Smallville!!

[D.K.HOOD]

Tonights episode was pretty good, not great, but good. I was moreI'm not don't think it was all that clever to play R.E.M. songs just because the episode was about sleeping, but that's just my opinion.

[Zac]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
I was moreI'm not don't think it was all that clever to play R.E.M. songs just because the episode was about sleeping, but that's just my opinion. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agreee, kinda. the REM was a bit overdone, but I think a lot of the songs fit the mood perfectly, unlike some of the stuff they usually play on Smallville.

Anyways, I dug this episode. I loved how in the begining, things just got weirder and weirder. The best part was Pete's over-reaction to Clark failing the class.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
Anyways, I dug this episode. I loved how in the begining, things just got weirder and weirder. The best part was Pete's over-reaction to Clark failing the class.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, there are a couple of reasons why I think this episode was only good and not great. Reason 1 being cheesy looking Grim Reaper, which looked like a black prop covered in a red cloak with somebody hiding underneath to provide the arms. The second reason is that every fight scene now has been reduced to a stuntman getting literally tossed around like a dummy. Its 2003 and they're still using the same trick that was being done on The 6 mil Dollar Man, Wonder Woman, Bionic Woman and The Incredible Hulk.

[Kwick22a]

I came to a conclusion today. Lionel isn't really evil, he's possessed. He is the unwilling host of an evil parasitic organism that is masquerading as his hair.
He was infected years ago on the day of the meteor strikes. You may remember, when Lionel went out into the cornfield, looking for Lex, the first thing he found was a clump of hair. That hair was exposed to a massive dose of Kryptonite radiation which caused it to mutate and develop a primitive intelligence. When Lionel touched it, the organism, infiltrated his body and took up residence on his head where it could live unnoticed among all the other strands.
Over the years it has grown, and as it's size increases so does it's evil. Evil which is then filtered down into Lionel leading him to commit acts of evil that just get worse and worse.
The hair has had Lionel explore the science of cloning, and steal Clark's blood so that one day it can create a new host body. One with incredible power, but without a mind so that it will have total control. When the day comes when the parasite leaves Lionel for good and takes possession of it's new vessel then the world will no fear.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwick22a:
<B>I came to a conclusion today. Lionel isn't really evil, he's possessed. He is the unwilling host of an evil parasitic organism that is masquerading as his hair.
He was infected years ago on the day of the meteor strikes. You may remember, when Lionel went out into the cornfield, looking for Lex, the first thing he found was a clump of hair. That hair was exposed to a massive dose of Kryptonite radiation which caused it to mutate and develop a primitive intelligence. When Lionel touched it, the organism, infiltrated his body and took up residence on his head where it could live unnoticed among all the other strands.
Over the years it has grown, and as it's size increases so does it's evil. Evil which is then filtered down into Lionel leading him to commit acts of evil that just get worse and worse.
The hair has had Lionel explore the science of cloning, and steal Clark's blood so that one day it can create a new host body. One with incredible power, but without a mind so that it will have total control. When the day comes when the parasite leaves Lionel for good and takes possession of it's new vessel then the world will no fear.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Anything's better than Donald Trump's hair. And by letting his long mane grow Lionel is, once again, giving Lex a bitch-slap in the face.

[The_Vampire:Spider]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwick22a:
<B>I came to a conclusion today. Lionel isn't really evil, he's possessed. He is the unwilling host of an evil parasitic organism that is masquerading as his hair.
He was infected years ago on the day of the meteor strikes. You may remember, when Lionel went out into the cornfield, looking for Lex, the first thing he found was a clump of hair. That hair was exposed to a massive dose of Kryptonite radiation which caused it to mutate and develop a primitive intelligence. When Lionel touched it, the organism, infiltrated his body and took up residence on his head where it could live unnoticed among all the other strands.
Over the years it has grown, and as it's size increases so does it's evil. Evil which is then filtered down into Lionel leading him to commit acts of evil that just get worse and worse.
The hair has had Lionel explore the science of cloning, and steal Clark's blood so that one day it can create a new host body. One with incredible power, but without a mind so that it will have total control. When the day comes when the parasite leaves Lionel for good and takes possession of it's new vessel then the world will no fear.

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL I so believe it now all makes sense. First Lionels hair then the Mullets aired its spreading, we are not just dealing with one hair beast.

[Kwick22a]

Yes, it's sad but true. The Hairasites are spreading, reproducing, infecting an unsuspecting population. If left unchecked then within a decade at least twelve more people may fall victim to this dreaded affliction. Our only hope is that the ultimate anti-hair weapon, the Nair Bomb, can be developed before it's to late. But so far the project isn't going so well. Sure it removes hair just fine, but it also removes skin, muscle, bone and large chunks of landscape as well.
In the meantime everyone should look for warning signs of the invaders: Sudden excessive hair growth. Strange, possibly evil, behavior. and intense fear reactions to scissors and other hair removal paraphernalia.
At this point there isn't really much we can do other than be vigilant, and have our hair cut on a regular basis.
Good luck everyone.

On another note, I'm going to wait until I actually see the episode before making a judgement. But right now I'm having a little bit of trouble picturing "Lenny" as Perry White.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwick22a:
But right now I'm having a little bit of trouble picturing "Lenny" as Perry White. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm finding it difficult as well. The only way I find it easier to contemplate is to remind myself that Perry White from the movies used to be one of the "Our Gang" members. Plus "Lenny" was pretty funny in the movie Clue.

[The Xenos]

But communism was just a red herring.

-Xenos

[Zac]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
I'm finding it difficult as well.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me three. Though it will all be alright if Squiggy shows up as Jimmy or someone.

[The Xenos]

Wow. Tongiht's episode with Perry rather impressed me. I'd say it's one of the best so far. Plus Michael McKean did a damn fine job. Plus things we settled and devooped quite nicely. We also have Clark learning aobut his connection to the sun. Plus we see Lex going sligtly mad.

-Xenos

[Zac]

Tonight's episode was good, but not great. I didn't really find anything wrong with it, it just lacked 'zing'. Mike McKean did a great job as Perry. At first I was a bite skeptic about him, but he did a good job and I'd love to see him again in another episode down the line (maybe in a few years when/if Clark graduates to Metropolis?). Only 2 things were missing: "Great Caesar's Ghost!" and Squiggy.

Oh, and speaking of Perry's catchphrases, did everyone catch the "Don't call me chief!" line from the Sheriff to Perry? http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
Oh, and speaking of Perry's catchphrases, did everyone catch the "Don't call me chief!" line from the Sheriff to Perry? http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, that was funny and I agree with you that this episode did lack "zing", but that's something I've noticed in a lot of episodes since last season. Sometimes its the writing but most of the time I think its the direction.

I am glad that they broke the cycle of music promotion a little bit this week. Finally a touching moment of Lana and Clark together without some sappy group of the weak(meant to spell that way) playing in the background. Now if they can only stop doing 50 close up shots of the cast just looking at each other during an episode without saying anything. If I wanted to see that I'd watch a soap opera.

[BIGGS]

It was definitely awesome that Smallville brought in Perry White. They asked the question of why a kid from Smallville was able to get a job at the Planet working alongside the best reporter in the world..

[The Xenos]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
I am glad that they broke the cycle of music promotion a little bit this week. Finally a touching moment of Lana and Clark together without some sappy group of the weak(meant to spell that way) playing in the background. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen.

-Xenos

[Zac]

Holy crap. This episode flat-out sucked. I'm not sure there was anything I liked about it. It had awesome potential but damn, what happened?

"Lana, you look just like your great-aunt!"/"Clark, you look just like the drifter!" -- I HATE it when TV shows/movies have main characters playing their ancestors who looked just like them. Like Marty McFly's 1885 family (not to mention him playing both of his kids). It wouldn't have been TOO hard to just cast some lookalikes with talent, would it? I guess this means if we ever see Jor-El again, it will be Tom Welling playing him. Corny.

[Frostbite]

The guy playing Hiram Kent wasn't John Schneider, was it? It certainly looked like him, though. Bravo to the casting director.

[D.K.HOOD]

I'm just about through with watching Smallville. I hope they give Lex a spin-off show the same way Angel got a spin-off from Buffy, because they've just about ruined Clark Kent's history for me. Yeah I've suspected since the caves were introduced last season that Jor-El visited Earth before, but this has gone too far. And I agree with everything Zac said about this episode. It was corny and it sucked.

[Frostbite]

Once again, I happen to disagree with everyone. And accidently this time, too.

[Zac]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frostbite:
The guy playing Hiram Kent wasn't John Schneider, was it? It certainly looked like him, though. Bravo to the casting director.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, wasn't Schneider. Frankly, I think the only good thing about this episode was the 1961 casting (aside from Louise and Joe/Jor-El). Laughlin Luthor was good, so was Lana's Uncle, heck, even the Sheriff (who I think looked something like Crispin Glover, anyone agree?).

I think the concept for this episode was pretty good, it just wasn't done justice. If I had written it, it would've gone like this:

At school, in history class, the teacher assigns a 'family research' project where the students have to interview their oldest living relative. Lana, being the poor, family-less girl she is, panics. However, she recalls her great uncle who is serving a life term for murder of his wife. She locates him and it picks up basically where the show started, except she contacted him. So she gets Clark into the whole thing, like this episode, he sees the necklace, so on. So while digging through Lana's trunk, and stuff, he finds the necklace/journal. Upon first touch, he slips into that "Flashback" mode and sees everything up until after the stuff he saw when he put the pearl necklace on Lana (oh, and Jor-El is quite a bit older). Then we pick up with him telling Ma and Pa about everything, how he's sure it was Jor-El, etc. From there, the episode stays basically the same, except Louise and Jor-El never really "do" anything, just test the waters, though it's obvious she wants a bit more. In the end, Jor-El explains to her that he is from another place and has a girl back home waiting for him. He says that he came to town hoping to find a new home for his may soon come to an end (or some subtle hints at Krypton's descruction). The whole death thing happens (though the Luthers aren't in anyway involved, and he leaves the necklace on her. This ends the journal entry, but WE still get to see what happened.) and while Joe is running away he runs into Hiram. He stays with the Kents for a while (staying much longer than he did in the real episode).

Ugh, I need to go to bed. There may be some plot holes in there, but I may work them out later. Just my idea of how it could've been sooooo much better.

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
<B>Holy crap. This episode flat-out sucked. I'm not sure there was anything I liked about it. It had awesome potential but damn, what happened?

"Lana, you look just like your great-aunt!"/"Clark, you look just like the drifter!" -- I HATE it when TV shows/movies have main characters playing their ancestors who looked just like them. Like Marty McFly's 1885 family (not to mention him playing both of his kids). It wouldn't have been TOO hard to just cast some lookalikes with talent, would it? I guess this means if we ever see Jor-El again, it will be Tom Welling playing him. Corny.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I haven't seen the episode, but the only actor I can think of who actually looks like an older version of Tom Welling (if Jor El were to turn up again) is Christopher Reeve, and he's already played another character on the show. Of course, maybe they could make out that Jor El has taken up a human identity on earth and was crippled due to lethal exposure to Kryptonite. He also took up voice impersonations to sound like General Zod when he wanted to sound authoritative.

In all serious though, wouldn't have been better to have Reeve play Jor El? Just his facial image could've been used, as if some projection. That way, Welling's Clark Kent would actually look like a descendent of Jor El.


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Meoww! Send in the clowns!

[Zac]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B> I haven't seen the episode, but the only actor I can think of who actually looks like an older version of Tom Welling (if Jor El were to turn up again) is Christopher Reeve, and he's already played another character on the show. Of course, maybe they could make out that Jor El has taken up a human identity on earth and was crippled due to lethal exposure to Kryptonite. He also took up voice impersonations to sound like General Zod when he wanted to sound authoritative.

In all serious though, wouldn't have been better to have Reeve play Jor El? Just his facial image could've been used, as if some projection. That way, Welling's Clark Kent would actually look like a descendent of Jor El.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I kiiiiiind of see the resemblence, but I was suggesting perhaps a lesser-known actor. However, I'm sure there are some actors out there that bear a resemblence to Tom. I'll look into it later.

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zac:
I kiiiiiind of see the resemblence, but I was suggesting perhaps a lesser-known actor. However, I'm sure there are some actors out there that bear a resemblence to Tom. I'll look into it later.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well i'm not the only one who's seen a resemblance before. I think it's quite a common observation and has even been made by Reeve himself. But I don't think it's just a physical resemblance - the way Welling speaks and sometimes acts is reminiscent of the young Reeve. And if he's not doing that on purpose to try to conjure up images of Reeve but that it's his own natural style, then that means he is naturally similar.


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[D.K.HOOD]

I don't see that much of a resemblance really. They both have "superman-type" qualities but I wouldn't think they were related if I ever saw together without knowing who they are.

[FireStormTrooper]

I've heard that one of the paths that will lead to Clark hating Lex by the series' finale is that Lex will kill Chloe and Clark will know it but be unable to do anything about it. Makes sense, I guess. Chloe's a character created for the show and has no equivalent in the comic books. She's expendable in the grand scheme of things. STILL have no idea how they resolve Lex not knowing Clark is Superman when they grow up. Perhaps, selective amnesia?

[Frostbite]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FireStormTrooper:
I've heard that one of the paths that will lead to Clark hating Lex by the series' finale is that Lex will kill Chloe and Clark will know it but be unable to do anything about it. Makes sense, I guess. Chloe's a character created for the show and has no equivalent in the comic books. She's expendable in the grand scheme of things.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Erm... that'll all be changing soon; Chloe's going to be integrated into the comics by next year.

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frostbite:
Erm... that'll all be changing soon; Chloe's going to be integrated into the comics by next year.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And so she should be. Chloe can't be killed off. We protest! And besides, even if she is killed off, I hear that Kwick22a has a whole stock of Chloe clones in his basement just ripe for distribution as mail order brides.

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[This message has been edited by Welshcat (edited 11-12-2003).]

[D.K.HOOD]

I missed the first half hour because I was watching My Wife and Kids(funniest sitcom on tv IMO). Judging from what I saw on Smallville there wasn't much that I missed. The previews for next week looked surprisingly good though. Lex has gotten exceedingly creepier this season so I'm hoping next week isn't just one of those episodes where everything is resolved by the end.

[The_Vampire:Spider]

I have to say I m getting more bored with this show every week. Its becoming less tales of a young super man and more standard WB teen Drama just with the added bonus of powers. Almost every week its some freak accident with the metor rocks, the only time the show is really grand is the few before the season end and the few to start off the season the whole middle always seems to follow the same story , something with the rocks, wall of weird, scooby doo investicating, clark uses powers and who ever is his opposer is written out so we wont question ever seeing them again but there is still the possibility of a return. Gahhh. On the brighter side, it must be getting closer to some ratings thing or the season end or break or some crap cause next week look like it might just have a good story to it Lex insane?? Lana hospitalized, Clark Secret exposed (yeah that will happen http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/rolleyes.gif they make it appear that way every previw)
Ok venting done.

[This message has been edited by The_Vampire:Spider (edited 11-13-2003).]

[Zac]

Last night's ep was just nothing special IMO. It masn't bad, but it wasn't anything special or new that we've seen before. We've seen Lana go bad, we've seen Meteor freaks that can control stuff with thier mind, etc.

And I think next week's looks really really cool.

[D.K.HOOD]

Gotta love that quote that Shawn Ashmore gave in that article on the front page.

Shawn Ashmore: "I was one of a few weekly villains that didn't get killed off..."

[Kwick22a]

They wouldn't dare kill Chloe off! Because they know if they did I would raise an army of "special" super clones and lay waste to Warner Brothers!

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B> And so she should be. Chloe can't be killed off. We protest! And besides, even if she is killed off, I hear that Kwick22a has a whole stock of Chloe clones in his basement just ripe for distribution as mail order brides.

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is true. I have the cloning and personality implantation process streamlined to the point where it only takes about a week to produce one. And since I have three cloning vats I can produce three Chlones a week.
Now the big problem is getting them from place to place. Currently I'm negotiations with a courier service that specializes in point to point teleportation.

As for the last episode, I finally got around to watching it this morning and to be honest the only thing I liked about it was the higher amount of Chloe. I'm pretty much sick of Lana and Clark's "relationship."
I'm pretty much sick of Lana, period. I'm at the point where I think the next time some psycho (mutant or otherwise) decides he (or she, there was that one time) wants to get themselves some Lang Tang and she can't see them for the evil things they are, then fine let them have her. After all who she dates is none of Clark's business. Funny how she always brings that up right before someone tries to kill or brainwash her.
And community service for being an accomplice to grand theft auto. BULL! Throw her overprivliged ass in the slammer for a few weeks. Remind her that actions have consequences.
OK, I'm done and I've got to get back to work.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwick22a:
<B> BULL! Throw her overprivliged ass in the slammer for a few weeks. Remind her that actions have consequences.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL. Just in time for sweeps they'll do a prison shower scene using Kristin Kreuk's body double.

Anyway, I mentioned an idea in a previous post but I'd like to know everyone else's thoughts on it. How would you like to see a Lex Luthor spinoff tv show? And I mean having one in the very near future and not waiting until the end of Smallville to do it. For me it would be a welcome treat seeing as how I mainly tune into Smallville just to see how Lex's destiny is panning out. Of course, Lex would leave Smallville for Metropolis permanently ala Angel going to L.A. at the end of Buffy's 3rd(?)season. This could really give Lex some lost time to become the power hungry businessman that we know he turns out to be. Maybe during this time he'll forget about Clark and Smallville, thus (hopefully) explaining why the hell he doesn't recognize who Superman is.

And here's the icing on the cake. Chloe can leave Smallville to co-star on Luthor(that should be the name for it). But before she leaves, Chloe can put Clark in charge of the school newspaper, thus ensuring his journalistic skills will be sharpened for the road ahead while he makes his journey into mild mannered reporterdom!!!!

C'mon, its just crazy enough to work.

[The Xenos]

A Lex Luthor series... it'd be cool... but I don't see it happening or being able to last if it did. Maybe we should just have more Lex and less Kryptonite villians. Plus more Lionel! They don't need to be a wanna be X-files. They got good characters, use them (and not rip off Dawson's Creek and wot not too).

Speakiung of X-Files, they still got Mark Snow on music? Why can't they have more of that and less crappy bands the WB is pimping! And gosh damn, I'll rant again, no more sining over the damn dialouge!

I'm trying to sellthis show to a friend who hates it and the WB. That doesn't help. Any clue how to sell this show or which eps to show to a cynical comic fan?

-Xenos

[Kwick22a]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B>I'm trying to sellthis show to a friend who hates it and the WB. That doesn't help. Any clue how to sell this show or which eps to show to a cynical comic fan?

-Xenos</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Rosetta. The Christopher Reeves episode, still the best one(my opinion) of the entire series so far. I don't think there was to much of the crap music in that one, plus they used the music from the movies.

As for a Lex Luthor show. I'd watch it, I think this Lex is interesting enough that he could carry a show. Plus it would nice to have an even more detailed history of his desent into evil.

[ModeMan]

I wouldn't watch a Lex Luthor show. Smallville has done a great adaptation of him and Michael Rosenbaum plays him to perfection, but I don't like episodes that are too filled with him. The scenes and diologue within them often come straight out of a soap opera. There're already about 20 daytime shows about devious, scheming, rich people who speak like they've uploaded a thesaurus into their brains.
Smallville is pretty much a Dawson's Creek, pretty teen soap opera, but it's got Superman in it. It's the only reason I watch. Lex and Lionel make it into a bit more of an adult soap. But a soap none the less. Clark is what makes the show watchable because he's the character that makes it a sci-fi superhero show. All the characters are entertaining, but without Clark the whole show would suck for me. I may as well watch the O.C.

[D.K.HOOD]

Well ModeMan, in my imagination a Luthor(or they could call it Metropolis) series would still have some sci-fi and adventure elements in it. There's always S.T.A.R. Labs and Intergang, and we could see LexCorp employees who we know turn out to be future Superman villains. We could also see Lex's bodyguard Mercy introduced. Plus think about the characters we've already seen on Smallville that would be in Metropolis like Maggie Sawyer and Perry White. With Lex and Chloe that's an entire cast right there. But in my vision there would be no Lionel because he's been killed off. That's why Lex goes to Metropolis permanently in the first place.

I also think Smallville would benefit from Lex leaving the show. They could actually start to develop other villains instead of the 'new guy who turns out to be a psycho/freak' every week. Pete would actually get some 'quality time' on air instead of the usual "hey Clark I'm here to help you because you're having a power crisis but I'll disappear as soon as you get back to normal" screentime.

[WC]

Well, a Luthor show wouldn't be bad, and Rosenbaum is likeable enough to be the main character and carry the show. But unlike Angel, where it shows Angel's attempt to atone for the sins of his past and his gradual assent towards becoming a good person, I'm not sure how a show could work which shows the main character's descent towards the dark side. Sure, it worked with Star Warts, but those are movies, and no-one cares about Hayden Christiansen anyway, because he is more wooden than Yoda's walking stick. But with a show like Luthor, it might not go down that well. I'd still watch it, especially if it had Chloe, but a wider audience might not be able to relate to it very well.

And they'd better get the spelling right, and not put out a show called Luther, otherwise people might think it's a show about the German Reformation and a monk named Martin Luther.

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[The Xenos]

Yeah, smallville does fell like a soap opera someimes. Then agian, I've always regarded many comics books to be like a male soap opera, especially stuff like X-men and DBZ.

Anyway, I rather like teh Lionel and Lex stuff. To me it's more Shakespearean than nighttime soap. Of course you gotta wonder what those two have in common as well.

As for Rosetta, that one sounds like a good idea to persuade my friend.

-Xenos

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
Well, a Luthor show wouldn't be bad, and Rosenbaum is likeable enough to be the main character and carry the show. But unlike Angel, where it shows Angel's attempt to atone for the sins of his past and his gradual assent towards becoming a good person, I'm not sure how a show could work which shows the main character's descent towards the dark side. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Eek. That's a damn good point. That would make Chloe's role infinitely more significant, as she would be the positive force for fans to cheer for. Hey, that sounds like an even better deal for Chloe fans so having the big star of the show as a bad guy might be even more appealing. Instead of the Star Wars comparison how about thinking of Luthor in a Hannibal Lecter situation. People love that character and he's as evil as it gets.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
Yeah, smallville does fell like a soap opera someimes. Then agian, I've always regarded many comics books to be like a male soap opera, especially stuff like X-men and DBZ.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
True.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B>Anyway, I rather like teh Lionel and Lex stuff. To me it's more Shakespearean than nighttime soap.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree 100%

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Xenos:
<B>As for Rosetta, that one sounds like a good idea to persuade my friend.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like a plan to me. I hope it comes together for ya.

[Zac]

Well tonight's episode was good. I'm sad that it's the last episode we'll get until January 6th, but I liked the way it ended. Johnny Cash's (RIP) song really worked well IMO.

[D.K.HOOD]

It was okay. The very beginning was cool but then it got very dull and predictable like most of the episodes this season. The episode did get better towards the end, especially when Lex was really losing it. That 3d car that was smashed looked about as fake as Pamela Anderson's boobs though.

[Zac]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
That 3d car that was smashed looked about as fake as Pamela Anderson's boobs though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed. And speakign of the car, won't somebody wonder what REALLY happened? Obviously they won't believe the Clark story, but there are no trees within the general vicinity with scraps and scratches that would come had the car hit it. That and considering it's sitting in the middle of the drive.

[ModeMan]

Well now. Some interesting stuff happened on this episode. I felt really bad for Lex.
This episode was full of revelation. Lionel really does love Lex. It's not an act. This was proven by the way Lionel cried while watching his son in the cell. Nobody was there for him to put on a show for. That was genuine. However, he is willing to go to extreme measures to protect himself even if it means harming his son. While Lionel does love Lex, he's still not even a decent human being.
Lex was drugged. That was a relief. However, he still does have deep emotional and psychological problems. That scene really broke me up where he started saying, "Shhh. Don't wake the baby." He really is a bit mad.
There were times watching the show that I really wanted them to toss what was left of continuity and just have Clark tell Lex about his powers. It seemed Lex really trusted Clark and did a lot gor him. He didn't deserve to be so left in the dark like that. But now we know Clark shouldn't. Lex saw Clark display his powers(to save his life yet again no less) and what did he do? Tell the first people he saw. Lex can't be trusted with Clark's secret at all.
Sad sad ending. Poor Lex. What a show. Poor Clark. This was yet another episode(last weeks as well) that pretty much comfirmed that Clark and Lana will not be together again. That's the way it looks to me anyway. Clark needs to hurry his butt to Metropolis so he can meet the real woman of his dreams.

[Sonic1002]

HA! Lex is a loon ^_^. That is so cool. I think they soulda thrown him in Arkham Asylum. That would have been a perfect way to introduce Bruce.
Did anyone else find it creepy when Lex was singing "Hush little baby..."?

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Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden of your failed and useless lives. But remember, as my plastic surgeon always said: if you gotta go, go with a smile.
-Joker

[norrinraad]

This final episode really was a little confusing. So Lex's phychosis is 70% drug related and 30% natural or something like that? Maybe the drugs just reinforced and strengthened the small part of his brain that is already delusional? Obviously he had something to do with the death of his infant brother so there's some serious guilt he's carrying around. I would like to see this explored further...

As for Lionel, it's okay to make your son (and everyone else) think he's nuts in order to protect yourself but he can't bring himself to kill Lex. Interesting...If Lex follows the destiny established by the comics it's easy to see where his code of morals come from...

[The Xenos]

holy crpa what a great ep. so here we see not only evil business man Lex luthor, but some of that maddness of the mad scientist luthor as well. excellent job.

actually i think i shall try to show rosetta and this one to my friend to get him to like thsi show if i can get him to watch two eps.

oh and did anyone else notice the blue bottles lex had in his study. was that tynant spring water... from wales? perhaps the real person behind this all is not lionelt, but a mysterious purple cat. huh?! huh?! i'm not crazy! it's a conspiracy1!1

wants to be sedated,
-Xenos

[Zac]

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