View Full Version : TMWTGG - Why all the hate?
06-15-2008, 03:15 PM
Since I became a Bond fanatic about a decade ago, TMWTGG has always been high on my rank list, currently maybe around the 6 or 7 mark. I know that it's generaly on most Bond fans' shit-list and I never really cared, but I just watched it again last night for the first time in a while (I've been watching all the films in chronological order the past few months since I havent really watched most of them in quite a few years), and it just struck me again how great of a little flick this on is. It's got a good pace to it, some great action, one of the series' best villians, good locations, and the score is very good and even great in some scenes (the part where Bond's flying the plane the Scaramanga's island in particular).
Any love for it around here? It doesn't have the grand scale of TSWLM but I've always found TMWTGG much better than that overrated (IMO) Gilbert crapfest (okay, that's maybe a bit harsh, lol).
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06-16-2008, 01:13 AM
For me, it always seems to be the Bond movie that is it's own worst enemy.
Great central idea, the world's best assasin squaring off against Bond. What is not to love ? And Moore as 007 is yet to become the parody of the character that hampered his later efforts.
But..... Mary Goodnight, Nick-Nack, the funhouse, the car/plane, Sheriff Pepper's return, the schoolgirls kicking the sh*t out of a whole martial arts school.
Everytime something good happens, something equally awful is right round the corner that totally destroys the goodwill. Exactly the same problem as the 2nd half of DAD.
Just my opinion though :D
06-16-2008, 07:23 AM
I've always liked it. Maybe that's because I was a kid when it came out, and didn't notice the flaws. I loved seeing girls kick ass, and it's fun seeing Bond try to solve a mystery that we already know the answer to--it's a different angle from the usual Bond storyline. Sure, Sheriff Pepper is annoying, but his appearance is fleeting. And I think the climax of the film is one of the most tense scenes in any Bond film. It may not be great visually, but the story of Bond vs. assassin is certainly more personal--and maybe more compelling--than the usual crazy-evil-dude-trying-to-blow-up-the-world plot.
06-16-2008, 10:17 AM
Short answer? Title song. The rest of the score may not be bad, but the main theme does it in for me. There simply aren't words for how bad I hate that tune.
The film also strikes me as very bland. There isn't a single action scene in the film that makes me go "oooooooh!" The closest thing to it was the car chase, and it was only slightly memorable because of the barrel roll. Was this a Guy Hamilton venture? I think it was his last and I think it shows because there is no spark that really makes this one go bang.
I don't think I hate it as much as I hate Moonraker, but it certainly doesn't make it to even the top 15 list for me.
06-16-2008, 10:31 AM
I give it a very mixed review in my book. It really deserves two separate reviews, the "good" TMWTGG, and the "bad" TMWTGG. The good version has a fairly intelligent bit of espionage, great set design, a great score, interesting characters, and some very fine set pieces (I like the funhouse, among others). The bad movie has ass-kicking schoolgirls, forgetting Bond and leaving him behind, the Sumo Wedgie, Nick Nack, Sheriff Pepper, and nipple jokes.
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