Toad, Sabertooth & Deathstrike dead or not?

[RyanArya]

What do you think?

I think Lady Deathstrike is dead, how could she survive that? =/

[Darth_zaiyen]

Toad is probably being treated somewhere (or treating himself) for 2nd and/or 3rd degree burns. Probably hard for him to swallow anything, and his whole body is sore from the lightning. I doubt Storm would kill him, she doesn't kill, she just hurts you a bit with her cheesy dialogue.

As for Sabretooth, he's alive. No doubt about it. I really could see him coming back in a Wolvie solo movie (or maybe the brotherhood in X3?)

Lady Deathstrike is dead. Figures that Wolverine would kill the hot one, but leave the hairy, ugly one to run free. http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wolvie.gif

[brokenstatue2001]

They are still alive. I'm most doubtful of Toad, though. Deathstrike could come back, right now she's just waiting for someone to pull that adamantium outta her (Magneto, where are you?). I hope they all come back for X3, I really like Toad.

[Darth_zaiyen]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brokenstatue2001:
Deathstrike could come back, right now she's just waiting for someone to pull that adamantium outta her (Magneto, where are you?)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whaaaaaaaa? She may have a healing factor like Wolverine, but she still needs to breathe. Not only were her sinus cavities filled with adamantium, but she's being held under under tons of water (remember, the dam broke and flooded the underground facility. That much pressure and lack of oxygen would most certainly insure her demise. There is no way Deathstrike is coming back.

[Sonic1002]

Kelly Hu (deathstrike) is signed up for another movie.

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[StormMaster]

Just as Toad and Sabretooth were for X-Men2. I think, as I think I've said before, it would be for any possible Mystique 'guises, though Sabretooth has to be alive since when the camera pointed down to where he'd fallen on the boat, he was gone...plus he's just as powerful (in terms of fighting and healing factor) as Wolvie. Deathstryke, I believe, is gone, but as aforementioned, I think the like to leave their options open incase they decide to have Mystique get a little creative.

[Bigkid]

I would have to say that Lady Deathstryke is most CERTAINLY no longer with us! I always wondered aloud myself about whatever happened to those two (Sabertooth, Toad), I think that they are BOTH somewhere out there in the film world, it's just a matter of time, though, before Bryan Singer and his writer's figure out a way to get them back into the swing.

[bottleHeD]

Toad was real kewl, he should definetely be back with some more killer lines.. As for Sabretooth, he looked like a stuffed toy. They should infect him with a wee bit more of a personality..

[brokenstatue2001]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Darth_zaiyen:
Whaaaaaaaa? She may have a healing factor like Wolverine, but she still needs to breathe. Not only were her sinus cavities filled with adamantium, but she's being held under under tons of water (remember, the dam broke and flooded the underground facility. That much pressure and lack of oxygen would most certainly insure her demise. There is no way Deathstrike is coming back.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

well she is a cyborg, right? maybe she could come back as a cyborg, if they wanted to.

[GRIM]

I would love to see sabertooth comeback, but in a different form, more of the psycho murderous guy with a sick sence of humor type I Know him as. Build on His and Wolvies relationship a little more, explain that back in X1 Tooth hadnt any memories of him past self, as a matter of fact, his brain was reverted back to a stae of stupidity, but with all the other massive wounds he induced his healing factor went on overdrive and ended up healing his brain too. And just for a twist, have him reavel a little more about wolvies past, and thier realtionship. Now Logan must hunt down the one know as Sabertooth for answers about his past. KICKASS! But thats just me, im a Wolvie nut.

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[Darth_zaiyen]

I would like Magneto to reform the Brotherhood, with some other mutants from the comics along with Mystique and Pyro (and revealed at a later point: Sabretooth). At some point, Wolverine could be attacked, and out jumps Sabretooth, who, kind of like GRIM stated, shows some more of his twisted humor, calling Wolvie runt, and maybe revealing some stuff about his past.

[Bigkid]

Judging from the last two posts on this topic, are you guy's saying that Sabertooth was a made for the same Weapon X people? I ask this because I don't KNOW the origin of Sabertooth, I briefly remember reading about him in the comics, but I didn't know that he and Logan both shared a similar past. Or if they even KNEW each other in the first place.

[norrinraad]

In Ultimate continuity (which the movies seem to be following more closely) both Logan's and Sabertooth's pasts seem to be intertwined with Weapon X. I like Millar's comic book portrayal of Sabertooth far more than the grunting neanderthal we got in the first movie. More of a cocky, smartass persona would be cool if he ever makes it back into the franchise.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norrinraad:
In Ultimate continuity (which the movies seem to be following more closely) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where are you guys getting that perception from? I've been reading back issues of Ultimate titles. There is hardly anything in them to make me think that the movies are using Ulitmate stories more as a guide than the original stories from the classic Marvel Universe.

[norrinraad]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
Where are you guys getting that perception from?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not so much the actual storylines, DK, but look at the original lineup. We had Marvel Girl, Cyclops, Angel, Beast, Iceman. This of course differs from the movie and Ultimate lineups. In the first Ultimate issue both Storm and Wolvie were introduced, which of course didn't happen in the Mainstream Universe until the classic Giant Sized X-Men. And in both movie and Ultimate versions, Magneto had already established his Brotherhood, Jean and Logan developed a mutual attraction, Iceman and Angel were not original members, etc etc. If you look at the Ultimate series, the similarities between it and the movie franchise are greater than between the Classic universe and the movies.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norrinraad:
Not so much the actual storylines, DK, but look at the original lineup. We had Marvel Girl, Cyclops, Angel, Beast, Iceman. This of course differs from the movie and Ultimate lineups. In the first Ultimate issue both Storm and Wolvie were introduced, which of course didn't happen in the Mainstream Universe until the classic Giant Sized X-Men. And in both movie and Ultimate versions, Magneto had already established his Brotherhood, Jean and Logan developed a mutual attraction, Iceman and Angel were not original members, etc etc. If you look at the Ultimate series, the similarities between it and the movie franchise are greater than between the Classic universe and the movies.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The first X-Men film came out before Ultimate X-men so its not likely any influence came from a comic that did not exist at the time the movie was in production. The lineup similarities don't mean anything because the Fox X-Men animated series had a similar lineup to the movie as well. No, the movies are not influenced by the Ultimate titles more than the mainstream Marvel Universe. In fact, in the case of X-Men, the influence was never even there to begin with.

Now Spider-Man on the other hand took a little from Ultimate Spider-Man, but its still a stretch to say the film was based more on the Ultimate title than the classic Spidey.

[norrinraad]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
The first X-Men film came out before Ultimate X-men so its not likely any influence came from a comic that did not exist at the time the movie was in production.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! Very true but I have read Avi Arad say many times that Fox wanted the movie franchise and X-Men Evolution to be cross-identifiable, while Marvel wanted the Ultimate line to capitalize on the success of the movies by more closely approximating the mileu established in the films. Therefore we have Storm and Wolverine in Ultimate X-Men, Mary Jane in Ultimate Spidey surviving her encounter with the Green Goblin, etc. Considering that Arad executive produces these films, I assume his comments reflect Marvel management's position where this is concerned. Do a google search on Arad and you will most likely come across an interview where he addresses this very point.

Your argument is sound though. New X-Men under Morrison and Quitely/Jimenez also cops the mutants' movie look, and this series is firmly rooted in the Classic Universe. I just think Marvel wanted to capitalize on the film all across the board, which is perfectly understandable.

[bottleHeD]

just been reading some issues of Weapon X "the hunt for sabretooth", and THAT is the kind of sabretooth that would really kick some serious Wolverine ass in the movie.

On a related note, Dougray Scott would have been a better wolverine than Hugh Jackman. What say u

[Darth_zaiyen]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bottleHeD:
On a related note, Dougray Scott would have been a better wolverine than Hugh Jackman. What say u<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, thats not really a related note to this topic of discussion at all, please try and stay on subject. If you want to complain about Hugh's casting, go to a more appropriate topic.

[multis]

Death strike could come back a cyborg
if Toad is a live i would love to see a show down with nightcrawler

of sabertooth as a reject weapon x project

[multis]

Death strike could come back a cyborg
if Toad is a live i would love to see a show down with nightcrawler

or sabertooth as a reject weapon x project

[bottleHeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Darth_zaiyen:
Yeah, thats not really a related note to this topic of discussion at all, please try and stay on subject. If you want to complain about Hugh's casting, go to a more appropriate topic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Heheheh, alrite, Prime Director guy, i'll try not to wander off again..

[imported_GIRLIE]

Lady Deathstrike may not come back in the movies, but in the cartoon and the comics she does. Her and Wolverine share some sort of....well, sorted affair.

[norrinraad]

And aren't there also rumours of Sabretooth returning for the second sequel?

[kidcomix]

Always remember the Comic Book Rule.

"No one ever truly dies in a comic book. They may be resurrected, reincarnated, switch bodies, take possession of a new host, be cloned, magically transformed into a new being, get turned into a cybernetic weapon of mass destruction, turns into a godlike etheral being, has their molecules reorganized into another being, or has their orgin reinvented by a new storyteller."

Don't be surprised to see them in X3.

[MarcoPolo]

I would like to see Sabretooth return in the next film, and I think it would make sense. But he's gotta lose the uni-brow and the crappy caveman jacket. Also as mentioned before, a little closer attention to his character traits would be appreciated. As for Deathstrike, scratch her off the list because she's toast. Besides, we saw all we needed to see in her fight against Wolvie. There are so many cool villians out there,like the Juggernaught, that I think they should move on. Also, even though he's not a villian, I want to see WAAAAAY more Collusus..And Ice Man in his Ice form would be cool.

[t_bolt7]

haha i think it's weird how wolverine first appeared in the incredible hulk comics...imagine the two fighting against each other or together....

does anyone remember that in the first x-men movie, sabretooth kept taking wolverine's army tags..it was like they had some past together...does anyone know what it was??