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Fishguts
02-13-2004, 04:08 PM
I just read on IMDB daily news that director Christopher Nolan has been given the go ahead to "re-invent" Bruce Wayne/Batman for his new movie. Reportedly he has decided to make him British, and with more of a James Bond feel. Check it out for yourselves at http://www.imdb.com/PeopleNews/#1
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fishguts:
I just read on IMDB daily news that director Christopher Nolan has been given the go ahead to "re-invent" Bruce Wayne/Batman for his new movie. Reportedly he has decided to make him British, and with more of a James Bond feel. Check it out for yourselves at http://www.imdb.com/PeopleNews/#1 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
"kurblunk" there goes my heart into my stomach, and I had such high hopes for this film. jesus chrighst why? what point does that freekin serve?
ok I wont be terribley pissed if just bruce wayne has the accent. but still, gerrrrrrAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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DICK
Kwick22a
02-14-2004, 10:06 AM
Well the article didn't actually say they were making Batman British, it said they were going for a James Bond british feel. This could be referring to filming style, directing style, sets, and the way the charecters interact. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are going to literally make Batman British.
I think it's really to early to start panicing yet, lets wait until we have something really concrete before we decide the movie is going to suck.
Burton X. Lynch
02-14-2004, 10:23 AM
I read in an article on Batman-on-Film.com that even though most of the cast and director are British, the characters will remain American. So there.
I agree with Kwick. When I read the article yesterday, thats what I got out of it. They're not making Bruce/Batman himself British, just going for the feel of the James Bond films, etc.
Well I don't know about whether Batman will be British as a character, but I'm glad we've got a Welsh actor (Christian Bale) playing him. Now, what would be really daring is to give Bruce Wayne a Welsh accent! That would be cool and break the mould! Of course, they could've had Anthony Hopkins as Alfred instead, and Catherine Zeta Jones as the love interest. Set the whole thing in Wales, and we'd have a masterpiece on our hands!
What do you think?
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SickBoy
02-14-2004, 11:47 AM
I wouldn't be too worried. British or not, odds are it prolly can't be any worse than the last couple bat films. Personally I think a british feel could be cool as far as sets and the overall look goes.
norrinraad
02-14-2004, 12:09 PM
If anything it sounds like Nolan is following Burton's lead. The first Batman film from 1989 was filmed almost entirely in England, which gave it a gothic feel that may not have been as prevalent had it been filmed in the U.S.
As for the James Bond angle, Loeb incorporated some of this for his "Hush" arc (the high tech gadgetry, some travel to exotic locales) and it worked well enough without compromising any of the tension or drama, so I'm confident that Nolan can pull off the same balancing act for the feature.
Essex
02-14-2004, 04:13 PM
If WB won't even keep the British characters British, what makes anyone believe they'll turn an American comics icon into an English man?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Essex:
<B>If WB won't even keep the British characters British, what makes anyone believe they'll turn an American comics icon into an English man?
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Does that mean there's next to no chance of Batman actually becoming Welsh?
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Meoww! Send in the clowns!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwick22a:
<B>Well the article didn't actually say they were making Batman British, it said they were going for a James Bond british feel. This could be referring to filming style, directing style, sets, and the way the charecters interact. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are going to literally make Batman British.
I think it's really to early to start panicing yet, lets wait until we have something really concrete before we decide the movie is going to suck.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
ohhhhhhhhhhh ok. yea that makes sence, I was just ready to condem this movie, I'm sorry, Im just scared, so far it just seams to good to be true. No I think a "James Bond feel" would be appropreite, so long has it's still dark, and not as lighthearted as the Bond seires. But if your going for cool, there is no cooler than Bond.
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DICK
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B> Does that mean there's next to no chance of Batman actually becoming Welsh?
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"no I wont be 'popping down under' mister Prime Minister. If I want to visit a bunch of sheep shaggers, I'll go to Wales, it's closer."- Herr Star, Preacher.
just kiddin welshy, but seriously, The Bat is an American, based in an American city, created by an American artist, so a British Bruce Wayne is just not going to happen. However im not apposed to a more British feel to the movie, so long has he dosnt make the same mistakes burton did with costume design.
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DICK
Fishguts
02-14-2004, 07:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwick22a:
Well the article didn't actually say they were making Batman British,<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't want to sound like I'm jumping to conclusions or condemning this film, but yes the article did in fact say the character was becoming British. In fact the first four words in the article are "Batman is becoming British..."
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fishguts:
<B> I don't want to sound like I'm jumping to conclusions or condemning this film, but yes the article did in fact say the character was becoming British. In fact the first four words in the article are "Batman is becoming British..."
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Yes! Now all that's left is to actually make Batman Welsh! Since Christian Bale is Welsh, that shouldn't be too much of a leap! Looks like a dream coming true (i hope!)
Will we have Welsh Bat???
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Meoww! Send in the clowns!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fishguts:
I don't want to sound like I'm jumping to conclusions or condemning this film, but yes the article did in fact say the character was becoming British. In fact the first four words in the article are "Batman is becoming British..."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
But it doesn't make sense HOW they would make him British. They've already established that Bruce will still patrol Gotham and unless they move Gotham to Britain, I just don't see it happening.
I'm pretty sure that quote, 'Batman is becoming British...' is only to be taken as "the movie is being dominated by the British" with the actors, crew, filming locations, etc.
Kwick22a
02-14-2004, 08:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fishguts:
<B> I don't want to sound like I'm jumping to conclusions or condemning this film, but yes the article did in fact say the character was becoming British. In fact the first four words in the article are "Batman is becoming British..."
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My bad, didn't see that part earlier. Having a little trouble focusing today.
The Xenos
02-14-2004, 09:50 PM
Yeah, this sounds like a misinerpretation and overhype by the reporters. I thought i heard an early rumor that he might be going over there. I doubt they're making him British.
Then again, he is already WASPy. I remember hearing that Bruce was of Scotish decent and about a mini-series where he goes back there. I'm sure that mini has nothing to do with this film, but I remember that being his ethnicity.
-Xenos
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B>Yeah, this sounds like a misinerpretation and overhype by the reporters. I thought i heard an early rumor that he might be going over there. I doubt they're making him British.
Then again, he is already WASPy. I remember hearing that Bruce was of Scotish decent and about a mini-series where he goes back there. I'm sure that mini has nothing to do with this film, but I remember that being his ethnicity.
-Xenos</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I wont mind too much id bruce is brithish, but Batman should not speak with a English Accent, atleast not if he's in America, and realy what other country could Gotham city be in, Gotham is newyork, newyork is gotham.
its not as if its a stretch for christian bale to put on an American accent, infact he does it quite well.
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DICK
Essex
02-15-2004, 12:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GRIM:
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its not as if its a stretch for christian bale to put on an American accent, infact he does it quite well.
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He not only does it well; Bale is, in fact, a master of dialects (not an exaggeration, he actually is). For every role he has ever played, he has given the character a different accent. He takes into account exactly where they were born, how they were raised, etc and uses a suitable accent.
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"That which does not kill us...makes us stranger." - Trevor Goodchild, Aeon Flux
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GRIM:
<B> I wont mind too much id bruce is brithish, but Batman should not speak with a English Accent, atleast not if he's in America, and realy what other country could Gotham city be in, Gotham is newyork, newyork is gotham.
its not as if its a stretch for christian bale to put on an American accent, infact he does it quite well.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree. No English accent for Batman! Bring on the Welsh accent instead. That won't be a stretch for Christian "Welsh Bat" Bale at all!
I am quite serious about having a Welsh Batman, in case anyone thinks I'm just joking all this time. It's high time that Wales got its fair share of superheroes.
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Meoww! Send in the clowns!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
It's high time that Wales got its fair share of superheroes.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
B-b-but you guys have Tom Jones! He's superhero enough!
imported_Thom
02-16-2004, 02:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
I'm pretty sure that quote, 'Batman is becoming British...' is only to be taken as "the movie is being dominated by the British" with the actors, crew, filming locations, etc.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bingo. Besides, you're citing IMDb.com News. I love the site, but it's not the most reputable source of news. They tend to misinterpret scoops (not to mention posting gossip.)
beppo_the_super_chim
02-16-2004, 03:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B>Yeah, this sounds like a misinerpretation and overhype by the reporters. I thought i heard an early rumor that he might be going over there. I doubt they're making him British.
Then again, he is already WASPy. I remember hearing that Bruce was of Scotish decent and about a mini-series where he goes back there. I'm sure that mini has nothing to do with this film, but I remember that being his ethnicity.
-Xenos</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It was a graphic novel called 'the scottish connection' Excellent art work and the story wasnt bad either. Some of Alfred's attempts to embrace scottish culture are hilarious. a welsh james bond? I see the potential too., afterall superted was welsh which just goes to show it is a good place for a superhero to come from.
Essex
02-16-2004, 07:18 AM
I think the Scottish Connection featured some early Frank Quitely work.
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admin
02-16-2004, 06:14 PM
Bat(e)man!
Bale is a favourite of mine and will be playing the role American for sure, otherwise the thing won't sell. with Nolan on board, it will be a return to the days of Burton, with a real Gothic feel.
anyone else heard Cillian Murphy (28 days later) is in it as well?
will be good!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ol' Rivet-Face:
<B>Bat(e)man!
Bale is a favourite of mine and will be playing the role American for sure, otherwise the thing won't sell. with Nolan on board, it will be a return to the days of Burton, with a real Gothic feel.
anyone else heard Cillian Murphy (28 days later) is in it as well?
will be good!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Everybody keeps saying they want it to return to burton, but you guys to seem to realize, Burton's wasnt that good. Dont get me wrong, it was the best thus far, and still is. (live action wise) but the other films aside its not that great. Horrible costume, lame action, and it didnt pocus enough on batman 'the detective' which is proably the most interesting part about the character. Burton simpley took what he knew about batman (the 60's tv series and tid bits of dark knight returns) and made a movie that he would proabley not go and see himself.
"This is too big a budget movie to worry about what a fan of a comic book would say." -Burton.
I realy hope that Nolan deals with the text with more reverence, and most of all some passion. That and a non rubber costume.
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DICK
I killed this one too huh?
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DICK
The Xenos
02-19-2004, 05:44 PM
Yet sadly Burton's first movie was the best live Batman one yet. Sure he had no care for the character, and that is terrible for a director to do, but it ended up not too bad. Actually, his movie was kind of more like the orginal 40s darker Batman.
Anyway, now it's Nolan's turn. He definatley shows more repsect. I don't think he's making Bamtan a brit, rather than try and make a more British film wahtever that means. Think I said it before, but figured I'd get back on topic.
-Xenos
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
B-b-but you guys have Tom Jones! He's superhero enough!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
He can't fight crime all on his own. He can't be everywhere at once. How on earth will we ever have Wales Finest at this rate?
And where does it say anywhere that Batman isn't Welsh, or even generically British?
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Meoww! Send in the clowns!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B> He can't fight crime all on his own. He can't be everywhere at once. How on earth will we ever have Wales Finest at this rate?
And where does it say anywhere that Batman isn't Welsh, or even generically British?
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welllll he did grow up in gotham, thats a well known fact. Now someone mentiond tom jones. While I dont think Batman is the right role for him, I cant believe he hasnt been made a superhero yet. Jones could kick the crap outa supes, and steal lois away at the same time. TOM JONES IS THE FREEKIN MAN! man im drunk.
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DICK
Fishguts
02-21-2004, 12:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Essex:
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He not only does it well; Bale is, in fact, a master of dialects (not an exaggeration, he actually is). For every role he has ever played, he has given the character a different accent. He takes into account exactly where they were born, how they were raised, etc and uses a suitable accent.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree, Bale is one of those actors that could pull of many believable accents. Another that surprises me is Colin Farrel. I had been to a few of his movies, and then had my jaw drop when I found out that, not only is he Irish, but he speaks with a heavy Irish accent. Oh, and he fills out the vulgar Irish stereotype to a t.
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