THINGS YOU WANT TO SEE IN X3 (X4)

[themanwithoutfear]

here we post just random things you wanna see in x3 or even x4.....


-wolverine guts magneto.
-beast...(it would be awesome if they used the current new x-men version)
-phionex as a villain (how do the team as well as wolverine and cyclops deal with this)
- a scene where we believe wolverine finally dies then comes back to save the team. ( think t2)
-blob
-rouge/iceman in costume!
-and a full iced up iceman dammitt!

[Zac]

Gosh diddly dammit, stop posting topics in all caps!

[themanwithoutfear]

gee i don't think that they would put that in x3.or even x4.

[Fishguts]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by themanwithoutfear:
<B> here we post just random things you wanna see in x3 or even x4.....


-wolverine guts magneto.
-beast...(it would be awesome if they used the current new x-men version)
-phionex as a villain (how do the team as well as wolverine and cyclops deal with this)
- a scene where we believe wolverine finally dies then comes back to save the team. ( think t2)
-blob
-rouge/iceman in costume!
-and a full iced up iceman dammitt!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pheonix would be a good villian. Earlier, I didn't think they should use her for a couple more movies, but I've come to the conclusion that not only would it mess with the heads and hearts of Cyclops and Wolverine, but Pheonix on the loose would give the government an excellent reason to unleash the Sentinel program. As for Beast, I want to see him, but not in his furry form. Not just yet anyway. Would love to see an iced up Bobby too. As for he and Rouge in uniform, if you look closely at the end of the movie in the oval offive, they are indeed in their X-Men uniforms.

[D.K.HOOD]

I don't want to see the lion version of Beast. We barely got to see him in his non-hairy form in X2 so I don't see the need to jump that far ahead.

I would like to see Dark Phoenix also. Most likely Phoenix won't be an entity inside of Jean Grey, but I kind of wish it was.

One Sentinel. That's what I'm hoping for. Like the way they did it on X-Men Evolution with a prototype fighting the mutants.

And, if its not too much trouble, I'd like to see Havok(Scott's brother).

[Oldsoul3300]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
I would like to see Dark Phoenix also. Most likely Phoenix won't be an entity inside of Jean Grey, but I kind of wish it was. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

--They totally set up Jean Grey becoming the Phoenix at the end of X2.
*fingers crossed*

[Sonic1002]

IF they bring in dArk Phoenix, that would be a perfect oppurtunity to bing in the sentinals. They could be introduced to protect the world against this new, more powerful mutant. And maybe Mr. McCoy oculd be sought to try and figure out how to bring Jean back to the light side.

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-Joker

[bottleHeD]

Mr. Sinister!!!

[Ashez]

One of the best things aout X-men is the diversity it screams and the message it radiates to AH HEEM.. gifted youngsters, such as myself. It really teaches us that we are all individuals and no matter how mutant we feel we are awesome because of our "powers" or indidual gifts, talents, and charactoristics. Thats why I love X-men because in a since it made me look at things in a new way, or mabe reassure me that people were looking at things the same way I was. whatever comes next I hope this same theme plays through because THATS the message I want to get once again when I see X-3.. and umm.. maybe more of Bobby... i dunno if he'd look quite as good iced out but maybe... we'll see.
Lates,
AsHeZ

[localhero]

If we are gonna have a bouncy blue beast.. and it ha to be a current one.. let it be the Ultimate version.. cos his look in that rocks and is somewhat less 'disney' than the new x-men version

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[themanwithoutfear]

and how about logan in a cowboy hat too.

[Ashez]

ooohh.. thats good

[themanwithoutfear]

is that supposed to be sarcasim?

-wolverine trying to kill nightcrawler (uncanny x-men #94 or 95 i think)
-no gambit
-wolverine getting the adamantium ripped out then leaving the x-men thus continuing into the solo wolvie flick

[Sonic1002]

Come on now, Gambit be needed. Don' leave ol' Gambit outta dis.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[bottleHeD]

Mr. Sinister!!!

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[This message has been edited by bottleHeD (edited 01-02-2004).]

[Sonic1002]

The Morlock Massacre. You get Sinister. I get Remy.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[imported_Thom]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by themanwithoutfear:
<B>-no gambit
-wolverine getting the adamantium ripped out then leaving the x-men thus continuing into the solo wolvie flick</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I like the way you think. http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/smile.gif

[bottleHeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sonic1002:
<B>The Morlock Massacre. You get Sinister. I get Remy.

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No problemo.. let's start a petetion

[GRIM]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bottleHeD:
<B> Originally posted by Sonic1002:
The Morlock Massacre. You get Sinister. I get Remy.

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No problemo.. let's start a petetion



I'll sign, but it may only hurt your cause.

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DICK

[leokeo]

I want to say I want more Cyclops, more tatical leader, not just a preppie with sunglasses, I want to see more of him and Wolvie respecting each other with the fun banter

Oh and if we are casting here, how about Lawrence Fishbourne as Mr. Sinister

[This message has been edited by leokeo (edited 01-06-2004).]

[Sonic1002]

Laurence Fishburne?!?!
Ummm..... no.
If anyone, David Boreanaz should play him.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[themanwithoutfear]

first off how the hell do you even come up with let alone validate david borenze playing any x-charecter let alone mr.sinister?

also ive heard all the talk of wantin apocolypse and sinister in the x-films but honestly i cant see it. i mean honestly, its cool to like them and all, but take a step back and try to look at there back storys and try to honestly convey that so A.)it's fresh and cool and wont give you a brain tumor and B.) it makes sense to the millions of fans who dont know there convoluted backstorys.
honestly it cant be done without completly re-doing these charecters and thus pissing off the legions of die hard x-fans.

[imported_Thom]

Sinister I think would be doable if you focused on the more "scientist playing god" aspect, but definitely not Apocalypse.

[Sonic1002]

I am sorry to anger you, oh lord, oh master, wiht my humble opinion. Anyhoo, Sinister would be very doable. I'm not sure how yet, but he would. Apocalypse would be a complete impossiblity.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[Sonic1002]

Oh, and if it make you happy, after seeing the new Sinister picture and thinking, Billy Zane could pull it off.



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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[themanwithoutfear]

that billy zane/sinister pic aint nothin to write home about. it looks more like a bad episode of "queer eye for the straight guy".

[Sonic1002]

I was looking more from the neck up. Right now, I'm more concerned about the faces and facial expressions. They can body build to their heart's content afterward to bring them up to speed.

... and, yes, the neck down does look queer.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[bottleHeD]

Actually, Gary Sinese would make a pretty chilling Mr. Sinister

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[GRIM]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by leokeo:
<B>I want to say I want more Cyclops, more tatical leader, not just a preppie with sunglasses, I want to see more of him and Wolvie respecting each other with the fun banter

Oh and if we are casting here, how about Lawrence Fishbourne as Mr. Sinister

[This message has been edited by leokeo (edited 01-06-2004).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


yea I love that cyclops wolvie chemistry, if you ever see the movie LA confidential you see alot of that in there between russle crows character Bud white and that ummm other guy, essex. yea well anyway, more of that.


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DICK

[NateGrey]

(themanwithoutfear)
also ive heard all the talk of wantin apocolypse and sinister in the x-films but honestly i cant see it. i mean honestly, its cool to like them and all, but take a step back and try to look at there back storys and try to honestly convey that so A.)it's fresh and cool and wont give you a brain tumor and B.) it makes sense to the millions of fans who dont know there convoluted backstorys. honestly it cant be done without completly re-doing these charecters and thus pissing off the legions of die hard x-fans.



The truth is if you saw the lead in story for the age of apocalypse... you would know that apocalypse keeps an eye on current events in search of mutant activity. The escapades in X2 have been placed in the limelight thus he could make his appearance. Added to that, Mr Sinister works for him and could be introduced in the same vein. All that would be necessary is a mutual goal..... can you say Nathaniel Summers AKA Cable or do you not remember how this happened.

[Bigkid]

I've always liked the idea of tring to somehow include Cable in any X-film.

However, I think I mentioned this in one of the other thread's on this topic in this forum, so I don't want to start going on ad infinitum about it. Just suffice it to say, that I'd like to see them somehow work Cable into X4.

(Safe bet here to say that he will NOT be making an appearance in THIS X-stanza). :wink:

[Pod]

So I'm guessing from the pics of the set that Iceman will still not become a fully iced up mutant. I wish they still do the ice slide thing that I see all the time in comics. I wonder if Rogue might ice up her lips kinda like in X2 again in X3.

I surely want to see the wolverine action scenes I found hinted in the set pictures. Patience is never a trait for me... :)

[Bigkid]

I haven't been online in for a few days, so I'm going to just NOW go view these pics that I'm just starting to read about. Apparently there's also some pics of ANGEL...... in sequences which he's flying??! Gotta take a gander at those pics! :D

[Pod]

Yes, Bigkid, those are really cool pics of angel!!! :D :shock: :D

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=15456

I see that there are no wings on him when hes in the air. So i'm guessing the wings will be CGI but hopefully they'll be good. I cant wait for scene from the trailer that shows angel's wings, thats if he is in the trailer. And he seems to be a rebel in the film from the dialogue they put in the page. But I'm not sure if he was also like that in the comics because I never read a comic with the 616 Angel.

Still good stuff! :D 8)

[Pod]

Anyone check out the new caps of the X3 trailer. I'm still not sure if its the real thing but it looks ok. Kinda crappy and cheap but still works. I do want to see more on the DVDs coming out in a month or two. I wonder if the trailer will show up in a week online. Well hopefully it will. Probably not. But its all good stuff to wait for. Juggy is still a mystery for me on his look...

[Pod]

Wow just a month or less to go until we see the Xmen 3 teaser/trailer.

I wonder still on what changes the new director will do. I can never remember his name anymore...and too lazy to look it up. I still hear he's copying most of Singer's style so that might be a good thing.

Hopefully we'll see all the new character in the trailer. Especially Juggernaut!

P.S: Should there be a new topic on the X-men 3 trailer Discussion?

[Bigkid]

Wow just a month or less to go until we see the Xmen 3 teaser/trailer.

I wonder still on what changes the new director will do. I can never remember his name anymore...and too lazy to look it up. I still hear he's copying most of Singer's style so that might be a good thing.

Hopefully we'll see all the new character in the trailer. Especially Juggernaut!

P.S: Should there be a new topic on the X-men 3 trailer Discussion?

BEARPOD!
The director's name is Brett Ratner. I didn't read anything that states that he's COPYING Singer's style.......maybe what he's doing is that he's keeping thing's as close to the comic itself even more so then Singer did. This would make sense, since he IS a self-proclaimed fan of the comic, and let's face facts: He's only human. I'm sure that he want's a successful C2F film himself, and I'm sure that he's going to try to bring his OWN style in on this, but I think he wants the same X-Men adoring public that lauded the praises of the original director to come to his side as well.

As far as should there be a new topic on the X-men 3 trailer discussion.....I don't know, quite frankly...... I didn't know that there WAS one. :?

[Majik1387]

From what I understand, Ratner isn't copying Singer's take on X-Men, he's continuing it and incorporating more of the comic books into the movie.

[Bigkid]

Thank you, Majik. I was trying to say exactly THAT, and you hit the nail right on the head!

[Pod]

K, thanx for clearing that. So what is his "style" because the only thing I've seen of Ratner is, I think, Prison Break.

I'm just really waiting for the Xmen 3 trailer to show up somewhere next month.

[Pod]

Hey anyone read the news on a Stan Lee cameo thats ganne happen in Xmen 3? I love that he finally is in one and that he's actually going to say F*^$ in it...Hmm I wonder how. Maybe he gets cut off on the road and screams "F*^$ you! This isn't your road!" :lol: :shock:

[WC]

I'd like to see Sauron eventually. Nice ugly Pteradactyl who is one of the scariest villains around.

I wouldn't mind an adaptation of the Mesmero (no, not Mauresmo the butch tennis player :lol: ) storyline where the X-Men were hypnotised into thinking they were circus freaks, and it took the Beast's intervention to help them break free.

[Pod]

Ooops I didn't see that the scene with the stan lee cameo is already described.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=3620

Pretty funny, just not understandable on the part where jean is driving and wants to spray water at a guy for no reason...

And on the Sauron thing, I guess it would be cool to see but I wouldn't be suprised if the producers and those guys would drop the idea.

[Zac]

Ooops I didn't see that the scene with the stan lee cameo is already described.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=3620

Pretty funny, just not understandable on the part where jean is driving and wants to spray water at a guy for no reason...

I'd say it's supposed to be in a flashback scene from when she was a girl and her powers began manifesting, so it's probably an accident. If not, maybe that's just her as the Phoenix being evil, muhahaha.

But as for Stan's cameo, it sounds good, but I don't see why it's necessary to have him dropping the f-bomb. If Stan is anything, he's family friendly (ok, forget Stripperella). But I mean, when I think of him, I think of this kind old man thats created all these comics that people all over the world, of a wide variety of ages enjoy... I just don't see the point in having him mouth the f-word, except just to be racy, which is stupid. It's funny, yeah, but I think it would be just as funny and less offensive if he said "heck" or "devil". Then we could even hear him say it in his distinctive voice.

[Essex]

I think it's hilarious. Fuck family friendly.

[easy D]

Well, from what I read, I don't think you could actually hear him say it, but I doubt it's the first time he's ever said it. I'm sure he mumbled a couple of times if one of his ideas never got through from the editor.

Also, I think it's pretty cool Sauron might make it to the big screen. Is he gonna be with the Brotherhood?

Also, bearpod, what's up with your avatar?

[WC]

Well, from what I read, I don't think you could actually hear him say it, but I doubt it's the first time he's ever said it. I'm sure he mumbled a couple of times if one of his ideas never got through from the editor.

Also, I think it's pretty cool Sauron might make it to the big screen. Is he gonna be with the Brotherhood?

Also, bearpod, what's up with your avatar?

Sauron? Where did you read that? Not from my post I hope. I was just saying I'd hope to see him one day. Where did you hear it?

[Pod]

Also, bearpod, what's up with your avatar?

It's Quicksilver in Son of M #3. It's the Decimation issues...I know it looks messed up but I did it quick...But once I hit 900 posts I'll change it like always.

On Sauron: I wouldn't see him as a popular character for the people who don't read the comics. And the general audience might be confused by seeing Shadowcat holding a mini-dinosaur.

[easy D]

Oh, I thought someone said that Sauron was going to be in the next film.

And, bearpod, the picture looks like a dude on his back, with his mouth open. Yeah, looked pretty weird. Thanks for clearing it up.

[Bigkid]

I think it's hilarious. Fuck family friendly.

ESSEX!


BA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I'm with YOU dude!

[Essex]

ESSEX!


BA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I'm with YOU dude!

Damn right. It'll be nice to see Stan doing something a little different.

[Pod]

It's going to be funny to see little kids in the theater with thier mouth open when they hear that. The parents will go crazy. :lol: 8)

[Bigkid]

Well, once "word of mouth" starts getting out, I'm not too sure that too many little kids are going to be IN the theater's when it happens.

(Oh, wait a minute, what am I thinking??)

Little kids say WORSE thing's nowadays then anything Stan "The Man" could utter!! I think that the kiddie's will be fine (although, I agree, if you're a parent, and you can actually HEAR what he says, then maybe it's a better idea to keep the kids at home).

[Essex]

I'm hoping MORE children learn the F word because of Stan Lee. Not nearly enough school children are telling eachother to F off these days, eh?

[aghost10_2004]

i expect a lot of actions in x3! more powers, cool customes and a lot lot more. is gambit appear in x3?

[Pod]

is gambit appear in x3?

Nope, it sucks but that's life. :cry:

Stay tuned newbie... :wink:

[Znluvx]

Maybe I missed it, but has anyone heard if MASTERMIND is going to be in X3 (since he plays an integral role in turning Jean into Dark Phoenix)?

Would love to see him using his "illusion" powers to play with her mind.

[Majik1387]

I'm surprised no one submitted this yet but M and Emma Frost have confirmed cameo roles. Ashley Hartman(The O.C.) landed Emma Frost's role and Mercedes Scelba-Shorte(America's Next Top Model) is going to play M.

Here's the link for details:

http://www.xmenfilms.net/xnews/77.html

[Zac]

Maybe I missed it, but has anyone heard if MASTERMIND is going to be in X3 (since he plays an integral role in turning Jean into Dark Phoenix)?

Would love to see him using his "illusion" powers to play with her mind.

But he was kind of in X2 and he died.

And M and Emma are in this? Suh-weeeeeet! I love them both.

[Essex]

I hadn't heard about M and Emma Frost. I couldn't care less about seeing M, but Emma?! HELL YEAH!!

I am salivating over the thought of a spinoff with Cyclops and Emma teaching the younger mutants...but if the rumours about Cyclops turn out to be true, I guess that won't happen.

[WC]

Would anyone like to see Mr slightly Sinister in a sequel? And if so, should he have his comic costume or something different?

For anyone wanting to know how he might look in 3D, here's a pic of the recent Marvel Legends figure:

http://www.kollectablekaos.com.au/images/Sinister.jpg

Would that work? Or would he look rather camp with those thigh-length boots?

[Majik1387]

Would anyone like to see Mr slightly Sinister in a sequel? And if so, should he have his comic costume or something different?

For anyone wanting to know how he might look in 3D, here's a pic of the recent Marvel Legends figure:

http://www.kollectablekaos.com.au/images/Sinister.jpg

Would that work? Or would he look rather camp with those thigh-length boots?

Well I don't mind boots, but thigh high boots are pushing it to the extreme. I like the cape but I'm not sure about the Snow White collar behind his head. As for the rest of the suit, it should be just a plain dark navy blue with some Satanic pattern on the fabric.

[Pod]

On the topic of Emma and M, it says that it's a rumor for now and I expect it won't happen. If Emma and M are in it then Emma should definitly have a big role in the film but she'll probably be like shadowcat in the first film. One second of her powers and one second talking about her powers.

Emma is a big part of the X-men and if introduced with a low amount of screen-time it might kill her chances of being a popular character to the audience.

[Pod]

Hey todays rescue C2F from exctiniction day! Post in every forum you can! :lol:

So you guys all probably know that Phoenix is going to appear in X3 and to follow through the movie they have to do something that works with the game. And one thing that reminds me of Phoenix is that mostly every marvel character had gained the phoenix force once. The ones I remember is my most favorite, spider-man, and alot more. So my quest is to get as much posts here on this topic so...

Do you think the xmen will gain the amazing phoenix powers like some did in the comics? Or do you think it's a stupid idea? Or do you have a list of guesses on what the Phoenix will do to the film? Post! :shock:

[Bigkid]

To be REALLY honest........ I don't (and never knew, actually), what Phoenix' powers were. I know that sound's almost too strange to be true, but I don't remember reading the "Dark Phoenix" storyline while it was going on. So I'm not able to really chime in on this topic. Can someone....maybe ........BEARPOD, for instance........ give me a general run down of what her powers were?? Please........SHARE........ this information with me, so as to not me look any more clueless then I have already DONE to myself! :shock:

[Znluvx]

To be REALLY honest........ I don't (and never knew, actually), what Phoenix' powers were. I know that sound's almost too strange to be true, but I don't remember reading the "Dark Phoenix" storyline while it was going on. So I'm not able to really chime in on this topic. Can someone....maybe ........BEARPOD, for instance........ give me a general run down of what her powers were?? Please........SHARE........ this information with me, so as to not me look any more clueless then I have already DONE to myself! :shock:

Here's an explaination of the Phoenix Force:

taken from wikipedia.com
The Phoenix Force is the nexus of all psionic energy which does, has, and ever will, exist in all realities of the multiverse. During its time as a sentient entity, it was known to possess the psyche of mortals (particularly those who happen to be telepaths) and thus amplify their psychic abilities to a cosmic (and in some cases, nearly incalculable) scale. Its primary form is that of a gigantic firebird.

hope that helps :)

[Pod]

Well I really can't sum it up that easily but from what Wikipedia can tell it's pretty much this evolution of jean greys powers and I don't think the movie will go in detail and they might give it a few changes but overall its a physic power that is a powerful space energy that is all inside jean grey and well...she becomes crazy with it? I guess that in a way makes sense...hehe.... :shock:

[Bigkid]

Thanks to both Znluxv and bearpod.

Essentially, her mind has become "off the charts" powerful, and she can do MULTITUDES of damage!

(How's THAT sound??) :wink:

[Pod]

Hey something very cool in the news today of X3. They have some preview shots of the special X3 feature from the F4 DVD.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=3654

(SPOILERS)
Wow those Magneto pictures look amazing with the bridge getting twisted like that and the look actually is from a comic with Magneto winning the war on the planet. All the bridges and metal buildings start flowing all over the city and it was soo cool, and now we might get to see something like that on screen! 8) Sweet.

Discuss the new DVD preview pics.

[Bigkid]

Well, I won't give anything away either from those snapshots shown on the web today about X-men 3, but I WILL say...... what they will be doing with the Golden Gate Bridge will be PHENOMENAL!

Really looking forward to this ......... I think this film will be the best one YET.

[Pod]

In the news today...

An interview with Patrick Stewart
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=16323

Look's like there was an oppertunity to see Gambit before...
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=16298

And there's a new casted actor to play a young Magneto
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=16309

Interesting to see that alot of characters are getting casted with younger actors to play the younger versions of the characters. I smell a flashback coming! This probably involves the Phoenix storyline of the movie which is pretty cool. What do you think?

[Majik1387]

Honestly, although it's been said Gambit won't be in the movie, I still think he'll at least make a cameo. I'm happy no one from Lost is in the movie, trying to cast any of them was a mistake.

Anyway, here's an update on who is in the movie:

Wolverine
Cyclops
Prof. X
Storm
Rogue
Iceman
Jubilee
Shadowcat
Colossus
Siryn
Cypher
Magneto
Mystique
Pyro
Phoenix(maybe Dark?)
Beast
Angel(young and present)
Juggernaut
Stacy X
Dr. Kavita Rao
Dr. Moira MacTaggert
Multiple Man
Leech
Artie
Warren Worthington Sr.
Young Jean Grey
and I'm sure it's safe to say that the Morlocks will appear.

Rumored but possibly

Gauntlet
Omega Red
Avalanche
Scarlet Witch
Dazzler-Beverly Mahood(but she is confirmed in the movie)
Emma Frost-Ashley Hartman
M-Mercedes Scelba-Shorte
Callisto-Dania Ramirez

[Pod]

Stacy X

Wow they actually went with the idea of putting her in the movie. Ok... :roll:

Maybe they'll have an assembly in the school which would feature alot of mutants from that list and then that would really be a cheap and easy way for the producers to say "Check, ok so technically we DID show those mutants in the movie. Hehehehe..." :wink:

Hopefully we'll all see each character show their powers in the movie at least once.

[Pod]

Hey in the news they're saying that on monday the trailer will be released on the net. That's pretty cool. Here's a link... http://www.comics2film.com/StoryFrame.php?f_id=16351

I'm hoping to see alot of stuff and not a little like in the SR teaser. The link also has a description of the trailer but what I really want to know is how the look of the movie will change. In X-men and X2 Singer's style was really shown and with a new director I'm wondering how X3 will be different. So that's something to wait for next week. :shock:

[Zac]

...but what I really want to know is how the look of the movie will change. In X-men and X2 Singer's style was really shown and with a new director I'm wondering how X3 will be different.

Though it's common in many trailers, the description you link to refers to a voice over from Patrick Stewart, and that has been something used in the last two films. In both of them, he states about mutation as a global thing and doesn't really ever specifically say anything about the X-Men, and that's what his VO from the X3 trailer seems to be. I think Ratner will do a good job bringing in the Singer-esque elements that made the movies the way they were, but he will also offer in his own abilities, such as more action sequences and stuff, which are something the other two certainly lacked.

[Essex]

Does anybody remember if the budget for X3 has been revealed? Based on everything we've been hearing, it MUST be significantly higher than X2. Many of the characters will need special effects each time they're on screen, and some of the sets we're hearing abut must be extremely expensive. And that's not even mentioning all the huge action effects.

Things we're hearing about X3 seem too good to be true...we've come a long way since almost everybody online was calling the movie a debacle in the making.

I can not wait for the teaser trailer this Monday...!!! I am extremely excited.

[Pod]

Hey, it's a countdown! :D

The trailer's going to online TOMORROW!!!!!
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Tomorrow will be soo cool. CAN'T WAIT! 8)

[Zac]

Seriously, I want to go to sleep right now and wake up tomorrow about this time so I can see it and not have to wait!!!

[Pod]

Seriously, I want to go to sleep right now and wake up tomorrow about this time so I can see it and not have to wait!!!

Lol, that be cheating because you're going to feel like it was 10 minutes ago that it was yesturday and in a way you didn't wait that long to see it...which reminds me.

Is it going to be online by midnight or somwhere around the day/morning? I'm hoping for midnight so I can watch it and go to sleep feeling "I just saw the X3 trailer..ah, life is good". 8)

[Rebornhunter]

well its 10:41 in the morning and the trailer is still not on...well guess we will have to wait a bit longer GAH

[Pod]

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=16575

A few pics from a scene where they're having these protests where there's a vaccine for the mutant gene...which sounds pretty wierd and stupid IMO. I wouldn't think it was going to become qualified as a "disease" in the film after all the evolution intro's voiced by prof X in the beginning of the films. But from the looks of it, the army looks cool and real. Maybe some X-men vs the Military action will go on in that seen.

[Bigkid]

Weird &amp; stupid? Oh, no, I beg to differ BEARPOD. That's been the running theme, actually, throughout these X-films: people fearing &amp; loathing the mutant population, and now, in this film, they want to show how there is a potential "cure to the affliction," so to speak. I think this was a prevelant theme from the first one to this......it's just that this is the first time that they are introducing something along the lines of a "cure" to being a mutant.

[Pod]

But what can they do? They want to stay realistic, right? And a vaccine is, if memory serves me right, a weakened sample of the actual disease and if the mutant gene was somehow obtainted by the government and weakened, they expect our immune system to develop antibodies on it to defend the body? If I was thinking in reality I would have expected the body to take the gene and absorb it into the cell cytoplasm...in biological terms, of course. :shock:

I think it just doesn't make sense...

[Zac]

I may just be overlooking it, but on that page you linked to, bearpod, I see nothing saying anything about a "vaccine", which is, like you said, a weakened down version of a disease. All it says is "cure", so that could be a number of things. Perhaps the mutant gene is a distinct gene that affects different mutants in different places, so some it will make furry and blue, whereas others it makes control the weather. Therefore, the cure could just be a chemical that searches for and destroys that gene, therefore making the person just a human.

[Pod]

“They were shooting a scene in which the army is deployed to support the police in quelling a riot by people apparently opposed to the mutant plague vaccine being distributed at the clinic. You can see in my pictures the “Mutant Cure Shots Available Here” signs and the heavy military response. Filming took place at Carrell &amp; Hastings Streets in Gastown.”

I think the vaccine, even it said once, it's still said in the quote of the page. Yeah the cure part could be a chemical that's made to destroy the gene from developing in your body but it shouldn't be called a vaccine. I get the part that if you call it a vaccine, most people won't think of the true definition of it and just think "That's a good idea..." because the whole society is in the vaccine craze sometimes with all the flu's they get in some seasons. What's a chemical that kills a genetic code even called?

I guess they needed to use a word that is familiar to the general public...

[norrinraad]

“They were shooting a scene in which the army is deployed to support the police in quelling a riot by people apparently opposed to the mutant plague vaccine being distributed at the clinic. You can see in my pictures the “Mutant Cure Shots Available Here” signs and the heavy military response. Filming took place at Carrell &amp; Hastings Streets in Gastown.”

Vaccines by nature are preventative, not curative. This reads to me like they were trying to innoculate the public against mutation so as not to create anymore mutants. It makes more sense that they were somehow trying to cure the existing mutants, as Zac suggested. Of course we won't know until we actually see the film.

However, the idea of there being some kind of pathogen that causes mutation is a very interesting idea, and actually makes sense in the context of the "real world". Kind of like the bacterium that causes meningitis, it's in everyone's body but less than 1% of the population are suceptible to it. If a "mutant virus" could be isolated, a vaccine is definitely possible. Not a bad plot point at all, really...
__________
"I wish you would step back from that ledge my friend
You could cut ties with all the lies that you've been living in
And, if you did not want to see me again
I would understand"

[Zac]

As far as "vaccine" being used, who's to say that it wasn't used incorrectly? Have you ever refered to a bull as a cow? That's completely incorrect, but people generally got what you meant. People can refer to it as a vaccine all they want, but if it's not supposed to be one, it's not supposed to be one. I don't know that it ISN'T a vaccine in the movie, but I figure the scientists may say it's a Cure, then people who don't really know the difference may refer to it as a Vaccine, just because that's a word they know. You know how people are.

[norrinraad]

Yeah, I was thinking that perhaps they meant to say "cure" but typed "vaccine" instead. Actually, if you read the whole sentence, it's pretty ambiguous. Why would the general public be protesting over either a mutant vaccine or cure? Doesn't the general populace "hate and fear" mutants in this universe? And if it were mutants protesting, why would they even bother? Even a mutant with limited powers could probably just level the entire clinic.

I'm not sure what the report is trying to say but it doesn't seem to be saying much of anthing, really.
___________
"Maybe today, you can put the past away."

[Majik1387]

Well although it's said that humans "hate and fear" mutants, there will always be the humans who don't hate or fear them, and accept them for who they are. Those people could be the ones protesting.

[awitchcalledwanda]

- any of the new mutants characters
- Marrow
- a storyline involving Apocalypse or Onslaught
- a cat fight between jean grey and emma frost..
- more villains..

[Pod]

- a storyline involving Apocalypse or Onslaught

From the aspect of reality in the films, can they really pull that off correctly? I don't think it would work for Apocalypse...

- a cat fight between jean grey and emma frost..

Hell Yeah!! :shock: :D
That would be awesome!

[Bigkid]

Hmmmmm..........that DOES sound like it could provide an especially...... err......... "X-citing" moment in the film! :lol:

[Pod]

Hmmmmm..........that DOES sound like it could provide an especially...... err......... "X-citing" moment in the film! :lol:

Giggity Giggity Giggity GOOOO! :D :shock: :D :shock:

That Danger Room...it holds many secrets.. :lol: :wink:

[rainbeaux]

:D In X4 the following: Dark Phoenix, Hellfire Club: Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost and the Imperial Guard. I wonder if the budget can handle that?

[Pod]

:D In X4 the following: Dark Phoenix, Hellfire Club: Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost and the Imperial Guard. I wonder if the budget can handle that?

If there will be an X4...

Well Dark Phoenix already happens in X3. Hellfire Club...hmm I don't remember them. Emma would be great. The budget...it's Fox! :P

[Essex]

No thanks to the Imperial Guard. I do not want to see space travel in the X-Men movies. And really...I don't think I want to see an X4 at all. I'd prefer they finish up the trilogy, then work on individual spin-offs. The rumoured young X-Men spin-off would be what really takes the place of the X-Men movies, as it could grow into a nice franchise on its own.

I'd love to see a young X-Men team, led by Emma Frost, consisting of:

Iceman
Angel
Rogue
Colossus
Shadowcat
Jubilee
Moonstar
Polaris
Havok (introduced younger than in the comics, but still Scott's brother)

[Pod]

No thanks to the Imperial Guard. I do not want to see space travel in the X-Men movies. And really...I don't think I want to see an X4 at all. I'd prefer they finish up the trilogy, then work on individual spin-offs.

Agreed. A trilogy is the best way to make that title be finished. And with the amount of popular mutants they can make many films just focusing on the one mutant. Wolverine, Magneto, Prof X (if he's still alive), Storm, etc...

[Zac]

I agree in part with Essex, however, I would like to see the X-Men franchise carry on but with just new members joining periodically. Obviously, Halle Berry, Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, etc aren't going to stick around for many more X-Men movies, but I think since there are so many X-Men characters to use, they could keep the movies going on matter who leaves, and if the franchise progresses to be a younger team of mutants led by Emma, then that works just as well. To me, I just don't think a lot of spin-off movies is likely to happen. There will be Wolverine, and though there's apparently a lot of development on the Magneto movie, I just don't see it being a wide-release. Maybe direct to video or something, but I just don't think Fox would believe a movie about Magneto would do too well, as he's not really well known, and to those who are familiar with him from the X-Men movies, they probably don't care as much about an old man's history as opposed to Wolverine's.

[Bigkid]

I don't really know much about Emma Frost. However, does anybody know how old she's supposed to be? Because I think, based just on what I've read HERE about her, the actress who'd do her justice is Kim Raver (she was Kiefer Sutherland's love interest last season on &quot;24&quot;). I might be off base here, with her, however, because I really don't know how old Emma is supposed to be. What are her mutant abilities again?? GEEZ.... I feel like this is something I'm supposed to already KNOW! :oops: I feel a little dopey right now!! :oops:

[Pod]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Frost

I think you'll get some of the info on that page that you need.

As for her age....Ummmmmmmm someone in thier young 30's or something around there would work...I guess. :shock:

[Bigkid]

If I were to guess...... I'd say that Kim Raver is probably late 20's, early 30's, sure. Anybody here know to whom I'm referring to??

[Pod]

If I were to guess...... I'd say that Kim Raver is probably late 20's, early 30's, sure. Anybody here know to whom I'm referring to??

Yeah, this actress...

http://eur.yimg.com/i/xp/premier_photo/6/672390a878.jpg

She doesn't fully seem like what I would choose for someone to portray Emma Frost. Maybe someone who can sound like a bitch with a heart...well...maybe she can act like Emma after all. :P

[Bigkid]

Hey Bearpod! Thanks for posting Kim's pic.......and thanks for posting that pic of Emma Frost! From that pic of Emma Frost that you posted.....holy geez! The way they draw her body actually LOOKS like Kim Raver's bod! I'm not kidding, either! As for her acting.........I'm sure she'd be able to bring Emma to life without a hitch. Have you seen her act? Anybody here seen her act before? She was terrific in &quot;24&quot; last season, and she'd be terrific as Emma........trust that!

[Pod]

Well if they were going to put Emma Frost in the X-franchise films then they hopefully would make a great costume for her that has the same look from the comics. I would hate to see a giant X on her... :o :wink:

[Bigkid]

Well, I think THAT goes without saying, BEARPOD!

Kim Raver would look great in just about ANYTHING, anyway! I'd love to see her in that costume that Emma Frost is in in that pic that you put up for me to take a look see at. I'm sure Raver would do the costume .....er....the CHARACTER....... justice! :wink:

[WC]

Well, I think THAT goes without saying, BEARPOD!

Kim Raver would look great in just about ANYTHING, anyway! I'd love to see her in that costume that Emma Frost is in in that pic that you put up for me to take a look see at. I'm sure Raver would do the costume .....er....the CHARACTER....... justice! :wink:

I think her head seems a bit too long, and she also feels more like a character actress than a real &quot;babe&quot;. Emma Frost is one character where you can afford to go really voluptuous babe-like, almost to the point of seeming like something out of Baywatch or Playboy. Kim Raver is just a bit too real for Frost.

[Essex]

Frankly, I don't think Kim Raver is attractive enough for Emma Frost. As Welshcat said, Emma is voluptuous and is the epitome of the blonde bombshell.

The casting is so dependant on how they use the character, though. If they go the traditional route, you'd need someone in her mid 30s, but if they change her origin, casting a woman in her 20s may be necessary. Sexy in your 20s and sexy in your 30s is so totally different...

I'm tempted to suggest Melissa George, but I'm not sure her performance would hold enough weight...

[WC]

Frankly, I don't think Kim Raver is attractive enough for Emma Frost. As Welshcat said, Emma is voluptuous and is the epitome of the blonde bombshell.

The casting is so dependant on how they use the character, though. If they go the traditional route, you'd need someone in her mid 30s, but if they change her origin, casting a woman in her 20s may be necessary. Sexy in your 20s and sexy in your 30s is so totally different...

I'm tempted to suggest Melissa George, but I'm not sure her performance would hold enough weight...

Gah! He says Kim Raver isn't attractive enough, but then comes up with Melissa George.

I hate to say this, because I don't like her much as an actress, but unfortunately, the sort of type one might have to look for when thinking of Emma Frost might be a Pamela Anderson/ Playboy babe-type. I can't think of an actress off the top of my head like that, but that would be along the right lines.

[Majik1387]

I still say get Jeri Ryan if she's still interested.

[Pod]

Check out these new pics from X3.

http://img.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060119/131210__x3_l.jpg

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/2756437/1011/3820633_main.jpg

I think the Angel pic looks wierd and the pic with the gang seems to be a scene that could take place after the scene where Beast is in the White House talking to the President...or before that scene.

[Majik1387]

Didn't see anyone post this one:
Stacy X, Callisto, and Psylocke.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/morlockgals.jpg

[Essex]

Psylocke has the Crimson Dawn tattoo! Cool :) Her look works well enough.

[Zac]

Didn't see anyone post this one:
Stacy X, Callisto, and Psylocke.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/morlockgals.jpg

Stacy X's hair look like Frisch's Big Boy's hair.

Really though, all the ladies in the pic look good, but I have a problem with that. Even though of those 3, Callisto is the only Morlock, I have a problem with her being so good looking (and similarly if the others are also supposed to be morlocks as well). Maybe they're doing the morlocks differently in the film than they're portrayed in the comics, but in the comics they're supposed to be these ugly, deformed mutants that don't have the social luxury of being able to hid their powers like most of the X-Men, and the fact that they all look like normal humans, aside from purple hair and tattoos, kinda takes away from that. Ah well, like I said, maybe in they're just going to be portrayed differently in the movie.

[Essex]

Has it been confirmed somewhere that the Morlocks are in this movie? I haven't seen that anywhere, but I'm not sure. As far as I knew, Callisto was merely a part of Magneto's team.

[Majik1387]

Has it been confirmed somewhere that the Morlocks are in this movie? I haven't seen that anywhere, but I'm not sure. As far as I knew, Callisto was merely a part of Magneto's team.

Callisto is part of Magneto's main team and she leads the Morlocks. I'm sure it is confirmed somewhere, and in the supposed &quot;leaked script&quot; at AICN showed Callisto joins Magneto's fight against whatever it is and she gets the Morlocks to follow her lead.

[Pod]

Stacy X looks messed up....Really wierd.

And aren't the morlocks in the trailer when Magneto is marching with all those people in the background following him? They seemed to be the morlocks to me. :shock:

[Majik1387]

And aren't the morlocks in the trailer when Magneto is marching with all those people in the background following him? They seemed to be the morlocks to me. :shock:

yes.

[Pod]

And aren't the morlocks in the trailer when Magneto is marching with all those people in the background following him? They seemed to be the morlocks to me. :shock:

yes.

I knew it!

I wonder if any of them will kill any major X-men...that be cool. 8)

[Zac]

Has it been confirmed somewhere that the Morlocks are in this movie? I haven't seen that anywhere, but I'm not sure. As far as I knew, Callisto was merely a part of Magneto's team.

Well, I assumed that all those mutants Magneto is talking to in the woods in the trailer were Morlocks. I figured maybe he comes seeking them to help him cause whatever trouble he's planning, to build an 'army' of mutants.

[Pod]

It's amazing no one posted these new pics of Phoenix here yet. :shock:

http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/darkphoenix2b.jpg http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/phomag2.jpg http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/darkphoenixb.jpg

Looks pretty cool...and evil! :D

[Pod]

More new pics just keep on rolling. These are a bit...wierd. :shock:

http://images.aintitcool.com/images2006/wrinkles.jpg http://images.aintitcool.com/images2006/rogue_col.jpg

Ok so Juggy looks horrible IMO and Colossus looks like Joe Millionaire! Where's the russian face?!?!?! And as for rogue...Meh.

[Essex]

Clearly Juggernaut will have some after-effects with CGI. The fact that the suit wrinkles is nothing to worry about.

I have no idea what you're talking about with Colossus....&quot;russian face?&quot;

[Pod]

I have no idea what you're talking about with Colossus....&quot;russian face?&quot;

He looks like Joe Millionaire!!! He's soppose to have some trace of looking russian!.... :shock:

[Essex]

I reeeeally don't see any Joe Millionaire resemblance...I think you're crazy :P

But anyway, considering he didn't have a russian accent in X2, I don't think having a &quot;trace of looking russian&quot; matters ;)

[WC]

It's amazing no one posted these new pics of Phoenix here yet. :shock:

http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/darkphoenix2b.jpg http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/phomag2.jpg http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/darkphoenixb.jpg

Looks pretty cool...and evil! :D

I suppose the skin-tight green (or red) and gold costume with the firebird is out of the question in this movie? :(

Famke's starting to look her age.

[Essex]

Didn't see anyone post this one:
Stacy X, Callisto, and Psylocke.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/morlockgals.jpg

It appears as if that isn't even Stacy X at all.

The following is from a recent interview with Simon Kiberg:

what's the favourite X3 rumour you've read on the internet so far?

&quot;Wow, so many to choose from. I was pretty amused by the latest “film review” of a movie that hasn’t even been cut together. I also followed all the crazy Stacy X rumors. At the end of the day, Stacy X isn’t even in the movie! Trust me, there are lots of secrets left in our film.&quot;[/b]

[Zac]

It appears as if that isn't even Stacy X at all.

The following is from a recent interview with Simon Kiberg:

what's the favourite X3 rumour you've read on the internet so far?

&quot;Wow, so many to choose from. I was pretty amused by the latest “film review” of a movie that hasn’t even been cut together. I also followed all the crazy Stacy X rumors. At the end of the day, Stacy X isn’t even in the movie! Trust me, there are lots of secrets left in our film.&quot;[/b]

Whoever it is, I hope there's an explaination of her hair.

[Pod]

Anyone read the news that the review from AICN was a fake? I heard a lot of poeple were pissed when they read the review because the &quot;spoilers&quot; indicated some bad storylines...I didn't read it but still, it's good to know it wasn't true. :D

[WC]

Anyone read the news that the review from AICN was a fake? I heard a lot of poeple were pissed when they read the review because the &quot;spoilers&quot; indicated some bad storylines...I didn't read it but still, it's good to know it wasn't true. :D

Which bits were fake? About all these people dying? Or is that established as true?

[Essex]

Anyone read the news that the review from AICN was a fake? I heard a lot of poeple were pissed when they read the review because the &quot;spoilers&quot; indicated some bad storylines...I didn't read it but still, it's good to know it wasn't true. :D

Are you totally sure it was that review that was fake? The one on AICN that got people mad was an old draft of the script, and the recent news about a fake review mentioned something about the finished film.

[Zac]

Which bits were fake? About all these people dying? Or is that established as true?

If it wasn't fake then you just spoiled what is probably a very crucial plot element :x

[DarrenJSeeley]

I mentioned this in a more recent thread regarding the AICN story.

It was my understanding that Ratner tinkered very little with the script that had been dissected in and out when Matthew Vaughn was on the project. Still, to be reminded of it is dismal; and I also think trashing of a film not even past a rough cut without half the FX is insanity.

Simon Kinberg:

what's the favourite X3 rumour you've read on the internet so far?

&quot;Wow, so many to choose from.... I also followed all the crazy Stacy X rumors. At the end of the day, Stacy X isn’t even in the movie!

So either 1) the character hit the cutting floor (understandable, given the mutant mayhem; I think Omega Red also suffered a simular fate*) 2) Kinberg is mistaken. There are several photos of the character and the actress is also in the group shot on the bridge and the forest alongside Callisto and Psycloke. One such picture went out on the internet a few days ago. It is the one shown above.

Or there is door 3:
It isn't Stacy X, but another mutant. (Mei Meiling's Psycloke is on the right of Callisto, BTW)

However, Kinberg is also not the only scribe on the film; Zac Penn could have slipped her in. Kinberg isn't Mark Goldblatt, Mark Helfrich or the third film editor Julia Wong. He isn't Brett Ratner.

But Kinberg says 'Stacy X' was rumor. Interesting. So all that talk from former X3 helmer Vaughn and current director Ratner meant squat!




**Vince Murdocco was signed to play Omega Red. From the actor's bg, he appeared in various B- martial arts DTV flicks from the early 90's, including &quot;Kickboxer 2&quot; - one of David Goyer's early 'for hire' scripts.

[Essex]

It's pretty much impossible that Kinberg is merely mistaken, since he said he's been involved with the filming beyond just the script. It's basically confirmed that that is NOT Stacy.

It has been rumoured that the actress we thought was Stacy is actually Arclight of the Marauders. The looks works for her too.

[Essex]

Which bits were fake? About all these people dying? Or is that established as true?

If it wasn't fake then you just spoiled what is probably a very crucial plot element :x

Whatever. Deaths in the film have been talked about publicly multiple times, including from Patrick Stewart himself. It's hardly a spoiler.

[Majik1387]

That Omahyra girl could b playing Arclight who was confirmed to be in the movie part of the Brotherhood.

[DarrenJSeeley]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/headshots/arclight.jpg

Hmmm...well, that would ease some matters if the majority of mutants Mags busts out are members of the Marauders...Blockbuster, Vertigo...In the trailer Storm thinks she's Riptide.

Maybe Omega Red was premature as well...and Mags accidently busts out Mr. Sinister instead.

There's food for thought!

[Pod]

I'm just going to say it again then...Yes. The review was a fake! Didn't you guys see it on the main page news? Well...I did. :D

So much stuff is building up with X3 coming closer and closer! :shock:

[Essex]

I'm just going to say it again then...Yes. The review was a fake! Didn't you guys see it on the main page news?

Huh? Nobody's talking about the 'review,' are they...?

[Pod]

Hmm...going back on track here....Look at this link!

http://www.canmag.com/news/4/3/2952

Now click it! 8)

It's a list of some of the characters in X3...some spoilers...Kinda.

One wierd thing they put in it is that Colossus is bi...that's kinda creepy.... :?

[Essex]

That is an utter fabrication. That site has a horrible reputation for posting false scoops. Plus, everything in those character descriptions could have been written based on the trailer and the AICN script review. There's almost no information there that hadn't been previously rumoured or confirmed, aside from a couple details thrown in to make the scoop seem new. Fake fake fake.

[Pod]

That is an utter fabrication. That site has a horrible reputation for posting false scoops. Plus, everything in those character descriptions could have been written based on the trailer and the AICN script review. There's almost no information there that hadn't been previously rumoured or confirmed, aside from a couple details thrown in to make the scoop seem new. Fake fake fake.

phew...that takes a load off me...Now back to being happy again! :lol: :D

[Jakerman]

If you check out today's (the 6th) update of comicscontinuum.com there are some screenshots from the X3 game. It has Wolverine and Nightcraller fighting some guards and Iceman fighting some giant fire lizard thing. Who knows if any of it will be in the film, games usually add alot of stuff.

[Pod]

A lot of times they try to put the stuff that they didn't fit in the film, into the game. Looks like Nightcrawler, fully iced Iceman and maybe some Sentinels can be those things.

I'll probably try out this game in the summer...

[Essex]

The new game is a &quot;prequel&quot; to X3, so it's not based on it. It bridges the gap between X2 and X3, explaining such things are Nightcrawler's absense from X3.

[Pod]

Is it me or does this colossus pic have somewhat of a bad job making the mask stay on? :shock:

http://www.x-men-movies.de/assets/images/db_images/db_colossusmet2.jpg

[Marvel Master 1]

I want to see the Phoenix Saga continue for one more film it's a saga you can't end it with one movie, and definitely set up a new triology with Apocalypse as a main villian but Magneto still around, Angel turn into Archangel, and if it can be done right Bishop &quot;The days of Future Past&quot;

[Jakerman]

Is it me or does this colossus pic have somewhat of a bad job making the mask stay on? :shock:

http://www.x-men-movies.de/assets/images/db_images/db_colossusmet2.jpg
Is that really what he's gonna look like? Looked better in X2.

[Zac]

Colossus is such a hard character to pull off visually, I'd say that a lot of him will be CGI and a shiney costume combined. At least, I hope so, because while that does look cool, I'd be disappointed if that were the final product.

[Essex]

Well, there's obviously going to be SOME cgi. Otherwise, his mouth and fingers look like they wouldn't even be able to move in that getup. For all we know, that's the costume he wears for long shots that don't require a lot of detail. I'm glad he still has the &quot;revealed musculature&quot; look that he had in X2.

In my guess, this costume will primarily be used so that the CGI on top has the correct lighting and shine. Otherwise they'd be flying blind when it came to reflections and glares and such. This way they can accentuate the costume, make it seamless, fix the eyes, etc, without having to create EVERYTHING from scratch, which would obviously be costly. .

[DarrenJSeeley]

http://www.x-men-movies.de/assets/images/db_images/db_colossusmet2.jpghttp://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/terminator_3__rise_of_the_machines/arnold_schwarzenegger/terminator11.jpg



And you all thought the T-1000 and Norrid Radd were distant cousins! Ha! 8)

[dperceful]

let's hope they do some post digital effects to those eyes. right now he looks like that kid with the mask in those old Quiet Riot videos.

[Essex]

Anyone seen these amazing posters from WonderCon??

http://www.comic-con.org/wc/assets/xmen_lg.jpg

Phoenix looks absolutely fantastic.

[Zac]

Oooh, those are nice!! Any idea what Rogue is standing in front of? I'm sure I'm just imagining things, but it looks like the head of a Sentinel as if it were laying on it's back.

[dperceful]

those would make great one sheets in a theather or a nice set of trading cards.

[Pod]

*starts posting after 3 days of silence* :shock:

Wow, those pics look like something I would see from a rock concert. Very interesting poses.

[easy D]

Oooh, those are nice!! Any idea what Rogue is standing in front of? I'm sure I'm just imagining things, but it looks like the head of a Sentinel as if it were laying on it's back.


It looks like...


the Batmobile?

[Pod]

Huh, it does look like the batmobile...or it could just be the x-men car. What I was confused by first was that I thought that Wolverine was standing next to a toilet seat. :P

[Pod]

Anyone look at the cover of the X-men edition of Empire? It has a picture of Wolverine and for some reason he looks a bit constipated. :lol:

http://www.comics2film.com/BB2/posting.php?mode=reply&amp;t=940

[Pod]

That new trailer they just showed on fox was friggin amazing! :shock:

Everyone got to say something, alot of new scenes were shown. Woo!!! :D

[tecspyder]

You know, I wasn’t that impressed with the trailer. It didn’t really show us TOO much new stuff and the cool factor wasn’t as high for me as it was for the teaser. The shots of Juggy were ok but it looked like something I’ve seen before. Angel’s wings didn't look much better than they did in the teaser or the still pictures, Beast still looked kind of silly, and I don’t think there were any shots of Cyclops in uniform (which lends to the thought that he’s going to die early in the film). It also feels like it might be a slower paced than the previous movies were. X3 doesn’t look awful, but I'm not all that excited about it.

[DS]

It looked okay, but it wasn't nearly as exciting as the first teaser. A lot more talking and not as many &quot;money shots&quot; that tend to &quot;get&quot; me when I'm watching trailers. And I KNOW they have them, 'cause I saw them in the teaser!!

Still looked good, though, and way better than ANYTHING I've seen from &quot;Superman Returns.&quot; Just not looking forward to watching Halle Berry &quot;act&quot; again... :P

[Essex]

What are you two smoking?

The new trailer made me orgasm three times by the time it ended. &quot;Slower paced?&quot; There was a frickin mutant war at the end!! Storm shot lightning! Beast went nuts! Angel leaped out a window in what I can only say is one of the most beautiful frames I've ever seen. Above all, Jean gave me chills! &quot;Please...kill me.&quot; That is puuure Phoenix Saga.

And tecspyder, I can only say I heartily disagree about Angel's wings. Heartily...To me, that's one of the most solid visual effects I've ever seen. Looks so beautiful and natural.

[Jakerman]

That was tonight?? :shock: Oh well, guess it's bound to pop up on the net.

[Essex]

That was tonight?? :shock: Oh well, guess it's bound to pop up on the net.


It already has. http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/tls/trailer/large.html

[tecspyder]

I think the &quot;war scene&quot; is just the danger room and no &quot;war&quot; at all. Angel's jump from of a window was part of a shot we saw earlier, Phoenix laid on a table for the bulk of the trailer, and we've already SEEN Storm shoot lightning! Most of the shots were images we've all seen before. Again, the movie doesn’t look BAD but it just didn’t get me excited at all.

[Essex]

I think the &quot;war scene&quot; is just the danger room and no &quot;war&quot; at all. Angel's jump from of a window was part of a shot we saw earlier, Phoenix laid on a table for the bulk of the trailer, and we've already SEEN Storm shoot lightning! Most of the shots were images we've all seen before. Again, the movie doesn’t look BAD but it just didn’t get me excited at all.

The war is not the Danger Room scene...they're clearly fighting the Brotherhood...Some of the scenes shown are from the Danger Room, but not all of them. They clearly show the Brotherhood and Phoenix standing against the X-Men in an all-out battle.

So what if Angel's jump was part of a scene they've shown? They didn't show THAT part. It was astonishing.

It's like you want them to show the whole movie. I've seen quite enough thank you. This trailer was phenomenal.

[tecspyder]

I'm not attacking the movie or anyone's opinions I’m just saying that for a trailer with so much hype behind it, I expected to see some NEW stuff. Is that too much to ask?

[Jakerman]

That was tonight?? :shock: Oh well, guess it's bound to pop up on the net.


It already has. http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/tls/trailer/large.html
WOW. Awesome. The big battle with Wolverine hacking up the Brotherhood will be so cool. And Angel's wings looked alot better to me in this trailer.

[Zac]

Oh wow, that was incredible! I have to admit, I was kind of indifferent about this earlier. I'd like some of what I'd seen, but I was afraid I'd seen it all, you know? But man, after this trailer, I see there is soooo much more. Awesome! My only complaint is how 'revealing' the trailers have been (and most trailers are today). I mean, I can watch that trailer and figure out who dies and who loses their powers. I know that those have circulated around in rumor mills a lot anyway, but it's just a disappointment to see in the trailer that it's going to happen. I just hope they left a few surprises.

[norrinraad]

Just not looking forward to watching Halle Berry &quot;act&quot; again... :P

Ah yes, so I suppose that Best Actress Academy Award gathering dust on her mantleplace is just a figment of our collective imagination, no?

How's your Oscar doing? Polishing it every day?

:roll: :P

[Majik1387]

I gotta say to all the people saying that the trailer was recycled and not much new stuff was shown, to watch it again and you'll prove yourself wrong. I know there are some parts that we've seen before but the majority of it was new.

[Pod]

Something new was a part of the trailer where Stacy-X, or at least who is soppose to be stacy x, is doing some electro-shock blast with her hands.

Now I'll try to post a pic if I can it but what the hell. I mean is it Stacy X or not? :?

[Majik1387]

Now I'll try to post a pic if I can it but what the hell. I mean is it Stacy X or not? :?

She has been confimed to be playing Arclight.

[Pod]

Now I'll try to post a pic if I can it but what the hell. I mean is it Stacy X or not? :?

She has been confimed to be playing Arclight.

Ohh.... :oops: I guess I missed that news.

[Sonic1002]

That is pretty awesome......

[DS]

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[DS]

Ah yes, so I suppose that Best Actress Academy Award gathering dust on her mantleplace is just a figment of our collective imagination, no?

You mean the one she got for Best Portrayal of a Porn Actress in &quot;Monster's Ball?&quot; Puh-leeze... her &quot;acting&quot; in that movie consisted of faking multiple orgasms on Billy Bob Thornton's bed. It was a joke that she won the Academy Award for that, just as it was when &quot;Shakespere in Love&quot; won Best Picture over &quot;Saving Private Ryan.&quot;

If you actually think that winning the Academy Award means you really ARE the best, you're only kidding yourself.

Can anyone name one theatrical film where Halle Berry has distinguished herself as a great or even GOOD actress? Does anyone KNOW anyone who thinks Halle's a great actress??? Not beautiful, but a good ACTRESS? &quot;Wow! That Halle Berry sure can act!&quot; has yet to pass through the lips of ANYONE I've ever seen, except Oprah... and she was producing the movie!

The only thing I've seen her in where she's actually been good (and I've seen most of her films... even &quot;B.A.P.S.&quot;) was in &quot;Introducing Dorothy Dandridge&quot;... everything else has been pretty darn weak, acting-wise.

She's great when it comes to wearing a bikini and taking her top off, but ACT? She can't even wear Storm's wig convincingly. And she certainly doesn't add anything to the X-Men films that any number of other black actresses couldn't, given the same role, other than basic name recognition. In fact, her performances are often cited as one of the weakest parts of the X-Men films.

[Bigkid]

I highly disagree. First of all, I think she's at her best when she's got a really good director. She was actually terrific in &quot;Bullworth&quot;, where Warren Beatty directed her, and her director on &quot;Monster's Ball&quot; was a good one, too (unfortunately, I can't remember the dude's name). But if you watch &amp; listen to her in interviews, you'll see that she's somebody who DOES take the time to work on creating character &amp; making a different person up when she's up there on the screen. Didn't you see her as Samuel L. Jackson's crack-head girlfriend, in &quot;Jungle Fever?&quot; She was terrific. It was a small, but ultimately, very impressive turn. She wasn't glamorous OR porn star quality at all in that flick. Granted, some of the film world's greatest actors have stated in the past that an Academy Award really means nothing (Robert Duval HAS stated that), but in the big picture, in the big scheme of things, those same actors that say that wouldn't have it any other way, having that golden statuette collecting dust on ther mantle piece.

[easy D]

Actually, I think she can be a good actress, she just has lousy taste in film roles (see The Flintstones, B.A.P.S., Gothika, etc.)

[DS]

I don't have a problem with her choice of film roles ( I think Storm, Catwoman and Jinx from Die Another Day are choice roles, myself)... it's her EXECUTION of them once she has the role that's weak overall.

Although, BigKid IS right about Bulworth... she was great in that and it's a film worth seeing. Unfortunately, the majority of her acting roles, including that in X-Men, rarely match that quality and often don't even come close.

Everytime I see her &quot;playing&quot; Storm in those horrible wigs and terrible &quot;African&quot; accent it just makes me wince. She can't bleach her hair or hire a vocal coach??? To me, that's not taking time, that's just being lazy to collect a check. Even Kirsten Dunst and Ron Howard's daughter color their hair for their parts in the Spider-Man films.

Maybe she should just have Beatty written into her contract as director for every film she makes.

[Essex]

Everytime I see her &quot;playing&quot; Storm in those horrible wigs and terrible &quot;African&quot; accent it just makes me wince. She can't bleach her hair or hire a vocal coach??? To me, that's not taking time, that's just being lazy to collect a check.

What? Since when is any of that the actor's choice? It's not the actor who decides what the costume will look like or whether to hire a dialect coach. Either way, bleaching her hair completely white would be next to impossible, not to mention her hair was always worn short, so she'd need a wig anyway. And Kirsten Dunst wore a wig in the first Spider-Man, by the way. A huge number of hairstyles seen in movies are merely wigs.

I can't believe you would call Halle a &quot;porn actress&quot; just because she had a sex scene in Monster's Ball. Is that what we think of sex these days? It's so unthinkable to have it in a movie that any sex scene turns out to be porn? Even when it happens to be one of the most disturbing, sad and emotionally devastating sex scenes there's ever been. That scene wasn't about sex, for god's sake. It was about loneliness. And Halle pulled off that role with astonishing prowess.

Halle deserved that Oscar. She shed her entire persona to inhabit that depressing and intriguing character. She was absolutely fearless

[norrinraad]

If you actually think that winning the Academy Award means you really ARE the best, you're only kidding yourself.

Well, duh. Any student of film will tell you that there have been countless cases where the winning of an award has polarized the audience. Hell, in 1980 Scorsese's &quot;Raging Bull&quot; was passed over for Best Picture, losing to Redford's &quot;Ordinary People&quot;. There are just as many folks who think that was a travesty as there are fans who believe justice was done. It all depends on which film you prefer. It's still all subjective at the end of the day, now isn't it?

The point remains, as Bigkid pointed out, that an Oscar is still the highest honour an actor working in Hollywood can receive. If Halle were really this talentless pathetic bimbo with only T&amp;A to offer, as you have done your best to convince us she is, I seriously doubt she would have been so honoured by her peers. Was her acting in Monster's Ball the best of the year? Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't, depending on your perspective. However, it was a wonderful performance that the Academy felt deserved the highest possible honour. Pretty impressive for such a talentless hack, no? :roll: :roll:

I can't believe you would call Halle a &quot;porn actress&quot; just because she had a sex scene in Monster's Ball. Is that what we think of sex these days? It's so unthinkable to have it in a movie that any sex scene turns out to be porn? Even when it happens to be one of the most disturbing, sad and emotionally devastating sex scenes there's ever been. That scene wasn't about sex, for god's sake. It was about loneliness. And Halle pulled off that role with astonishing prowess.

Halle deserved that Oscar. She shed her entire persona to inhabit that depressing and intriguing character. She was absolutely fearless.

Amen brother, Amen.

[rainbeaux]

[quote=&quot;norrinraad&quot;][
The point remains, as Bigkid pointed out, that an Oscar is still the highest honour an actor working in Hollywood can receive.

:roll: Hmmm and I thought Oscar meant showing off your expensive designer duds, flashing the overpriced jewelry, and displaying your recent cosmetic procedures. Oh and let's not forget the long drawn out speeches of thanking everyone from the catering service to their P. R. crew for shamelessly advertising that their client really deserved the golden statuette. :roll: :roll: :roll: Yes, we all know that the Oscars is a truly humbling experience that really influences our lives in a positive and meaningful way. 8)

[Essex]

Yes, we all know that the Oscars is a truly humbling experience that really influences our lives in a positive and meaningful way. 8)

Jeez, who said it did? Norrin simply said that for an actor, it's the highest honour there is. That is undeniably true. Nobody's claiming the Academy Awards have some kind of impact on society...

[rainbeaux]

Yes, we all know that the Oscars is a truly humbling experience that really influences our lives in a positive and meaningful way. 8)

Jeez, who said it did? Norrin simply said that for an actor, it's the highest honour there is. That is undeniably true. Nobody's claiming the Academy Awards have some kind of impact on society...

8) If they wanted to honor the best in filmmaking, they why don't they honor ALL of the best of the year's films instead of having a competiton that involves an overbloated ceremony. I've always believed the Oscars were all hype and very little about substance. If you look back on past winners, Titanic as best movie? Sure it was a blockbuster but take away the CGI and the big ship, there's not much there. And Marissa Tomei as best supporting actress for My Cousin Vinney? Well, she got the career post Oscar curse. In an ideal world, all the films recognized would get an award but since we love competition, we have to prove that only one is the can be superior above all others so they can shove that big golden phallic symbol in the losers' face just to say nah nah nah. :roll: :roll: :roll: Give me an award show that exemplifies the spirit of filmmaking, where you can make a bad indie film that is incoherent, gets panned by the audiences and the critics alike, and still be honored as the worst film ever made. No I'm not talking Catwoman or Showgirls or even the Brown Bunny, yes it's the Razzies, folks. The Razzies that celebrate the various worst in filmmaking and no one cares about your claptrap of a film. The Razzies! Say it with me folks, the Razzies! One more time. The Razzies! Let's petition for a broadcast of this ceremony! The Razzies! Woohoo! :wink: :lol: :wink: :lol:

[norrinraad]

Hmmm and I thought Oscar meant showing off your expensive designer duds, flashing the overpriced jewelry, and displaying your recent cosmetic procedures. Oh and let's not forget the long drawn out speeches of thanking everyone from the catering service to their P. R. crew for shamelessly advertising that their client really deserved the golden statuette.

Yep, there is alot of pomp and ceremony involved, no doubt. However, why do you think that is?? If it's a show the public demands, let's give them one! Sure, the ratings may be down in North America, but globally speaking the Oscars are still a big deal, with millions to be made from product advertising, both on the show and at commercial breaks. Advertisers pay big money for spots during the telecast, and why do you think every major designer wants to dress the stars on the big night? Also, when you consider that a win can add millions to a film's gross (not to mention DVD sales), it's no wonder such a big deal is made out of promoting the event. As long as there is $$$ to be made and the public continues to turn out in huge numbers, the show will continue to be &quot;event&quot; television. Besides, some people tune in just in the hopes that they'll get to see a star make an ass out of him/herself :P

As for the PR that goes into the nominations, well, I believe the explanation is obvious. So many films are released in any given year, with a good percentage of them being worthy films. No one whats to see their client's work get lost in the shuffle. Also, bringing it back down to the $$$, a win means the star's asking price goes up, and that means agents/managers/public relations reps take home more $$$ too. You do the math.

Yes, we all know that the Oscars is a truly humbling experience that really influences our lives in a positive and meaningful way.

People crave glamour dude, that's just the reality. If we as a society didn't, there would be no star system. Really, the desire to hold certain people up on a pedestal is as old as the human race itself. The theatre performers were reverred in ancient times, and the Church officials/Monarchy in Medieval times. If anything, celebrity as we know it now is just a continuation of what has always existed.

Give me an award show that exemplifies the spirit of filmmaking, where you can make a bad indie film that is incoherent, gets panned by the audiences and the critics alike, and still be honored as the worst film ever made. No I'm not talking Catwoman or Showgirls or even the Brown Bunny, yes it's the Razzies, folks. The Razzies that celebrate the various worst in filmmaking and no one cares about your claptrap of a film. The Razzies! Say it with me folks, the Razzies! One more time. The Razzies! Let's petition for a broadcast of this ceremony! The Razzies! Woohoo!

I couldn't agree more, actually. I would LOVE to see the Razzies telecast! And I suspect it would be a ratings winner too. Unfortunately, they are an independent body and Hollywood sees it as counter-productive to celebrate their misfires. It would make for a fun night of TV though, no doubt!
___________
&quot;Reality is perception. If you want something to exist, just believe in it&quot;

[rainbeaux]

[quote=&quot;norrinraad
I couldn't agree more, actually. I would LOVE to see the Razzies telecast! And I suspect it would be a ratings winner too. Unfortunately, they are an independent body and Hollywood sees it as counter-productive to celebrate their misfires. It would make for a fun night of TV though, no doubt!
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&quot;Reality is perception. If you want something to exist, just believe in it&quot;[/quote]

True Dat 8)

[DS]

Everytime I see her &quot;playing&quot; Storm in those horrible wigs and terrible &quot;African&quot; accent it just makes me wince. She can't bleach her hair or hire a vocal coach??? To me, that's not taking time, that's just being lazy to collect a check.

What? Since when is any of that the actor's choice? It's not the actor who decides what the costume will look like or whether to hire a dialect coach.

Since she won the Academy Award for Best Actress in 2001. After that, she could pretty much write her own ticket to have her roles modified anyway she wanted... and she DID. In X2 (2003) and the upcoming X3, she negotiated (demanded) both higher paychecks and beefed-up roles in the films, as a direct result of her winning the Oscar.

I'm certainly not begrudging her that — it's reasonable given her much higher profile. But it's extremely telling that even with her dramatically increased &quot;creative pull,&quot; she still didn't care enough about the role to either dye her hair, get a convincing wig made, or hire a vocal coach.

And as I said, that's just lazy: putting money and screentime ahead of doing a good job.

Either way, bleaching her hair completely white would be next to impossible
Why? Is she Kryptonian?

Remember Sisqo from &quot;The Thong Song?&quot; If HE can bleach/color his hair platinum white, I see no reason why Oscar-winner Halle in a $100 million+ budget movie can't, as well.
&quot;thong, thongthong, thong, thong...&quot;

not to mention her hair was always worn short, so she'd need a wig anyway.
Actually, her hair length varies A LOT, but even if she IS wearing one of her shorter 'dos... who CARES? Storm's hair length has varied greatly not only in each of the movies (it's short in X3), but in the comics, as well (I STILL want Grace Jones as &quot;mohawk&quot; Storm!). And with her hair shorter, one would think it'd be EASIER to fit her with a good wig, without all of that excess hair to cram underneath, even if she refused to dye her hair (which I still think is lazy and shows a lack of commitment).

And there's no excuse for the latest &quot;Skunk Wig&quot; they have her wearing in the latest film. Are her roots supposedly showing now??? Yuck. It's like she doesn't care how silly she looks wearing those things.

And Kirsten Dunst wore a wig in the first Spider-Man, by the way. A huge number of hairstyles seen in movies are merely wigs.
And if they're CONVINCING, more power to them. But if they're as blatantly bad as Halle Berry's have been in ALL of the X-Men movies — especially with her studio power — for heaven's sake, have a GOOD wig made, bleach your dang hair or even keep your NORMAL hair, if you really have to. The wigs look THAT bad, even to a layperson... and it just kills any illusion that she's the character she's been hired to play.

It's even worse than Jessica Alba's farce of bleaching her hair and wearing blue contacts to convince people she was a WASP in the FF movie.

I can't believe you would call Halle a &quot;porn actress&quot; just because she had a sex scene in Monster's Ball. Is that what we think of sex these days? It's so unthinkable to have it in a movie that any sex scene turns out to be porn?
Wow... great job jumping to a conclusion, Essex. I never said that ALL sex scenes were porn, or even that all of Halle Berry's sex scenes were porn.

What I'm saying is that the sex scene in question was very reminiscent of porn, mainly because of the drawn-out multiple orgasms Halle was moaning to, which seemed to go on and on... and on... for no reason other than to have her keep orgasming (is that a word?). Billy-Bob's on top... then Halle's on top... then Billy-Bob goes down on her... all to the continual melodies of Halle's moans.

I literally looked at my watch during that scene and my friend and I started laughing because it went on for so long. &quot;They're having sex and Halle LIKES IT... we GET it!&quot; Sorry, but that ain't acting to me. It may be fun, but nothing that earns an Oscar, in my opinion.

That scene wasn't about sex, for god's sake. It was about loneliness. And Halle pulled off that role with astonishing prowess.
Yes... she certainly showed... &quot;astonishing prowess&quot;... ;)

Halle deserved that Oscar. She shed her entire persona to inhabit that depressing and intriguing character. She was absolutely fearless
Man... that'd be funny, if I didn't think you were serious. &quot;Shed her entire persona&quot;??? &quot;Absolutely fearless&quot;??? C'mon!

Halle's played everything from crackheads to slaves and hoochies to heroes in her long career. There was NOTHING is her role in &quot;Monster's Ball&quot; that made it stand out from similar, and better acted, roles she's had in the past (except maybe her &quot;sex scene&quot;).

&quot;Fearless&quot;??? Jodie Foster in &quot;Taxicab&quot; was fearless. Denzel Washington in Malcolm X was fearless. Billy-Bob Thornton in &quot;Slingblade&quot; was fearless. Christian Bale starving himself down to 120 lbs and endangering his health for &quot;The Machinist&quot; was FEARLESS. Even Jake Gyllenhaal in &quot;Brokeback Mountain&quot; and Natalie Portman in &quot;V for Vendetta&quot; (where she actually SHAVED her head on screen) could be described as fearless.

Halle Berry in &quot;Monster's Ball&quot; doesn't even come close to earning that title. If someone else had won the Oscar, instead of her, I don't think her performance in that film would even stand out today.

[Bigkid]

Actually, DS, Jodie Foster was fearless in &quot;Taxi Driver&quot;, not taxicab! Sorry, didn't mean to be picyune (did I spell that right???)

But I do believe that Essex is right, it was a fearless role. To give you a reason why I say this, I remember that shortly after this film came out, Angela Basset was quoted as saying that she'd have NEVER done this role, and that she felt that Halle Berry made herself look like a prostitute, and that she'd demeaned herself (don't quote me on this, I don't know what the EXACT quote was, but it certainly wasn't flattering). I mean, that has to account for something....that one of your peers says something like that over an ACTING GIG that you did!? Even though Ms. Basset didn't care for the movie, it's hard to disagree that, due to those comments, it's hard to NOT see that Halle Berry in some way, in her performance, impacted HER.....in order for her to make a comment like that. Know what I mean?

But, listen, I think we're getting off track here, aren't we........what IS this thread about &amp; called again, ANYWAY??! :lol:

[DS]

Actually, DS, Jodie Foster was fearless in &quot;Taxi Driver&quot;, not taxicab! Sorry, didn't mean to be picyune (did I spell that right???)
Whoops! Oh, well... at least I didn't get it confused with Jimmy Fallon's movie. :)

But I do believe that Essex is right, it was a fearless role. To give you a reason why I say this, I remember that shortly after this film came out, Angela Basset was quoted as saying that she'd have NEVER done this role, and that she felt that Halle Berry made herself look like a prostitute, and that she'd demeaned herself (don't quote me on this, I don't know what the EXACT quote was, but it certainly wasn't flattering). I mean, that has to account for something....that one of your peers says something like that over an ACTING GIG that you did!? Even though Ms. Basset didn't care for the movie, it's hard to disagree that, due to those comments, it's hard to NOT see that Halle Berry in some way, in her performance, impacted HER.....in order for her to make a comment like that. Know what I mean?
I'm not sure if I'd take Angela Bassett saying that I acted like a prostitute (especially if I wasn't PLAYING one) and demeaned myself as an indication that I did a great job in a role. Maybe it was all the moaning... ;)

But, listen, I think we're getting off track here, aren't we........what IS this thread about &amp; called again, ANYWAY??! :lol:
True enough. Okay, I want to see Gina Torres, Angela Bassett, or Grace Jones play Storm in X-Men 3!

... oh, wait... DAMN! :evil:

[Jakerman]

Just saw Jackman on the Tonight Show, they showed a clip from the movie that had the fastball special, and a sentinel! It was awesome.

[Bigkid]

Just saw Jackman on the Tonight Show, they showed a clip from the movie that had the fastball special, and a sentinel! It was awesome.

JAK-E-MON!!

REALLY??! He's out doing pubicity ALREADY?? The film's got about another MONTH to open........they must really want people to get the idea about this film VERY SOON! What was the amount of screen time that they had for The Sentinel?? 8)

[Jakerman]

Well actually, what you see is these eyes way up in the sky and the rest is all in shadows. Then Wolverine gets thrown, you hear some slashing and stuff, and the sentinal's head falls out of the shadows.

[easy D]

Yeah, I saw that, too.
It looked really cool, and there's no doubt that it's the Danger Room.

[Jakerman]

On a side note, Jackman called it the best of the 3.

[Pod]

Yeah, saw it on Leno too. That was so cool. But Collosus's metal looked too much like liquid. I love that line he said to Storm before she spins him too. That was a great clip.

And Jackman has to say it's the best of the 3. If he didn't then wouldn't people feel that they shouldn't see the new movie? Simple marketing technique.

[Bigkid]

Well actually, what you see is these eyes way up in the sky and the rest is all in shadows. Then Wolverine gets thrown, you hear some slashing and stuff, and the sentinal's head falls out of the shadows.

JAKER'S WILD!
Really?? Sounds cool. I, personally, haven't been going online or watching any interviews with the cast or anything like that, because I just want to go in PURE. Too much build up is NEVER really any good. But that bit with The Sentinel sounded cool. :shock:

[Pod]

I just saw another commercial right now and they did have Colossus turning someone else metal!!! :shock: :? What the hell was that? I don't get it. I think this was talked about before but it really messes up the character's powers. Wierd...

[effektdmentality]

it's rogue &quot;borrowing&quot; his powers. :)

[Pod]

it's rogue &quot;borrowing&quot; his powers. :)

That does explain a few things...Hmm...Okay, lets just go with that.

[Pod]

They showed that 7 minute clip of X-men: The Last Stand like an hour ago. It was friggin cool. But you can definitly see the difference in direction and how the characters personalities are different. But damn all of that stuff was so cool!!! And Phoenix has some wierd black eyes too! :shock: Man, I really can't wait to see this. It's more of a comedy/superhero flick than the whole drama thing from the last two. And that beginning scene with Cyclops and Wolvy was kinda wierd because of the pace, maybe that was a bad idea to show at first. Overall it was awesome.

[ironfist07]

Hmm, what I'd like to see in X4?

No more Phoenix. lol (I know we are stuck with it)
Gambit!
Apocalypse &amp; Mr. Sinister
Sunfire and Banshee
Maybe just maybe see oh I don't know... a Brood!
Come on an alien race you'd get Alens meet X-Men Hollywood would love it... a crappy VS. Movie like Freddy Vs Jason. lol!
Just side charcters to tease the moviegoers with, guessing who they are etc. even if they aren't directly in the action.

Look at Kitty for example. 2 movies and she's been a background character. It works.

[Pod]

Aliens in a X-men movie...As Comic Book Guy would say &quot;Worst. Idea. Ever.&quot; :o

[Jakerman]

Not that their word is law, but Ebert and Roeper gave X3 the thumbs up on their show and said it has a good story as well as great action.

[DS]

Good enough. Everything I've heard and read from reviewers who've seen the film say it's as good as the first two, with more action.

[WC]

So apparently Patrick Stewart said in an interview of his character: &quot;&quot;I've disappeared from massive sections of these movies for one obvious reason, you cannot put Xavier in the middle of an action sequence,&quot; Stewart said. &quot;So the moment they start building to that, they've got to find a way of dumping him. And this time they found a very effective way of doing it.&quot;

Would anyone like it if he came back in another X-Men film and could actually walk (like in say, Secret Wars) and could be involved in the battle? Or if he was still paralysed but was commanding his X-Men mentally from behind the scenes at a battle?

[The-Critic]

What the hell? What ever happend to Appcalypse? He has to be in the next movie?

[easy D]

Ok, I'm sure by now, you guys know what I want if they ever make another X-Men.

Well, I got an idea.

The trailer shows the X-Men (Wolverine, Iceman, Colossus, etc.) battling against a new group of the Brotherhood (Magneto's back of course), Juggernaut charges towards the X-Men, when a bright light comes from behind them, and knocks Juggernaut off his feet. They all look turn around and see dust falling from a hole in the wall, and out of the shadows comes a new group of mutants. One of them, a man in a long trenchcoat, carrying a bo, with bright red eyes. Another, a beautiful woman dressed all in white. Another, a large man, bald, possibly 7 or 8 feet tall. And another young man steps out, his jaw and chest, glowing with energy. And finally, a familiar face.

Trailer ends, with Wolverine uttering &quot;Cyclops?&quot;

How's that?

[norrinraad]

How's that?

You got my ten bucks. 8)

[Essex]

The trailer shows the X-Men (Wolverine, Iceman, Colossus, etc.) battling against a new group of the Brotherhood (Magneto's back of course), Juggernaut charges towards the X-Men, when a bright light comes from behind them, and knocks Juggernaut off his feet. They all look turn around and see dust falling from a hole in the wall, and out of the shadows comes a new group of mutants. One of them, a man in a long trenchcoat, carrying a bo, with bright red eyes. Another, a beautiful woman dressed all in white. Another, a large man, bald, possibly 7 or 8 feet tall. And another young man steps out, his jaw and chest, glowing with energy. And finally, a familiar face.

Who's baldy?

Anyway, I like it. Even if ever seeing Chamber on screen is a pipe dream. I'm gonna guess that Fox isn't gonna love a character who can't speak and requires absolutely constant special effects :(

Anyway, I think two different X-Teams is a great idea for X4. Cyclops could be jaded and harsh, making his team into a more X-Force-like group of mutants. Of course the two different teams would be at odds the whole movie, with a specific rivalry between Gambit and Iceman. The only thing that would bring them together as one is the eventual return of Xavier :)

[easy D]

The trailer shows the X-Men (Wolverine, Iceman, Colossus, etc.) battling against a new group of the Brotherhood (Magneto's back of course), Juggernaut charges towards the X-Men, when a bright light comes from behind them, and knocks Juggernaut off his feet. They all look turn around and see dust falling from a hole in the wall, and out of the shadows comes a new group of mutants. One of them, a man in a long trenchcoat, carrying a bo, with bright red eyes. Another, a beautiful woman dressed all in white. Another, a large man, bald, possibly 7 or 8 feet tall. And another young man steps out, his jaw and chest, glowing with energy. And finally, a familiar face.

Who's baldy?

Anyway, I like it. Even if ever seeing Chamber on screen is a pipe dream. I'm gonna guess that Fox isn't gonna love a character who can't speak and requires absolutely constant special effects :(

Anyway, I think two different X-Teams is a great idea for X4. Cyclops could be jaded and harsh, making his team into a more X-Force-like group of mutants. Of course the two different teams would be at odds the whole movie, with a specific rivalry between Gambit and Iceman. The only thing that would bring them together as one is the eventual return of Xavier :)

Baldy's Strong Guy.

Sorry, couldn't think of any other really strong power-house type mutant. I think he could work. I was thinking of putting Cannonball in there, but I think there's already plenty of mutants on Cykes' team.

[Pod]

If I see Gambit in an X-men movie then I'm sold.

And the guy with the glowing jaw and chest, is he of any importance? Meh, sounds wierd.

And what about Prof X...or the guy who's holding Prof X's brain.

[easy D]

If I see Gambit in an X-men movie then I'm sold.

And the guy with the glowing jaw and chest, is he of any importance? Meh, sounds wierd.

And what about Prof X...or the guy who's holding Prof X's brain.

To clear up any confusion (geez, for a comic book website, you guys ain't very well versed about the X-Men :P :wink: )

In order of appearance:
Gambit, Emma Frost, Strong Guy, Chamber, Cyclops.

Gentlemen, and WWG, may I present... X-Factor. (Or X-Force, one of those names).

Now, wouldn't it be cool to see the X-Men fighting the Brotherhood, along with a shaky alliance with Cyclops and X-Factor? (Currently kicking it around in my head, got a pretty funny scene, might write it out on fanfiction.net)

And as for Professor. I'd imagine that the dude's body he inhabits can walk. So, Xavier can simply project his face onto the guy's body. Thus allowing Patrick Stewart to play the role again, if he wishes, and be more active.

[Bigkid]

Well, if 20th Century Fox were to do an X-FORCE film, it would have to include Cable, Shatterstar, Feral (correct?) Plus the other names that escape me right now. But I see that what you are suggesting as that, for the purposes of a film, they don't HAVE to have X-Force from the comics.......just gather a lot of mutants that are easily recognizable in the Marvel Universe, put 'em together and make a new team called X-Force (with the mutants that YOU suggested). Could still work out. I, personally though, would love to see Cable in a film entitled &quot;X-Force.&quot;

[WonderWomanGoddess]

Big kid, I believe X force was originally lead by Cyke and composed of Jean, Havok and some others- it was created after the original x-men (or the current group line up at the time) were destroyed/believed dead/in another dimension or something. Prof X recruited a new batch, which had Storm leading, Wolvie, Rogue, Dazzler I think and maybe Cannonball, and they picked up Jubilee along the way in Australia. Then 'team two' rescued the first team, when it was discovered they were alive, and 'team one' lead by Cyclops, became X-factor, which was originally more like a family...with Scott and Alex the brothers, and for a time, Scott and the real Jean raising Nathan. It was only so much later, in the nineties that nathan, as Cable, would lead the version of X-Force you are talking about.

But don't quote me on that, that's just from memory.

[easy D]

Yeah, I was gonna call them X-Factor, bur someone else said X-Force, and I think that sounds better.

[The Xenos]

Hey.. what if we had Ultimate Nick Fury played by Samuel L Jackson. Then, what if we had Hydra release deadly snakes when he was aboard their jet?

&quot;WE GOT MOTHA&amp;*#$%IN SNAKES ON A MOTHA&amp;*#$%IN X-JET!&quot;

Ok, ok. I must admit I'm not the first person to connect Ult Nick Fury with SoaP. http://www.passfailstudios.com/index.php?id=1

[WonderWomanGoddess]

&quot;WE GOT MOTHA&amp;*#$%IN SNAKES ON A MOTHA&amp;*#$%IN X-JET!&quot;


HAHAHAHAHAHA!! :lol:

[Bigkid]

Big kid, I believe X force was originally lead by Cyke and composed of Jean, Havok and some others- it was created after the original x-men (or the current group line up at the time) were destroyed/believed dead/in another dimension or something. Prof X recruited a new batch, which had Storm leading, Wolvie, Rogue, Dazzler I think and maybe Cannonball, and they picked up Jubilee along the way in Australia. Then 'team two' rescued the first team, when it was discovered they were alive, and 'team one' lead by Cyclops, became X-factor, which was originally more like a family...with Scott and Alex the brothers, and for a time, Scott and the real Jean raising Nathan. It was only so much later, in the nineties that nathan, as Cable, would lead the version of X-Force you are talking about.

But don't quote me on that, that's just from memory.

WONDERFULLONE!
Thanks for clearing that up. I never read the comics that were X-Factor, and I always read the X-Force comics.......however, I never read further along that series to discover who Cable really was........in essence, you've just given me the identity of Cable.......and I'm to assume that Nathan was a child at the time of X-Factor, and that Cable, who later turned out to be a time traveler, was REALLY the child Nathan? NOW....... one more bit of history that you can clear up for me....... :lol: ......... could you please explain to me who Nathan was to Scott &amp; Jean?

(I know, I know........this should be something I'm already aware of!) :D

[Znluvx]

......... could you please explain to me who Nathan was to Scott &amp; Jean?

(I know, I know........this should be something I'm already aware of!) :D

If I'm correct, Nathan was Scott and Madelyne Pryor's (Jean's clone cooked up by Mr. Sinister) son. After her death, Jean and Scott raised Nathan toether, until he contracted the &quot;Legacy virus&quot; (not sure if that's right) and was taken into the future by the Askani(?) and cured.

[B]

I think WWG's confused X-Factor with the new (1975) X-Men... or something. :? X-Factor was the original X-Men (Scott, Jean, Hank, Bobby and Warren) posing as mutant hunters to rescue mutants (yeah, it doesn't make much sense) and not associating with the X-Men because the latter were then consorting with Magneto. And then the X-Men died and went to Australia. :lol: X-Factor eventually turned into a government-sponsored mutant team, with Havok, Polaris and some other people. Not really sure what happened between, though I think the original X-Factor rejoined the X-Men at some point (X-Men #1?).

The Professor X recruiting a new batch of X-Men to save the originals thing would be the new X-Men of the mid-70s... Wolvie, Storm, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Banshee plus Thunderbird and Sunfire. And Cyclops. Rogue and Dazzler joined later. Cannonball joined after he left X-Force, so YEARS later.

X-Force were basically the New Mutants after Cable took over, I think. I don't know for sure, cause I never particularly liked the book.

And I think Znluvx got the bizarre convoluted origin of Cable right.

[WonderWomanGoddess]

Ooops, thanks B. That was all before my time so I only have trade paper backs (that I mostly just read or check out and never buy) and old back issues that I haven't read in ages to go by...but I do think I have some kind of Marvel encyclopedia around here somewhere...

And yeah, I never got into the X-factor or X-force of the nineties, either.

You are correct about Nathan's origins, but don't forget that he was later rewritten to actually be raised from about 4-5 until I dunno, 10-12 by Scott and Jean themselves. This was a storyline that took place after they got married; they were zapped into the future by the Askani to help care for Nathan...since he believed his parents dead, Scott and Jean went under the alias' of Slim and Red and never told him they were essentially his real parents. SO they did KINDA raise him for a while in the future...

And you don't even wanna know who Strife is... :lol:

[B]

Oh yeah, the Cyclops and Phoenix miniseries... I vaguely remember that, though I never properly read it. Stryfe is, of course, the evil clone of Cable. Because anything needlessly confusing and irritating in Marvel tends to involve clones, after all. Ah, the good old days...

[B]

And no, sorry, I don't have anything to actually contribute to this thread. I'd need to read the past fifteen pages of discussion to do that, and I really don't want to. :lol:

Well, okay. No idea what everyone else has been saying, but I'd like to see them do Days of Future Past, which was an excellent story. (First time around, anyway) I think it would translate well to film, also. If nothing else, since X2 was vaguely based on God Loves, Man Kills, and Last Stand was vaguely based on the Dark Phoenix Saga, doing Days of Future Past would continue the process of ripping off the all-conquering classics of X-Men continuity. ;) I also like EasyD's idea of Cyclops (or someone else, though Cyke's the best choice based on X3) being disenchanted with the X-Men and setting up a third mutant group. Their approach would have to fundamentally differ from the X-Men, of course, otherwise what's the point?

[easy D]

Well, I'm thinking they would be like a group of mutant bounty hunters. So something like the original origin of X-Factor. And, since Cyclops would be busy trying to bring down the Brotherhood, instead of trying to protect humans, the X-Men would try to stop Cyclops and X-Factor from creating any collateral damage. So there, you'd have a battle royale between the X-Men (Storm, Wolverine, Colossus, Iceman, Kitty Pryde), the Brotherhood (Magneto, Pyro, Juggernaut, Toad, and Sabretooth (yes, I want them back!!)), and X-Factor (Cyclops, Emma Frost, Gambit, Chamber, and Strong Guy).

And the only thing that would bring Cyclops back from the brink, would be the return of (a walking!!) Professor X.

[Bigkid]

I just caught an OXYGEN original movie (yes, I know what you're thinking.........OXYGEN???) But I read a review today on this original film called &quot;Banshee&quot;, and I've gotta tell you......this actress who played the title character.......Taryn Manning (of &quot;Hustle &amp; Flow&quot;)........was terrific. I couldn't help but think that THIS was the actress to play Emma Frost. If ANYBODY has seen this film, and you all know to whom I'm referring to......Please.........SHARE.......with me your thoughts if I'm onto something here. Because, from the little that I know of the character, and from what I saw of this gal tonight, I think 20th Century Fox could REALLY do themselves a favor by casting this little lady. She's really good. My original choice for this role was Kim Raver (she played Keifer Sutherland's girlfriend the past 2 seasons on &quot;24&quot;), but after seeing THIS actress, I've gotta change me mind! 8)

[Znluvx]

I'm sure someone else stated this (here or in a similiar thread) but I would like to see that annual right of spring/summer from the comics...

the all mutant, &quot;no powers&quot; softball game!