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Essex

06-20-2003, 11:25 PM

I am far too tired to actually write a review at the moment...but I enjoyed the hell out of this movie. It all just felt...cohesive to me. All the totally contrasting themes and moods blended effectively, all of it coming back to that one closed door, the crux that linked the Hulk to Bruce Banner. I loved the symbolism and the overall intelligence of the film.

It was a bold film, and usually it paid off, with a few exceptions. I had a few gripes with the split-panel story-telling in some cases, though in others it was a really excellent story-telling tool. There were many other bold directorial moves, with some often skewed story-telling moments, such as Hulk's plummet or the Hulk/David battle. All those moments were ones I really enjoyed.

The special effects were, of course, amazing. Even when Hulk looked less than real, I was enthralled by him and his movements. The Hulk Dogs fight stands out as being phenomenal, as well as the big final battle.

All in all, I'm not sure if the preceding was all too cogent...but I thoroughly enjoyed Hulk! I liked it more than Daredevil and much more than Spider-Man. X2 still reigns supreme in my eyes, though.

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Sticks

06-20-2003, 11:39 PM

Just put up my incredibly rambling, 1:30 in the morning, mind blown review...

I'm probably going to want to kill it in the morning... *heh*

pax

Mighty ISIS

06-21-2003, 12:18 AM

The local paper gave the Hulk the harshest review I have ever read. They said the movie should be called "Crouching Lummox, Hidden Oaf". They compared the Hulk to an 800 pound green computer generated gorilla. The reviewer said the plot was virtually non existant and the moview was too brooding. This comes from the same reviwer who loved Spiderman and X-men.

zombie_new_wave

06-21-2003, 12:42 AM

Could I get an opinion? I like this movie very much. I thought it really hit the tragedy aspect of the hulk rather than the overplyed super hero aspect in every other comic movie.

The creature still looked too cartoony, but could ignore it becasue of the dark tone of the movie.

Spoiler!!!!!!!!!

Was that supposed to be Absrbing Man? If it was, then they kind of botched his past up worse than, well, a hulk that was geneticlly altered since birth.

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brokenstatue2001

06-21-2003, 02:46 AM

to the dude before me, yeah i think it was.
i thought the movie was good. i mean very good. but most scenes were breath-taking, and that is any scene featuring the jade giant. sure it was kinda slow at the beginning but it picked up and i loved it. the actors gave great performances, including hulk.
and when i mean breath-taking, i mean i stopped all bodily functions, i stopped breathing, my heart stopped beating, actually i think i died a total of 7 or 8 times in the movie. cool, huh? by the way, god said "hey".

mallratX2

06-21-2003, 07:39 AM

i loved it, it was everything i thought and wanted it to be and more, the only bad thing was I DIDNT GET TO SEE MY PUNISHER TEASER IN THE THEATER, but the movie itself was anything but disappointing, i loved it.

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imported_Thom

06-21-2003, 09:01 AM

Hmm... I guess I'd better get on Smart-Popcorn.com today and write my review. I don't think I saw the same movie everyone else here did. Some parts were great, yeah, but they were scattered among a lot of mess. That pretty much describes how I feel about every aspect of the movie: acting, direction, special effects, et al.

Not a stinker, but it falls behind all of the other recent Marvel movies. Even Daredevil, even excluding my bias for liking DD as a character better than Hulk.

Soccerdude

06-21-2003, 10:05 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mighty ISIS:
The local paper gave the Hulk the harshest review I have ever read. They said the movie should be called "Crouching Lummox, Hidden Oaf". They compared the Hulk to an 800 pound green computer generated gorilla. The reviewer said the plot was virtually non existant and the moview was too brooding. This comes from the same reviwer who loved Spiderman and X-men.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yo,Might!

sounds like bling bling works for this paper,dudn't it,ya'll?!?!

how could u not like the film?it was cool.bling was too harsh,too soon.

imported_StormShadow

06-21-2003, 02:44 PM

I must say I really liked this movie...untill about the last 15 minutes. The entire David/Hulk fight seemed forced and really made no sense by the end. I was really impressed by the Hulk's appearance, especially in the before mentioned dog fight. The other person who I think deserves a lot of credit was Nick Nolte as David Banner, he was simply excellent. And for an all around pretty good movie I must say the highlight of it for me was the Hulk punching the dog in the nuts....poetry. Overall much much better than the over rated Spiderman and in my opinion a slight step down from X2 and Daredevil. Just can't wait to see the Punisher.

Essex

06-21-2003, 02:59 PM

Just curious, why did you feel the final battle was forced? It seemed to make perfect sense for David Banner, who's agenda all came to a head there. He wanted the Hulk's energy and he was going to have to fight the beast for it.

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Soccerdude

06-21-2003, 06:07 PM

hi i'm just testing out something...my name isn't clearing with GENERAL DISCUSSION i haven't got a notice saying i've been banned.

Chambie

06-21-2003, 07:58 PM

Essex - Here is why the last scene is forced, and by the way you can also read my review on the subject.

Throughout the picture David Banner showed true feelings and love for his son, and sorrow about what he did. A couple of examples of this are at the beginning he was feverishly working for a cure for his son, and also showed true comapssion and remorse during the first transformation.

I know he tried to kill Bruce when he was a baby, but to try to do it as an adult would have been pointless. What was he trying to achieve, ultimate power, to protect the world from the Hulk by taking his power, to save Bruce from a life of torment, BS. Also the whole David being the Asorbing Man bit was a bit to much. Ultimately leading to what seemed to be a typical Hollywood ending to me. IE FORCED!!

Sticks

06-21-2003, 08:16 PM

I agree that david did show love for his son... but he considered the hulk his son... not Bruce... thus, the fight at the end.

I also liked that they used an existing character, the Absorbing Man, in the movie, rather than make up sone character FOR the movie. Yeah, I know that Bruce's Dad wasn't Crusher Creel, but isn't it better that they went to the book for someone, rather than just arbitrarily giving him powers?

So often, they do that in Marvel stuff. Look at Spike in "Evolution", or Morph in the old one... or all the new mutants in X2. Who the heck was "KidRemote"? Y'know? Why not spike his hair up, put some circuitry on his face and make him Warlock? And... well... H.E.R.B.I.E... need I say more?

That's all I'm saying... at least when it strayed from the source material, i did so with an eye on it... and I for one appreciate that...

pax

imported_Thom

06-21-2003, 08:39 PM

Actually, I agree that the whole ending between David and Bruce seemed forced. Regardless of whatever David's shifty, inconsistent motives were, or how much Betsy begged her daddy for help... There would be NO WAY in the world the U.S. Military would allow Bruce to sit down with a man who could so easily provoke another Hulk incident.

Andron

06-21-2003, 09:26 PM

WWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!! AMAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIINNGG!!!!!!
Rememberwhenhewasjumpingandallthehelicopterswerech asinghim? (deep breath) That was sooooooo cool! I want a sequal with either Leader (didn't his partner have a mustache?) or abomination!

imported_Thom

06-22-2003, 02:54 AM

I've got my full review up at Smart-Popcorn.com. Hulk fans, please don't bludgeon me to shit with big rocks!
http://www.smart-popcorn.com/disp_review.php?r_id=159

brokenstatue2001

06-22-2003, 03:25 AM

I WILL BLUDGEON THE HOLY SHIT OUT OF YOU WITH SAID BIG ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/tongue.gif

Stygian

06-22-2003, 12:05 PM

This is in continuation of my review in fanviews.

***Minor spoilers ahead***

I believe he could have done the science montage with Bruce's dad Dr. David Banner in the beginning title sequence like he did; and then pretty much jumped right to the lab scenes with Dr. Bruce Ken(whatever his foster name was.) and Major Glen Talbot getting in each others face. Then showing Bruce maintaining control and his relationship problems with Betsy, heck even a cameo of the Janitor would have been okay. But then they should have jumped right to the accident where Bruce saves the guy from the Gamma exposure. You can fill the rest of that story in with action.

I think when your writing a script for a comic you have to think twice as hard on how to make the story work with action instead of dialog. They did okay, but could have done even better. The stuff with Betsy and her dad was not needed until after the Hulk was around. The junk about Thunderbolt Ross and the desire to keep the project out of Talbot’s hands was drug out too far. I had the idea with the first scene they talked about it in, and he kept throwing it back up over and over again. Bruce's childhood repressed memories and his dreams were okay, but they too could have been after the accident to get us to the action faster. It might have been even more interesting if when Bruce wakes up from being the Hulk he only remembers the dreams he had repressed of his childhood. You know like while the Hulk is out, Bruce is in subconscious mode or R.E.M. dream time.

These are my two cents, and just a few thoughts. But I really did enjoy the movie otherwise.

I'd give it a seven & a half out of ten.

Stygian

06-22-2003, 12:07 PM

Also I forgot to say here, those comic panel transitions were the worst. I kept getting taken out of the movie by how annoying it was to have that much junk on the screne at once. Ang shouldn't have done that.

Relic

06-22-2003, 01:52 PM

MINOR SPOILERS:

I liked it. I admit, it was SLOW in the beginning. But it probably needed to be. Getting everything setup, needs to take time. Sure, they could have sped it up a notch (maybe two?...three?...four?...ok, you get my point), but this is from the guy who made CTHD (a movie I just find boring anyways).

As for the split panels...never bothered me. WHAT DID BOTHER me was the scene inwhich Talbot hit's the Hulk with the grenade, and it bounces off hulk into the wall behind Talbot. Then blows up, and it oes this really CRAPPY CGI shot. Oh my god, did that SUCK. That little scene right there, is probably the most troubling scene I had with the whole movie.

Forget the comicy credits, that just SUCKED! It was the suckiest, suck that ever did suck! It sucked that much!

Did I mention how much I thought that one little scene that lasted all of what 3-5 second SUCKED???

Ok moving on...(that scene sucked)...the rest of the film was good. The action was good. I don't see what people were expecting from this film. Hell, from what I little I read of the Hulk movie, and saw of the trailers, I was surprised to see David Banner get those powers. Just wasn't expecting it. I thought it was going to be the Hulk vs the military.

So in the end I give the movie a 7 and leave you with this...THAT SCENE SUCKED!!! WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THEY EDIT! IT SUCKED!!! OH MY GOD! DID IT EVER SUCK!

Ok, I'm through...coughITSUCKEDcough...I swear.

Relic

PS: THE SCENE REALLY SUCKED!

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Soccerdude

06-23-2003, 02:17 PM

hey i wanna know:was bruce's father......

was he supposed to be absorbing man?i don't read alot of hulk;just wondering.

i think they should have made more use of his powers instead of him using his powers to absorb water.couldn't he have absorbed hulk or the big bomb @ the end??

Soccerdude

06-23-2003, 02:23 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by StormShadow:
Overall much much better than the over rated Spiderman.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

no.shadow,dude,that doesn't flow where i'm from.it's illegal to say that where i'm from.u don't ever,ever,ever say the hulk movie was better than spiderman.that is just wrong.(btw,i respect your opinion,no matter how wrong it is)

i held in my pee from the middle to the end of the credits.drowned that extra large coke,didn't i?i then had to wait for an awesomly long line @ the bathroom,so i ran behind the theatre and peeed in the bushes fdor 2minutes.DARN THAT'S A WEIRD MOVIE WHEN IT MAKES YOU HOLD YOUR PEE FOR THAT LONG!

Essex

06-23-2003, 03:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Soccerdude:
i think they should have made more use of his powers instead of him using his powers to absorb water.couldn't he have absorbed hulk or the big bomb @ the end??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Er....were you...watching the movie? That's what killed him.

BTW, IMO Hulk was leaps and bounds better than the over-rated Spider-Man. I actually cared about these characters, as opposed to the ones in Spider-Man, whom I wished would just shut up.

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imported_Robbo

06-23-2003, 04:46 PM

Someone should start a petition to have the Talbot freeze removed from the DVD of "The Hulk" and even from the prints of the film itself. I agree. It was the worst thing ever.

Not just the worst thing in "Hulk" or the worst thing in movies...really the worst thing in all the cosmos throughout all of time.

Andron

06-23-2003, 05:04 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Soccerdude:
hey i wanna know:was bruce's father......

was he supposed to be absorbing man?i don't read alot of hulk;just wondering.

i think they should have made more use of his powers instead of him using his powers to absorb water.couldn't he have absorbed hulk or the big bomb @ the end??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No. Crusher Creel was the absorbing man in the comics. In the comics hulks dad is brian Banner, not David Banner.

imported_Thom

06-23-2003, 08:34 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Essex:
BTW, IMO Hulk was leaps and bounds better than the over-rated Spider-Man. I actually cared about these characters, as opposed to the ones in Spider-Man, whom I wished would just shut up.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh good, I can find something positive to say about The Hulk. The characters WERE very easy to care for, even Banner at the points where I thought he was played a little too stiff. I'm probably in the minority, but I would've liked to see more of that and less of the "Hulk smash various machines, people, or animals" scenes. Especially when some of the characterization was sacrificed at the end for another supposedly climactic fight.

*sighs* "Stay positive, stay positive, stay positive..."

TheHeretic

06-23-2003, 09:08 PM

Spoilers ahead

seriously

I mean it

I thought the movie was terrible and have no intention of watching it again. I do find it funny though that the entire fan community was screaming over the Hulkdog scene and as it turned out it was the best action scene in the film. I didnt mind the long beginning as they were tellling a story, not just setting up a series of action scenes. Also, the Hulk was shrouded in darness long enough for our minds to adjust to seeing a big green monster in a real world setting so it wasnt as bad as I thought it would have been to watch the CGI. Thats about all the postives I have though.
First of all, the script was terrible. I did not need the whole "Bruce, my son Bruce" crap. Seriously, we get that hes your son, quit beating us over the head with the obvious. Second, it was a little upsetting that we all knew instantly that the dad killed the mom, yet it took Bruce 2 hours to remember it. It was handled well though and its only a small complaint. Whats not a small complaint though is that absolutely insulting freeze frame explosion behind Talbot. That is the single worst moment in major motion picture history. The comic type panels were very cool in some scenes, such as when the helicopter and miltary truck panels were merged into a full screen panel, but it destroyed the action scenes. When the Hulk broke free of the chamber he was in we wanted to see him trash stuff, not a small screen of Thunderbolts reaction and a another of a canister rolling or whatever. SHOW US THE HUGE GREEN MONSTER PLEASE. Also, the ending was terrible. It seems that every comic nook movie has a disappoimting final action scene and this one not only was way too brief and anticlimactic but was also confusing. So david can absorb the physical properties of what he touches right (and by the way, HE IS ABSORBING MAN, they changed the character for the film, get over it fanboys). Shouldnt David have become a big green muscle?? And since he and his son both had the same tests done to them, why doesnt Dave have the healing power that he needs? The gamma bomb at the end was just dull and it caused the film to end with a dud. Also, why did they make a point to let you know that the Hulk never killed anybody??? I know this may sound stupid, but I dont mind the concept of fictional army soldiers being killed by a giant monster, yet they turned the action scenes into A-Team episodes by pointing out that every single person lived through there various helicopter crashes and all. It was needless and killed the drama of the scenes. Overall I would rank this film far far below X2, Spidey and X1 and even below Daredevil which I did not like but found nothing overly insulting about it...DD simply wasnt any good while the Hulk was a travesty in many ways. Its a shame really

Soccerdude

06-24-2003, 09:31 AM

i think that hulk could have been better.How?i'll say l8r gotta get to work.i did care for betty ross and bruce banner in this movie ALMOST as much as i cared for aunt may and uncle ben in Spiderman.

D.K.HOOD

06-24-2003, 10:52 AM

Well, I doubt anybody was wondering but I haven't been to the theaters to see this movie yet. However, I have seen an unfinished version of the film that was leaked. "How unfinished?" you may ask, well there was actually a scene in it where the CG wasn't even textured. I'll go see the film sometime this week before I give a final rating, but right now I would only give this movie a 6 out of 10. But I have to say that Ang Lee has balls. Big Balls. Big Green "15 feet high" Balls! I'm not talking about the panels. Too much has been made over that. Its been done before in movies like "Creepshow" which was supposed to take the audience directly into a horror comic. No, what I admired most about what Lee did with the editing was in the first 11 minutes of the film. That was beautiful filmaking IMO and Danny Elfman's inspired score only made it better. I'm usually ragging on Elfman because too often I hear the same music from him in everything he does, but I love what he did with The Hulk. I'm 99% certain that Ang Lee had a profound influence on what direction the score should take and I give credit to Elfman for adapting.

Now for the gripes. After those first 11 minutes the movie goes way to slow. I honestly didn't see any chemistry between Bana and Connelly so whenever they were together the movie just stalled for me. They both did good jobs with their parts but I got bored almost everytime they were put into a scene together. Nolte carried the film and Elliot did a nice job as well. The "Ham Award" should be given out to the guy who played Talbot(gee I can't remember his name now, I wonder why?). He sucked. If your going to play a character that sucks then do a better job. I agree with everyone that the Talbot exploding scene should never have been put in the film. That was awful and Ang should hang his head in shame for that one. I can't really comment on the Hulk dog fight scene until I see it in the theaters because I wasn't impressed by what was in the bootleg. Now the Hulk vs. Military was great stuff. I only had a small gripe with the way he ran in those scenes but the jumping was incredible. I only wish that scene had lasted longer and some of the other boring scenes had been cut.

The Hulk/David Banner battle was too anti-climatic. I seriously hope there is a different version in the theater, but from what I've read it isn't. And finally, I had a big problem with how the movie ended. I'm praying that was an alternate ending because that was the corniest thing I've seen in C2F history.

Stygian

06-24-2003, 02:37 PM

Guys, I may be wrong, but I don't think that David Banner was meant to be The Absorbingman per say. I think they barrowed ideas from the character, but to the best of my memory Crusher Creel could not absorb the properties of liquid or energy only solids. Also he never melded with the objects. I think Ang created his own villian for the climatic battle that everyone hates.

Also I wanted to ad here that I asgree with everyone who has said they should have allowed "Hulk kill puny soldiers". Although I did get a laugh out of the way Talbot was beat half to death.

TheHeretic

06-25-2003, 01:52 AM

I just remembered that I liked how they used boxers instead of pants. Pants would have looked really stupid

I also just remembered that after being very excited to hear the debut song from Velvet Revolver (the new band featuring most of what was Guns N Roses with Scott from Stone Temple Pilots singing)I hated the song and didnt stick around to hear it all. Thats not a slam on the movie in particular, just an observation.

D.K.HOOD

06-25-2003, 02:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by TheHeretic:
I also just remembered that after being very excited to hear the debut song from Velvet Revolver (the new band featuring most of what was Guns N Roses with Scott from Stone Temple Pilots singing)I hated the song and didnt stick around to hear it all. Thats not a slam on the movie in particular, just an observation.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That song sucks ass. I cringe everytime I hear it.

The Xenos

06-29-2003, 02:53 AM

saw it tonight. late tongiht. tight now the page is a bit wonkey, so I'll post to see if it gets better, then write a review now or finish it tomorrow.

Over all i was happy. Ending was a bit odd. And I was totally fine with the panels, though they could ahve toned it down a bit or not as much, though maybe i got used to it since i'm a 24 fanboy.more later..

-Xenos

D.K.HOOD

06-29-2003, 03:41 PM

I finally got to see this movie in the theaters after being delayed numerous times from circumstances beyond my control. I think each of those circumstances was God trying to send me a message. Arrgh, Hulk movie not worth price of admission!

First off, I take back any good thing I ever said about Danny Elfman's score because apparently its not the same as the one on bootleg Hulk movie. The only part of it that is the same is the opening credit music. Now I know why everybody kept saying how boring the first hour is, its because Danny Elman sucks! Universal SUCKS for firing the guy who was originally doing the score! Ang Lee SUCKS for caving in to Danny Elfman! ARRGGH!!! If you haven't seen the bootleg, download it or obtain a copy. I don't give a damn what the government thinks and its full of shit for prosecuting the guy who distributed the copy. I, for one, thank him for doing so. You cannot imagine how much of a difference the musical score makes. In the bootleg there's much more variety of music. There's some technotronic(I guess that's the term), electric guitar, drum beats and some stuff that sounds like aboriginal tribal music. Like I said, it makes a big difference (IMO) and I got so pissed that the score wasn't in the finished movie I almost walked out. I believe Ang Lee intended to use the score as a heartbeat for the film and for some reason it was cut right out of the film and replaced with a pacemaker.

Onto the Special effects. I thought they were great although they could have done a much better job for the Hulk's motions. What is it with CGI and that "herky-jerky" animation that the special effects guys keep doing? But those complaints are mainly about body movement. The facial expressions are the best special effects in the film. If they make a sequel then I would recommend more close-ups of the Hulk.

Since there was very little that was improved upon from the unfinished version (other than some added textures and lighting), and the musical score was downgraded considerably, I can only give Hulk a 5 out of 10.

ArkRaider

06-30-2003, 11:41 PM

Great film overall. The early set-up and the way in which Bruce Banner becomes the Hulk was unique and yet faithful to the source material. This is the best origin superhero film I've seen since the first Superman. The scenes with the Hulk were great and the only complaint I could have is that there was not more of the Hulk. But the story made the characters interesting and the cast was top-notch. Ang Lee's direction was innovative and yet paid homage to the comics. The cgi Hulk had some problems and looked great closeup, but I strangely didn't mind. Bana did a great job as Bruce and Connelly basically reprised her role from A Beautiful Mind only she was an actual hands-on scientist (plus she's great eye candy). Sam Elliot was perfecto for Gen. Ross and Nick Nolte made a great elder Banner/Absorbing Man.
Anybody else notice how similar the beginning of the movie seemed kind of like the beginning of the first X-Men with the molecule journey? The score seemed okay to me, but the suggestion I've heard on this board regarding John Williams does sound like it would have been cool, but this is a minor problem for me, if even that. Can't wait for a sequel with all of the makers and actors back, please!

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knack

07-19-2003, 01:08 PM

I loved this film. I was a tad worried because of some of the criticisms I've read of it but maybe that low expectation worked to my benefit.
Maybe some people went in not knowing how this film was going to be, expecting thrills and spills that would slot in next to X2. But Ang Lee as director should have been the clue for most.
I for one wasn't bored at any point during the film. the plotting and pacing made sense to me. it would have been foolish, in my opinion to get to the appearance of the Hulk quickly. I think Lee was trying to go for a slow boil. I was told in various reviews that it would be an hour before the Hulk showed up so I was expecting to be shifting around in my seat a little, but I found the film just interesting to look at. The split screens and the dissolves from one scene to another and even within scenes were just brilliant. The imagery I loved to and I think I'm going to get a kick out of repeat viewings.
I thought it was quite literate in places and to me this is the film I thought Hulk should be if it wanted to be more than just any old dumb summer blockbuster.
Nolte wasn't as over the top as I thought he was going to be. He was deranged without being a cartoon villain and he was the best.
I liked Jennifer Connelly and Sam Elliott. Elliott actually made Thunderbolt Ross rather sympathetic.
Bana was good, although at times it was like looking at Liam Neeson in Darkman.
As for the Hulk, it was nice seeing him tossing tanks around but he was more effective at night like during the dogfight or when the lighting is more subdued. At times Hulk moved too fast where more lumbering, realistic movements might have compensated for the look of the CGI.
I've had to pre-warn people who want to take their kiddies tos see the big green monster not to bother though. I liked watching a film about father/son, father/daughter relationships and repression of emotions and memories that turns into a big budget monster movie an hour in but they might be a tad bored.