Batman : Casting Vol. 2

[Dr. Fahrenheit]

Well now that Christian Bale has been cast, per my original suggestion before I had ever even seen American Psycho, back when I was a senior in high school, I am extremely happy, and I feel like a Geeky-Champion.

I campaigned for this man as Batman since 1999 and many people were against it, while others didn't even know who the hell he was, I feel awesome, and I cannot wait to see who gets cast as Ra's Al Guhl.

What are your thoughts ?

Thanks,
Doc Fahrenheit

[Count Enance]

Yeah, I remember those days, Doc.

I remembered when you suggested and I thought to myself, "Huh?". But after seeing pictures of him in the American Psycho and actually saw his performance, I really wanted him to get the part.

I guess when I was making those Bale as Batman DCG fan-arts, they actually payed-off http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/tongue.gif

[DrZaius]

After all these years I concede to your wisdom Doc. First I didn't care for Bale, but now after seeing his movies I agree. He's a perfect choice for Bats.

The only question i have is the Ras Al Ghul thing genuine? The only mention i had heard of him was Harry at Ain't it Suspect News, speculating based on set designs. If Ras is indeed the villain a few choices come to mind: Johnathan Pryce, Geoffrey Rush, Terrance Stamp (maybe a little Old), or Alan Rickman. There are many fine European actors that could play the part.

Thanks,
Dr.Z

[D.K.HOOD]

Ralph Fiennes or Russel Crowe for Ra's. We all want a great actor for the role but I want to be certain that whoever is cast can be as physically fit as Christian Bale.

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[ModeMan]

Let me say, I'm really pleased with the recent choice for Batman. Really freakin pleased. The internet has become a great tool to help film makers keep in mind what fans are looking for. I remember some time ago, there was only the faintest rumor about Bale playing him and it seemed to be caused mainly by fans of Batman pulling for him to play the part. I read an interview with him where he stated how he wasn't sure if he wanted to play Batman since there was the possibility of him playing 007. 007 is much cooler for a Welsh actor to play than Batman, but the response from people on the internet was a resounding "beh" and more and more encouragement to play Batman. Few years later, behold! Batman! I honestly think that studio people have begun to pay attention. I'm not suggesting that they base their decisions on what people here write, but it's hard to believe they didn't maybe have a bit of a nudge from fans who make sure their voices are heard loud and often. Especially when the fans made sense this time. Bale was the best choice. Cheers to Robinov for recruiting Goyer, Nolan, and Bale. This is looking really promising. Even after that shakey start with Aranofsky, Miller, and the frightening rumors of Ashton Kutcher getting the part.

Anyway... depending on who's in it, if it's Ra's, I like the idea of Terrance Stamp. Feines was a good one too. I, personally, think Ra's needs to have a bit of age to him. And he absolutely must have the white wings in his hair.

[WC]

Well, i'm perfectly happy for a Welsh actor to get the role. I wouldn't even mind if Batman spoke with a Welsh accent, but that might be pushing things. Who is Ra's Al Ghul? Never heard of him. I wonder why they would go for a seemingly obscure villain for the new Batman film instead of having someone like the Scarecrow as the main villain, or perhaps another round with the Joker. Are there any Welsh Batman villains he could fight?

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[Darth_zaiyen]

Gary Oldman IS Ra's Al Ghul! And of course with him comes Talia. I could see Rachel Weiss in that role.

Also, Scarecrow has been rumored for this. After seeing 'Willard', I think Crispin Glover could do it.

[Frostbite]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
Well, i'm perfectly happy for a Welsh actor to get the role. I wouldn't even mind if Batman spoke with a Welsh accent, but that might be pushing things. Who is Ra's Al Ghul?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You don't know who Ra's Al Ghul is? Sure, he's only second tier, but he was featured in like every other episode of Batman: The Animated Series.

And Ra's does speak with some sort of accent.

[Sonic1002]

I have my picks for him. Russell Crowe, Ian McKellen (a little old, yes, but he has the whole powerful presence going on), Jason Isaac, and..... I can't think of anyone else ^_^.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[Antonello Blueberry]

My suggestions:
Alfred Pennyworth: John Hurt
Capt. James Gordon: Giancarlo Giannini/Bruce McGill
Ra's Al Ghul: Christopher Walken
Talia Al Ghul: Paz Vega
Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow: John Turturro
Bye

[FireStormTrooper]

Ummm ... Ra's al Ghul is the Arabic leader of a very small Arabic country (he's kinda like DC's answer to Dr.Doom in the despot department). He employs the League of Assassins to do his bidding. His name is Arabic, translated into "the Demon's Head". One of his main goals is eco-terrorism through global genocide to restore the earth's beauty and resources. He knows Batman is Bruce Wayne and his daughter Talia is one of Bruce's lovers.

I don't know too many English-speaking actors of Arabic descent. ARMAND ASSANTE is one (Interview with the Vampire) and he would make a serviceable Ra's, with SALMA HAYEK (Desperado) as an excellent Talia. She's half-Lebanese.

Still, with all this post-9/11 sentiment, I don't think an Arabic terrorist is the wisest decision for the American vigilante's next onscreen foe. Too sensitive an issue.

[Frostbite]

Again with the whole "terrorist can never be shown again!!!!!" thing. If Ra's Al Ghul is in a Bat-movie, that's a sign we're moving foward, a sign that everything is okay.

Anyway, what about Brian George (http://www.utopiapictures.com/images/Brian.GIF) as Ra's? That Arabic accent he used on Seinfeld was fake; he actually speaks with no accent.

[WC]

How old is this Ra Al Ghul meant to be? Two actors who are of Arabic descent but speak with a british accent are Alexander Siddig (formely Siddig El Fadil) who played Dr Bashir in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. He's in his late thirties by now. The other is Art Malik, who of course played in True Lies and The Living Daylights.

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[Frostbite]

He's over 600 years old, but looks to be in his forties or fifties (he's graying). Look (http://www.intosh.com/jpg/batman3.jpg).

[The Xenos]

So we got Bale. I'm happry for t hat. What next?

Whoa. I never heard about Ra's being involved until now. Though they are saying it would be ealier in Batman's career, this may not rule of 'old Razz'. I dunno. Then agian if they were to make a movied based on the 70's O'Neal/Adams Batman, I would be quite happy. Many say "80s, Miller, Miller, Miller.", but I'd like to see Ra's.

As for casting, I think he may be a bit too old, but I always liked Lance Heinriksen from Millenium and Aliens. Of course I also agree with Gary Oldman or Alan Rockman. Can't think of anyone else I like. Wait, jsut saw someone said Jason Isaacs.

As for Talia.. blah.. a number of beautiful actresses come to mind. Hayek isn't bad. Monica Bellucci, Kerah (sp?) Knightly and just about every actress i suggested for Elektra.

As for the rest.. like Gordon and Alfred... I don't know. I figure there would be a number of goings on in Gotham first before Batman cashed him down to where ever for that macho shirtless fight in the desert. Hey, maybe we could even fit in Deadshot. Could he be involved with the Leage of Asssasins?

Plus would we ahve Robin? How old would he be? Any other villians?

btw, I myself have grow a pair of Ra's like horns in addition to an Abe Lincoln/Gendo chinstrap beard. Though I think mine is a bit closer together.

-Xenois

[themanwithoutfear]

i like terrence stamp as ras. walken could be interesting.
i agree he needs to be an older actor as well.
and why does evryone keep saying russell crow as ras al ghul on here anyways? do any of you even know who ras is?

[The Xenos]

Ok, just remembered someone said Armand Asante for Ra's. Sounds neat. As for the feline's suggestion of Dr Bashir, he jsut seems a bit not big and imposing enough. Though maybe it's jsut the impression i got form that role.

PLus what nationality is Ra's? I know his name is Arabic. He could also be form nothern Africa. I never got the impression he had a ingle country he resided in nor a country from which he claimed origin. He was a wonderer who traveled the globe for the Lazarus Pits. Plus he's been around a long time. He's older than most current nations.

-Xenos

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B>Ok, just remembered someone said Armand Asante for Ra's. Sounds neat. As for the feline's suggestion of Dr Bashir, he jsut seems a bit not big and imposing enough. Though maybe it's jsut the impression i got form that role.
-Xenos</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah - at the time i didn't know what Ra's looked like. I'd say that Dr Bashir is also probably not old enough either to have the necessary gravitas.

On second thoughts, a Batman with a Welsh accent could make a nice change. I wonder if Christian Bale would play along?

Why don't we go all the way and have an entirely Welsh cast?


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[Count Enance]

Al Ghul may have an Arabic name but his mannerism is more of a stereotypical idea of a european from the colonial age.

You hardly , if not never, see a any arabic writing in his lair but you often see him wearing some european attire.

As for casting,
I thought of Hugo Weaving for Al Ghul based on his performance in The Matrix. Another actor I thought may look the part is Bruce Hopkins. Hopkins played Gamling in LOTR: The Two Towers. I saw him in a recent pop culture convention and thought he has the right look for The Demon's Head himself.

Talia, I would cast either Rhona Mitra (TV's "Gideon' Crossing" and former Lara Croft model) or Claire Forlani (Mystery Men).

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[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
How old is this Ra Al Ghul meant to be? Two actors who are of Arabic descent but speak with a british accent are Alexander Siddig (formely Siddig El Fadil) who played Dr Bashir in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. He's in his late thirties by now. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He's a bit on the skinny side, but I think that is a good casting choice Welshcat! He was always my favorite actor on that show, probably because he reminds me of a young Bill Bixby.

[Frostbite]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
PLus what nationality is Ra's? I know his name is Arabic. He could also be form nothern Africa. I never got the impression he had a ingle country he resided in nor a country from which he claimed origin. He was a wonderer who traveled the globe for the Lazarus Pits. Plus he's been around a long time. He's older than most current nations.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He's from ancient Egypt.

[The Xenos]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Count Enance:
<B>Hugo Weaving for Al Ghul
...
Talia ... Claire Forlani (Mystery Men).</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

oooo... interesting. I wanna say I like Weaving, but something about his voice jsut doesn't quite fit. I dunno. This isn't quite right, but me might talk too slow. He doesn't have the sussinctness for Ra's. Then again it could be him or jsut the two roles I've seen him in.

Plus, my quintessential Ra's is David Warner from the animated Bats. You would know him form Tron and (ugh) Titanic. Though he's a bit tool old for Ra's now. Then again I hope they don't go with too young an actor.

Claire Forlani sounds wonderfl. She sounds and looks perfect. Plus she's got gorgeous eyes like Thalia should ahve. I can really see that. Or maybe I just like Mallrats too much. Nah.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frostbite:
<B> He's from ancient Egypt.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds right. I was tempted to say Egypt, but I couldn't think of where i heard it.

-Xenos

[bottleHeD]

Alam Cumming would make a great Scarecrow, but he's already NightCrawler, so out he goes..
If they show Scarecrow as a second-villian to Ra's, i'm gonna puke..

[imported_woody]

How about for the scarecrow that actor who just won the academy award for the Pianist, I think his name is Adrian Brody. He looks tall and skinny, and kind of freaky.

[DrZaius]

There is a Batman graphic novel where the possible origin of Ras and The Lazarus pits are revealed. I believe it was called Bride of the Demon? i could be wrong (It's not Son of The Demon that's a completely different Ras story. In Bride we find out Ras was a royal doctor in a Muslim country court. not sure of the exact time period. But it was at a time when I think the Ottoman Empire was at it's high point.

Thanks,
Dr.Z

[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by woody:
How about for the scarecrow that actor who just won the academy award for the Pianist, I think his name is Adrian Brody. He looks tall and skinny, and kind of freaky. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What about that dude who played Willard? He is freaky.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sonic1002:
<B> What about that dude who played Willard? He is freaky.

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Darth already suggested him(Crispin Glover) earlier.

[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
Darth already suggested him(Crispin Glover) earlier. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whoops, sorry. I didn't read that post. Well, thus proves my theory: Great minds DO think alike.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[Darth_zaiyen]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sonic1002:
<B> Whoops, sorry. I didn't read that post. Well, thus proves my theory: Great minds DO think alike.

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who told you I have a great mind? WHO!?

[WC]

If Batman is going to be Welsh, then they should've had the Joker feature in this film again. Batman could then have said "Meoww you clown!"

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[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Darth_zaiyen:
Who told you I have a great mind? WHO!?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess I'm overly optomistic.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[KillJoelShumacher]

I think it would be cool to have two actors for Ra's. one that is older for before the lazarus chamber and one who is younger for after. They could use just one actor with some age make-up too. As for scarecrow I like the idea of Crispin Glover, but I think they should save him for the joker. I think Scarecrow is a hard role to cast because it has to be someone who is small, but still an imposing presence when onscreen with Batman. Maybe Christopher Lloyd could pull it off.

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[Sonic1002]

He's a little old, but Ian Holm (Bilbo in LOTR, Cornelius in Fifth Element, etc....) for Ra's. I think he can look a bit sinister if he wanted.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

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[Megatron]

Alan Cumming is the Joker as I have been saying for some time now, or at least consider Eddie Izzard. Izzard has to be a comic villain in something.



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[JordanGLC]

How about John Turturro for Ra's Al Ghul? And for Talia, what do you think of Aishwarya Rai?

And since the post above me mentions the Joker again, I still say Paul Bettany would be a great Joker, particularly if played against Bale's Batman? Does ANYONE agree with that?

[The Xenos]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JordanGLC:
And for Talia, what do you think of Aishwarya Rai?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just looked her up and.. wow.

-Xenos

[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JordanGLC:
<B>How about John Turturro for Ra's Al Ghul? And for Talia, what do you think of Aishwarya Rai?

And since the post above me mentions the Joker again, I still say Paul Bettany would be a great Joker, particularly if played against Bale's Batman? Does ANYONE agree with that?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay, for Ra's, I change my vote. After looking at all the AWESOME fan art, I'm going to have to say that Gary Oldman has stolen my heart for the role.
As for Joker.... WILLEM DOFOE!!!! Come on, the man played the Green Goblin, the Joker of the Marvel universe. The man has the wickest (and jokerish) smile (which could be aided, like Jack's was in first movie) and Willem has the sadistic, homocidal psychopath thing down. What better could we ask for?
-Sonic

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[bottleHeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JordanGLC:
<B> And for Talia, what do you think of Aishwarya Rai?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>yeah, except for the fact that she can't act..

[Frostbite]

What's that one movie with college-aged people go to some sort of restaurnt/lodge/country club thingie in the summer months and one of them's a gigantic bitch and kills everyone and she made out with this one girl on the boat before pushing her into the ocean and drowning her? The chick that plays the bitch would make a great Talia.

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[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frostbite:
<B>What's that one movie with college-aged people go to some sort of restaurnt/lodge/country club thingie in the summer months and one of them's a gigantic bitch and kills everyone and she made out with this one girl on the boat before pushing her into the ocean and drowning her? The chick that plays the bitch would make a great Talia.

[This message has been edited by Frostbite (edited 09-28-2003).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

GEEE... that was descriptive.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[Frostbite]

Wasn't it? Or are you just being sarcastic?

[thejokerscard]

Who should play Alfred?
I don't think Michael Gough is still among us. Plus its supposed to be batman in his early years.

[chris allen]

Russell Crowe would suck, I like him, but he would suck as Ra's. Fiennes is powerful enough to pull off Ra's, not to say Crowe isn't,but Ralph would make that role his own, and create interest in the character as far as his appearances in the books are concerned.

[Frostbite]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by thejokerscard:
I don't think Michael Gough is still among us.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>He is, but he's too old.

[thejokerscard]

It would be great if Scarecrow was the villan in this edition. He could try to contaminate the water supply with his fear gas, and Bats would take a wiff of it and go through a big haze of scarey stuff.

[bottleHeD]

That guy who played Quirrel in Harry Potter 1 could make a good Scarecrow..

[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bottleHeD:
That guy who played Quirrel in Harry Potter 1 could make a good Scarecrow..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perhaps... I think maybe John Malchovich could pull off the Scarecrow nicely.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[bottleHeD]

i somehow think he's not thin/lanky enuff for the role of Jonathan Crane...

[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bottleHeD:
i somehow think he's not thin/lanky enuff for the role of Jonathan Crane...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, if not him, then the guy who played Willard. You can't tell me he ain't thin/ lanky enough, and he most certainly has the creep factor going on.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[bottleHeD]

Who/What Willard?

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[Oldsoul3300]

--I certainly hope this rumor about Edge playing a villain named Egghead in the new Batman movie is false.
I can't imagine that they'd actually do that.
I mean, come on... EGGHEAD?!?!?
BTW, did Egghead ever appear in the comics, or was he just in the old TV show?

[Sonic1002]

I would just DIE if Egghead were in this.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[Frostbite]

Egghead was stolen from Marvel Comics for the Batman show.

[bottleHeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oldsoul3300:
<B>
BTW, did Egghead ever appear in the comics, or was he just in the old TV show?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Egghead was the only villain created for the tv show..
two things-
1)Is it the same egghead?
2)Will edge actually shave his head?????



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[Frostbite]

Egghead was not the only villain created for the TV show. There was also King Tut, Sandman, Pussycat, Black Widow, Minverva, Shame, the Puzzler, and much, much more.

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[The Xenos]

Oh please. just drop the egg now. this sounds like old crap. I remember just after or even before the crap fest that was Batman & Robin, there was a rumor that the next villians were going ot be King Tutn and Scarecrow. I belive peopl were even suggesting howard Stern for scarecrow f0r some insane reason.

I dunno abot the studio, likley as dmb as ever,but I doubt Chris Nolan is going anywhere near the old 60s show. It was good for its time and a lugh now, but no way should they go back. Schumacher took from the old show as well as neww darker stuff and look at the muddled abortion he made. Then again, I got a feeling that Catwoman fiasco may do the same. Will Halle berry ever stop comparing herself to Ertha Kitt?! She shouldn't insult MS Kitt like that.

anyway, back to casting... so there is a more sane rumor that Morgan Freeman may be some sort of doctor. Dunno how real this is, ut it sounds plausable. Not sure if he'd be a villian or not. Now I can think of two things. One, he's a doctor at Arkham. Hopefully this could mean that Arkham Asylum finally gets decent screen time. Or.. Dr. Hugo Strange. Can't think of anyone else who fits.

-Xenos

[bottleHeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frostbite:
Egghead was not the only villain created for the TV show. There was also King Tut, Sandman, Pussycat, Black Widow, Minverva, Shame, the Puzzler, and much, much more.

[This message has been edited by Frostbite (edited 11-01-2003).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>k.. my bad..



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[norrinraad]

I serious doubt that Nolan would go anywhere near the 60s TV show, and there's probably a better chance of a snowball surviving in a furnace than there is of seeing a character created specifically for the show making their way into the new Batman flick. Shumacher maybe, but Nolan, definitely not.

As for Morgan Freeman, he adds a touch of class to everything he's in so he's a welcome addition to the cast if the rumour is true. It may even be possible that he's being considered for Comissioner Gordon, a choice that I whole-heartedly embrace. Daredevil showed us that ethnicity is not really an issue as long as the acting chops are there, and I think Freeman would be just great as Jim Gordon.

[Oldsoul3300]

--When I heard that he may be in the movie, my initial thought was as Scarecrow, which would be fun... Freeman as a psychotic madman.
But Gordon would be a solid choice also.

[Sonic1002]

Scarecrow, maybe. I just can't see Freeman as Gordon. Sinc ehaving Gordon's image imprinted on my mind as a white guy with a pushy white mustache, I really can't picture him as Gordon.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[bottleHeD]

Actually, i can. Think, Se7en. I'd say that would suit Gordon..

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[Sonic1002]

http://www.batman-on-film.com/b5news.html

On Batman-On-Film, they have a picture of a guy who MAY, repeat MAY, be the Scarecrow. If he is the guy, I would have to say that Nolan did a hell of a job. The actor's name is Christopher Eccleston. He has the look and physique. So, yeah, that's my two cents.

-Sonic1002

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[The Xenos]

I don't think Freeman fits Gordon at all. NOt relaly because he's black, but because I want Gordon to be mcuh younger. One thigns that ahs always disapointed me about the films is what an old and often weak character Gordon has been. In the books he was so much younger and such a strong character. Hoepfully this film features a bit ealier on in Batman's carreer too.

As for that Scarecrow rumor, the guy certainly looks the part.

-Xenos

[WC]

Well the latest casting news for Alfred is that Michael Caine will be playing him. Not a bad choice for a butler, but a little unusual. Now all we need is Steve Martin and Glenn Headley.

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[The Xenos]

Michael Cain... Michael Cain... I don't know. I mean I really like the guy, but I don't know if he's right for Alfred. Doesn't seem... um.. droll enough or something. Not bad though if it happens.

-Xenos

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B>Michael Cain... Michael Cain... I don't know. I mean I really like the guy, but I don't know if he's right for Alfred. Doesn't seem... um.. droll enough or something.
-Xenos</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, having Michael Cain as Alfred would kind of be like having Al Pacino cast as the President.

Now I've got someone in mind to play Alfred that I think would be perfect for the role: Roger Moore!

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[The Xenos]

Efrem Zimbalist Jr. who voiced Alfred on teh cartoon was fantastic. If he was a bit younger, he might fit the look too.

Well, guess Caine is happening, so we shall see how that works out.

-Xenos

[JordanGLC]

Caine's a great actor and I'm sure he'd be an exceptional Alfred.

I still like John Turturro for Ra's.

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Midori Honami - Advent of Legion
The Green Library (http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=1&sub=comic&id=jordanglc)

[beppo_the_super_chim]

I will say again i think Tim mcinnery would be fantastic as alfred, especially in a year one story where alfred needs to be only in his 50s at the latest.

rewatching LA confidential i am sure that russel crowe would make a fantastic gordon, either him or spacey would be great in the aprt but i would prefer crowe. He has the edge gordon needs and would stop this image of gordon as a weakling.

Bale is fine for batman

they should ahve the joker, why bother dabbling with others, lets take it back to basics and have joker, played by christian glover.

and then harvey dent played by edward norton makes up the holy trinity of batman, gordon and dent in this movie setting it up for a sequal with two face in.

[Sonic1002]

I believe that Caine will do a splendid job as Mr. Pennyworth. I myself was expecting something a bit different, but this works too. Personally, I wanted Anthony Hopkins for Alfred...

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-Joker

[Juvenilemike]

Please god, please.

Mike
~swoon~

[ModeMan]

Ok, so Katie Holmes is playing Bruce's girlfriend(rumor). I don't mind the casting(I kind of like Holmes) but why does Batman always need a girlfriend? I mean Bruce generally doesn't keep some girlfriend. The only ones that make any sense are Talia and Catwoman.

Of course I don't know how it's being handled. Maybe it'll be some girl he tries to blow off but ends up being persistent. Maybe Katie is playing Talia(bizarre choice). Who knows? I just don't want it to be something completely lame like Nichole Kidman's character in Forever. I mean Kidman is a hottie but it was just a scenario that would never happen in the comics.

[JordanGLC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ModeMan:
...but why does Batman always need a girlfriend?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably because it's not a comic, it's a summer movie. It needs to appeal to a mass audience, and a love interest for the hero is pretty much a prerequisite.



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Midori Honami - Advent of Legion
The Green Library (http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=1&sub=comic&id=jordanglc)

[norrinraad]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JordanGLC:
Probably because it's not a comic, it's a summer movie. It needs to appeal to a mass audience, and a love interest for the hero is pretty much a prerequisite.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly. As many folks here have pointed out in the past, as much as we'd all like to think differently, comic book fans only represent a fraction of the audience for a big C2F like a Batman sequel. Everyone involved with this movie is probably expecting at least a $200 million domestic gross. In order to achieve this, the movie's got to be kid friendly and couple friendly as well.

I think it's admirable that a director like Nolan would even consider the comic book fans while making his film. Legions more fans know Batman through the movies and various TV shows (both animated and live action) than the comics and everyone involved is no doubt aware of this. This is Nolan's one big chance to really become known as a mainstream commercial filmmaker so I'm sure that he (as well as WB) has other considerations in mind. The fact that he wants to make his film faithful to the source material suggests that his heart is in the right place. Besides, it may be WB insisting on a love interest, not the director. They probably figure that bringing in Dawson's former girlfriend (from the WB network, surprise surprise) increases the movie's chances of being a crossover success.

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[The Xenos]

Well... Batman can have a girlfriend... but she's gotta be as psychologically f*&($#ed up as he is. Thalia and even Catwoman fit this nicely. Unless they're talkign about some girlfriend the 'mask' of Bruce Wayne has.

-Xenos

[Sonic1002]

They need to ditch all love interests and just let Batman brood all on his onesies.

By the way, I have new casting call... Hugo Weaving(LOTR, Matrix) as Joker.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[D.K.HOOD]

I don't think anyone has suggested this, but what about Al Pacino as Gordon? He's played the 'seasoned' cop before and he's also worked with Christopher Nolan. Seems like a logical choice to me.

[The Xenos]

Pachino is great, but again, I want a younger Gordon.

-Xenos

[Sonic1002]

For Gordon, they need someone that is late 40'2 to mid 50's, not the guy in the movies who was like late 50's to mid 60's. That is too old. He needs to have some age to him, but not be a grandpa.

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-Joker

[Fishguts]

I was reading that Cillian Murphy has been cast in the new Batman movie, and it mentioned that he is the fourth person to be cast. I know that the first two are Bale and Caine, but who is the third person? Is it Katie Holmes? Is it Viggo Mortenson? Or is it someone else that I can't seem to find any mention of anywhere?

[norrinraad]

Mortenson and Holmes are both being considered, according to the latest rumours...

[Sonic1002]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fishguts:
I was reading that Cillian Murphy has been cast in the new Batman movie, and it mentioned that he is the fourth person to be cast. I know that the first two are Bale and Caine, but who is the third person? Is it Katie Holmes? Is it Viggo Mortenson? Or is it someone else that I can't seem to find any mention of anywhere?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They are "assuming" Holmes, seeing as she is the only candidate up for lead female role who was willing to screen test with Bale. So, they're assuming that she's got it. There nothing official about Mortensen yet. The only three SOLID castings they have are Bale, Cain, and Murphy.


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-Joker

[bottleHeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fishguts:
I was reading that Cillian Murphy has been cast in the new Batman movie, and it mentioned that he is the fourth person to be cast. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
As what?


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[Oldsoul3300]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bottleHeD:
<B> Originally posted by Fishguts:
I was reading that Cillian Murphy has been cast in the new Batman movie, and it mentioned that he is the fourth person to be cast. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
As what?

--Most likely The Scarecrow.
Also, did you hear the rumor that Chris Cooper was up for a Villain role?
While I can't really see him as Ra's al Ghul, I can sort of see him as Gordon (not that he's a villain), but he's the right age and build... and a fantastic actor to boot.

[Majik1387]

For Talia I think Nyssa from Blade II would be good.

[The Xenos]

hmmm... latest rumors are saying the story involves the old (70s?) character the Reaper. I remember reading this story in trades. Not bad. I hope they also have Ra's in it though. A Bat film based in the 70s comics would be damn cool. The 70s Batman is often over looked and people jump right to Miller's stuff.

-Xenos

[bottleHeD]

Who/what is the Reaper? I haven't heard of him before..

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[The Xenos]

Well the reaper was.. well I forget most of the story, but it's in one of the 70s Batman tpbs. I wanna say he has something to dow with the holocaust, but I think that was another villian. Still, dunnno if there's a whole movie with The Reaper. Though I'll say again I think it's great they're going with a Batman story from the 70s. I only wish it was with Ra's and then again it might be. All are rumors.

Speaking of rumors, and back to casting, Chris Cooper is not said to not be a villian, but up for Gordon. Now that I think of it.. that sounds like fantastic casting.

-Xenos

[imported_Thom]

Yeah, every new name they announce (except for Katie Holmes) is more exciting to me than the previous. Let's see... Bale's alright, I don't really know him too well, but enough to think he'll do a good jobe. Michael Caine? One of my favorite actors. Cillian Murphy? Loved him in 28DL. And Chris Cooper... One of the most underrated actors ever. Jarring in American Beauty, and moving in Seabiscuit.

[Sonic1002]

This sounds promising........

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[ModeMan]

The Reaper was the main villain in Batman Year Two: Fear the Reaper. Which is one of the most awful story archs in Batman. You should be able to find it at most book stores(B&N, B. Dalton). It's so bad it was wiped from the Batman continuity(as is my understanding) and The Long Halloween is generally thought of as a more proper 'Year Two'.

[ModeMan]

That's not to say that The Reaper couldn't work on film. The animated show created two villains very similar to the Reaper(The Phantasm and The Judge) and those worked well. So it could be cool. But I would hope they wouldn't directly make Year Two into the film. It was lame.

[norrinraad]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thom:
Yeah, every new name they announce (except for Katie Holmes) is more exciting to me than the previous.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I find Katie Holmes very difficult to watch. She's an attractive girl but she always screws up her face into these uncomfortable looking expressions when she's acting and her line deliveries seem forced. She must be in absolute pain at the end of each assignment. I found it exhausting just to sit through an episode of Dawson's Creek even though I liked the show, because she is just so mechanical.

Back on topic, it seems like the producers are selecting a great assortment of talented actors who can be had at a reasonable price, which is a very wise move. I understand why they feel the film needs a love interest but I hope they avoid the cheese factor and keep it gritty and grounded in realism.

[bottleHeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ModeMan:
The Reaper was the main villain in Batman Year Two: Fear the Reaper. Which is one of the most awful story archs in Batman. You should be able to find it at most book stores(B&N, B. Dalton). It's so bad it was wiped from the Batman continuity(as is my understanding) and The Long Halloween is generally thought of as a more proper 'Year Two'.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So umm, what does he do? Does he have superpowers or is he yet another pissed off psychopath?



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[karlito]

Well, i hope they don't kill the Batman franchise with this one. i love batman and he is my hero, but the last 2 batmans haven't been that good. they need a good story on this one. i heard that they are going back in time and that he is using the old batman suit... why? why? i don't wanna go see an old style looking batman when everybody else's superheros are looking pretty nice... let's move forward and make him look awesome, nice custom and all.. and offcourse a good story.. pleaseee..

[Sonic1002]

Okay, here is the list of ppl I want in the movie...

Heroes-

Batman/ Bruce Wayne: Christian Bale
Alfred: Anthony Hopkins (yeah, I know... Caine has the role already...)
James Gordon: Aaron Eckhart OR Dennis Quaid
Barbara Gordon: Dina Meyer
Harvey Bullock: James Gandolfini
Harvey Dent: David Boreanaz

Villains-
Ra's Al Ghul: Gary Oldman
Talia: Catherine Zeta Jones
Joker: Willem Dafoe OR Hugo Weaving
Harley Quinn: Cameron Diaz
Bane: Vin Diesel
Scarecrow: Christopher Eccleston
Riddler: David Hyde Pierce
Catwoman: Michelle Phiefer (I can't think of anyone else)
Mr. Freeze: Billy Zane
Two-Face: David Boreanaz

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

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[bottleHeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karlito:
i love batman and he is my hero, but the last 2 batmans haven't been that good. they need a good story on this one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
wouldn't that be batmen?



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[Jedi Master Khalel]

Merry X-Mas, everyone!

Greetings,
Jose a.k.a. Jedi Master Khalel

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[karlito]

hahahahahaha... batmans, batmen.. you know what i meant. no, but really.. i hope they don't come out with something stupid....

[bottleHeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karlito:
hahahahahaha... batmans, batmen.. you know what i meant. no, but really.. i hope they don't come out with something stupid....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You and me and everyone here, bro..



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[ModeMan]

Actually I do hope they do something stupid.


So umm, what does he do? Does he have superpowers or is he yet another pissed off psychopath?

Pissed off psychopath. Like Phantasm, Judge, or Lockdown from the series, he's a vigilante who seeks to bring justice to Gotham but goes too far. This one goes further than the villains in the series though. He kills. He kills a lot and in violent ways. He has twin scyths attatched to gauntlets as weapons(much like phantasm except the blades are huge). He kills all walks of villains right down to the prostitutes. So yeah. He has a pretty cool design actually. Like I said, he's not a bad villain concept but the story he was in just wasn't good.

[ModeMan]

Anyway, back on the whole casting topic...

I think Rachel Weisz would make a fantastic Talia. And if that doesn't end up happening I think she should play Wonder Woman.

[bottleHeD]

Rachel Weisz? Naa, i dont think she's got that exotic look to her..

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[Oldsoul3300]

--Has anyone suggested Clair Forlani for Talia?
I think she'd be a good choice.

[ModeMan]

Rachel Weisz? Naa, i dont think she's got that exotic look to her..

I do. Just put a lock of hair over one eye, I don't see what would be wrong with it. I certainly think she'd be a better choice than Katie Holmes.

[imported_StormShadow]

Katie Holmes is actually said to be playing a different character than Talia, can't remember the name but apperantly it is the same as the Reapers daughter which I think is what sparked the idea that the Reaper was the villian.

[ModeMan]

Yeah, she's apparently playing someone named Rachel.

[Oldsoul3300]

--Something I thought was sort of interesting about this article... http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=4736
was the mention of an actress named Elle Fanning playing Barbara.
According to IMDB, Elle Fanning is 5 years old!
Granted, the report could be total BS.

[ModeMan]

That can't be right. Hasn't it already been comfirmed that Cooper isn't going to be a part of the film?

[Sonic1002]

There one of two explanations here.
1. This is an origin story. Batman is at least 15 years older than Barbara. Batman in his early twentys and in the movies grows older (thanks to makeup and the such), as does Barbara
2. This is total BS. Jett at BOF said that WB is deliberately sending out BS to throw off everyone.

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-Joker

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sonic1002:
<B>2. This is total BS. Jett at BOF said that WB is deliberately sending out BS to throw off everyone.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah, they'd never do that. *wink wink, nudge nudge*.

[imported_StormShadow]

So according to the write up on Dark Horizons we know who Rachel is in the story now. She is apperantly the assistant to the District Attourney, who I assume at this point is Harvey Dent. This puts forth both a little releif and a little sadness on my behalf. Im happy that Katie Holmes will be playing a bit more subdued part in the film, but I am also a little sad that Talia probably won't be making an appearance.

[bottleHeD]

How could they not have Talia if they are haveing Ra's Al Ghul???

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[Oldsoul3300]

--I'm sure that Talia will still be in the story... just not played by Holmes.

[Essex]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by StormShadow:
So according to the write up on Dark Horizons we know who Rachel is in the story now. She is apperantly the assistant to the District Attourney, who I assume at this point is Harvey Dent. This puts forth both a little releif and a little sadness on my behalf. Im happy that Katie Holmes will be playing a bit more subdued part in the film, but I am also a little sad that Talia probably won't be making an appearance.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


The report does not say she's playing the District Attorney's assistant! She's playing the Assitant District Attorney. Huuuuuge difference. She's not making anybody coffee or anything. The Assitant DA ia a fairly prestigious job and they're responsible for prosecuting in many important cases, if I'm not mistaken. Furthermore, if the report didn't mention Harvey Dent, it's doubtful he'll actually be in the film. At most, he'll probably be named or seen very briefly. That is, if this report is true at all, which we can't be sure of yet.


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[The Xenos]

There are so many damn rumors about this movie right now, I'm not beliveing anything. All I know is we got Bale as Bats, Caine as Alfred, and Nolan directing. Anything else, to me, is crap. That newest fanfeed, marked rioghtly red for pure rumor, linked to that Batman on Film site. I found most of the 'reports' there to be pure bull and laughable. Until I see offtial studio comments or a reliable source off-line, I am not beliving anything.

Here's what I think is mostly bull: The Reaper, Katie Holmes, DiNiro as Falcone (?!), Viggo, this toher guy as Scarecrow, maybe even Ra's. Could there be some truth to these? Yes. Should we listen to them? No. Things are still in negotiation. Nothing is confirmed and none of us should really care until they are. Than again, this is the internet. As said in Jay & Silent Bob Stike Back, the internet is a place where people download porn and bitch about movies.

So, trust no one. I was getting peeved at some of the rumors at that Batman on Film site. Then I realized how stupid i was. The rumors sounded stupid, but I was spuider to get angry at them. You know what, call me when this sucker is in theaters or when Warner or Nolan or someone from the movie talks with a magazine offitially. Then I'll belive it.

-Xenos

[Sonic1002]

Thus what in what I said..... the studio with its BS smokescreen.

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-Joker

[Essex]

Anyone who is familiar with jett's Batman-on-Film site knows that Jett is very reputable and one of the most responsible comic news writers on the web. If what he posts is only a rumour, he CLEARLY states that, but the man has numerous sources that have turned out to be correct on a number of things and if Jett believes something to be true, I believe that as well. Both Holmes and Cillian Murphy have been confirmed as being in the film, and both by Variety if I recall correctly.

Let me repeat: Jett KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. While it is true that at this point, everything should be considered rumour, Jett can be trusted and Batman-on-Film is the most reputable Batman news site on the web.

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[Sonic1002]

I second Essex on that. BOF is my number one source for Bat-related news. The man will tell you if he thinks something is a rumor or not. He will also tell you what is 100% true. He doesn't leave any loopholes.

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[The Xenos]

True, I should give more credit to the site than what I sounded. He did clearly label rumors as such. I should have said that alot of the reports were reports on rumors. There are just so many, that it's all any site can report on now. Sorry, for exageration and misunderstanding. Plus I didn't realize that guy was so on the ball. Excellent to know.

Anyway, I also see he says he won't post any more plot details or spoilers. Good for him.

Than again he did have me freak out for a brief bit when he said Bill Parcells was gonna play Falcone. Even as a joke, such an idea of such ill logic caused spasms in my head. Especially since, as a Patriots fan, I can't stand the former Pats caotch.

-Xenos

[Burton X. Lynch]

I'm sorry if this question has been asked earlier in the thread, but it is three pages.

Cillian Murphy has been cast and Liam Neeson is close to being cast and they both would play villains. The villains I keep hearing are Scarecrow and Ra's Al Ghul. But also I read this article on the web that in the film, Batman would not be fighting silly costumed villains.

What my question is: Is there actually any proof that Scarecrow and Ra'S Al Ghul are even in the movie? Or are Neeson and Murphy playing street thugs or corporate villains that a "more realistic" Batman would fight? Is Scarecrow in the movie? Because...even though I love the idea of Bale playing Batman, batman is just missing something without a classic villain to clash with. I've already seen actors donning the cape and horns in the last few decades, but never have I seen a live action Scarecrow! (Especially one played by Cillian Murphy, a good choice even if its not the more suitable Crispin Glover).

Thoughts?

[Sonic1002]

Well, from that script review and others, we've been hearing that Ra's and Scarecrow (going by Jonathon Crane in this movie) are indeed in this movie. If I were a betting man, I'd say that Neeson is going to be Ra's.
Now, there are many way to go at these two villains without making them silly costumed villains. Ra's, all you'd have to do is change his pointy-horns goatee to a regular goatee or just get rid of it completely. Scarecrow, I never saw his outfit that silly. I found it rather creepy. But, there are ways they could reinvent his costume.
Well, those are just my thoughts.
-Sonic1002

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[The Xenos]

Neesan as Ra's.. I think I can see it. And from that fanfeed from Variety.. I think it is sounding offitial.

It also says Freeman is gonna be Lucius.

my only worry is is katie holmes gonna be Talia or someone else. Cause I rally don't see ehr as Talia.

Anyway, looks like we're finally getting a movie based on the 1970s Batman. Quite apropriate I think since the O'Neil and Adams Batman of the 70s is what got rid of the camp of the 60s. I hope this gets rid of the camp from Shucmaher in the public's eyes.

-Xenos

[imported_Thom]

Wow.

Neeson.
Bale.
Freeman.
Caine.
Murphy.

This is shaping up to be one hell of a movie, in my eyes. I wish Cooper would've picked up on Gordon--I really like Chris Cooper--but it's hard to complain about the casting as it is. I think even Holmes will do a good job in whatever role she's given... She's at a point in her career that, especially lined up with these actors, she's going to give a role all she's got, and I think she's got potential beyond the teeny-bopper roles.

[Oldsoul3300]

--Well, looks like Variety got it wrong. Neeson is playing Ducard, not Ra's.
So, who do think the role of the Demon's Head will go to?

[GRIM]

I dont know about alot of things in this movie, but one thing is for sure, I'm damn exited to see where nolan is going with this. I can't freekin wait.

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[Sonic1002]

I doubt it'll go to him, but I would not mind seeing Viggo as Ra's.
Of course, a fan fave for Ra's (for me, anyways) would be Gary Oldman.

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-Joker

[bottleHeD]

Who's Ducard??
And isnt the Scarecrow just making some sorta cameo in the beginning, just to show how grim the city really is?

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[Sonic1002]

I'm thinking not anymore. He's porbably made into a more minor role, rather than with the other movies as second villian. And, I heard this somewhere, he is also a bit of a drug dealer.... So, he may create his fear toxin during his dealings in the black market. I dunno...

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[Essex]

Now they're saying Ken Watanabe of The Last Samurai is lined up for Ra's. An EXTREMELY interesting and unconventional choice. I love it.

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[Sonic1002]

You know what, I can see that.... I can see that happening very nicely, actually...

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker