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I haven't seen this movie. I don't think I will. I don't think I could stomach the two actresses, Halle Berry and Sharon Stone acting together on screen. I wouldn't be able to support either one.
But how else could this movie have been made? What other storyline could it have had? What other characters could it have used? And what sort of direction should the film have taken - eg darker, more horrific, lighter etc?
Maybe Halle Berry and Sharon Stone could've killed off a mutual lover (eg Bruce Wayne) in the bathtub then hid his body in a school pond only to be haunted by ghostly sightings of him later on. Finally, when the strain proves too much, Bruce Wayne turns up in Halle Berry's bath, causing her to seemingly drop dead of a heart attack. Then it's all revealed that Bruce Wayne and Sharon Stone had in fact conspired together. No wait, that's another Sharon Stone movie, Diabolique.
But seriously, what else could've been done about Catwoman?
Meoww! Send in the clowns!
07-30-2004, 04:51 PM
this movie should have never been made some people will think that because it was crapy batman begins will be crapy
also it will be hard if they want to put the real catwoman in a batman movie again
07-31-2004, 08:13 AM
Well, first thing to go would be that "Crow" angle, y'know, cats bring her back to life to punish the villains as opposed a crow brings a guy back to life to punish the villains. For all I know, there has only been one Catwoman, Selina Kyle. Next, I could see her fighting crime, but along the lines of the lesser than two evils part, hey, what can I say? I may not know much about her, but she was a jewel thief, right?
I guess, if it were up to me, it would be more like "The Score", that movie that had Robert Deniro, Ed Norton, and Marlon Brando. But, I'd still try to find a way to work in the whip, and cat-like abilities, while keeping it in the Bat-verse. What do you think?
"Even homicidal maniacs have feelings." -Jon Stewart
07-31-2004, 04:54 PM
Batman, Year One, except, this time it's through the eyes of Selina Kyle.
This will be a good intro to the movie, atleast...
HeD t r i p p i n '
08-02-2004, 01:39 PM
Well, for one thing it was crazy to pump $100 million into making this movie then another $35 million into marketing it. At this cost it's going to have to do Matrix or Lord Of The Rings level box office in order to break even, and obvioulsy that's not going to happen. A great director could have made an extremely stylish and atmospheric film for half that amount. At $50 million it wouldn't have been considered such a financial disappointment.
I finally got around to seeing Catwoman this weekend and, as I suspected, it's nowhere near as bad as critics have been making it out to be. Halle Berry can do no wrong in my eyes and I've been a fan of Sharon Stone forever and a day (Basic Instinct remains a life altering film for me). Catwoman isn't great by any means, but it's fun and I was never bored so that has to account for something.
Having said that, though, the costume still looks silly onscreen and the editing just didn't cut it (I was surprised how cheap the action scenes looked in several shots). Material this silly needs a serious approach in order to work, and it didn't help that the actors, without exception, seemed to be way over-the-top and too tongue-in-cheek most of the time. The film felt vaguely like a spoof and after Batman & Robin you would have thought that Warner Bothers had learned their lesson.
I think a director more in tune with the material would have benefited the film tremendously. Also, a costume redesign and a more serious approach to the script would have helped too. I enjoyed what was there, to be sure, but I didn't take it seriously. That's kind of a shame because, in the right hands, Catwoman has the potential to be a great noirish film, even with Halle Berry's presence.
Since Sharon Stone and Halle Berry said they wouldn't ever have plastic surgery, may I suggest that Catwoman should've been done in the style of Nip/Tuck! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
Meoww! Send in the clowns!
08-04-2004, 02:34 PM
OK, let' see ... Assuming that we have to keep Halle Berry.
1.) The costume. This was the single biggest reason I chose not to see this movie. Once I saw that, lost all interest in seeing it. Should have kept the current version of the comics (all leather with googles).
2.) The plot. Anti-aging cream? Give me a break. Couldn't they have thrown one of Batman's lesser enemies at Catwoman? Lady Shiva, perhaps?
3.) The origin. Keep her as a reluctant hooker-turned-superb thief. No getting powers from cats. And no giving back stolen goods out of guilt.
What's this nonsense about Halle claiming she'd never have plastic surgery??? It's well-known that she's already had breast implants put in to increase her "marketability." She first showed them off in the famous chest scene in "Swordfish."
If implants ain't plastic surgery, what is???
08-23-2004, 09:11 PM
Hey! Hey! Plastic needs love too, you know! What? Oh yeah, Catwoman...
To have a Catwoman movie without Batman is like a Hulk movie without a guy getting pissed and turning big and green.
The IDEA of Catwoman holds such potential (empowerment of women, "I ain't gon' put up wit his stuff no mo'!") but then they went off on some damned tangent. Besides, Sharon Stone didn't kill Selina Kyle, Max Schrek (Christopher Walken) did.
I'm afraid I'm going to skip this one, even on video...well, maybe on a Tuesday night in the dead of winter.
08-24-2004, 11:43 AM
Well, acutually no one killed Catwoman, they just made that up for the last movie with her. Here they just deiced to make up more crap so you could barely reconize her if they didn't use the name Catwoman. Too bad the stuff they amde up made less sense and didn't have any of the orginality of Burton's.
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