How much did you enjoy the 'Revenge of the Sith'?

[jayce78]

What are your thoughts on the film?

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[American]

It was cool. It answered all the questions relating to the "last" three, but may have added a couple more

[jayce78]

I was totally into it personally too! I thought it had the emotion / the drama & the charm .

Thanks for responding American. . .


Don't forget to vote!

[Asonokirk V 2.0]

I voted a 5. And I think the negativity directed towards the film and PT in general were motivated by envy and a lack of respect towards GL. Sure, Hayden Christensen was not the best choice to play Anakin, but the film itself was brilliant.

[jayce78]

The film was creatively brilliant / The film got really good reviews from the top critic's in the bizz( Eibert & Roper said it was the best one since 'Empire Strikes Back') / good internet mojo / and won 2 People's choice awards for Heaven's sake. . . .


Sounds like an O.K. film to me?

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[God's Swollen Goiter]

One to Five?

Somewhere in between there, I suppose.

I refuse to acknowledge my feelings toward Revenge of the Sith until some time after all of today's youths have settled snuggly into adulthood and passed their collective judgment on it. Only then, at the End, will I allow myself to formulate an opinion.

[SinisterPryde]

I enjoyed the film for what it was. I was disappointed it didn't mesh quite as well as I had hoped, but I still really liked it. I still would have handled the PT differently, but I'm not Lucas, so...

[jayce78]

All fine opinions . . .

Thanks for reponding.

[Corporal_Hicks]

1.5

It was the worst film of all the prequels.

[jayce78]

You gotta be flipin kidding me(LOL) . . .

But ha , . . .if thats how much you enjoyed it , what can ya say!

opinions are like an anus everybodies' got one . . .

[Sgt. Awesome]

I say 4. It seemed slow in parts and too fast in others. Visually it was amazing. Blew my mind after exiting the theatre. If you had asked me then, 5. But after some analysis it drops down to a 4. Still a very well done movie. I might buy it on DVD at some point. These directors cut versions I might buy... I don't know. If it comes with all six and I've got money when I it comes out...

[jayce78]

At this point my advice if you haven't already bought it is . . .


If you really have to have it on dvd , you should go ahead & get it .There's places that have it much cheaper than others . . . .

Or since the other thing is around the corner in a year . It might be better on your wallet too just wait! Of course that will probally be a more Special / extended version of the film.


Right now it's just the theater release. . . .

[Sgt. Awesome]

I'm gunna hold off till I have money. Because... well... I couldn't anyway.

[Corporal_Hicks]

You gotta be flipin kidding me(LOL) . . .

Nope.

[jayce78]

Nope.



Whatever:lol: thanks for stopping by mate. . .

[Space Tycoon]

Four. I was very impressed. I have always liked the prequels, with all of their faults. Not loved, but liked.

I'm a spaceship guy. What can I say. My definition of contentment is sitting in a darkened theatre watching glorious space vehicles fill the screen, and I was not disappointed with Sith.

One of my complaints during Clones and Menace was the way-too-fast editing of the space battles. You really could not see what the heck was going on beyond a fraction or two of a second. The opening battle in Sith was much more evenly paced, giving us time to take in the view and get our bearings. This is necessary for the audience to put themselves inside the characters' heads, I suppose. The battle scenes throughout were lovingly crafted and had that element of fun that had often been missing from Ep's 1 and 2.

And of course I liked the story, and even the dialogue. I understand that Michael Medved complained upon the film's release that George Lucas had joined the "far-left, Michael Moore" crowd by crafting a rather familiar-seeming story about a Republic's descent into totalitarian Empire. Whether or not Lucas is serious when he claims there was no such political intent, only he can answer. But isn't it interesting how quickly a neocon would make that connection?

Project much Medved?



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[magiccarpet]

i definitely enjoyed it. when i saw it in the theater, i can saying holy shit...i was so pleased.

when i watch it since, i still love it (i love all the movies), but sometimes i just have to wonder how they didnt axe some of the dialogue or shoot anothe take here or there. its a very compelling story, and i thought some of the scenes lacked charisma

[jayce78]

One of the things that excite me about the thought of G.L. doing a Big 'Ultimate' set . . .


Is that he shoots multiple takes with multiple cameras & angles . So there's much more choices than other projects . . .

[jayce78]

All fine opinions mates , . . .


Don't forget to vote!

[Jarl]

People hate the prequels. That's a fact.
This is the best of them, and definitely better than RotJ.
I felt Vader's descent into madness could have been handled better, but not without stretching the darkness all the way back to TPM, thus removing the shock of it all...

-The book really captures Anakins "reasoning" better in some places, like the compulsion to be a master.

[jayce78]

I think we got that in the movie too . . . .


Anakin desire to get ahead!(No pun intended:lol: ) I wasn't really that crazy about the book / What's interesting though is that it was taken from a more early form of the movie . . .


Like in the book Shaak-ti dies in the Jedi meditation chamber in the temple , where'as we know that piece of film once excisted in the picture . . .


But was cut for now . . .


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[Jarl]

I hope that when the inevitable next verson of the film comes out (2007 in 3D!) they keep her death in the meditation chamber.
It fits the story.
I also wonder if they'll include Vos, as they originally planned to (not only was it not included in the final product, there was never even an actor selected), and if they do, where he will be when the order comes.

-And I hope-hope-hope against all hope that they do not-not-not-not-not put young Han Solo on Kashyyk, as Lucas briefly considered. You can't just cherry pick the EU without upsetting the fans, it's all or nothing.

[Magell]

I really dug the movie. The only thing that bothered me was the logic in giving the twins to the only living relatives of Anakin and a Senator. How is that keeping them hidden?

[jayce78]

I hope that when the inevitable next verson of the film comes out (2007 in 3D!) they keep her death in the meditation chamber.
It fits the story.
I also wonder if they'll include Vos, as they originally planned to (not only was it not included in the final product, there was never even an actor selected), and if they do, where he will be when the order comes.

-And I hope-hope-hope against all hope that they do not-not-not-not-not put young Han Solo on Kashyyk, as Lucas briefly considered. You can't just cherry pick the EU without upsetting the fans, it's all or nothing.




Althought not 100% nessesary to the film , Vos's death would be cool to see in the 'Ultimate' 2007 version of the film for E.U. buffs / and actually almost made it into the theater version of the movie. . .

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George actually said in an interview that a lot was cut out of the order 66
seq. of the film , because originally it went on for a much longer period . . .

[Jarl]

As I recall, he survives that blast and goes into hiding in the forests of Kashyyk.

-Somewhere out in the outer rim, though, there's apparently still Vos Jr. and Mrs. Vos, waiting to be executed by Vader or recruited by Luke into the Academy 40 years later. That sort of thing happens a lot.

[Rowanberry]

In the 'next' special edition of 'Sith' they shouldn't have Padme die of a broken heart or whatever she died from ( :rolleyes: )but from a lightsaber slice from either the Emporer or Anakin.

I don't know if that would actually improve the movie but anything would be better then the way she died in the original movie. Gosh, that was dumb. Then that 'NO' that Vader gave was awful too.

Padme's death was one of the things that bugged me most in this movie; as you said, it was just dumb, and seemed so meaningless. :(

Before there even was any talk about prequels, I composed a fanfic (though I never wrote it down) about the relationship of Anakin and his wife, and the events that led to Anakin becoming Vader and his wife dying. In my fic, the wife escaped from Anakin and went into hiding after she found out about his turning to the Dark Side. With the help of Obi-Wan, she arranged her children to their foster homes, and herself joined the first rebel forces; she died sacrificing herself to destroy an Imperial battleship.

ROTS was the best of the prequels, but overall, just mediocre compared to the original trilogy.

[jayce78]

I think Pad'me death is still meant to be a bit of mystery . . .


Just because a droid says some shit doesn't mean jack. It was vauge & not totally clear , & I think meant to be that way. Pad'me losing her lifeforce could still mean so many things . . .

It's interesting in the early concept of the film. Pad'me was in constant force-related pain caused by the twins & in the end was the direct reason why she died.


People that have a problem with her death or usally the same people that have to have everything spelled out for them in the Star Wars cereals , and usally are the same people that love the E.U. and all thet extended universe shit.


But ha! Everybody can have an opinion from there perspective , more power to ya mates . .

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[jayce78]

Eldarion - But I know most here loved the movie so I will be quiet now and let you all tell each other what a great movie it was and how it was the best movie of all time. Right?

I don't believe anyone here was saying that.That was just immature .This thread is about how you rate & enjoy the film right now. . . .


If there are people here that tend to dig it more than not. Well that's just your problem & mabie you should find a differnet topic. . .

[Rowanberry]

IPeople that have a problem with her death or usally the same people that have to have everything spelled out for them in the Star Wars cereals , and usally are the same people that love the E.U. and all thet extended universe shit.

Well, I, for instance, am not. :romy: I saw the original trilogy back when they were first released, 1977 to 1983, and they still are The Thing for me; also, I couldn't care less of the EU, which basically is officially approved and published fanfic (and maybe therefore exceptional). And, we don't even have Star Wars cereals at my corner of the world.

What especially bugs me on Padme's death, in addition to its dumbness and being very cliché, is the inconsistency with the OT. From the ROTJ, we get a conception that Leia spent at least a few months with her real mother and has some vague memories of her; but here, Padme dies right after giving birth to the twins. Where's the continuity?

(Not to mention that, she didn't look a bit like someone in late pregnancy with twins, but rather like in mid-pregnancy with just one child.)

[SinisterPryde]

What especially bugs me on Padme's death, in addition to its dumbness and being very cliché, is the inconsistency with the OT. From the ROTJ, we get a conception that Leia spent at least a few months with her real mother and has some vague memories of her; but here, Padme dies right after giving birth to the twins. Where's the continuity?



If I recall, Luke asked Leia what she remembered about her mother. Leia said she had vague memories, feelings, that she was always sad. We also know that Senator Organa has a wife. It's possible that this was the mother Leia was referring to.

I agree, though, that Padme's death was weak. This woman was a fighter and it seemed so unlike her to die so easily, especially with the twins. It doesn't matter if there was something written somewhere that suggests she died from having her life force drained by the twins Force abilities (anyone else think that's creepy?). There was nothing mentioned in any of the films to suggest this as a possible cause.

[sickness]

If I recall, Luke asked Leia what she remembered about her mother. Leia said she had vague memories, feelings, that she was always sad. We also know that Senator Organa has a wife. It's possible that this was the mother Leia was referring to.

Nope. Luke asks her, "Leia, what do you remember about your mother? Your real mother?" Meanwhile he has no memory of his mother. In ROTS, we see that they spend the same amount of time with her (5 seconds?). Doesn't add up.

[Corporal_Hicks]

Doesn't add up.

Nothing in Revenge of the Sith adds up.

[jayce78]

As I said we still don't know why she died . . .

Did it have something to do with the twins / or was it the reason a Jedi Knight is forbidden to be with women? or was it just George wanted to leave it ambiguious? For us to put in our own meaning . . .

[jayce78]

If I recall, Luke asked Leia what she remembered about her mother. Leia said she had vague memories, feelings, that she was always sad. We also know that Senator Organa has a wife. It's possible that this was the mother Leia was referring to.

I agree, though, that Padme's death was weak. This woman was a fighter and it seemed so unlike her to die so easily, especially with the twins. It doesn't matter if there was something written somewhere that suggests she died from having her life force drained by the twins Force abilities (anyone else think that's creepy?). There was nothing mentioned in any of the films to suggest this as a possible cause.


Some people still hold to that . . .


That Liea is remembering Bail's wife who died and not her real mother.

As you recall this is said right before Luke reveals the truth to Leia in 'Return of the Jedi' . .

[SinisterPryde]

To further play devil's advocate, Leia may have been confused by Luke's question. Nothing was said previously about Leia being adopted in the films. It's possible (again, this is giving Lucas credit he doesn't deserve) that Bail Organa remarried sometime later and Leia believed that to be her stepmother. If we're going to interpret Padme's death with vagaries, we can do the same here.

Having said that, I wish Lucas had watched his original trilogy and made thorough notes for himself so as not to contradict himself and create that rift between the two trilogies. Watch out for the Ultimate Supreme Really Special Editions that have CG altered scenes in the OT where all these inconsistencies are fixed by bad editing and even worse dialogue inserted.

excerpt: A New Hope

ext. Tatooine - day

LUKE:
So the droid does belong to you then.

BEN:
considering R2-D2
Don't seem to recall ever owning the droid. Though I do remember
meeting him initially when Qui-Gon and I escaped from Naboo.

[jayce78]

To further play devil's advocate, Leia may have been confused by Luke's question. Nothing was said previously about Leia being adopted in the films. It's possible (again, this is giving Lucas credit he doesn't deserve) that Bail Organa remarried sometime later and Leia believed that to be her stepmother. If we're going to interpret Padme's death with vagaries, we can do the same here.

Having said that, I wish Lucas had watched his original trilogy and made thorough notes for himself so as not to contradict himself and create that rift between the two trilogies. Watch out for the Ultimate Supreme Really Special Editions that have CG altered scenes in the OT where all these inconsistencies are fixed by bad editing and even worse dialogue inserted.

excerpt: A New Hope

ext. Tatooine - day

LUKE:
So the droid does belong to you then.

BEN:
considering R2-D2
Don't seem to recall ever owning the droid. Though I do remember
meeting him initially when Qui-Gon and I escaped from Naboo.




Oh my sweet Lord help us!!!:lol:

[Karatekid84]

i thought thE movie was awesome.Really had some good drama in it.The special efects iN it were so great.i'm glad it turned out good and it got really good reviews:)

[mediagirl42]

I give it a 1. Mostly I hated ir. Found it a total let down. I mean I have been waiting over 20 years for THAT. I nearly cried in despair.

[Space Tycoon]

Between Star Wars PT and Star Trek Enterprise, I think it's clear now that the only way to do any kind of science fiction prequel right is to retain all of the details, continuity and ambience of the original source material.

Not just some, or most. But all of it. That means doing your homework, and not just listening to yes-men.




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[Space Tycoon]

But having said that, I took the film for what it was: a simple space opera, with great special effects. In that respect it was not disappointing.

Maybe now Lucas will get back to his roots and make the low budget social commentary type films he has said all along he wanted to make after SW. Get away from the blockbusters for awhile and refamiliarize himself with his craft.

He himself has compared his current situation with that of Darth Vader--becoming what you hate, in this case a mega-corporate leviathan.

If he can get away from that and give us something we have never seen before, then redemption may be at hand.

And who knows? Maybe in another ten years or so, George Lucas will revisit the Star Wars universe yet again.



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[dvdemon78]

Even people who loved this film can look at it and say that it could have been done differently. In my opinion there was too much built up excitement over his new films and I think even die-hard fans had there own ideas about how these prequel films were going to turn out. They had expectations that weren't met. These die-hard fans were kids when they saw the first trilogy and now that we are older we have gotten smarter and have our own imaginations to feed.
I feel when I watch the prequels they seem so rushed, like George has been sitting on his ass doing nothing. He has become everything that he hated about Hollywood. I wish that young kids that made the origanal SW was still in him.

[colmatrix]

I don't think that any of the prequels captured the emotion of the originals, but ROTS came the closest. It had dialogue that didn't make me want to cringe, the action was amazing, it finally delivered on the epic space battle I had been waiting for...all in all it was my favorite of the prequels. Not to say that cheesy dialogue and paper-thin characters ruined the PT for me, far from it. It is still Star Wars after all.

[jayce78]

I personally don't care if you wish Star Wars to die and rot in hell , just please keep that avatar:wink:

[Asonokirk V 2.0]

If I recall, Luke asked Leia what she remembered about her mother. Leia said she had vague memories, feelings, that she was always sad. We also know that Senator Organa has a wife. It's possible that this was the mother Leia was referring to.

I agree, though, that Padme's death was weak. This woman was a fighter and it seemed so unlike her to die so easily, especially with the twins. It doesn't matter if there was something written somewhere that suggests she died from having her life force drained by the twins Force abilities (anyone else think that's creepy?). There was nothing mentioned in any of the films to suggest this as a possible cause.

A: The "mother" Leia remembers is Bail Organa's wife, her adoptive mother. This is confirmed by the fact Luke has zero memory of a mother.

B. Padme's death was not weak. If you recall, Anakin used the dark side to partially strangle her. It was that action that drained her, not the twins. In other words, she had to direct what little she had left to saving them, and thus died as a result. She was FAR from weak, she was incredibly strong to bring those children into the world.

I've watched the ROTS enough times, eager to find some inconsistencies, and I really haven't been able to. There isn't anything between the PT and the OT that wasn't more or less "inconsistent" between the 3 OT films. Remember "a certain point of view?" I mean, if that, alone, wasn't enough to create the amount of criticism I've heard directed (and unwarranted based on what is said) towards the PT, then what is really going on is that some fans decided ahead of time they weren't going to like the PT, and are basing most of their criticism from emotions, not facts.

[jayce78]

It may be just reaching . . . .


But I got the scense from some of the things George said in iterviews and the film itself , . . . .

That perhaps she was linked to him? And when he gave himself over to the darkside , it killed her as well?

[jayce78]

Wow, your harsh with me for my opinion.


It was a joke about your avatar mate , . . .

And I see you changed it!!!


''Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrahhhhhhhhhhwhoooooooo!!!!!' '

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[SinisterPryde]

I've watched the ROTS enough times, eager to find some inconsistencies, and I really haven't been able to. There isn't anything between the PT and the OT that wasn't more or less "inconsistent" between the 3 OT films. Remember "a certain point of view?" I mean, if that, alone, wasn't enough to create the amount of criticism I've heard directed (and unwarranted based on what is said) towards the PT, then what is really going on is that some fans decided ahead of time they weren't going to like the PT, and are basing most of their criticism from emotions, not facts.

I recall "a certain point of view" (damn genius that). All I was saying was that without having read any articles or tie-in materials directly relating to Padme's death, we are given the sense that she has given up the will to live simply because Anakin became a dick. Like many things, this is clearly open to interpretation. I just felt that the character deserved more than standing around crying for half the movie and then dying.

[jayce78]

It may be just reaching . . . .


But I got the scense from some of the things George said in iterviews and the film itself , . . . .

That perhaps she was linked to him? And when he gave himself over to the darkside , it killed her as well?



Nice thoughts jayce , I'm afraid it's come down to talking to yourself.

[jayce78]

That's brilliant!

[jayce78]

Howard Dean imposses again:


''Time for some more wipass itimidation!''

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[jayce78]

That just might beat Howard Dean:lol:

[Jedi_Qaid]

I feel Mr. Lucas could have made it longer. I would've sat thru a 3 1/2hour or 4 hour Episode III. The movie was excellent and summed up everything I didn't know. After seeing Episode III I went book shopping and pick up Labyrinth Of Evil, Episode III and Shatterpoint (Starring Master Windu).

Great Movie !!!

[jayce78]

"Eldariooooooooooooooooon!!!!!!!!!!!"


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''I hold you the palm of my hand!!!!

[jayce78]

I feel Mr. Lucas could have made it longer. I would've sat thru a 3 1/2hour or 4 hour Episode III. The movie was excellent and summed up everything I didn't know. After seeing Episode III I went book shopping and pick up Labyrinth Of Evil, Episode III and Shatterpoint (Starring Master Windu).

Great Movie !!!


I do agree , I would like to see a longer cut , as well. Especialy things like: Anakin walking through the temple / killing shaak ti / the rebel subplot / obi-wan visits pad'me before he leaves for Utapau . . . .

[jayce78]

Isn't it kinda scary the similarities between the two? Glad I didn't vote for'em

[jayce78]

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[jayce78]

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"Luke!!! I choked your momma this way!"

[jayce78]

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"You know it , I shake my big booty and show it"!

[jayce78]

I wish , I'd be a millionare!


No that's the Star Wars kid! How do you not know that?

[jayce78]

I hope your joking? That's the Star Wars kid . . . .


Some kid that taped himself and then somhow it leaked on the internet ( by him & his friends most believe) & he then sued somebody concerning it for millions and he got it!

[jayce78]

He'll need his millions for all the therapy he needs concerning Star Wars and his acting.



Jake was 7-9 when he made that picture whats Tom Wellings excuse?:lol:

[jayce78]

Say WHAT!!!!!! I thought it was done! Kaput! El finito!

[jayce78]

That is hiliarious!!!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




you can't beat that Smallville!:lol: My faith in Humanity has droped a couple points . . . .

[Spider-Man]

5.0
I loved it. It is my favorite Star Wars movie.

[kawaiidragonfoe821]

A friendf & I were talking about this (she saw the originals in the theater) & we both agree that Lucas was smart to make the last 3 before the first.

I though that they all were good, but 'Sith' was better, it sets it up so well for episode 4

[sickness]

Him being smart to make the last 3 first had little to do with setting up and everthing to do with his creative talents drying up. 1-3 could have been great but he really tapped his last great creative well sometime around Indy 2.

[jayce78]

I'm excited to see how the 2007 Directors cut of this film will be? A lot of great stuff didn't quite make it into the theaterical release:

Just a few -

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Rebel subplot

Obi-wan goes to see padm'e

Anakin greets the Chancellor

Extended order '66'

Extended: Anakin storms the Temple

Lord Vader creates a force hurricane( like E.S.B.)

Obi-wan fights Anakin with 2 lightsaber

The death of shaak ti(Temple meditation chamber / Vader)

Etc.



If like to know more -

http://messageboard.cinescape.com/cinescape/forums/showthread.php?t=647

[jayce78]

I actually had an old shirt like that!