Ashton Kutchner to play Batman?

[webslinger2k]

just reading up on my daily fim gossip and noticed that one of the articles referred to Ashton Kutchner turning down the roles in the new knightrider adaptaion, as well as turning down the red cape! now what man on earth would turn down the chance to bring back Superman for a multi million pound franchise rebirth? - i'll tell you who! the man that has reportedly signed up to be th caped crusader!!!!

i dont know how much truth is in it, but it is a very interesting rumour thats for sure!

[ModeMan]

It's Ashton Kutcher, bro.

And that's exactly what we need in Batman. When trying to stop some criminals he can trip over his cape and hold his injured head in an overly-dramatic manor. When Commissioner Gordon chews him out, Batman can say, "Geez, Commish, I tried really really hard. DAMN!"

Yeah... I'd be thrilled if Ashton Kutcher played Batman. http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/frown.gif

[This message has been edited by ModeMan (edited 05-14-2003).]

[Sonic1002]

oh, my dear God.

[The Xenos]

Dude, where's my car? Chicks dig the car.

-Xenos

[akira842]

this is gonna suck.

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[Captain America]

Lets all pray to God this Kutcher doesn't play Batman. After seeing Equilibrium, i've come to the conclusion that Christian Bale would be a pretty good Bruce Wayne.

[The Xenos]

Ooops. Forgot there already was a thread. I just read over at SHH (http://www.superherohype.com/cgi-bin/news/fullnews.cgi?newsid1056202774,30970,) about mor alk of this rumor which might prove some truth to it. Now it sounds like the studio would want him in the role. Knowing how stupid they can be, I wouldn't be surprised. Persoanlly, I rather like the suggestion of Guy Pierce for Batman. Heck, I liked him for DD when someone suggested it. Actually, now I hear talk of Jason Behr for Superman due to Frakes possible involvement, but I thought of him as a good idea (http://www.comics2film.com/DCG/DispArt.php3?f_id=1012&f_ssn=) for Batman Year One. Also even for Year One I like Bale.

But you see that would be inteligent casting and Kutcher would be the type of stupid casting I have come to expect from Warner and non-Marvel films.

-Xenos

[The Xenos]

Dude, I just realized, (scroll down 1 pic)this (http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1449&p=10) could become a reality!

runs away in horror,
-Xenos

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[Sonic1002]

Dude, where's my batmobile? God, this scares me. If they thought Batman and Robin destroyed the franchise, then they ain't seen nothing yet.

-Sonic1002

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[Minority Reporter]

The scary part is, there are some people at SHH! That prefer Kutcher over Bale and Pearce....

[The Xenos]

Just was looking over at the big SHH thread.

Well, still don't like him, but two comments made me think it a bit less foolish.

One, someone said he'd make a better Terrt in Batman Beyond. Could be better there.

Two, the biggie, M Knight Shalyman cast him in his next film, The Woods. Now if he does well in this film, it could convince me he is Bat worthy or at least a decent dramatic actor. Even if he proves himself a good serious actor, he still may be not right for Batman. There are a number of good actors not right for the part.

Also, I noticed that Bale and Peice are favories. Though some also mentioned an old perosnal pick of Jason Behr, "that guy form Roswell".

-Xenos

[webslinger2k]

a little update on this stroy....

not only does it appear that Ashton is in th running to play the caped crusader!! but he is apparantly the ONLY candidate!!

read on...

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Batman 5: Every now and then news comes along that scares the hell out of me, today is no exception. According to E! Online it seems that not only is Ashton Kutchner a candidate for the role of Batman, he is in fact the ONLY candidate. Seems that "when now out director Brett Ratner got close to casting Superman this year, he tested and retested Kutcher, who apparently did well. The "known mostly as a comic actor and that's even a stretch" Kutcher seemed to want Bats over Supes (who wouldn't?) and is now close to being announced as the lead in the flick to be directed by Christopher Nolan". This rumour was backed up by a report from DH insider 'Turncoat' who elaborates a bit more on the situation - "Christopher Nolan wants Guy Pearce. I think that's about the extent of it. Essentially, the studio has had another 'Ratner' situation on their hands, because the director wants someone, and the studio wants someone else. That someone the studio wants is Ashton Kutcher. Thankfully, it's not as big a deal as the whole Superman thing [which has been madness], because in this place everyone gets along - and from what I hear Kutcher is the new Batman. Done deal". Thanks to 'JHBlade' & 'Micah'.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[norrinraad]

I find it funny that anyone would be up in arms over this casting. Kutchner is an actor and I'm sure he is capable of playing different types of roles. Does anyone really think he stumbles around all day in a stupor going "dude, where's my car keys"? http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/rolleyes.gif
Keanu Reeves made two Bill & Ted films, yet I think we can all agree that he's pretty effective as Neo, a roll as far removed from those films as Batman would be from "That 70s Show". Kutchner is young, tall, handsome and built, so he would work as a Bruce Wayne just starting out as the Dark Knight. Now the question is, can he convey the darkness in the character's soul? As Zenos pointed out, it's unlikely that Shalyman would cast him in his next project if he were really that incompetent. I doubt he would want a surfer dude in his movie. Just like Brad Pitt did in Kalifornia and Tom Cruise did in Interview With The Vampire, this may be Ashton's shot to show what he's really capable of.

[D.K.HOOD]

Oh man, I actually laughed out loud when I read this:

Robbo's quote from today's news at CBR: In what is surely a sign of the impending apocalypse, E! Online is reporting that Aston Kutcher ("Punk'd", "Dude, Where's my Car?") is not just rumored, but favored for the role of "Batman" in the upcoming production.

I'm not sure if its a sign Robbo, maybe its actually the apocalypse happening right now.

[Frostbite]

But that's not supposed to happen until 2012! Damn Ashton Kutcher, interrupting the Mayans' doomsday prophecies!

[D.K.HOOD]

Does anybody else see the irony in the fact that a goofball like Kutcher, who hosts a show that pulls pranks, has been reported to be considered for two big name superhero roles(Superman and Batman)?

[themanwithoutfear]

what i find strange is that this is abtman 1 all over again. here we have a director who is very good and has that creepy sense ( like tim burton) and we have a comedian cast in the role of bats ( like michal keaton) and the fans are up in arms over it.

(i dont think kutcher is right for the role)

[Sonic1002]

*shudders*

[Essex]

Kutcher certainly isn't anywhere on my list of favoured actors for the role, but I agree with Norrin. He IS an actor and I think he should at least be given a chance to prove himself. A high-profile picture like Batman probably isn't the place, but there are people in the industry who have seen stuff from him that we haven't. Let's see what this guy can do first.

Had you never heard of him before, would you be condemning him? He's well over six feet tall, well-built, handsome. That seems to fit the description of what fans want in a younger Batman. He has already been type-cast, but I think he deserves at least one chance to break out of that before we all jump down his throat.

I'm not saying everyone should be in favour of Kutcher in the role. We'd all prefer Guy Pearce or Christian Bale or whomever, but Kutcher may not be the worst choice in the world. OR, he may be. We really don't know. So let's just wait and see.

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[Sonic1002]

http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/rolleyes.gif

Well, he has potential. I was looking on BOF and saw some pictures of him. He kinda did do a good dark look. I was impressed. He could pull this off if he can pull that look for the whole movie. It's one thing to pose for a still shot. It a completely different thing to keep that look on a moving camera for a 2 hour movie. But he has potential. I'll give him that much. Keaton did well, maybe he can too.
-Sonic1002
PS: I'd rather see Hayden Christensen (ANAKIN!!!). If they want a dark, young lad, he's the one right there.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[D.K.HOOD]

Keaton had proven himself in dramatic roles before taking on Batman but even he wasn't that great, and Kutcher is just goofy. There's no way to get around it, he's not a good enough actor to hide how goofy he is. Plus he doesn't strike me as being half as smart as Michael Keaton is, which is something that anyone playing Bruce Wayne/Batman should bring to the table.

[Essex]

Well, before acting, Kutcher was a student majoring in Biochemical Engineering, if I'm not mistaken...might have to be pretty smart to get into that http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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"That which does not kill us...makes us stranger." - Trevor Goodchild, Aeon Flux

[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Essex:
<B>Well, before acting, Kutcher was a student majoring in Biochemical Engineering, if I'm not mistaken...might have to be pretty smart to get into that http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I think brains *sarcastic* might be just a small factor in bio chemical engineering. Well, isn't he doing that M. Night's movie in 2004? This will be a good way to test his dramatic acting ability. Well, time will tell.
-SOnic1002

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Essex:
<B>Well, before acting, Kutcher was a student majoring in Biochemical Engineering, if I'm not mistaken...might have to be pretty smart to get into that http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So in other words, he's not dumb, he's just a dork.

[norrinraad]

"Having acquired legions of loyal female followers with his portrayal of the ever-horny and dimwitted Kelso in the popular television comedy series That 70s Show, it may come as a surprise that male model-turned-actor Ashton Kutcher ironically majored in biochemical engineering at the University of Iowa before his "discovery" in an Iowa bar and subsequent stint on the catwalk for such fashion industry luminaries as Versace and Calvin Klein".

"As Kelso, Kutcher strikes a near-perfect balance between savvy and giddy; his superlative dumb-blonde schtick, for instance, is the kind of performance only an intelligent actor can deliver".

-Yahoo Movies, IMDb.com

No I'm not his agent http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif and like Essex, I would vastly prefer to see Christian Bale in this role. However, if Kutcher gets it, give him a chance. He just may surprise us all.

[D.K.HOOD]

So he's a pretty dork. That does not warrant giving him a crack at playing the Dark Knight. Give him Nightwing or even better yet give him Plastic Man, but don't f**k around with Batman.

[norrinraad]

*Sigh*

You're a hard nut to crack, DK...

http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif

[WC]

OK, I don't actually know who Aston Kutcher is, but when I heard that he played in That 70s Show, I remember having seen an episode or two of it, and that definitely spells bad news. That was just an idiotic show which wasn't even funny.

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[The Xenos]

NO! Don't give him Nightwing... I'm Nightwing. Babs (and Helena) is mine dammit! ..oh... wait.. that was out loud.. crap..

-Xenos

[brokenstatue2001]

i don't know what to say. i mean, maybe he is a better actor than we might know, right?
i mean someone did mention keanu reeves did do a good transition from ted to neo.
oh, god i just wanna curl up in a corner and suck my thumb now.
besides, i thought george clooney was under contract to do another batman movie.

[Sonic1002]

Any ya all read at BOF on who might be Scarecrow? I just read that there is a chance that Christopher Lloyd (Doc Brown) might be the Terror of Gotham. Of course, as Jett (the big dude at BOF) said this is just a rumor. I wouldn't mind seeing this. I truly wouldn't. I also have a thought of someone else who could play Fear Incarnate. I think Matt Frewer (Psi Factor, Gargoyles, Generation X) could play a good Scarecrow, too. He has the slightly psycho/creepy down pat. Anyway, this is Sonic with your evening news. Back to you.....

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[D.K.HOOD]

I can't believe you named 3 Matt Frewer credits without naming "Max Headroom" or "Honey I Shrunk the Kids".

[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
I can't believe you named 3 Matt Frewer credits without naming "Max Headroom" or "Honey I Shrunk the Kids". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They were the three that stuck out to me. Sorry about that.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[imported_StormShadow]

I now have another contender for Batman. On top of my Christian Bale choice, which I still stand by whole heartedly, I seriously would love the see Justin Theroux as Batman/Bruce Wayne. Justin was in Mulholland Drive, has had a reoccuring part on the district, and most will recognize him as Shamus the Irish mafia guy from Charlies Angels:Full Throttle. I just went and saw Charlies angels last night and he blew me away. He was freaky and intense, and built like a Brick Sh!thouse. And he really isn't Irish. Just thought I would throw that in there. I just pray to god we get somebody like this instead of Ashton Kutcher(who I could maybe see as Booster Gold).

[JohnJones]

The casting idea must have come from Tim Burton.

[The Xenos]

Actually, I belive it's more form the Warner suits running the stuidio who I know we have both given a thumbs down to.

-Xenos

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B>Actually, I belive it's more form the Warner suits running the stuidio who I know we have both given a thumbs down to.

-Xenos</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know. Its just hard for me to believe that people can be paid so much to be so stupid. I'm really beginning to think that they are just waiting for Marvel to have a fallout so they can move in and take over the market again. Besides, I think they've been stalling so that audiences will flock to see the Matrix films instead of having to compete with one of their own DC superheroes.

[webslinger2k]

Latest information from a Dark Horizons scooper - they sound pretty good - and DUDE, you may NOT be getting the job!!

i certainly hope that this article is good info, if so there are apparantly 20 names on Nolans list AHEAD of Ashton Kutcher - we are talking semi-established actors ala wes bentley.... i truely hope so...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Batman: 'Frost' has an update on yesterday's news and confirms some things, plus adds others: "Ashton Kutcher. We all know he is the front runner in the Bat-mix. But he is only the WB's front runner. Nolan does not want Kutcher (at least he is definitely not his first choice), as far as Nolan's first choice; he has a lengthy list of unknowns/semi-established actors that will be screen tested in late Summer. Nolan has until the end of August/early September to find a replacement; and from the buzz around the office, it looks like he will do just that (I think someone mentioned about 20 different names in mind?). As far as Nolan wanting Guy Pearce, I wouldn't hold my breath. I think that was mostly rumor that he was going to pull a "Burton" and cast an actor he recently worked with and has a good relationship with. He's looking in the 25-30 range as far as actors go. (As opposed to 18-22). Remember what happened with Spiderman? The Wes Bentley/Di Caprio situation? I am 100% certain that's what is going to happen here. Again, Nolan has until the end of Summer to find his replacement. Chris Lloyd as Scarecrow. Yes, he has been spotted around the backlots. No, we don't know for sure what for. He was spotted with Nolan twice, and then alone the other 3 times. I read a report that he was seen shaking hands with Nolan and had a script in his hand, I can't confirm this, but I will try to look into it to see what I can get out of the situation. Take that last bit with a grain of salt. A damn big one at that. Al Gough as Alfred again? You're on the money. He is both Nolan's and WB's first choice, and will most likely get the role, even though the film is a restart of the franchise. (This is just a way to pay homage to the previous films and keep some familiarity with audiences, because almost nobody else from previous films will be cast)".<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[norrinraad]

This definitely puts a different slant on things, doesn't it? If Nolan doesn't want him then perhaps fan outrage over the potential casting is justified. However, I can't help but wonder if this is all just a smoke screen to try and appease the fans. I remember Anne Rice all up in arms over Tom Cruise's casting as Lestat, but after Interview With The Vampire was completed she was suddenly his biggest champion. Hollywood is mostly all about illusion so we rarely know what's really going on. However, if they go with Bale I will be more than happy.

For the record, I could still live with Kutcher being cast http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif

[Sonic1002]

Well, as I've been reading (this is just hear-say), and they are saying that Kutcher is a "top canidate", but does not have the role. Just thought I'd throw that tidbit in.

-Sonic1002

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sonic1002:
<B> and they are saying that Kutcher is a "top canidate", but does not have the role.
-Sonic1002
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The fact that there haven't been mass suicides of Batman fans probably supports that statement.

[brokenstatue2001]

How come I got the feeling we've been "Punk'd"?

Still, I agree that he is an actor, and should prove himself, but I think he is too young, maybe as Robin 1 or Nightwing, sure but not Batman. I hear Guy Pierce is the likely canidate, so there should be some relief there.

[webslinger2k]

they wontbe putting Robin or NightWing in this project - i expect they will wait for a VERY good script before even thinking of Robin again after the last effort with him!

[whitefalcon]

"Sigh"... some people just never learn from their mistakes! whats next? are they going to cast Rowan Atkinson as the BIG "S" ????

I have always thought that David Boreanaz, or maybe even David Duchovny(Mulder) as Batman. For once, just once, can't the bigwigs at warner give us Batman fans what We want???

[Sonic1002]

Why would they do that? That would be too sane.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[imported_Robbo]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by whitefalcon:
I have always thought ...maybe even David Duchovny(Mulder) as Batman. For once, just once, can't the bigwigs at warner give us Batman fans what We want???<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

WE certainly don't want Duchovny as Batman. He could maybe play Scarface, the Ventriloquist's dummy. He's that wooden.

Somebody made the connection between the reactions to Kutcher and the reactions to Keaton so many years ago. I think it's almost an apt comparison.

However, while Keaton was primarily a comedic actor at the time, he had gotten some acclaim for his dramatic work. He'd also shown an edginess that our Kutch hasn't displayed yet.

On the other hand, Kutch does kind of look the part and whose to what acting chops he actually has. So far we've pretty much seen him play the doofus character over and over, but it's possible that he has abilities that we don't know about yet.

[D.K.HOOD]

I don't think the question should be why the studio wants Ashton Kutcher. We should be asking why they don't want Guy Pearce or Christian Bale. Those two are far more qualified to play Batman having done serious dramas plus action movies, and I also (in a straight man's opinion) think they are more handsome than Kutcher is.

[ModeMan]

Why shouldn't Guy Peirce play Batman? It would continue the recent trend of Australian actors being more qualified to play American superheroes(and just any role in general) than American actors are...&lt;sigh&gt;. I still like Christian Bale the best, though. Hope he gets it.

[themanwithoutfear]

thanks for noticeing my comparison to the keaton batman.

at first i liked bale for bats but now i dont know. i just dont like it. i think guy pierce would be better.i've also always thought keifer sutherland would be very interesting as bats.(especially when kiefrer was younger and at his peak)
hell maybe even bring back val kilmer.he did an okay job but with the right script...who knows what he cold do.

lets hear some other castin choices besides bale. i'm sick of seein his name all the time.

[ModeMan]

Well boo hoo. It's who most people want. I'm sick of seeing Ian Sommerhalder over on the Superman boards but apparently it's what everyone wants. Don't worry, WB has never payed attention to what the fans want before. Bale probably wont be cast. Peirce probably wont be either.

Anyway, since you want another name, how about Stuart Townshend?

[Sonic1002]

I have two picks.
1.) The guy who playsthe WB's Angel
2.) Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker)

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[themanwithoutfear]

hayden christensen? no way man..thats too off base. too young and too much cardboard.

[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by themanwithoutfear:
<B>hayden christensen? no way man..thats too off base. too young and too much cardboard.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, he can have that dark, brooding look. that's the only reason why I thought he would be half decent.

-Sonic1002

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[imported_StormShadow]

well here is a list of which actors I would place in which Batman movies. All three of these are interchangable, but I think they are right for each of the respective parts.

Yearone-Christian Bale(he just seems to have the brooding part down best, which is what Bruce is doing through most of Year One)

Batman Vs. Superman-Justin Theroux(I have already mentioned him on this thread, but he is really intense as seen in Charlies Angels: Full Throttle, and I would love to see him clash with Supes.)

JLA-Colin Ferel(He seems like he always has the best of people in every movie. His role in Minority Report really reminds me of Batman in the Justice League animated series. His confidence and readiness make him the JLA Morrisonesqe Batman.)

and of course any of these could be Batman in 'the Frightening'

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[themanwithoutfear]

yeah collin farrell would be great.
another interessting choice would be john cusack. (for the naysayers check out "identity" or " grosse point blank")

i would think that hayden christensen would be better suit for a batman beyond flick.

[imported_StormShadow]

It's funny that you mention John Cusack. I was reading an interview with him about 6 months ago and there was a portion with him talking about being dissapointed that he was too old for the role of Spider-man when the role was still being cast(John in a Cage level comic fan) but afterwards he was discussing how at one point he had been spoken to about playing Harvey Dent in the Batman:Year One movie. I was blown away. While I don't think he is a good choice for Batman he strikes me as an excellent pre-twoface Harvey Dent.

[ModeMan]

That would be awesome. He'd be an excellent young Harvey.

hayden christensen? no way man..thats too off base. too young and too much cardboard.

That's not true. I agree with the too young. Hayden isn't cardboard at all. People think so after seeing Episode II but what nobody understands is that Hayden was actually trying for a robotic sound. The only reference he had to his character was James Earl Jones. He was trying to immitate that a bit. Didn't go over well at all with anyone. Everyone just assumed he's a bad actor(the only one who can pull off the James Earl Jones Vader is the man himself).
In his other big flick Life as a House he did a really good job. I was impressed. Especially after seeing Ep II.
Still, in Episode II with all his short comings in delivery of lines he still got the intensity in his face down well.

[webslinger2k]

Asthon is out!! good news? you decide....

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Batman: Ashton Kutchner has resigned for two more years of "That 70's Show", which rules him out of donning the cape.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dark Horizons....

[D.K.HOOD]

Hayden Christensen sucked in Episode II and since that is the only thing I've seen him in I can't imagine him being cast in any C2F role. But in his defense everybody sucked in Episode II except Ewan MacGregor who seems to be the only one trying to take his role seriously instead of acting like the movie is a school play.

[Essex]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by webslinger2k:
<B>Asthon is out!! good news? you decide....

Dark Horizons....</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I don't understand how signing on for more of a TV show rules him out of movie casting. He's made several movies while being on the show, and is still making many more...

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[ModeMan]

Hayden Christensen sucked in Episode II and since that is the only thing I've seen him in I can't imagine him being cast in any C2F role. But in his defense everybody sucked in Episode II except Ewan MacGregor who seems to be the only one trying to take his role seriously instead of acting like the movie is a school play.

I think the key to Ewan's good performances in SW is that he's the only one in the cast who doesn't take it too seriously. He seems like the one who most wants to have fun with it. The others take it too seriously and try to be overly dramatic. They have to remember that, while Star Wars is a great part of film history, it's a space fantasy and not Shakespeare. They need to loosen up.

But don't sell the whole cast short. Ian McDiarmid, Frank Oz, Christopher Lee and the rest of the film veterans did excellent jobs in my opinion.

Anyway, see life as a house. Hayden's role is pretty similar to his Anakin in it. He plays a whiney little goth brat but in Life he does it much better.

Still don't see Hayden as Batman though(getting back on topic). Maybe the Jason Todd Robin&lt;haha&gt;. Actually I think he could be a decent Nightwing, but we'll probably never see Nightwing in any of the films.

[mattmatt]

why is this so terrible mike keaton started off as a comedic actor and he was the best batman, and look at dare devil and batman and robin when a big named guy plays a super hero he makes it terrible, ashton is probably gonna do ok i think

[D.K.HOOD]

For every person that thinks Keaton was the best Batman there's someone else who doesn't. And I think the Keaton comparison is a bit exaggerrated since he acted in serious roles before doing Batman. And even some of the comedies he did before Batman had dramatic tones to them. Oh well, it seems like Warners has targeted their audience with this manuever and I say good luck to them. I always liked the animated series more than the movies anyway.

[bottleHeD]

The problem isn't if Kutcher's a fine actor or not, but rather, his image. If i see him as Bruce Wayne, i'm gona keep thinking, "Dude, Where's You Cape"... no matter how dark n brooding he'll try to be, seeing him on screen will inevitably lead to thoughts about his doofy movies and serials and spoil the atmposphere..

And everyone's talking about him being cast in a M Night Shyamalan movie. That doesnt account for hoot. For all we know, he may be playing a insane clown or a 3 year old in the body of a grownup or something like that..

[norrinraad]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bottleHeD:
The problem isn't if Kutcher's a fine actor or not, but rather, his image. If i see him as Bruce Wayne, i'm gona keep thinking, "Dude, Where's You Cape"... no matter how dark n brooding he'll try to be, seeing him on screen will inevitably lead to thoughts about his doofy movies and serials and spoil the atmposphere..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I see what you're saying, and this is precisely the reason why he should be given a shot at a seriously dramatic role (not necessarily Batman) so he can break out of this unfortunate typecasting. I've read that Bruce Willis was typecast back in the 80s because of the smarmy, smirking Moonlighting (which is not rerun on cable nearly enough, it's a great show), so he jumped at the chance to do Die Hard to show he was more than a one-dimensional irritant. The rest, as they say, is history. Again, I'm not saying Batman should be Ashton's big test, but if he gets the part I'll keep an open mind about it.

[FireStormTrooper]

Let's make the next Batman flick a family affair!

Ashton Kutcher for Bruce Wayne
Demi Moore for Selina Kyle
Bruce Willis for Harvey Dent

You can start throwing tomatoes now.