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Sonic1002
12-23-2004, 01:28 PM
I'm not doing the one who is going to do this... But I felt you all may want have a topic opened for it.

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Junkyard
12-23-2004, 04:26 PM
An interesting update today:

Original Concept: Sitara Kiandra Sharra by MaidenRaine1300- Neat. Elektra-esque.

Frosty The Snowman by NightScroller- Some good work on color, glass and metal effects, and general resourcefulnes. The mixig is a little rough, though.

Power Girl by the uatus- Overall, pretty good. It looks a little jaged around the bottom of the costume.

Aurora by Majik1387- Cool concept, though I'd never want to see THAT particular Canadian mutant in a movie. The pants are rather blurry, undefined. Unless it's a skirt, in which case it's too tight.


Another Universe Mixed..... by bearpod91- Hmm. Not entirely sure how to judge this. It's interesting, no doubt.

Fan Four Movie Poster by mordennight- Wow. Great pic mixing, great atmospheric effects, good lettering. One thing, though- why is Doom showed twice? (I know, I know. You wanted balance, and it's all you had at your disposal. We understand.)

Laughing Gas by lamor112- Fun. Eek.

A Welling Superman by darthbakpao- Nicely done. Good shadows.


Grace/virtua by Chelle- Quite good for a first submission. Also a really interesting concept. Still, I should mention that the composition looks a bit cluttered, and I still haven't figured out what the robot is there for.

Batman Cityscape by Spartan XVX- Another first timer! Quite a clean job with the cutout, too.

Psylocke by encforme- Good job. Light, shadow, color. Nice backround, good emphasis around Psy. I'm not sure, so I'll just ask: Is the costume fitting right around her right hip?


Wonder Man by bearbot- Great pic. No complaints. Poor dope: Fidgeting around with his shades as he falls towards his ironic death.

Original Concept: Zonic by Sonic1002- The metal's pretty good, as is the mixing of elements. Overall, One thing I'd suggest: Work to make the charicter match the backround. The hair ends rather abruptly.

Lego/dcg Crossover Number? by sickboy_ukuk- So is this a finale or a switch in direction? Anyway, fun.

Unmasked by 509thSPS- Very nice. You must have spent a good amount of time on it.



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Biohaz_Daddy
12-23-2004, 08:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sonic1002:
<B>I'm not doing the one who is going to do this...

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Why not? It's a rule you start a UIR thread you have to do one. At least I think it's a rule. Well it should be.

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I don't know why I did it, I don't know why I enjoyed it, and I don't know why I'll do it again.

Biohaz_Daddy
12-23-2004, 08:02 PM
Original Concept: Sitara Kiandra Sharra by MaidenRaine1300
The line work in color that was suggested you try some time ago is working well for you. The wrinkle work is nicely done again. Now you need to work on cleaning up your lines. Try to get them as smooth as possible. Paint doesn’t give you perfect lines but you can adjust them once they are drawn, so that they conform to the form you are rendering. Take the bodice on this picture for example; you could have cleaned up the curves you drew. I sure it won’t be easy, but it would be an improvement.

frosty the snowman by NightScroller
Good work, I’d say this is your best to date. This has a lot of excellent elements that all appear well considered and appropriate. I particularly love the frosty window framing the picture, very creative.

Power Girl by the uatus
Are you able to get at the reviews? I know you had some concerns early on due to the language barrier, have you had any success with translation? I hope you can find a method of adding some kind of art notes since you work isn’t even getting dated. Anyway, as for this piece the shading and your rendering is very soft, so a lot of the detail is blurry. I have this same problem and am trying to work my way through it. I have found that doing the shading while that shape or structure is in selection helps, but generally it’s is a matter of starting with things crisply delineated that works the best. Otherwise you have to stick to it until it’s clear.

Aurora by Majik1387
Good job on eliminating the blurry. Now we have to work on the transitions in your shading. Take a look at the bodice (I seem to focused on bodices today). It has multiple shades of gray. Now look at the pants, you have a mid-tone and black, and maybe a little bleed between the two. See what I mean? Light bounces everywhere so it reflects on everything, even in shadows. Too see what I mean look at her left arm; do you see how bright the edge in shadow is? That’s reflected light.

Another Universe Mixed..... by bearpod91
This is crazy, trippy, and cool. Experimentation is an excellent way to learn. The part that works the most to me is the smokey flame. What I would like to have seen are clearer images of the Southpark kids to start out with. I know they are out there, or better yet, draw them yourself.

Fan Four Movie Poster by mordennight
This looks very good. The only real problem I have is with the position of the black text. I think dropping it to the bottom of the poster and maybe using a blue black, rather than pure black, would have worked better visually

Laughing Gas by lamor112
Well done on both the drawing and the coloring. The drawing shows a good understanding of facial structures. The problem you have here is that the upper and lower portions of the face are pointing in different directions. The nose is the line connecting the two centerlines. That’s why it is so slanted. As far as the coloring goes I would have liked a subtle addition of color to the skin rather than monochromatic, but that’s me.

a Welling Superman by darthbakpao
Very good work… Nothing really stands out as a problem. A nitpick for you is that there is a barely visible dirty aura around him. Did you have a hand in the background at all?

Grace/Virtua by Chelle
Welcome Chelle, I don’t have a lot for you on this one. You photoshop work is really well done and the character is interesting enough, but nothing is clicking with me. Maybe if it were a little bigger…

Batman Cityscape by Spartan XVX
Welcome Spartan, This reminds me of a silent movie. It’s almost monochromatic, it’s grainy, the Batman silhouette, and the oval framing are all reminiscent of that style of imagery. I don’t know what you were going for, but it works for me in that way.

the return of a messiah by eceDrihten
I know what you were going for, but the results are somewhat ominous. The shadowed eyes, the dramatic lighting, the pitch black shadows, all combine to make him look as though he isn’t here to help exactly. The overall image is quite good, particularly the shading. Despite it not working for me the way you intended, I like it a lot. It’s not every day you get to see such a creepy supes.

Psylocke by encforme
The background is fantastic. You are another member in this update who I think has done a personal best in this post. Well done! Junkz is right about the costume, it isn’t symmetrical. Other than that your costuming shows some real improvement over your previous work. I like the butterfly power effect as well.

Wonder Man by bearbot
Good Work! I wish I had something to nitpick on. Oh wait there’s the cat…

… I’m back. You ever notice cats really don’t like to have their nits picked? Go figure.

Original Concept: Zonic by Sonic1002
Good work on the metal. The helmet design is cool; it reminds me of a modern version of Ming the Merciless’s. You did well enough on the helmet, how about trying your hand on the rest of the armor?

LEGO/DCG crossover number? by sickboy_ukuk
The work is good as usual, but I just don’t understand what Flash and Cap’n are up to.

Unmasked by 509thSPS
Another new artist… Welcome 509thSPS. This is a very nice pencil drawing. This needs some more dramatic darks. It is all so very medium tone. I would also suggest you clean up your scan. Brighten the paper to white.

Zac
12-23-2004, 08:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Biohaz_Daddy:
<B> Why not? It's a rule you start a UIR thread you have to do one. At least I think it's a rule. Well it should be.

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Yeah, only start a UIR if you intend to write one or at least comment on some of the pics

k-man
12-23-2004, 08:26 PM
This is my first UIR. i just started submiting my work recently and thought i should do this for you as you do it for me. Note that even though i may point out a negative aspect of your work, it doesn't mean i don't make the same choices/mistakes. So, here we go...
Original Concept: Sitara Kiandra Sharra by MaidenRaine1300: good effort for an ap like paint. You’d really take it to another level in photshop.

Frosty The Snowman by NightScroller- very creative. With a little more finish work you may have attained more realism.

Power Girl by the uatus- Daddy like. A little on the soft side. Feathering is a wonderful thing, but you’ve got to find balance. Maybe take 10 minutes and add some wrinkles to the outfit like where her arms fold, etc. Nice work.

Aurora by Majik1387- desaturating is always where I start before re-coloring. And you get nothing if you don’t make a good selection. Well done on both counts. The "silver" wall would reflect slightly on her skin in some way. You should play with that a little and see if it looks more realistic.

Another Universe Mixed..... by bearpod91: what can I say, it is what it is. Very creative.

Fan Four Movie Poster by mordennight: good work. Nice design. Good composition.

Laughing Gas by lamor112: you’ve got some good things going on here. Keep experimenting and keep on drawing. Two things though: good nose, but it looks out of joint – pointing in the wrong direction. Maybe batman just clocked him? And the blue stuff coming from his mouth – Crest or Aqua-fresh? Drool is cool, but not when it’s blue – l.

A Welling Superman by darthbakpao- everything is excellent – I especially like the type treatment and the logo. Not diggin’ the hair – you applied it well, it’s just that supes has some goofy hair. Indonesia is lucky to have you!

Grace/virtua by Chelle- technically done well and an interesting concept. Keep submitting, let’s see what else you’ve got.

Batman Cityscape by Spartan XVX- could have used a little more resolution on this, but on the other hand it gives it a kind of gritty feel very appropriate for batman.

The return of the messiah by eceDrihten: when you consider the name of the piece and see how dark and foreboding it is, frankly this kind of creeps me out a little. It definitely has quality.

Psylocke by encforme- I think I like the treatment of the background better than the subject herself the design is cool. Is there a huge butterfly on her nose?

Wonder Man by bearbot- nice job with the colors – a little soft on the edges in places – like on the belt pouches.

Original Concept: Zonic by Sonic1002- pretty clean job. I’d have tried to get the gold on his head piece thing to match the gold on his chest protector. And the glare on his shades should maybe go pinkish white instead of goldish white.

Lego/dcg Crossover Number? by sickboy_ukuk- what happens next?

Unmasked by 509thSPS- great proportions and likeness. My advice: consider line quality and light lights and dark darks. Tonally it is a little washed out – but an excellent base. Bring this image into photoshop and do IMAGE&gt;ADJUST&gt;AUTOLEVELS and it will give you a rough idea of what it could look like. Play with the levels a little more and see what’s possible and try to translate that into your pencil drawings.

B
12-23-2004, 08:38 PM
Original Concept: Sitara Kiandra Sharra by MaidenRaine1300
As always, not bad for Paint, with some nice wrinkles and colouring, but I again suggest you should look at some work done in Illustrator for some ideas as to how you can approach shading with discrete colours. Or better yet, get a better application. Even if you can't get Photoshop, you can always try out a free alternative like the GIMP. As for the hair, the main problem to me is that it's a lot darker than her natural hair, and that it's too thick. Plus it doesn't really follow the flow of the hair everywhere.

Frosty The Snowman by NightScroller
I think this is your best work to date. Good costuming, nice work on the goggles and neckpiece, and I really like the frost effect. Cool touch. The neck thingy seems a lot thinner on the (screen) left side than othe right. Looks kinda lopsided. Also, the skin tone's just a bit too uniform, I'd at least go in with the burn tool and accentuate the shadows a bit more. Finally, the smoke in the helmet doesn't look particularly realistic, you might have been better off using difference clouds or something. Again though, very good piece overall.

Aurora by Majik1387
Good pic, your best that you've posted here... until that Emma Frost pic shows up, anyway. It's less blurry, which is good. Next I'd suggest (and here I'm basically repeating Biohaz, though I wrote this before he posted his UIR) working on getting more subtle shading. The pants here are basically all either one specific shade of grey, or they're black. They need more gradation. All you really need to do is go in with dodge and burn set to a smallish brush and fairly low exposure. The white bits have better shading. Besides that, there's some really jagged edges here, anti-alias your selections before you start playing around with them. And the x on the choker looks really flat. I'd check out dperceful's metal tutorial for some ideas as to how to make those kinds of accessories more 3D looking.

Another Universe Mixed..... by bearpod91
Um... Weird. Well weird. Not bad or anything, just... weird. Unique, really, so that's a plus. Experimentation is good. The picture quality's kinda wonky. Uh... sorry, I really don't know what to say about this. I like it.

Fan Four Movie Poster by mordennight
Welcome to the DCG! Good debut. I guess this is a cut-n-paste with effects added? That's the impression I get from your art notes, anyway. If so, good job. Nice layout, nice text, cool lightning. Very nice lightning, in fact. I like the way it interacts with the logo. Don't really see any problems with it, cool stuff.

Laughing Gas by lamor112
Nice pic, nice hair and generally nice pencils. Nice colouring too. The background's okay, though nothing special. But he looks rather like a chipmunk... those're very puffy cheeks. Also, I'd have drawn his shoulders and a bit of jacket, or added them in Photoshop. The way his head is floating just looks odd. Plus he's crosseyed. Which is obviously intentional, but... kinda weird.

A Welling Superman by darthbakpao
Whoa, awesome. Excellent sophmore effort. Great pose (I envy you Poser...), great costuming and background. There's no major problems with this, but I do have a couple nitpicks: the neck area looks a bit weird, I get the impression it's too dark. Or something. Second, the bottom edge of his cape is blurry in spots. I don't mean the motion blur at the ends, but the area immediately to the (screen) left of his face. Otherwise, this is gold.

Grace/virtua by Chelle
Welcome to the DCG! Very good debut. Cool concept, and quite well done as well. The phasing effect is particularly well done. I'm not sure if you made the robot, but it's cool as well. My main problems with this pic are, first, that it's really small and second, I'd have just done the version of the character with the power effect, and not added the other one. I'm guessing this is meant to be a wallpaper, at which size having two pics might work, but at this small size it just clutters everything up. Still, a very good pic, good job. And thanks for the art notes!

Batman Cityscape by Spartan XVX
Welcome to the DCG. Proper art notes would be appreciated, I have no idea what you did here. Did you just add Bats, or did you do anything to the background? Damned if I know. It's quite good, nice sort of Noirish feel to it. But it's kind of, I dunno, faded looking. A bit more contrast (ie, sharper shadows and highlights) would be nice.

The Return Of A Messiah by eceDrihten
Good use of shadow on this one. Very nice lighting, except for the halo. He's glowing! I'd really get rid of whatever effect you applied to get that, or at least erase it from all the black parts.

Psylocke by encforme
Very nice pic. I also think your best work to date. The background is gorgeous, it really looks great. The costuming's very nice as well, nice wrinkles. Those two wrinkles on the (screen) left side of her torso look kinda weird though, a bit overdone to my eye. The power effect is nice but more of a glow would be cool, might make it more visible. Just put it in a new layer set to screen or something like that. Again, awesome pic, my favourite of the update.

Wonder Man by bearbot
Awesome pic. Great costuming, nice work on the belt and, well, everything really. I really like the wrinkles on his legs for some reason. Nitpicks: the (screen) left pouch-thingy is a bit blurry; the shadow on his right/screen left leg is a bit, I dunno, solid... I'd suggest blending it a bit more; and the base pic is really grainy. Again, great pic.

Original Concept: Zonic by Sonic1002
Good pic, cool concept. The helmet is really nicely done, good job with the metal. The thick black line just above the visor thingy seems a bit out of place though. Also, shouldn't the lens flare be on the eye itself? (I'm guessing it's a lens flare, if so you may want to check out some tutorials on dynamic lighting... lens flares are not the best way to do this stuff) And yeah, why not try to do the rest of the armour too?

Lego/dcg Crossover Number? by sickboy_ukuk
Heh. I like. The legos are always fun.

Unmasked by 509thSPS
Welcome to the DCG! Nice debut, a very good drawing. Other than the lack of contrast the others have mentioned, I don't really see any problems with it... The leg looks sort of bendy. That's about it.

Force95B
12-24-2004, 09:15 AM
Original Concept: Sitara Keandra Sharra by MaidenRaine1300-I tend to agree with the others about somehow trying to move out of Paint and into something that could bring out your talents better. Aside from some blending the only problem I have is the headband is coming up to high on her head.

Frosty the snowman by NightScroller-Overall well done. Clean up some edges. Neck piece is off kilter. The head looks like it was cut off and just put on a plater under glass. I do like the metallic look of the neck piece, and the skin coloring. I can't see any clouds. Keep at it.

PowerGirl by the Uatus-Pretty decent work. Cape and gloves look good. Boots could use some better shading. The costume itself is good in itself, but the color looks bland, TO ME. Maybe give the belt some dodge and burn to make it not look connected to the costume.

Aurora by Majik1387-The only "complaints" I have are the edges on the pants and the shading of the pants. Other than that it looks fine. Oh, maybe add a ...dang I'm sitting here and can't remember the word. The shiny thing on the lips, what is that? Not reflection or highlight. You know what I mean.

Another Universe Mixed by Bearpod91- This would have been even better had you spent more time on it? Or made Kenny dead? It's cool though. Darn brothers.

Fan Four Movie Poster by Mordennight- I like what you did with the publicity shot. I might have done something different with the names, but that is purely artist preference. Cool effects and the fade-in of the other characters.

Laughing Gas by Lamor112-Good pencil work. His neck shows a 3/4 view but the face is basically straight on. This makes him look awkward. The nose is drawn well, but looks broke. Actually the hair looks quite nice. Very good work.

A Welling Superman by Darthbakpao-Good job. It must be nice to have Poser. I'd have to agree though that the neck is to dark, almost like you are trying to hide something. Foreshortening is not an easy thing to do. But it looks like you handled it very well. Just a real nice pic.

Grace/Virtua by Chelle-Welcome to C2F. I like learning about the characters so the bio is great. Now the picture has left me a bit perplexed. I'm not sure what purpose the robot serves. Looks like he jumped into the picture. Maybe if you explain it. I agree with B that it looks kinda cluttered, I really would like to see the effects more. As it is I have a hard time seeing them. Maybe try another one without the robot. Keep it coming though.

Batman Cityscape by Spartan XVX-Needs some artnotes. I don't like commenting when I don't know what has or hasn't been done. Looks Batman Gritty.

The return of a messiah by EceDrihten-You know this pic kinda weirded me out too. Maybe it's the eyes and the darkness.(Shudders) Nicely done. Let's see some more

Psylocke by encforme-Very nice shading and use of wrinkles/folds. Nice background. Two things though: the costume over her right hip looks funky and the butterfly effect(I believe that's what it is)is hard to see. In fact I wouldn't have seen it had I not seen the different color on her arm. Other than those two things it is a cool looking manip.

WonderMan by bearbot-Not to much to nitpick here, great job. I spose that flare on his glasses looks to much or to something. Maybe the black parts look to sharp, perhaps blended in more?

Oringinal Concept: Zonic by Sonic1002-Everything looks nice and the effects of the helmet are nice. The problem I see is that it doesn't fit with the rest of the armor, color wise. But the background and the rest is good. Do some more.

Lego/DCG crossover number? by sickboy_ukuk-Another cool piece, legos are always cool. It's a fun series. I like the Flash's effects. Kudos to you.

Unmasked by 509thSPS-Pencil work is my first love so I like this drawing alot. Some darker tones here and there and highlights on the webbing would help. Where the costume is ripped you could fold back the edges to give it some more depth and realism. Take a look at real ripped fabric to give you an idea. It is really nicely done and the fact that you add the "real" look is great. Incindently what does your screen name represent? I served with the 509th MP Co when I was in the Army. Any connection to the military?

Ok, well I just spent over an hour doing this UIR so I'm a tad fatigued. Hope you all continue to submit, learn and improve. Just like I'm trying to do. I'm right there with ya. Have a great Holiday and Happy New Year.

Majik1387
12-24-2004, 11:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Force95B:
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Aurora by Majik1387-The only "complaints" I have are the edges on the pants and the shading of the pants. Other than that it looks fine. Oh, maybe add a ...dang I'm sitting here and can't remember the word. The shiny thing on the lips, what is that? Not reflection or highlight. You know what I mean. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you are referring to the white line on her lips those are her teeth. If that's not what you're talking about, I don't know what is.

Pod
12-24-2004, 12:29 PM
After 5 UIR's of a wierd entry i just realized having that pic with no idea what it truly is makes the viewer...CONFUSED!!! but i did work on it alot with all the different looks and powers. i tryed alot of experiments on the smoke/fire and the plastic man version of cartman. but the giant cat hand now i think i should have erased anyway. but if u foget that stuff and look at the 4 guys. where did i go wrong on it there? the fuzzy look must be the base pic look, or i made the quality too low. thanx for saying its wierd because i really wanted that too. maybe i should make more wierd pics.....

Force95B
12-24-2004, 05:19 PM
Hey Majik1387 I hope you weren't put off by my comments. When I used the word complaint I put it in parenthesis cuz I was having trouble thinking of a better word. I'm certainly not complaining. NO NO No, nitpicking, critiqueing, whatever you want to call it. And I was not referring to her teeth, I was referring to having a soft shine, gloss to her lips. A highlight.
Bearpod91 I'm sure you did work on it alot, I don't think anyone here was trying to insult you. I like southpark and those crazy kids. Nothing wrong with weird.