tossing said stinky entrails over their big green shoulders and having a mighty fine laugh about it. And a clown. Something about a scary clown.

Someone wake me for Week 6.

[omicron]

The long dark times are over for Negs and Whitetemplar.

Matt Millen removed as Lions team president, CEO
(http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3606294)

[neglet]

YIPPEE!!!

Of course, this just gives Ford Sr. the chance to hire another total loser.

[sickness]

Or he can pass the responsibilities to Marinelli and let him suck equally in both jobs like Wayne Fontes, Bobby Ross and that other dude.

[whitetemplar78]

ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!!! omg this some good news at last, but not to lessen the greatness of this news, but I have to ask, WHY DID IT TAKE SO DAMN LONG?!!!?!?! GOD FORD FAMILY WAKE UP, THIS IS WHY YOUR TEAM SUCKS, AND YOUR COMPANYS IN THE SHIT PIT, CAUSE YOU HAVE NOOOO CLUE!!.......ugghh got that off my chest, well may they surprise us all and make a good pick to replace him.....hah while im dreaming eh?.....

[neglet]

It will only make a difference if Ford Sr. "retires" and gives over control of the team to Ford Jr. I mean, what's the common denominator over the past 45 years? The owner, and too bad we can't fire him.

[RedKarma]

I;ve got a fever, and the only cure is more NFL! :lol:



WEEK 4
Sun, Sep 28 Time (EST)/Network
ATL @ CAR.........1:00 PM FOX
CLE @ CIN..........1:00 PM CBS
HOU @ JAC.........1:00 PM CBS
DEN @ KC...........1:00 PM CBS
SF @ NO .............1:00 PM FOX
ARI @ NYJ...........1:00 PM FOX
GB @ TB............ 1:00 PM FOX
MIN @ TEN..........1:00 PM FOX
SD @ OAK...........4:05 PM CBS
BUF @ STL..........4:05 PM CBS
WAS @ DAL........4:15 PM FOX
PHI @ CHI............8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Sep 29 Time (EST)/Network
BAL @ PIT............8:30 PM ESPN

Byes: Lions, Colts, Dolphins, Patriots, Giants, Seahawks

[Gentlemen Death]

Hey good job Jarrod, your Chiefs finally got a win!! lol

It sucks, I am not getting my Redskins playing the Cowboys.....fuckers.....:goodbye: :(

[TrekSucksHard]

Da BEARS WON! YEEEHAAA!!!

I'm BAAACK!!! :D


The Chargers were still wrong in firing Marty...Yes, thou heard me correctly TSH. :wink:
One question for ya, JS- who coached the Chargers last year and how far did they get?

Oh right, weren't you the one who also said that Supes Returns was a masterpiece? :smirk:
Here's to hoping for an 0-16 season for DA BEARS!!!
:mad:

I hope your entire Niners team crashes in their charter plane. :Mwahaha:

[JarrodSarafin]

Why didn't you get the Cowboys-Skins game, GD? Which game in your region superceded it?

Superman Returns was a masterpiece and Marty Ball rocks. Opinions and all that, TSH.

Still can't believe the Chiefs won a game. Perhaps it was a pride thing having lost the first home opener to Oakland. They couldn't lose two home games in a row to two division rivals. The fans would have booed them out of the state...

[WISEGUY562]

Jarrod there goes your #1 pick but the Rams look like they really deserve it, even more than Chiefs or Cincy.
LJ looked like he did 3 years ago.

Top news of the day however belong to my beloved REDSKINS
Sick of people already giving the Cowgirls the championship 3 games in.
Next week we clipping some Eagle wings baby.
History shows that Redskins win the SuperBowl year after Giants win it.
Ok I'm reaching but that's true and I'm holding on to that fact.

[Gentlemen Death]

Why didn't you get the Cowboys-Skins game, GD? Which game in your region superceded it?

Superman Returns was a masterpiece and Marty Ball rocks. Opinions and all that, TSH.

Still can't believe the Chiefs won a game. Perhaps it was a pride thing having lost the first home opener to Oakland. They couldn't lose two home games in a row to two division rivals. The fans would have booed them out of the state...

I live in northen cali, so of course I got the bay area games.... :(

[RedKarma]

Damn, I can't believe the Bear fans who were BOOING their own team while they were still ahead 21-20 because Orton couldn't get the first down. Then Hester had to get the fans fired up when they were stopping Philly at the goal line. What the hell people? If you aren't going to cheer for your team at least give me your damn tickets and I'll find someone who will. I can't believe that, booing your own team. DISGRACEFUL!

The O is dropping too many of Orton's passes. I hope they get better at this sooner rather than later.

[The Tyrant Virus]

Well, we won last night, but at what cost? Mendenhall and Simmons out for the season. That guy who got badly injured on the opening kickoff...I feel bad I can't remember his name. Players were getting hurt left and right all night. :(

[TrekSucksHard]

Damn, I can't believe the Bear fans who were BOOING their own team while they were still ahead 21-20 because Orton couldn't get the first down. Then Hester had to get the fans fired up when they were stopping Philly at the goal line. What the hell people? If you aren't going to cheer for your team at least give me your damn tickets and I'll find someone who will. I can't believe that, booing your own team. DISGRACEFUL!

The O is dropping too many of Orton's passes. I hope they get better at this sooner rather than later.
The O-line has a big problem against pass rushers though Orton hung on to the ball too long a number of times, I noticed. Offense needs to call more play action passes and screens and they should work on that.

I think we still have a chance but the offense (pass protection, stop dropping balls and Orton still has to work on his accuracy and fumbles) needs to improve. We seem OK on defense as long as there aren't too many injuries. I would rather bench Tommie Harris for a few games and let him heal since the teams we are gonna go up against are much weaker than the first four. With the Vikes going nowhere and Aaron Rodgers injured I think we got a chance to steal the division but we still need improvement!

[omicron]

Ok, so we're a quarter of the way in and we've lost 2 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3617977) coaches (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3617977) and a GM (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/SPORTS01/80924031/&imw=Y).

Who might be next? Cincy? Cleveland? KC?

[RedKarma]

WEEK 5

Sun, Oct 05 Time (EST)/Network
TEN @ BAL..........1:00 PM CBS
KC @ CAR...........1:00 PM CBS
CHI @ DET..........1:00 PM FOX
ATL @ GB...........1:00 PM FOX
IND @ HOU.........1:00 PM CBS
SD @ MIA...........1:00 PM CBS
SEA @ NYG.........1:00 PM FOX
WAS @ PHI.........1:00 PM FOX
TB @ DEN...........4:05 PM FOX
BUF @ ARI..........4:15 PM CBS
CIN @ DAL..........4:15 PM CBS
NE @ SF .............4:15 PM CBS
PIT @ JAC............8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Oct 06 Time (EST)/Network
MIN @ NO............8:30 PM ESPN

Byes: Browns, Jets, Raiders, Rams

[JarrodSarafin]

Haha...Way to go Chiefs.

Show pride last week...Show that you could bounce back for any of your fans with the smallest amount of hopes...or living in La-La Land.

Then come in this weekend and throw a Goose Egg.

Nice... :D

*Where's my beer*

[WISEGUY562]

Elated that my REDSKINS are rolling.
Scalped the boys last week, clipped eagle wings this week.
Next week as long as they don't get overconfident we're going to dehorn the Rams. Ok they've been dehorned already, so we'll neuter them.
Can I be any cornier?

Chiefs are proving that Herman E. isn't that good a coach. He was overhyped with the Jets without any major accomplishments and only got the Chiefs job because he knew Dick Vermeil

Titans are looking very impressive. Jeff Fisher may be the best coach in the NFL. Hard to say that without a ring (by a damn yard) but his teams are always very good, regardless of who he loses.

How long can the Giants keep this going? Hate to see how good they look. Ain't Superbowl Champs suppose to struggle the following year?

Happy to see the Chargers stumble. Hate them. LT has lost a step and all the wear and tear is showing. Maybe they let the wrong running back go. Rivers has a big mouth and makes him easy to hate. And of course they're missing their steroid using all pro line backer, Merriman

Dolphins beat the 2 teams from last years AFC championship. SAY WHAT?
Is Parcell that good that the minute he steps in the franchise becomes automatically better.

Is there a worse division than the NFC West?
Maybe the AFC West?

Millen's firing didn't help the Lions.
Oh, that's right, he doesn't play.
Maybe in a couple of years we'll see them improve. But this franchise is entrenched in its losing ways and it'll take a lot to drag them out of that habit. Sort of like the Cardinals and Browns

What's the deal with Aaron Rodgers?
Think they're going to regret trading Favre?
I still think it was a good move, otherwise Rodgers would've bolted next year. And Favre IMO is the most overrated qb in history. The hell with the records, he only has 1 ring. Give me Brady, Montana, Aikman, Elway, Bradshaw, Simms before I even consider Favre.

At least this week the Rams weren't the worse team. Oh that's right it was their bye week.

[whitetemplar78]

Well its offical, the Detriot Lions are the worst team in the NFL, they might as well let the cheerleaders suit up, hell they might play better, cause the bunch of women that call themselves a Pro level football team, sure the hell aren't. I, in no way am dissin Da Bears, but this was at least a chance for the Lions, BUTTTT NOOOO they played the worst game of football that ive seen in LONNNNGGG while, and thats saying something with this team....damnit...oh well at least the Red Wings are up and playing again, and looking to continue mass spanking of the rest of the NHL....
Oh, and while im here, I want to give a shout out to the Detroit Shock, that won their 3rd title in 6 years, CONGRATS LADIES, and way to kick ass Katie Smith!!!! WOOHOOO
Oh and Jarrod, I'll trade you the Lions for the Chiefs right now....come onnn you know you want tooooo!

[neglet]

At least the Lions' uniforms are that pretty shade of Honolulu Blue. And metallics are always in style. The Chiefs' yellow and magenta is just tacky.

[whitetemplar78]

mmmmm....well that is a good point, we may be going down in flames, but at least we do it in style!!!

[TrekSucksHard]

LOL- maybe a change in uniforms is the answer?

Look at the Broncos- when they wore those ugly pink orange jerseys they couldn't win a Superbowl but the moment they switch to a darker blue one they won two in a row. When the Pats got rid of their red and whites and turned them into silver and blue they started becoming a dynasty. after Tampa Bay changed from pinky sissy orange to crimson and gold and added a skull and crossbones they won their Superbowl. :eyebrow:

[JarrodSarafin]

Chiefs will never change their uniforms...Neverrrrrrrrrrr.

And Negs is just jealous over our glorious colors.

And our 1 victory!

Booyah.

[neglet]

Feh. Yellow makes me look ill.

And we have the lead in the Tim Tebow sweepstakes!

[JarrodSarafin]

That's only because the Rams had the week off last week.

Oh...and don't count us out just yet. You could always do the impossible and win 1 or 2 games, Lions fan. :wink:

[RedKarma]

Still runnin' that fever, but it turns out the cure is antibiotics. On the plus side, I've lost at least 4 pounds. :)

Damn, this is STILL my favorite week for football. Just check out this schedule. Not too shabby!!

WEEK 6

Sun, Oct 12 Time (EST)/Network
CHI @ ATL...........1:00 PM FOX
MIA @ HOU..........1:00 PM CBS
BAL @ IND..........1:00 PM CBS
DET @ MIN..........1:00 PM FOX
OAK @ NO...........1:00 PM CBS
CIN @ NYJ...........1:00 PM CBS
CAR @ TB...........1:00 PM FOX
STL @ WAS.........1:00 PM FOX
JAC @ DEN..........4:05 PM CBS
DAL @ ARI..........4:15 PM FOX
PHI @ SF.............4:15 PM FOX
GB @ SEA...........4:15 PM FOX
NE @ SD.............8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Oct 13 Time (EST)/Network
NYG @ CLE..........8:30 PM ESPN

Byes: Bills, Chiefs, Steelers, Titans

[WISEGUY562]

WTF happened to my REDSKINS, I can't believe they lost to the lowly Rams. I know the Rams are coming off a bye and with a new coach probably had some life but that shouldn't have been enough to let this game slip away. The Skins beat them in everything, 1st down, possesion time, passing and rushing yardage. I guess those 3 turnovers and that hailmary were the difference.

At least the Cowgirls lost too. That always alleviates the pain a little.

Hopefully that loss reawakens the Skins for Cleveland and Detroit the next 2 weeks and learn to play every team as if they were the champs and not take them for granted.

[omicron]

My Cowboys are screwed. :(

Romo out 4 weeks with broken finger, Pro Bowl punter McBriar out 6-8 weeks with broken foot, rookie phenom Felix Jones out 2-4 weeks with partially torn hamstring and key backup WR Sam Huard out for season with a high ankle sprain. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3640890)

[omicron]

It's getting worse.

Pacman Jones suspended indefinitely. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643240)

And to make matters worse, Cowboys sign Detroit Lions WR Roy Williams. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643295)

Now they're taking Detroit's cast-offs?? :confused:

[JarrodSarafin]

The move was probably to offset the losing of Pacman Jones somehow, Omi. At least for the fans.

And I'm about to break out a tissue for you and my sister, Cowboys fans.

lol Think about it...Your team is nowhere near the dire straights as my team. We've lost Jared Allen and Dante Hall...Trent Green is gone...We're rebuilding...We're about to trade our only franchise name Tony Gonzales...and Larry Johnson, aka Mr. Whiney, is in trouble with the law.

Yeah...boohoo with sugar on top, Cowboy fans. :D

[Gentlemen Death]

I am also a Skins fan Wiseguy, I could not believe that game. The Skins come back and then lose...to the Rams...I suppose it could have been worse and they could have lost to the Lions!....Sorry, Negs...:(

[neglet]

Roy Williams is hardly a castoff; he's a premier receiver, and now that he'll be working with a top-notch QB (when Romo returns) with a decent O-line and running game, he should return to the form he had in 2006, when he went to the Pro Bowl after catching 82 passes for 1,310 yards and seven touchdowns.

What does that say about how desperate the Lions are, and how much this season is in the crapper; they'd much rather get a first-, third- and sixth-round pick in 2009 (giving back a ‘09 seventh-rounder in return) than keep one of the few real scoring threats on the team. At least we still have Megatron Johnson.

[omicron]

Of course Negs, 2006 was the only year Roy managed to stay healthy and play all 16 games.

I understand why they did it. He's a good YOUNG reciever(TO is 34), and it should open up the field more for the others and prevent doubleteams on TO. Plus Dallas has a ton of draft picks thanks to various deals.

[RedKarma]

In a fit of early 90's frustration with the Bears, we had adopted an AFC team to cheer for. So congrats to the Browns for punching a hole in the Giant's confidence on Monday night. I just wish I had been in the TV audience to see it. :popcorn:

[RedKarma]

Freshly updated schedule folks, hot off the press.

WEEK 7
Sun, Oct 19 Time (ET)/Network
BAL @ MIA..........1:00 PM CBS
PIT @ CIN...........1:00 PM CBS
NO @ CAR..........1:00 PM FOX
SF @ NYG...........1:00 PM FOX
MIN @ CHI..........1:00 PM FOX
TEN @ KC...........1:00 PM CBS
SD @ BUF...........1:00 PM CBS
DAL @ STL..........1:00 PM FOX
DET @ HOU.........4:05 PM FOX
IND @ GB............4:15 PM CBS
CLE @ WAS.........4:15 PM CBS
NYJ @ OAK..........4:15 PM CBS
SEA @ TB............8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Oct 20 Time (ET)/Network
DEN @ NE 8:30 PM ESPN

Byes: Cardinals, Falcons, Jaguars, Eagles

[TrekSucksHard]

Well the good news is that Kyle Orton is indeed a good QB (as I predicted) and our offense is chugging along. But the bad news is our defense allowed 41 points! WTF?! I thought our defense was supposed to be good?!

I really dunno what to think about this years' Bears- there are times that they look like they can go to the Superbowl and at other times they look like total chokers.

Now if they could trade Wrecks Grossman (GTFO of Chicago you *hole) for some defensive backs maybe there is still hope...

[RedKarma]

http://www.49ers.com/team/coaches_detail.php?PRKey=16

Singletary named head coach!

IMHNFLO, I think you 9'ers are in pretty good hands. If I know anything about Mike Singletary, it is that he is a compassionate guy, so your players are in safe environment. Plus you're gonna get a damn solid D in the process.

Congrats to Coach Singletary, and good luck for your season.

[RedKarma]

All hail WEEK 8!! Why? Because you're really going to miss this in March.

Week 8
Sun, Oct 26 Time (ET)/Network
ATL @ PHI...........1:00 PM FOX
WAS @ DET........1:00 PM FOX
ARI @ CAR..........1:00 PM FOX
BUF @ MIA..........1:00 PM CBS
SD @ NO............1:00 PM CBS
TB @ DAL...........1:00 PM FOX
OAK @ BAL.........1:00 PM CBS
STL @ NE...........1:00 PM FOX
KC @ NYJ............1:00 PM CBS
CLE @ JAC..........4:05 PM CBS
CIN @ HOU..........4:05 PM CBS
SEA @ SF...........4:15 PM FOX
NYG @ PIT..........4:15 PM FOX


Mon, Oct 27 Time (ET)/Network
IND @ TEN......8:30 PM ESPN

Byes: Bears, Broncos, Packers, Vikings

[JarrodSarafin]

Mike Singletary is my new hero...

Check out his reaction to the current 49ers.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80bf84eb

This is exactly what the 49ers needed....This dude's going to make one wild and possibly great coach. Hell, I don't care if they lose every game for the rest of the season, this man belongs in the top coaching position. I'd play for him.

Old School Player Meets the New Age of Football and lays down the law as new coach! :lol:

[RedKarma]

Testify, brother!! :D

[neglet]

Why can't the Lions ever get one of those? :(

[JarrodSarafin]

Why can't the Chiefs ever get one of those coaches too??

Hey...the Niners might need a new TE after this...How about a trade? I'll trade my Tony Gonzales for your Mike Singletary!

*Jarrod, this isn't like trading cards...*

Well, why not?!?

[omicron]

I don't know what's worse:

Having LenDale "you could time my 40yd dash with a sundial" White run for 3tds, including an 80yd TD

or

Six out of seven opposing quarterbacks have established a career-high passer rating against the Lions.

[RedKarma]

Between Halloween and losing my job I forgot to post the games.

Just curious, but do you guys like it that I post the matchups every week? Is it useful to you, or annoying?


Week 9
Sun, Nov 02 Time (ET)/Network
GB @ TEN...........1:00 PM FOX
ARI @ STL...........1:00 PM FOX
HOU @ MIN..........1:00 PM CBS
BAL @ CLE..........1:00 PM CBS
JAC @ CIN...........1:00 PM CBS
DET @ CHI..........1:00 PM FOX
NYJ @ BUF..........1:00 PM CBS
TB @ KC .............1:00 PM FOX
MIA @ DEN..........4:05 PM CBS
ATL @ OAK..........4:15 PM FOX
PHI @ SEA...........4:15 PM FOX
DAL @ NYG.........4:15 PM FOX
NE @ IND............8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Nov 03 Time (ET)/Network
PIT @ WAS..........8:30 PM ESPN

Byes: Panthers, Saints, Chargers, 49ers

[TrekSucksHard]

The Bears win but Orton goes down... now its back to Grossman. There goes the season. :goodbye:

[neglet]

Such is the power of the Lions. We can lead the game, force you to use Grossman, and still lose!

#1 pick, baby!

[RedKarma]

Such is the power of the Lions. We can lead the game, force you to use Grossman, and still lose!

#1 pick, baby!


Yeah that takes a special kind of ...talent?

I guess the Titans aren't worried about their undefeated status with Grossman in the driver's seat for maybe 4 weeks. Ye gods, this sucks.



Anyway, Thursday night ball begins for you lucky sobs with NFL Network.
Tell the rest of us how it goes, OK?



Thu, Nov 06 Time (ET)/Network
DEN @ CLE.........8:15 PM NFL Network

Sun, Nov 09 Time (ET)/Network
TEN @ CHI..........1:00 PM CBS
BAL @ HOU.........1:00 PM CBS
GB @ MIN...........1:00 PM FOX
JAC @ DET..........1:00 PM CBS
BUF @ NE...........1:00 PM CBS
NO @ ATL...........1:00 PM FOX
SEA @ MIA..........1:00 PM FOX
STL @ NYJ...........1:00 PM FOX
CAR @ OAK.........4:05 PM FOX
KC @ SD.............4:15 PM CBS
IND @ PIT............4:15 PM CBS
NYG @ PHI...........8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Nov 10 Time (ET)/Network
SF @ ARI.............8:30 PM ESPN

Byes: Bengals, Cowboys, Buccaneers, Redskins

[RedKarma]

The end of Bye weeks! Playoffs can't be far behind.

Sorry for the bad alignment, having hand trouble. :p


Week 11
Thu, Nov 13 Time (ET)/Network
NYJ @ NE...........8:15 PM NFL Network
Sun, Nov 16 Time (ET)/Network
DEN @ ATL.........1:00 PM CBS
MIN @ TB............1:00 PM FOX
BAL @ NYG.........1:00 PM CBS
OAK @ MIA.........1:00 PM CBS
NO @ KC.............1:00 PM FOX
DET @ CAR.........1:00 PM FOX
PHI @ CIN...........1:00 PM FOX
CHI @ GB............1:00 PM FOX
HOU @ IND..........1:00 PM CBS
STL @ SF............4:05 PM FOX
ARI @ SEA..........4:05 PM FOX
TEN @ JAC..........4:15 PM CBS
SD @ PIT............4:15 PM CBS
DAL @ WAS.........8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Nov 17 Time (ET)/Network
CLE @ BUF..........8:30 PM ESPN

Byes: None

[JarrodSarafin]

Boy...that Monday Night Football game looks really...really exciting!

Must see TV.

[omicron]

Hey at least it's golden boy Brady Quinn. Can you imagine the excitement if it was Derek Anderson vs Trent Edwards? :puke:

[JarrodSarafin]

I think Derek got a bad rap there, Omi. No offense to Browns fans but their team is set to the ways of losing.

And yes, define irony, with that comment coming from a Chiefs fan.

I just don't think Derek should get the blame for a losing organization.

[neglet]

So, who thinks the Lions will actually win a game this season? Here's their remaining schedule:

Sunday, November 23 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
Thursday, November 27 TENNESSEE TITANS
Sunday, December 7 MINNESOTA VIKINGS
Sunday, December 14 at Indianapolis Colts
Sunday, December 21 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Sunday, December 28 at Green Bay Packers

They usually manage to play okay for a half, then fold like perforated cardboard. Maybe they can beat the Saints, but all those other teams are in the playoff hunt and won't be slacking off. Last night we saw the first 11-10 score in NFL history; could we see the first 0-16 season ever?

[JarrodSarafin]

I thought Tampa Bay had the first 0-16 season in the 70s? Or did they have a shorter season back then...like 0-15?

Either way, I think the Lions have a shot at it..which is somewhat disappointing. I'd like to get the #1 draft pick...Come on, Lions...Screw up and win one game!!

[neglet]

I think Tampa Bay's winless season was 0-14, in their expansion year.

If the Lions have a chance to miss the #1 draft pick by winning a single game, you can bet they will do it. It happened two or three years ago: they were tied with the Raiders for worst record, and played the Cowboys in their last game. I think the game actually meant something for the Cowboys, the difference between division winner and wildcard, maybe? And the Lions pulled it out to get the #2 pick. That's just how we roll.

I think after the Williams trade, we will have something like five picks in the first three rounds ... if we hire a decent GM, maybe they can parlay that high pick into more. We need all the help we can get.

[RedKarma]

Week 12
Thu, Nov 20 Time (ET)/Network
CIN @ PIT............8:15 PM NFL Network

Sun, Nov 23 Time (ET)/Network
HOU @ CLE.........1:00 PM CBS
PHI @ BAL..........1:00 PM FOX
SF @ DAL...........1:00 PM FOX
BUF @ KC...........1:00 PM CBS
NYJ @ TEN..........1:00 PM CBS
TB @ DET...........1:00 PM FOX
CHI @ STL..........1:00 PM FOX
MIN @ JAC..........1:00 PM FOX
NE @ MIA............1:00 PM CBS
OAK @ DEN.........4:05 PM CBS
CAR @ ATL..........4:15 PM FOX
NYG @ ARI..........4:15 PM FOX
WAS @ SEA........4:15 PM FOX
IND @ SD............8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Nov 24 Time (ET)/Network
GB @ NO.............8:30 PM ESPN

[RedKarma]

Where the heck is everyone?

Y'all talkin' NFL behind my back?




On with lucky week #13.


WEEK 13
Thu, Nov 27 Time (ET)/Network
TEN @ DET..........12:30 PM CBS
SEA @ DAL......... 4:15 PM FOX
ARI @ PHI...........8:15 PM NFL Network

Sun, Nov 30 Time (ET)/Network
NO @ TB.............1:00 PM FOX
NYG @ WAS........1:00 PM FOX
CARO @ GB........1:00 PM FOX
MIA @ STL..........1:00 PM CBS
IND @ CLE..........1:00 PM CBS
SF @ BUF...........1:00 PM FOX
BAL @ CIN..........1:00 PM CBS
ATL @ SD...........4:05 PM FOX
DEN @ NYJ..........4:15 PM CBS
PIT @ NE............4:15 PM CBS
KC @ OAK..........4:15 PM CBS
CHI @ MIN..........8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Dec 01 Time (ET)/Network
JAC @ HOU..........8:30 PM ESPN

[neglet]

I'm just hoping the Lions aren't blacked out so I'm not forced to watch the American Dog Show tomorrow. :p

[RedKarma]

OMG, they black out games by you?!?! That is ROTTEN! Hockey I could see, because that was always blacked out by me, but NFL? WTF! Is that because of your team, or who they were playing?


Pops came back from Vegas recently. He placed about 7 Superbowl bets for the family. Since the Titans & Giants weren't paying very well, he asked who else he should bet on. So I have my $20 on Pittsburgh, and Mr RK has $5 on Philly (this was just before their tie game with Cincinnati).

So were we smart, dumb, or just crazy with our second class picks? YOU MAKE THE CALL.



Week 14
Thu, Dec 04 Time (ET)/Network
OAK @ SD..........8:15 PM NFL Network
Sun, Dec 07 Time (ET)/Network
JAC @ CHI...........1:00 PM CBS
CLE @ TEN..........1:00 PM CBS
HOU @ GB..........1:00 PM CBS
PHI @ NYG..........1:00 PM FOX
MIN @ DET..........1:00 PM FOX
CIN @ IND...........1:00 PM CBS
ATL @ NO...........1:00 PM FOX
NE @ SEA...........4:05 PM CBS
MIA @ BUF..........4:05 PM CBS
KC @ DEN...........4:05 PM CBS
NYJ @ SF............4:05 PM CBS
STL @ ARI..........4:15 PM FOX
DAL @ PIT..........4:15 PM FOX
WAS @ BAL........8:15 PM NBC
Mon, Dec 08 Time (ET)/Network
TB @ CAR...........8:30 PM ESPN

[JarrodSarafin]

I would beg Detroit to win a game but the Chiefs screwed it up and won their second game last weekend.

Well, they were playing Oakland. Even when your team sucks, it's very hard to lose against the Raiders....

[omicron]

I think that Pittsburg bet might be a good one. What are the odds?

[neglet]

OMG, they black out games by you?!?! That is ROTTEN! Hockey I could see, because that was always blacked out by me, but NFL? WTF! Is that because of your team, or who they were playing?


The NFL blacks out games locally when the venue doesn't sell out a couple days before the game. As bad as the Lions have been, their fans have been loyal and have bought all the available tickets--especially since the team moved from the larger Silverdome to the very nice, but smaller, facilities at Ford Field. But this crappy season, combined with the state economy in the toilet, means the sellouts haven't been happening. The two home games before Thanksgiving were blacked out, which is probably just as well. It's usually no big deal, because the other network will have a game I can watch. Luckily, they did sell out Thanksgiving so I could watch the carnage while eating my turkey.

Btw, did I mention that I actually got to walk around in an NFL locker room earlier this year? I was working as a guide at the state marching band championships, which were held at Ford Field. One of the warm-up rooms for the bands was the visiting team locker room, so I got to stand around there for half an hour. All the lockers were empty, of course, but it was fun to browse all the signs the NFL had posted. There was one on how to wear the uniform and equipment properly, and one stressing the importance of helmets. There was also one noting that bounties or rewards for hits are illegal. It was kind of cool, although obviously my thoughts of bad mojo towards visiting teams didn't work.

[RedKarma]

The NFL blacks out games locally when the venue doesn't sell out a couple days before the game. As bad as the Lions have been, their fans have been loyal and have bought all the available tickets--especially since the team moved from the larger Silverdome to the very nice, but smaller, facilities at Ford Field. But this crappy season, combined with the state economy in the toilet, means the sellouts haven't been happening. The two home games before Thanksgiving were blacked out, which is probably just as well. It's usually no big deal, because the other network will have a game I can watch. Luckily, they did sell out Thanksgiving so I could watch the carnage while eating my turkey.

I think that stinks that you can't watch your home team unless they sell out. How the heck are they supposed to generate NEW fans or please current ones unless they can SEE a game?


Btw, did I mention that I actually got to walk around in an NFL locker room earlier this year? I was working as a guide at the state marching band championships, which were held at Ford Field. One of the warm-up rooms for the bands was the visiting team locker room, so I got to stand around there for half an hour. All the lockers were empty, of course, but it was fun to browse all the signs the NFL had posted. There was one on how to wear the uniform and equipment properly, and one stressing the importance of helmets. There was also one noting that bounties or rewards for hits are illegal. It was kind of cool, although obviously my thoughts of bad mojo towards visiting teams didn't work.

That's pretty cool negs, getting to see anything off the beaten path plus double bonus for you that it was free. Bounties for nasty hits? Dang, this is a passionate sport!

The best thing I heard of was when a friend was a young boy, he and his brothers got to run around out on Lambeau Field (in the off season) and throw each other passes. They got to do that because they toured the old Packers Hall of Fame, and because a really nice groundskeeper said it would be OK as long as they didn't rip up the turf. They weren't Packers fans, just kids on vacation with their parents, but they always held a good deal of admiration and respect for Green Bay for having kind and helpful staff.

Has anyone else here gotten to see anything "back stage" at the NFL?


Omi, they didn't print the odds on the tickets, just the pay out. My $20 Pitt bet is worth $140, and the $5 Philly bet is worth $45. You could probably work out the odds from that, I know I can't my math stinks.

[omicron]

Wow, pittsburg is 7-1 odds? I thought it'd be much lower than that.

[RedKarma]

Oh man. Just watched the Pitt/Dallas game, which I admit I was salivating over since last weekend.

Every year I seem to catch 10 minutes or more of a game that was IMHO, epic. Today was that day.

If you caught the last 10 minutes of that game, you know what I'm talkin' about.


'Nuff said!!

[neglet]

I'll have to catch the replay on NFL network, I only got to watch part of the first half.

...and in other news, it looks like the Lions are almost guaranteed the first-ever 0-16 season. I mean, they play at Indy, home against NO, and at Green Bay. All three of those teams are still in the hunt for playoff spots (maybe not Green Bay by the last game, but the Lions never win at Lambeau).

At least there's nowhere to go from here but up ... I hope.

[JarrodSarafin]

Well, the Texans won at Lambeau yesterday so you never know...Detroit could do it too.

Oh, who am I kidding?

[Adam54]

If it helps Negs, I'm worried about the Colts looking past the Lions. We're playing so hot, I could easily see them looking beyond Detroit to...say...the Titans in a couple weeks.

That is I could see them looking beyond Detroit if they weren't coached by Tony Dungy and QB'd by Peyton "Game Tape" Manning.

Yeah. Sorry. 0-14 for sure. :D

[omicron]

As if all the Big-3 bailout stuff hasn't proved that unions are oppressive, out-of-touch and clueless.....

NFLPA files grievance challenging Burress' suspension, fine (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3758117)

Really? You're going to stand up for a prima donna who SHOT HIMSELF WHILE ILLEGALLY CARRYING A GUN IN A ALCOHOL-SERVING ESTABLISHMENT???? :headscratch:

[RedKarma]

Really? You're going to stand up for a prima donna who SHOT HIMSELF WHILE ILLEGALLY CARRYING A GUN IN A ALCOHOL-SERVING ESTABLISHMENT???? :headscratch:

:mad:

On the other hand, I wonder if the NFLPA is hiring. Sounds like good bennies, and if I have an on-the-job freak out, I want these dudes in my corner.

Week 15
Thu, Dec 11 Time (ET)/Network
NO @ CHI............8:15 PM NFL NETWORK

Sun, Dec 14 Time (ET)/Network
TB @ ATL............1:00 PM FOX
DET @ IND..........1:00 PM FOX
SD @ KC.............1:00 PM CBS
BUF @ NYJ...........1:00 PM CBS
SEA @ STL..........1:00 PM FOX
SF @ MIA............1:00 PM FOX
GB @ JAC............1:00 PM FOX
TEN @ HOU..........1:00 PM CBS
WAS @ CIN..........1:00 PM FOX
MIN @ ARI...........4:05 PM FOX
PIT @ BAL...........4:15 PM CBS
NE @ OAK...........4:15 PM CBS
DEN @ CAR.........4:15 PM CBS
NYG @ DAL.........8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Dec 15 Time (ET)/Network
CLE @ PHI...........8:30 PM ESPN

[RedKarma]

FYI - Local Bears fans can catch the Thursday night game on WPWR Ch. 50 Aurora.

[Adam54]

Wow. Lions were a biiiit closer than I would've preferred, but a win is a win.

I'm SO excited at the prospect of the Colts making the playoffs with the Patriots staying home. God that sounds amazing.

[neglet]

I tell you, the Lions can blow a lead in the 4th quarter to anyone!

Although you heard it here first: they get a win against the Aints this weekend.

[RedKarma]

Why not? It's that kind of week. Freeeaaaakkk tiiiicket, baby!!



Week 16
Thu, Dec 18 Time (ET)/Network
IND @ JAC 8:15 PM NFL NETWORK

Sat, Dec 20 Time (ET)/Network
BAL @ DAL 8:15 PM NFL NETWORK

Sun, Dec 21 Time (ET)/Network
CIN @ CLE...........1:00 PM CBS
NO @ DET...........1:00 PM FOX
MIA @ KC............1:00 PM CBS
ATL @ MIN..........1:00 PM FOX
ARI @ NE............1:00 PM FOX
CAR @ NYG.........1:00 PM FOX
SF @ STL............1:00 PM FOX
PIT @ TEN...........1:00 PM CBS
PHI @ WAS..........1:00 PM FOX
BUF @ DEN..........4:05 PM CBS
HOU @ OAK.........4:05 PM CBS
NYJ @ SEA...........4:05 PM CBS
SD @ TB..............8:15 PM NBC

Mon, Dec 22 Time (ET)/Network
GB @ CHI............8:30 PM ESPN

[neglet]

And as an additional "F-You" to the fans, Detroit owner William Clay Ford says he's not firing anyone else this year:

The Lions will not clean house completely after the season, despite making history with their futility.

Owner William Clay Ford said in a released statement Sunday that "he expects both Tom Lewand and Martin Mayhew to return to the organization next season."

Lewand is the Lions' chief operating officer. Mayhew was promoted to general manager after Ford fired Matt Millen three games into this season.

Before the Lions suffered a 42-7 loss to New Orleans and became the first NFL team to reach 0-15, Ford told Booth Newspapers that Lewand and Mayhew would help him hire another executive, with their roles yet to be defined. He also said he had not made up his mind whether to fire coach Rod Marinelli.

The Lions will lose at Lambeau next week, capping off a "perfect" season. At least the Cowboys lost, too. If they miss the playoffs, their traded picks become more valuable.

Of course, that just makes it more likely that they will make it in. Then I can look forward to a #1 pick of another wide receiver. Or another Joey Harrington. <shudder> Because our idiot owner can't bring himself to fire some guys that have made his franchise the laughing stock of all professional sports.

Is there a worse owner in all of professional sports? At least when Art Modell sold the Browns to Cleveland, the fans had a fast, clean break. They weren't forced to watch the slow, sad decline of their team into oblivion.

[RedKarma]

In honor of George Carlin, a modified title:

WEEK 17 - GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER

Sun, Dec 28 Time (ET)/Network
STL @ ATL..........1:00 PM FOX
JAC @ BAL..........1:00 PM CBS
NE @ BUF............1:00 PM CBS
KC @ CIN............1:00 PM CBS
DET @ GB...........1:00 PM FOX
CHI @ HOU..........1:00 PM FOX
TEN @ IND...........1:00 PM CBS
NYG @ MIN..........1:00 PM FOX
CAR @ NO...........1:00 PM FOX
MIA @ NYJ...........1:00 PM CBS
DAL @ PHI...........1:00 PM FOX
CLE @ PIT............1:00 PM CBS
OAK @ TB............1:00 PM CBS
SEA @ ARI...........4:15 PM FOX
DEN @ SD...........4:15 PM CBS
WAS @ SF..........4:15 PM FOX


That is all.

[neglet]

They said it couldn't be done, but the Lions capped off a "perfect" 0-16 season.

At least the Cowboys tanked today and missed the playoffs. Nothing warms my heart like seeing the Cowboys suck.

I'd hate to be a Patriots fan, watching Denver and San Diego play in the Mediocrity Bowl for a playoff spot that should have been theirs.

[RedKarma]

Playoffs?? Playoffs??! Playoffs?!!

ALL TIMES EASTERN


Sat Jan 3
4:30/NBC ATL vs AZ
8:00/NBC IND vs SD

Sun Jan 4
1:00/CBS BAL vs MIA
4:30/Fox MIN vs PHIL


Sat Jan 10
4:30/CBS BAL, SD or IND @ TN
8:15/Fox AZ, ATL or MIN @ CAR

Sun Jan 11
1:00/Fox AZ, ATL or PHIL @ NYG
4:45/CBS MIA, SD or IND @ PITT


Championships - Sunday, Jan 18

3:00/Fox NFC
6:30/CBS AFC


SUPERBOWL XLIII - Sunday, Feb 1st 6:00/NBC


I hope I got that right. If anyone sees something to correct, please do so.

[neglet]

I'm going with Arizona, Indy, Baltimore, and Philly.

Can't wait for the next round.

[RedKarma]

Marinelli sniffing around Halas Hall

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1360253,CST-SPT-bear03.article


The last thing we need is Detroit's castoffs!




:mad:

[neglet]

I'm going with Arizona, Indy, Baltimore, and Philly.

Can't wait for the next round.

Three out of four ain't bad, considering the SD-Indy game went into OT.

I'm going with Steelers over Chargers, Ravens over Titans, Panthers over Cardinals, and Giants over Iggles (although I wouldn't be surprised to see an upset).

[omicron]

Cowboys relase Pacman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3817195)

Good riddance. We don't need the hassle and his amazing 4.6yd/return punt average. :mad:

[Penfold]

I can't believe I heard the words "The Arizona Cardinals are going to the Super Bowl" in my lifetime. The horsemen of the apocalypse are gathering, the only thing left is for the Cubs to win the World Series.

[omicron]

yeah I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this myself

[fastcar]

So, it's Pittsburgh vs. Pittsburgh WEST. Awesome. Not that I wouldn't have minded a Turnpike Bowl but I think Philly was a little scary for us. I'm liking the odds.

I think Polamalu ought to be named Secretary of Defense. I could not see us playing in Tampa had he missed that interception. Ravens would have gotten at least the field goal, gone ahead, and Pittsburgh may have lost the momentum. It's hard enough having to play against the opposing team, but the officiating was horrible. Granted, the roughing the kicker call, while beneficial, was a bad call, but mostly it was a very lopsided game in terms of judging.

[neglet]

I can't believe I heard the words "The Arizona Cardinals are going to the Super Bowl" in my lifetime. The horsemen of the apocalypse are gathering, the only thing left is for the Cubs to win the World Series.

Nothing means anything any more since Tampa Bay won the Super Bowl. That was just wrong.

Now, if the Lions ever get to the Super Bowl, I'm sure the earth will crack and hell's minions will swallow us all.

[omicron]

Hell, that might happen if they just finish with a winning record. :wink:

[sickness]

I'm glad to see some fresh blood in the Bowl as well as a chance for Kurt Warner to prove he's more than a flash in the pan. I'm also liking the Steelers in there again. It shows that their offense in '05 wasn't completely powered by Bettis.

Whichever this game goes, we all win unless it's a 41-3 blowout or the like.

[RedKarma]

So let me see if I have this right.

Negs wiped the floor with everyone in the fantasy pics, and I may be holding a winning Super Bowl ticket?


Does that or does that not mean NFL Mania chicks rule? :bounce2:

[neglet]

So let me see if I have this right.

Negs wiped the floor with everyone in the fantasy pics, and I may be holding a winning Super Bowl ticket?


Does that or does that not mean NFL Mania chicks rule? :bounce2:

Just another reason for the guys to drool over us.

"They like SF? They can talk about cover 2 and post routes? They have BOOBIES??? Where can I find me one of them?":D

[fastcar]

They can break building materials with their appendages...

[RedKarma]

They can break building materials with their appendages...

My baking skills are to be feared. My chocolate cake has provoked spontaneous marriage proposals, and cheesecake that may destroy all willpower in any creature.


On another note...

Best wishes to all the NFL fans for a safe and happy SuperBowl weekend. Drive carefully out there folks, when in doubt take a cab!

[fastcar]

I seriously lost about 5 years off my life last night.

[neglet]

But it was fun to watch! I think that was the second best final 5 minutes of a Super Bowl ever, second only to the Titan's one-yard-one-second-short effort in SB XXXIV (was it really nine years ago?).

[The Tyrant Virus]

I seriously lost about 5 years off my life last night.

I hear ya!

[Jakester]

Show's over! Go home!

[omicron]

What, not a big pro-bowl fan? :)

[Jakester]

Stop it now, I mean it!

[fastcar]

Anybody want a peanut?

[fastcar]

Paddle faster!! I hear banjos. This is, sadly, from my hometown.
Either a spelling error or Mexican Food Tasting Contest.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/fastcar151/imagejpeg_0.jpg

[omicron]

You know, I've heard of the Puppy Bowl, and the Lingerie bowl and Bud Light Bowl and other counter-programming moves.

I am certain I wouldn't want to see this contest.

[fastcar]

Make sure you wave your irritable bowel! There sure was a lot of movement by the tight end. If they don't bear down and push forward, their season will end up in the shitter.

[omicron]

I know Negs isn't around much anymore, but I had to post this for her.

Is that a threat? (http://deadspin.com/5315732/is-that-a-threat-detroit)