Superman : The Last Son of Krypton (Casting)

[Dr. Fahrenheit]

Hello all.

Just keeping things fresh here. I haven't done much with the Batman board yet, but I will be cleaning it up soon.

Meanwhile, let us talk casting even though we lost our heroic shitty director.

Still no Superman, yet we have heard Matthew Bomer and Brendan Fraser. Well post away.


Thanks,
Doc F

[Weapon One]

I am going to say that, I really don't mind Ian Somerhalder all that much, but he needs to spend the rest of 2003 and some of 2004 eating and working out with Tobey Maguire's trainer.

Somerhalder has those similar features that Christopher Reeve had when he was younger. In fact I was looking around at some of his pics on certain websites and I really think I like the kid as a younger Superman.

I buy it. I still would cast Billy Zane or Colm Feore as Lex Luthor, and now Brett Ratner has me liking the idea of Ralph Fiennes as Jor-El.

I would not try, and "update" or "tweak" the mythos or anything like that. I would basically remake the original series, but do it in a 21st century way that doesn't hurt the integrity of the character.

In essence do like they did with Spider-Man and amalgamate some of the origin tales.


-Weapon One

[Optimus Prime]

I like Somerhalder better than Matthew Bomer for sure. I think he has similar attributes to Chris Reeve, but he desperately needs to feed his body.

I do like Ralph Fiennes as Jor-El, but I also like the idea of Anthony Hopkins. That has me a bit syked.

I like Billy Zane as Luthor, but I would assume someone better can be found, and personally, I would prefer someone other than Colm Feore who is a marvelous actor in his own way.



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[ModeMan]

I don't like Somerhalder. He looks like he's always blushing, always wearing eye-liner, and is always stoned. It's not make-up either. It's his complexion. I still like Bomer, but apperently Ratner left because they wouldn't let him cast Bomer so I guess that isn't gonna happen.

[Búrzdúsh]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Optimus Prime:
I like Somerhalder better than Matthew Bomer for sure. I think he has similar attributes to Chris Reeve, but he desperately needs to feed his body.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

mmmm... it has the similar to Reeve, but Tom Welling has more age that Bomer and if this in Smallville it is for something ... you do not believe?

[Optimus Prime]

i will admit that Somerhalder, for lack of a better term does kind of look gay, especially his eyes, but i still would not mind seeing him in the role, more so than anyone else I have heard of.




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[Dr. Fahrenheit]

Gay looking ?

Well I guess I could see that, especially since he played Paul Denton in The Rules of Attraction. He used to be a model, so that explains a lot already. He has that boney face similar to Christopher Reeve, but I do not know how good of an actor he truly is.

He seriously needs to hit the weights, but as for looks, I would love to see someone try and photoshop him as Superman.

Thanks,
Doc F

[Megatron]

Well here are some of my breakdowns of who we have heard as candidates thus far.

Jonathon Schaech is short, and he looks short. That will be a major problem. Superman at least needs to look tall.

Victor Webster couldn't act his way out of a box. I saw him the other night on Mutant X just to see him, and he was awful, he was AWFUL, I hate his ability.

Brendan Fraser is kinda old, and he is way too recognizable right now. He should have been cast like 7 years ago or so, if not ten.
Too much of a movie star.

Matthew Bomer. I just don't know if I like his look. You see the key is, can they play Clark Kent, and Superman with equal conviction ? I never felt that Dean Cain was a good Clark Kent; that and he looks short to me, and stocky. Bomer doesn't do it for me.

Josh Hartnett is all wrong. We need not even go into it.

Jude Law would have been great for Batman v. Superman, but not a Superman franchise.

Paul Walker is the next Keanu Reeves.

Ashton Kutcher, what the hell were they thinking ?

Jerry O'Connell was merely a throwaway name that was just there and nothing at all.

Henry Cavill is a good actor, that is just all wrong for the part. So far damn near everyone sucks.

Jim Caviezel is too old for a remake, if they were to do Superman Lives he would be fine, but they are not, so he is too old.

Ian Somerhalder is the best in the face, and only because he slightly resembles Chris Reeve.

These are not the best candidates people.

I guess there will be no Superman.



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-Megatron

[panther38]

I don't see why anyone don't see it. But Joe Millionaire is the perfect to play Superman. He has the look and mannerism of the character. Anthony Hopkins is also perfect for the role of Jor-el. I could not see anyone else play Supes dad, then Hannibal himself.

[Megatron]

The fact that Evan Marriott is known as Joe Millionaire makes him a living joke.

He looks like a male bimbo. He looks like a flaming idiot, and I doubt he is a good actor. I hate it when people choose non-actors for their cast list. "Dude I think Glenn Danzig should play Wolverine", please give me a break.

Evan Marriott is not an actor, and he really doesn't look like Clark Kent, he looks like a model or something. He sounds like an idiot, his voice is stupid.



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[Jedi Master Khalel]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Megatron:
<B>
Brendan Fraser is kinda old, and he is way too recognizable right now. He should have been cast like 7 years ago or so, if not ten.
Too much of a movie star.
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Now that I think, could anyone of you explain me (or remind me)why don't you like a big name or recognizable star in the main role?'Cause all you are saying is "too old", "too unknown", "too gay looking".
What makes you think that a famous star would't give the Superman franchise a push?
Just asking...

Greetings,
Jose a.k.a. Jedi Master Khalel

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[ModeMan]

Because the name becomes bigger than the role for one. For another, Fraser's name is one of a big, chubby clown. People would think too much in the way of Fraser rather than Superman. It's the same as one of the big reasons Marriot would never be considered. People would go to see Joe Millionaire play Superman instead of seeing Superman. In the same sense, people would go out of curiosity to see Dudly Do-Right play Superman. That shouldn't be the way it is.

I maintain that Bomer is the best. Out of all the actors presented, I think he has the best look. Very much a clean-cut nice guy image that every other actor in the running lacks except Fraser, who I don't like for the role. Bomer is experienced in acting but is generally an unknown. So the name wouldn't precede the title. He's a young fresh face. He seems the best to me.
http://www.cbs.com/daytime/gl/about/bios/mbomer.shtml

[ModeMan]

Also, sorry, I don't see the resemblance between Somerhalder and Reeve. Maybe the slightest. Somerhalder looks more like an older, strung out version of Tom Welling.

[ModeMan]

One more thing. Jeez sorry.
Some of my comments about Fraser were pretty harsh. That's my opinion of him at it's lowest. I actually like the guy. I think he's pretty funny and enjoy some of his work. He seems really cool. I just don't like him for the role of Superman.

[Hughes]

What about daniel day-lewis? he could pull off any thing, including a double roll as clark ans supes

[Dr. Fahrenheit]

Back when World's Finest was first thought of in the mid to late 1990's Day-Lewis was the choice for Superman, but now he is way too old, so he is without question a non-candidate.


-Doc F

[Optimus Prime]

These are not my choices, these picks belong to my friend Bad Andy. He wants to know what you all think of his picks.

Be sure to tell why these picks would or would not work in your opinions.

Christina Ricci for Lois Lane or Rose McGowan, or even Neve Campbell. He also wants Jonathon Schaech, Joaquin Phoenix, or Matthew Bomer.



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[Golden Falcon]

Joaquin Phoenix as Kal-El. What a joke thats more ridculous than Brenden Fraser. I mean the guy is the biggest wuss in the acting community. Gimme a break.

I recommend that people should really acquaint themselves with The Fleishers work, Kirk Alyn, or George Reeve.

Superman is a tough good guy not a wuss.

[Optimus Prime]

Give me more feedback, than just that, I want feedback on his other choices as well.
I personally want to prove to him, that his choices are all wrong.



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[Frostbite]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Golden Falcon:
<B>Joaquin Phoenix as Kal-El. What a joke thats more ridculous than Brenden Fraser. I mean the guy is the biggest wuss in the acting community. Gimme a break.
Superman is a tough good guy not a wuss.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hello? It's called ACTING!!!!!!
Let's define it, shall we?
"To play the part of; assume the dramatic role of."
Duh.

[ModeMan]

I acutally don't think the idea of Juaquin Phoenix is that bad. What makes him a wuss? He played tough guys in Gladiator(a coward but not a wuss), and in Signs(he took out that Alien with the baseball bat and looked like a badass all the while).
So I don't think he's that bad, but I don't think he's right. I'd still take him over Paul Walker.
I love his pic for Matthew Bomer as Superman.

I don't like any of his Lois pics. Sorry. I don't like them at all. Ricci and McGowan are trashy, ash-tray goth rejects only one of whom can act(not McGowan), and Neve who? That chick from Scream who dropped off the earth?

[Golden Falcon]

LMAO - Juaquin Phoenix sux as an actor he was only believeable in 8MM.

And yes I'd rather see Paul Walker in the role any day of the week.

[Dr. Fahrenheit]

Joaquin Phoenix being a horrible actor is a bit of a push there my friend. He is a very capable actor, actually damn good.

Is he Superman ? No way in hell ! Is he a wuss ? Go hang out with the guy. Thus far he has shown some range, maybe he hasn't "blown" anyone away, but he is good.

He's better than Ben Affleck, and is as good or at least in the same class as Matt Damon and Christian Bale, and even the new god for some guys out there Edward Norton.

Truth is, the man is solid, beyond solid, but he is not Superman.

As for Christina Ricci, very good actress, horrible Lois Lane, she does indeed look like some sort of Goth-white trash mix.

^DocF

[trapdinsteel]

I am still saying Amanda Peet as my number one pick for Lois Lane. She's perfect, she can pull off that tough girl b%#ch that Lois needs to be, and her smile is perfect to catch a man of steel.
http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/4842_02_thumb.jpg

Here's my Perry White. R. Lee Ermey. Yep thats right, the drill sergeant from full metal jacket and the host of mail call on the history channel. So we know that the guy has a good yelling voice and he looks good with a cigar. He's perfect.
http://www.rleeermey.com/images/ermey01.jpg

Matthew Bomer, Eddie Cibrian, Mike O'hearn were all people that i had in mind for Superman but I'll be back with more cast picks...

[D.K.HOOD]

Hey whatever happened to the guy who played Nightman? I thought that he did pretty good considering how cheesy the show was. I think he could pull off the role of Superman.

[Kwick22a]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
Hey whatever happened to the guy who played Nightman? I thought that he did pretty good considering how cheesy the show was. I think he could pull off the role of Superman.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He's going to be in the next two Matrix movies. He plays Agent Thompson.

[Dr. Fahrenheit]

I just looked over at the Digital Concepts lab of our beloved website, and Craig posted a nice pic of Matthew Bomer as Superman, and now I think I might just be a Bomer supporter.

This should make everyone happy, so now you all can sleep.

Thanks,
Doc F

[ModeMan]

Thanks, Doc and trapd. Nice to know I'm not alone in the Bomer support. The guy just looks so right. And he acts. Why not?

[Golden Falcon]

What about this guy?



Michael Trucco

Pix at www.imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com)

I've seen him act and he looks like Kal-El.

[Frostbite]

Triple ugh! Never!

[D.K.HOOD]

Oh that's the guy from Pensacola:Wings of Gold isn't it. From what I remember he's a pretty big guy and he did kind of play a square on the show. I don't have a problem with him.

[RandolfKing]

I'm going to ask a very naive question, here...

Given that the project seems stalled once more, is it possible to make a casting suggestion directly to the film's casting person (by writing to him/her, or otherwise)?

I have got one interesting idea of casting; it would be daring (as it involves someone who is unknown to the Hollywood scene), but the potential is extraordinary.

Anyway, I am under no illusion as to the likelihood that an outside suggestion would even be considered (one chance in ten thousand, if that?)...

But, just so that I could say I tried, does anybody know how to go about putting forward such a suggestion to the powers that be?

[akira842]

you bcan't cause it'll never reach them. you have to no a name , a location an exact location and stalled or not those people surely aren't just sitting around waiting for this project they're always working .

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[RandolfKing]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by akira842:
you can't cause it'll never reach them. you have to know a name, an exact location, and stalled or not those people surely aren't just sitting around waiting for this project they're always working.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I'm sure you're right, that they're always working on it, and possibly often on the move (and I most certainly guess that they don't expect---or will very much welcome---a suggestion from me!)...

Yet I had hoped that some people in the know on this board could suggest some email address of someone at WB with the very faint chance that, in the end, my little idea could trickle down to a casting agent (or some of his assistants) on that project...

I mean, SURELY, these casting agents are human beings, and there must be a way (however tortuous) to send them a suggestion (even if the suggestion ends up in the trash immediately after having been read)...

The point is that, if everybody in that Superman project had been absolutely happy about everything, then that film would have been out probably a year ago, and I wouldn't have even thought of felt of making a suggestion. But, as it stands, right now, clearly lots of people think that they haven't yet found the right combinations, which means that, in a way, anything goes...

And it just happens that I *believe* I had quite an interesting idea. But, regardless of whether my idea is truly interesting or not (and that wouldn't be for me to judge, anyway), I am 100% certain that it's not an idea that the casting gang will have had. (After all, there are 300 million people in North America; there is no way that any casting crew could be aware of all the potentially great candidates for any given role.)

So again, is there anyone I could ask who would have an idea how to go about this? (I'm happy to exchange info by email, if that's more appropriate than on this board...)

[D.K.HOOD]

I had a really dumb idea but it sounded too much like that movie Eddie Murphy and Steve Martin were in.

[Búrzdúsh]

Victor Webster is a new Superman!!!
dont more speak...

[jj]

Perry White - Dennis Franz

Superman - johnathon schaech, eddie cibrian, ivan sergei, paul sattersfield

lois lane - natalie portman, julia stiles, jessica alba, kim delaney

jimmy olsen - rodney scott

lex luthor - bruce willis, sean connery, john travolta

[imported_Angelus]

Someone suggessted that Billy Zane would make a good Lex Luthor, but after watching The Phantom and Invincible (which is a poor film other than for Zane) I would think that he would make a good Superman. He's got a reasonable build, and he has the right balance of humour and grit to do the job.
I don't know if anyone else agrees, but think about it.

[Evil_Kin-slayer]

Hey, Búrzdúsh It has reason... Victor Webster is the best candidate for Superman... he has the stature (7'4"), the color of eyes (blues), the faction of the face... etc...

[FireStormTrooper]

Reeealllyyyy ... Victor Webster is Seven Foot Four Inches tall, huh? Then, he must be a frickin' giant, way too tall to play Superman.

I trust that was a typo.

[Frostbite]

Yeah, Evil_Kin-slayer has the dreaded Adding-One disease. Webster is 6'3".

[Evil_Kin-slayer]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frostbite:
Yeah, Evil_Kin-slayer has the dreaded Adding-One disease. Webster is 6'3".<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

UPS!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif
Sorry, when was writing the stature, it presses between the 6 and the 7... and win the seven.