I think a different director will do the next Hulk film...

[JohnJones]

Why do I think this? Well, Ang Lee was reportedly not happy with the fact that Universal fired the music composer who originally was going to score the movie (Mychael Dana) and brought in Danny Elfman to do it. It was also a very difficult movie to do because of all the effects shots that they had to do. It was something Ang got into through the course of the production and he found working with ILM to be a pleasure. But I think for him, one movie was enough. They will get someone else to do the sequal, and I think it will be different screenwriter who will pen the script for it. I think the second Hulk movie will be quite different from the first and will look more like it's being set in the Marvel Universe....

[Andron]

I disagree, I really liked this film, and I wouldn't want the segual to be very different.

[JohnJones]

Well if they have the Leader and the Abomination in it, it will be very different already.

[TheHeretic]

Ang Lee has made statements that seemed less than excited about doing another Hulk film, and the generally bad reviews wont help the cause of keeping him on board.

Personally I dont even care if their is a Hulk 2. Id much rather see new C2Fs rather than sequels to bad movies like Daredevil and Hulk, neither of which seems to get moviegoers very excited. If every Marvel film becomes a franchise then the casual movie fan will tire of the genre very quickly and the trend will die completely. I say dont do sequels for DD and Hulk and instead try your luck with The Punisher and something like Captain America instead.

[JohnJones]

Avi Arad has already announced that there will be sequals to both Daredevil and the Hulk...and as for having too many comic to films out there at theaters,some would argue that you can never have too much of a good thing, and given current world events, making movies like this are now more important then ever. We want escapisism.

[Soccerdude]

i just want more action and more hulk itself.have grey hulk in there fighting abomination and i'm good.i did not feel that hulk needs a sequel,but i am a fan for abomination and Mr.fixit.hopefully they will place Mr.Fixit in Hulk2.(or the direct to video Hulk 3)

[JohnJones]

Oh I hope they never do a direct to video Hulk movie....I don't know about a thrid Hulk movie, they may only do two movies.

[TheHeretic]

AS difficult as it may be to believe, the general public doesnt give a darn about comics. XMen got them slightly interested and then Spidey blew the doors open and the public wanted more more more. What they got was Daredevil, a film that was a disappointment to most casual moviegoers. X2 lit the fire again, but Hulk is really turning people off. And its not just for this movie...these things run in trends and when the public has their fill of comic movies itll be curtains for almost the entire genre. A huge portion of the population, especially women are tiring of the superhero trend, so to avoid a complete downturn in business I really think Marvel should take a cautious approach of 1 Mega event such as Captain America and one under the radar film about a lesser known character like Punisher. I would be smart about sequels and not do any based on properties that disappointed most viewers and crawled their way to 100 million. It doesnt look like thats going to happen though as there are not one but 2 Daredevil sequels being made (thats just ridiculous and both DD2 and Elektra will tank), Spidey 2 and X3 are warranted and well more than likely get Hulk 2. Marvel will probably turn several more properties into films by then and the entire trend will be dead sooner than we all would like.

[JohnJones]

That's not entirely true...the general public is aware of comics, and there are certainly large attentence at the Comics Cons at San Dieago and the one in Chicago...so there is more then enough evidence that the public is aware of comics and would go to see a film on the characters if was made well enough....And if the movie reviews were more balanced, you would see that the Hulk has actually gotten more possitive reviews then most newspapers and internet outlets would have you belive. Of course with such rampant negative reviews going around the web, it's amazing that movies still do as much business as they do.
It makes no sense to bash a movie, months before it's ever released. Yet that's what chatrooms do all the time...That's not progress...It's just plain stupid.

[Bigkid]

I, personally, really enjoyed this flick, I got a royal kick out of it.. I liked the fact that they stuck with the earlier conflict of the Hulk battling the military, for the first few months/years of his existence that is what he was up against, plus the inclusion of the whole "Father/Son drama" was good enough for me. I hope they do a sequal, but I hope they have the good idea to make sure that they do the same thing that they did in this flick: make sure that they develop the storyline before letting the big guy "out of the box", and go haywire with the CGI. I like that they took their time in developing the plot and characters.

[brokenstatue2001]

ok
it's spelled S-E-Q-U-E-L
thank you
sorry but commonly misspelled words kind of a pet peeve of mine

[TheHeretic]

Im sorry, but despite the large crowds at some comic conventions, the general public really isnt into comics at all. For instance, Im the guy whos talking to everybody in line before the movie and before seeing XMen a rather large percentage of people in line when I went were not even aware that there even was a comic by that name. Those that did either had never read it or (in the guys cases) had stopped reading it as a teenager. People like big action event movies, and they want to go see the new hot films or whatever, but dont mistake that for any mainstream love of comics. Otherwise I wouldnt be the only person in my neighborhood who owns a single comic.

[ArkRaider]

Frankly, I think it would bode ill for the Hulk without Ang Lee. He did a great job in making a film that was a great allegory about the inner struggles of man and the Hulk's battles were really cool and riveting. The film was done well b/c a director of Ang Lee's caliber was brought in to do it. Without him, I fear the next Hulk will be smashed to a pulp next time around as the critics will pan it and the audiences won't go. If they can keep Ang and get a script with more Hulk scenes, then I think the sequel could be even better than the first film, which I think was just spectacular and up there with X2.

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[platnumonk]

I concur. He got great performances from Nolte & Eliot, conveyed the love story + complexities of the relationship. The soundtrack was different for Elfman, but a different composer would have been better. It's no fun for the director when he/she does not get his way. It was simply a 'good' film. No need to milk this one too. Let the Hulk return to TV. Ang is too good to do another one.

[JohnJones]

No, No, No. The Hulk was ment for the big screen. This movie has proved that beyound any doubt. The worse thing you could do to a comic book is turn it into a lame weekly Tv show where they give you a watered down version of it, and they change the guy's first name and all that. No. No more TV for the Hulk.

[Jel]

Amen to that.

But yeah, Ang needs to be on the sequel, he really made the difference here. I'm afraid anyone else would make it look cheesy.

[mille1212]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jel:
<B>Amen to that.

But yeah, Ang needs to be on the sequel, he really made the difference here. I'm afraid anyone else would make it look cheesy.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess it would boil down to if you are an Ang Lee fan. I love the Hulk. And, I wanted very much to like this movie. And, I did like it. But, it could have and should have been so much better. I think he pulled off the hardest part. He hit a home run with the way the CGI Hulk came across on screen in every way. But, he flat out was a disappointment in telling the story. I felt the same way when watching Crouching Tiger/Hidden Dragon. Great special effects, but a strange movie. That's what he made the Hulk movie seem like. A strange movie. If you liked Ang's previous work, then you probably liked this movie. If you didn't, then you probably (like me) had to be disappointed with this movie in some degree. All in my own humble opinion of course.

I'm out!

[Jel]

Hey, I actually didn't even enjoy Crouching Tiger that much, I enjoyed the action scenes more than the drama in this one... But it was not the case for the Hulk, I for one didn't feel the pacing was slow, I was just carried by the nice flow the story had, from the great beginning (where added to the story, you get assloads of hints that the movie is going to kick ass: the green, starfish, crazy father, beautiful army base shots, split screens, etc.). And I actually was surprised when Banner changed into the Hulk for the first time, I thought it was pretty fast! but again, that could just be me. All I know is the people in the theater applauded at the end, and all sit through the credits.

About the strangeness, I thought this was what was so great about the movie an experimental/indie movie with a hundred million dollar budget! This is very unique if you ask me!

Cheers!

[Antpoc]

Guys, I just plain hated the Hulk movie. I don't know what the "Greek tragedy" was than Mr Lee kept on and on about in interviews but what was tragic was the lack of storytelling in his over-budgeted turkey.

The root of the problem, for me, was Lee's unfamiliarity with what the Hulk is and why it has endured for 40 odd years. He just didn't get it, and the result was a crap, crap film.

[norrinraad]

Actually, I thought Lee tapped into the psychological undertones of the character quite nicely. As for him being "unfamiliar" with the Hulk developed in the comics, Paul Jenkins was just one writer who often delved into Bruce's psyche and his unresolved issues with his father in the series. The whole concept of the Hulk has always been more complex than the simplicity of the brute himself would suggest, and thankfully we got a director who had the skills to tap into this and the balls not to back away from those issues. I shudder to think of how this film would have been had someone like Michael Bay or Joel Schumacher directed it. The whole movie would have been a two hour "Hulk Smash!" fest with no underlying themes for those of us who prefer a little more substance. Perhaps that's what some would have wanted but the film lived up to all my expectations personally. I really hope we get to see where Lee takes the character next.



[This message has been edited by norrinraad (edited 07-21-2003).]

[Antpoc]

Well, I get what you are saying in terms of there were atempts to get psychostuff in the movie, but it came across as flat. At least it did for me.

And, please, don't even joke about Joel 'Gay Nipples' Schmacher directing another comic book film! SOme of us like to sleep at night, y'know...

[Jel]

Antpoc: while I totally disagree with what you've said, I must confess that the "tragedic" bit of your post was very funny!

But Again, I'm totally with Norrinrad on this one, and i want to see Lee on the 2!

Cheers!

[Bigkid]

Just read some news today on this topic, but apparently at the San Diego Comic Con, a panel will be held with people from the new Marvel Studios, and at that panel, they will announce the director of the new Hulk film. Also on the panel will be Iron Man director, Jon Favreau, and the director of the upcoming Ant-Man film, Edgar Wright. Avi Arad &amp; Kevin Feige will also be on hand, but the real news is that they will, supposedly, announce who the new director will be. I'm glad about that......at least they've got THAT bit of detail in place! I'm looking forward to seeing who it is that they want to hand the reigns to on this one!

[Pod]

They're making a Ant-Man movie?! I still can't see how that can work with audiences because the guy is a bit wierd IMO. He can shrink, grow and control ants? I just don't fully understand how you can make a good movie out of it.

[easy D]

You didn't know they were making an Ant-Man film?

I brought that up like a month ago on the General Discussions thread. Either way, it's co-written and directed by Edgar Wright, who has also done Shaun of the Dead and the BBC sitcom, Spaced (very funny show, BTW). So, chances are that it might be a sci-fi/action/comedy.

[Pod]

I forget ya kno. I'm not big on Ant-Man (if that's a pun). And seeing that it's going to be a comedy makes me fear that it will turn into something like the recent FF movie. But this conversation should be in the Ant-Man thread...which doesn't seem to exist...anyways...

Hulk should get a retcon and have a sequel where Bruce is already Hulk and going about his ways. And it's nice to know that we're going to know more about this later.

:)

[WC]

There's some rumours going round that Eric Bana may consider doing the Hulk sequel depending on the script, timing etc, but that he doesn't think Jennifer Connelly will do it.

The question is, if Bana is on board, how are they going to do a &quot;do-over&quot; for the franchise with the same actor and perhaps even retell his origin again? :? :?: