X2 Violence

[SickBoy]

The first few times around when I saw the first X-Men movie, I didn't even think about the violence level, but after seeing x-men 2, I have to say the first movie was definitely lacking in violence.

Now I'm not a big fan of gratuitous movie violence, especially when its very gory or disturbing, but the level of violence in x-2 was just perfect. That and the extra swearing really kicked up the action and characters and overall fun, and it definitely had a borderline-R feel to it. And the great thing was that it was not senseless or too graphic/gory! It was fun and cool and just right! I mean the Pyro scene, Wolverine and Deathstrike, the Mansion invasion scene, Magneto's breakout scene, and all the others were just so good! This is one of those movies that shows that violence in movies, if done right, can be a GOOD thing!

[Bigkid]

I have to say I agree, the violence issue was something that I thought was going to be hotly debated by parent's and by movie critics, but I think the level of it was fine. Especially the invasion of the mansion sequence; when Wolverine kills the first of the Special Ops guys, I thought, "MAN! Jackman REALLY knows this character"! I mean, the pitch of his scream, his reaction AFTER the guy lay there dead, you know..... how he kind of stood there, breathing heavily, thru gritted teeth.
I really thought that the violent reaction that Jackman gave to him AFTER he'd killed someone was even more powerful than the act of him doing the actual KILLING. So, yes, the violence factor was done on a perfect level.

[MALCOLMXERXES]

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BK,

The act of killing is 1 thing, but how a character deals with the consequences of his actions is the true story that interests me.

WOLVERINE'S(TM) response to the Adamantium gambit with the LADY DEATHSTRIKE(TM) duel was powerfully understated.

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[mallratX2]

hey malcolm, just curious, why the trademarks?

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MALCOLMXERXES:
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BK,

The act of killing is 1 thing, but how a character deals with the consequences of his actions is the true story that interests me.

WOLVERINE'S(TM) response to the Adamantium gambit with the LADY DEATHSTRIKE(TM) duel was powerfully understated.

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Mr. MX!
Yes, I concur with what you say..... that's why I LOVED his reaction's during the mansion sequence. It really brought me to mind as to what the original inventor's of this character wanted to convey..... his reactions AFTER the kill.... you know, that almost MANIACAL hyper ventilating and such.. and the scene with Deathstryke.... yes, he was terrific in those reactions as well. A sort of different reaction, though, that I thought. In the comics, you probably would've seen him getting INTO it...... the "bloodlust", if you will. But watching him getting disgusted with it, that was an even MORE interesting reaction!

[ModeMan]

I, personally, am not a huge fan of violence. I generally don't like movies that are R rated or push the envelope or seem to show no moral response to violence.
Wolverine's beserker at the mansion I completely understood. These were men invading a home to kidnap children. When Wolverine made his first kill a friend next to me said, "Dude, he just killed that guy." I was thinking, "Damn right, and I hope he kills the rest of them."
It wasn't that I wanted a violence fix, it's that these guys bust into a school to take out a bunch of kids, Wolverine should very well kill off the guys to defend himself and the kids. They were trying to kill him.
The violence in the movie seemed fitting and necessary and I applaud singer for avoiding showing much blood or gore or obligatory violence.

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ModeMan:
<B>I, personally, am not a huge fan of violence. I generally don't like movies that are R rated or push the envelope or seem to show no moral response to violence.
Wolverine's beserker at the mansion I completely understood. These were men invading a home to kidnap children. When Wolverine made his first kill a friend next to me said, "Dude, he just killed that guy." I was thinking, "Damn right, and I hope he kills the rest of them."
It wasn't that I wanted a violence fix, it's that these guys bust into a school to take out a bunch of kids, Wolverine should very well kill off the guys to defend himself and the kids. They were trying to kill him.
The violence in the movie seemed fitting and necessary and I applaud singer for avoiding showing much blood or gore or obligatory violence.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, it was handled X tremely well, I must say! (Sorry, had to take that opportunity)!

[Faderaven]

I understand not wanting to show blood in a comic book movie but the Wolverine beserker rage in the mansion scene didn't show a single drop.

There would have been blood EVERYWHERE. I'm not really a fan of violence for violence's sake (I'll make an exception for Romero's Dead series) but it's a shame in a way that comic book movies have to homogenize violence to make it safe(?) for children.

Are we really protecting the younger member's of society by not showing them the results of violence?

[ModeMan]

There would have been blood EVERYWHERE.
So you've seen men in full out military kevlar getting stabbed by a man with claws? How would you know how much blood there would be? I doubt it would be spraying everywhere. But yeah it was cleaned up for the movie.
but it's a shame in a way that comic book movies have to homogenize violence to make it safe(?) for children.
A shame to keep kids from seeing grotestque violence?
Are we really protecting the younger member's of society by not showing them the results of violence?
Depends on how the violence is portrayed. It was cool, exciting and action packed in X-Men. What moral lesson would it teach kids if that fun violence were filled with gore? That gore is cool too. It's about keeping them from being desensitized toward violence and predisposed toward it. People get a thrill out of seeing violence. It's best not to give children too high a dose of it too early in their lives.

[imported_Thom]

I think the violence was handled very well, and the lack of blood didn't lose me. As has been pointed out, Wolvie was taking out special ops guys with heavy suits. Add to the fact that the suits were black and the mansion itself was quite dark... You wouldn't have seen much blood in the first place.

[localhero]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ModeMan:
When Wolverine made his first kill a friend next to me said, "Dude, he just killed that guy." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope you gave him a smack for talking during the film... http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif



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[Faderaven]

If I'm not mistaken Wolvie sinks all 6 claws in up to the knuckle in his first victim's chest.

I've seen two stabbing victims, one in my backyard (and then the house after he ran screaming into it) and one on a first aid call. Blood was all over the place.

[SickBoy]

I think the lack of blood for this movie was a good thing. If there was blood gushing out of all those who were wounded, it be a bit sickening and even disturbing. This is not the intention of the film. I think they wanted just enough violence to please the fans but still keep it watchable with a PG-13 rating. The younguns like X-Men too, and it would probably be best for them if they don't see too much gore. I don't like it when violence is too graphic and disturbing. It really sticks in your mind and makes ya feel kinda uneasy all over.

Well there's my opinion! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/smile.gif

[Soccerdude]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SickBoy:
<B>I think the lack of blood for this movie was a good thing. If there was blood gushing out of all those who were wounded, it be a bit sickening and even disturbing. This is not the intention of the film. I think they wanted just enough violence to please the fans but still keep it watchable with a PG-13 rating. The younguns like X-Men too, and it would probably be best for them if they don't see too much gore. I don't like it when violence is too graphic and disturbing. It really sticks in your mind and makes ya feel kinda uneasy all over.

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wow.kinda wierd for a guy named SICKBOY not to like violence.

but,i c where u r comin frum.


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[Bigkid]

The way they also handled Stryker's scene's in which he tries to escape were done very well also. Something about that guy being chained up like that, the way he was wrapped up in those chains.... was very unsettling as well..... that's what was so great about the violence in this film, they didn't have to do anything REALLY gorey, without giving you some skin crawlin moments.

[SickBoy]

Wow, soccerdude, i didnt even realize that about my name! I just chose that name because it's a song by my most favoritest band of all time, Social Distortion! Not meant to describe me as being some sick and twisted individual. Anyone who's heard the song i think will agree that it aint what the title makes it sound like.

I gues it is a bit ironic, eh?
Reminds me of another ironic time, on The Simpsons, when pointed out that the mysterious catburgalar was caught by the very people who trying to catch him. hehe. Simpsons kick ass...