4:11 Cabin Fever - Locke (spoilers & spec)

[fastcar]

Wow... a lot of good stuff in this episode.


WTF is up with Claire and Christian? Is she dead, too? Did she survive the blast afterall? Maybe that's why Miles was so interested in her.
They spent a lot of time setting up the doctor and the time differences. How strange.
Horace..... is he a member of Geronimo Jackson? They had another poster for the band inside Locke's uhh locker. Maybe as a mathematician and musician, Horace knows how to program Good Vibrations into code.
So, how are they going to do it? Dharma U-haul?

[Little Nell]

I wondered how they're going to change the location as well... and do they mean location in time or space?

[The Tyrant Virus]

WTF is up with Claire and Christian? Is she dead, too? Did she survive the blast afterall? Maybe that's why Miles was so interested in her.


You know, I was wondering that myself. I mean, unless she's like Michael and can't be killed (that was an awesome scene), the house was blown to smithereens and she seemed pretty much unharmed.

That whole thing with Richard was crazy. I wonder what that whole thing with those items and the knife was all about. Oh and who was that guy that was pushing Locke around? Was that Eko's brother?

[Razar]

Oh and who was that guy that was pushing Locke around? Was that Eko's brother?

That was Matthew Abaddonn, whom we've seen twice this season. He was the guy that posed as a "representative of Oceanic airlines" to Hurley in the premier to try and get him to fess up about the rest of the survivors that stayed on the island. He was also responsible for assembling the scientist team on the freighter (Miles, Daniel, Charlotte) and well as Frank and Naomi to lead them.

Abaddonn works for Widmore and I love that Locke will "owe him one" considering they are essentially enemies now with Locke trying to defend the island and Widmore trying to exploit it.

[fastcar]

The whole thing with Richard is probably a Dali Llama thing. He's probably looking to see if Locke would choose things that belonged to Jacob. Of course, Locke had been running away from his destiny most of his life. He didn't choose the right objects....probably because he chose the ones he really would have wanted. He dismissed the Mittelos camp idea because he wanted to be a jock and not get pushed around....which ironically he was in the next flashback. The one thing about destiny vs. free will is that no matter how you try to change it, it course corrects. He eventually ended up crashing into his destiny by getting on the plane. (i.e. Charlie having to die after being saved time and time again.)

Which brings me back to Claire. How can she be dead if Desmond sees her getting on a helicopter with Aaron?

[The Tyrant Virus]

That was Matthew Abaddonn, whom we've seen twice this season. He was the guy that posed as a "representative of Oceanic airlines" to Hurley in the premier to try and get him to fess up about the rest of the survivors that stayed on the island.

Ahhhhh, yeah. I knew I'd seen him before, but I couldn't quite remember who he had been. Thanks.

[Little Nell]

Which brings me back to Claire. How can she be dead if Desmond sees her getting on a helicopter with Aaron?
Exactly!! Claire was supposed to live. She didn't get a DUI in Hawaii as far as I know, so the writers should stay true to Desmond's vision.

As an aside, I have to say that I love the actor who plays Ben more and more. That was a great scene with Hurley and Ben at the end. Hurley opens the candy bar and Ben just looks him. Then Hurley shares and Ben looks so happy and content eating his half. :lol:

[Strider]

That candy bar scene cracked me up. :D

Is it just me, or did Claire seem a little creepy? She just had this strange look on her face that seemed a bit....shady or something. Weird.

[alaristhered]

Claire almost seemed drugged out to me. It was bizarre. Sorry, but as a mother, if my dead Dad who I never even had a relationship with said, "You're not supposed to raise her" I wouldn't go, "Oh, okay! I'll leave her on this tree truck and go frolicking through the jungle with you!"

The vial that Locke almost took - I'll bet you an ice cream cone that was filled with sand from the island.

[Jakester]

I need to re-watch it, because it seemed to me as though Claire knew a lot more about a lot of things, almost as though she were enlightened. And she knew that things wrt Aaron were happening as they were meant to.

[Metuzalem]

Loved it up until right after the scene with Locke and Matthew, it got kind of flat after that for me. Love how Michael is still indestructible, also I think that the machinery Kimi strapped to himself mimmicks the effects of the island to that extent. WTF is up with the doctor's body washing up before he dies? And shouldn't Sayeed have made it back to the island before that?
I can't remember season 1 but did we actually see Jack identify Christian's body?
Also, how messed up was the comic Richard showed the young Locke? There's got to be a screenshot of it somewhere on the net.
The thing that confuses me is the relative ages between Locke and his dad. The flashback of his birth was set in the 50's if the soundtrack was anything to go by. Let's say his mum was 16. Her mum says the guy she was with was twice her age (so let's say 30). In the present day Locke is about 50 and going by all this, his dad is 80? Seriously? That can't be right, can it!?!? :confused:

[fastcar]

http://images.lostpedia.com/images/9/93/Mysterytales.jpg

Kevin Tighe is only 63 while Terry O'Quinn is 55. That's worse than Sean Connery only being 12 years older than Harrison Ford and playing his father in Last Crusade.

[Little Nell]

That's really cool...

[Jakester]

Doc Jensen @ EW (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20201750,00.html?&xid=rss-feed-lost-20080523-%27Lost%27%3A+Deja+vu+all+over+again) has some really interesting analysis on 4.11 and about the show in general.
I've not really taken the time to sit and analyse the show that much, but it certainly seems like something that's both fun and worthwhile to do.

[Still Crazy]

My new theory about one thing is...when Jack is told he is not supposed to raise him, the him they are talking about is not Aaron. I'll leave it at that for right now.

[alaristhered]

I thought the same thing. I thought "you're not supposed to raise him, Jack" is referring to raising his father from the dead. Almost as if by havng so much unfinished business with his father, he is preventing him from being truly dead, and "forcing" the island to bring him back. Does that make sense? I'm hopped up on Benadryl right now.