View Full Version : Just a few questions
12-09-2004, 05:38 PM
I have a couple questions for anyone out there.
1) What do most of you use as a canvas size? My Harley manip was initially 5MB and getting it compressed to fit the DCG makes it lose detail and look fuzzy. So any advice on what size to start with for a base would be helpful.
2) To the Bossmen I ask this, what about submitting your own made up Superheroes and Villians? Or are they not allowed?
3) Does anyone else who is married have such a hard time finding time to manip because your spouse feels you are wasting your time? Or try explaining why you are looking at naked women? Just curious if there are others who share my dilema.
Thanks in advance for the help.
12-09-2004, 07:32 PM
I can help you with #2, definitely. Your own ideas, as long as they're comic related, are perfectly okay. They're called Original concepts, if you ever want to look up some. I think everyone here has done at least one.
#3- Well, you would kinda have to expect this. The DCG is, for me, private, though I don't have a spouse at this time. If you're doing these pics, you have to realize that they're
In some cases, they get creepy. But let's not go into that.
But yeah, if you're sacrificing anything out of your professional or personal life to get a pic done, you're likely overdoing it.
As for the wife and naked pictures, that's just one of those things. Don't expect your wife or any of your female friends to get enthousiastic about a picture you made by spending hours looking at and messing with a photo of a naked lady.
12-09-2004, 08:19 PM
First off since I haven't had a chance to say it... Heyla and welcome Force95b
For the size issue I can only say two suggestions I have is keep your overall dimensions down.. I try and get my pieces to display without scrolling so I work to make sure that my images are close to the lowest screen resolution of 800x600 on the compression issue... I'm not sure if PSP has the same features as Photoshop but here (http://www.comics2film.com/FAQ/FAQAnswer.php?f_id=17&f_question=How+do+I+keep+my+image%27s+file+size+do wn%3F&f_cat=JPEG+Files&f_sort=2&f_catid=6&f_qid=17) is a link on the site here to compression software if you don't have that function on PSP
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Force95B:
3) Does anyone else who is married have such a hard time finding time to manip because your spouse feels you are wasting your time? Or try explaining why you are looking at naked women? Just curious if there are others who share my dilema. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If you think that is difficult try being a woman trying to explain it http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif
12-09-2004, 08:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shaylinn:
If you think that is difficult try being a woman trying to explain it http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh dear. Didn't even think of THAT.
Interestingly, my last few pics haven't had me even LOOKING at a naked woman. This airbrush thing has it's downsides.
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12-09-2004, 08:42 PM
Not to get to personal and private about myself, but I'm a disabled veteran (bad knee) from the 1st Gulf War. The reason I devulge that is because I was about to add that I don't work, so as far as doing manips and time, well you'd think I'd have all day. However, I do have a youngin' to take care of during the day. My problem is that I have on average 6 hours to use the computer, this set up by my wife. Since I'm slow with all this technology, it doesn't leave alot of actual manipulating. Sorry don't mean to sob here. I guess my point is how much time do y'all spend on the puter and actual worktime, including research? Another thing is that as time progresses and I get better at this, then presumably I will get faster. Although, I've been drawing since I was 5 and I'm not much faster, just better. Thanks Shaylinn and Junkyard. Sorry about this post, this ain't Dr. Phil.com
12-09-2004, 09:17 PM
No need to apologize. The DCG is very much a community. We're all people with specific problems and handicaps, both physical, mental, and situational. No shame in it: It makes us human. I'm a twenty year old with an anxiety disorder that makes my muscles knot up if I stop moving for more than three minutes. I can't stay in bed for more than 15 minutes after I wake up or I feel 75 for the rest of the day. Whatchagonna do?
And as for my manip working window, it's generally from 8 at night to 10:30 or so, depending on how deep I am into a given pic.
12-09-2004, 11:02 PM
I'll take a shot at your questions...
1) Shaylin has the right idea in my opinion. There is a slight bias towards image that fill the max browser window size. That is genrally around 600 to 700 pixel tall since most people run at 1024 X 768 nowadays.
2) Not only is it okay everyone here loves original characters. They are a unique treat and honor to get to see.
3)Yes, your spouse will not always be able to understand why this occupies your time. My best advice is to try to be understanding and sensitive to thier feelings. Also I can only imagine that your wife is special to you, so it can not hurt to express that. I find that when I tend to get too deeply obsessed I need the reality check so as not to neglect my personal relationships. As far as the nudity goes I have far more discomfort with my children around so I tend to look for images after bedtime.
Oh and I have found that I am spending more and more time on single images and projects as I progress. I have noticed that this happens frequently with other artists here as well. My last image that I completed took me a total of about 20 hours start to finish over a period of several days. The one I am currently working on is well past that number and I don't believe that I am even half way through yet.
Welcome again, Force. Let me just say it's great to have someone new contributing to the message boards, rather than just posting to the gallery.
Now, to try to answer your questions... 1. Canvas size will vary from pic to pic, scenes are a lot bigger than portraits, for example, but it's generally good to keep the width down to about 450 to 650 pixels. If you want to work on a bigger canvas that's cool, of course, lots of people do (including myself), but you'll probably have to shrink down the final image a bit before posting. There's some questions you may want to look at in the DCG FAQ, actually, stuff to do with image size and getting file size down. (Click on the link entitled "DCG Help" in the sidebar that shows up when you go into the gallery)
2. Original Characters rule. I just won an award for one, though, so I'm biased. http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/smile.gif
How much time do I spend on manips? I'll usually take some 4-5 hrs somewhere between 8pm and 4am. (I do my best work at night, with less distractions) No idea how much time I spend on research... just enough to find a good reference pic, really. But don't worry about the amount of time it takes you to finish a piece. It takes as long as it takes. Nothing kills artwork like rushing it. I usually take at least about 2 weeks per manip, and there's people who shall remain nameless (but let's arbitrarily call them Essex) that can take a full year on one pic.
Oh, and I'm a horrible procrastinator (I'm a history student, and I've specialized in writing essays in a week), acrophobic (scared of heights) and have a mild inferiority complex (though I've no real reason to). So yeah, I'm as screwed up as anyone. Yay. http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
12-10-2004, 08:42 AM
Thanks guys, y'all made me feel somewhat normal. After reading what was said, it makes me feel like I don't have to get a project done in two minutes. I think the problem is that I'm excited to do this stuff and I want instant gratification. I need to just slow down and realize good things come to those who have some patience. I don't have my kids around when nudity is on the screen either and when I look at it from my wife's perspective, I suppose I would feel a tad "uncomfortable" about her browsing the beefcake sites. However, being the artist I am, looking at one nude pix is the same as another. I love human anatomy, never got into drawing anything else. I know now that that isn't the best, I need to know how to draw anything and draw it well. Ok, nuff babbling, thanks again people for the encouragement and have a good holiday, whatever you celebrate.
12-10-2004, 09:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Force95B:
Thanks guys, y'all made me feel somewhat normal. After reading what was said, it makes me feel like I don't have to get a project done in two minutes. I think the problem is that I'm excited to do this stuff and I want instant gratification. I need to just slow down and realize good things come to those who have some patience. I don't have my kids around when nudity is on the screen either and when I look at it from my wife's perspective, I suppose I would feel a tad "uncomfortable" about her browsing the beefcake sites. However, being the artist I am, looking at one nude pix is the same as another. I love human anatomy, never got into drawing anything else. I know now that that isn't the best, I need to know how to draw anything and draw it well. Ok, nuff babbling, thanks again people for the encouragement and have a good holiday, whatever you celebrate.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, >ahem< this is going to sound neurotic on my behalf, considering I have no kids to worry about, but I tend to "censor" base pics as I get them. IE. blend the nipples, navels and "naughty bits" out, since I know they won't be useful for future projects. I keep a folder of Heroes and Heroines who all have no nipples, navels or genitalia. LOL I'm sure if someone found this folder they'd be more concerned than finding nudes. Though in your instance, it might be a good idea, that way if your kids or wife see the base pics they'll know it's for your artwork, not anything untoward. Not sure if that's helpful, but hey, I tried. LOL Good luck in your future endeavors, and welcome to C2F
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12-10-2004, 09:59 AM
I dunno. In terms of general society, having a gallery full of nudes sounds fairly normal, but keeping a gallery of sexless people seems the kinda thing that ends you up in trouble.
"But officer, I did it for the CHILDREN'S sake!"
"Come on, ya sicko."
Just fooling with you.
12-10-2004, 06:16 PM
Hey Bearbot, actually I think what your doing is good. For me, those pesky nipples and those other "naughty bits" tend to get in the way of blending. I've tried implementing the start2finish tutorial, but when models have clothes or the above that I don't want, I'm having problems. I've gone through all the tutorials on clean up and everything, but if there were a tutorial on removing those things that would be nice. I've tried the clone tool and push brush, but I can't make it look clean. Instead the model looks like a Frankenstein reject. I'm sure it'll take practice.
12-10-2004, 06:36 PM
Hmm. Do you have a standard airbrush tool and a color finder? (You know, that can choose a color from the picture itself?)
If so, you just take color samples from the surrounding areas, or similarily lighted area, and fill in lightly until everything looks right.
Otherwise, yeah, just a lot of tiny, careful adjustments.
12-10-2004, 07:22 PM
At first, welcome to DCG,Force95B! This place is cool, full of great and kind people.U'll love it http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif.
About the naked people on the hd, i had some embarassing situations before I started to use Poser to create the major part of my body bases.Try to explain to your mom or boyfriend why the heck you have huge pic of naked women doing "sexy" poses. Or go check why the people of the maintenance is taking so long to take your pc back and find them brownsing that folder of naked girls...They just didn't look at me with a more weird expression 'cuase I had some guys naked, as couples.They just think I'm pervert,i suppose.
God save the Poser!!^^ But ,once in a while, i still looking aound the 'artistic nude" sites, now as photgraphic reference.
Again,welcome and kisses!
**For the Freedom of Choice**
Debbie aka Lady D.
I usually manip based on pics of clothed models nowadays, the poses are more realistic. I've never really seen a tutorial about getting rid of clothing, I just sort of depend on my eye and my own artistic judgment to smudge away the clothes. You may want to check out Strangefish's Do It Yerself Nudity tutorial in the art school, it's the only one I've seen that deals with clothed models. It's not quite getting rid of clothes, but it can give you a perfectly decent "catsuit" look.
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