Hulk 2 possible plots/casting

[yas3r]

It is unlikely eric bana will return, having not had the best of times on the first.

I must count myself as one of the few who likes what ang lee did. He tried something different, he could have easily made a smaller scale version of that terrible godzilla movie-all thin characters and big explosions.

Hulk had a unique style, had very comic-like editing and some great performances.

Where do you guys think they should go for the sequel?

More action orientated, or another deep study of a character who isnt hero or bad guy, but both?

[Znluvx]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yas3r:
More action orientated, or another deep study of a character who isnt hero or bad guy, but both?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Definitely more action!

Personally I think a sequal should go in the direction of being the ultimate monster movie.

I always saw the Hulk as a combination of Frankenstein-Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde-Wolfman/werewolf characters.

[yas3r]

Thinkin about it there is room for both. Im just not sure what kind of storyline they could go for.

Who would you fill the cast with, and who would the hulk be up against.

[Znluvx]

Well, continuing my idea of the ultimate moster movie...

the plot would involve the gov't back Hulkbusters (villagers with pitchforks), the Leader and Abomination (the mad scientist and his lackey assistant) in a hunt for the Hulk (the monster), who seeks the unconditional love of Betty (the beautiful peasant girl).

[bottleHeD]

Hulk being a kinda scary movie, that's a good idea.. I wouldn't want the sequel to be radically different, but i'd like to see a litle more action. Hulk vs Abomination, one on one.

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[yas3r]

That is a good idea, they could beef up the horror elements and definately the action.

But by doing that, it wouyld already be a huge step in the opposite direction from the original.

They should probably make the hulk at bit edgier, more primal and monstrous. I really liked the look of him, but i think that he needs to be a bit scarier, he just looked like a big green wrestler...no offence hulky.

If they cant get connelly-shannon elizabeth needs a chance to be a bit more than just a hottie. And for brucey- may i suggest someone like hugh darcy...someone a little more delicate looking to make a bigger contrast between the hulk and him.

[WC]

Well there haven't been any posts here for a while, so I thought I'd make one.

Any ideas who to get instead of Eric Bana, if he doesn't return (which doesn't seem likely)?

I'd like someone more along the lines of Bill Bixby - someone intelligent and expressive enough, not bland Bana.

Your thoughts?

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[Oldsoul3300]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B>Well there haven't been any posts here for a while, so I thought I'd make one.

Any ideas who to get instead of Eric Bana, if he doesn't return (which doesn't seem likely)?

I'd like someone more along the lines of Bill Bixby - someone intelligent and expressive enough, not bland Bana.

Your thoughts?

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It had been rumored awhile back that David Duchovny was going to replace Eric Bana. Though I don't think I ever heard another peep after that initial rumor.
I personally think Duchovny would be alright, but I loved Bana in the role.

[D.K.HOOD]

Steven Kolbert from The Daily Show bears an uncanny resemblance to the comics version of Bruce Banner, and he has done other work besides comedy. He was pretty good as a psycho genius on Law & Order:Criminal, so I think he could do justice to Bruce rather easily. So he would be my choice of re-casting for the movie.

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
Steven Kolbert from The Daily Show bears an uncanny resemblance to the comics version of Bruce Banner, and he has done other work besides comedy. He was pretty good as a psycho genius on Law & Order:Criminal, so I think he could do justice to Bruce rather easily. So he would be my choice of re-casting for the movie. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which one was he? Not the one who had this obsession with the No.5 and killed 15 people, was he? If so, I don't see he was like Banner.



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[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
<B> Which one was he? Not the one who had this obsession with the No.5 and killed 15 people, was he? If so, I don't see he was like Banner.
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Oops, I spelled his name wrong. Its Stephen Colbert. If you saw the episode you might remember the character was sort of a jack of all trades and extremely intelligent, with knowledge of chemistry and history and even taught himself how to do master forgeries to discredit this organization that was taking advantage of his mother(who was kind of mental). Heres a picture of Stephen Colbert (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/3030/Events/3030/StephenCol_Wargo_4839871_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Colbert,%20Stephen).

Oh, and on a sidenote, after looking at is other tv guest appearances on imdb.com it says he played Prof. Richard Impossible in that Fantastic Four spoof episode of the Venture Bros! Actually he's done quite a lot of voice work from the looks of it.

[WC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
<B> Oops, I spelled his name wrong. Its Stephen Colbert. If you saw the episode you might remember the character was sort of a jack of all trades and extremely intelligent, with knowledge of chemistry and history and even taught himself how to do master forgeries to discredit this organization that was taking advantage of his mother(who was kind of mental). Heres a picture of Stephen Colbert (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/3030/Events/3030/StephenCol_Wargo_4839871_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Colbert,%20Stephen).

Oh, and on a sidenote, after looking at is other tv guest appearances on imdb.com it says he played Prof. Richard Impossible in that Fantastic Four spoof episode of the Venture Bros! Actually he's done quite a lot of voice work from the looks of it.


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Ok, I was thinking of a different episode - the very intelligent criminal had asperger's syndrome but was obsessed (unknowingly) with the number 5. But he didn't look like that. I guess that photo does look like some version of Banner, but more the milksop nerd version than a Bill Bixby type version. I'm not sure audiences could relate to the milksop Banner but would need someone more heroic. If we could find another Bill Bixby type, that would be ideal.


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[brokenstatue2001]

Oh, I am familiar with Colbert and his work. Love him Harvey Birdman, he plays Birdman's rival and best buddy, Dr. Reducto. And, of course The Daily Show. And the Mr. Goodwrench commercials. So, it's kind of hard for me to imagine him as Bruce Banner. Especially if he takes over the part that Bana played so well. Duchovny would be pretty good, he seems he would more like the Bill Bixby Banner (say that 5 times fast), but he might be a little old for that part. What is he, like, pushing 40, or something? And can you imagine the Hulk with his nose?
As far as the sequel's story. Two words. HULK SMASH!! Come on. The best part of the entire film was when he was trashing those tanks in the desert. Bring in something that can bring it on to the Not-So-Jolly-Green Giant. Abomination. Ravage. Grey Hulk. Any one of those guys, come on.

[WC]

Anyone think Robert Downey Jr could seem like a Bill Bixby type? He could seem a more intelligent thinking man, especially if he wore glasses, and could bear some resemblance to Bixby. What do people think?

I personally wouldn't want Duchovny. But even if he did play, why does Hulk have to have the same nose? When did Hulk even look just like a large version of Banner in the comics? It's only in the movie that Ang Lee decided that Hulk should look so similar to Eric Bana. However, that Hulk doesn't always look quite monstrous enough.

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[D.K.HOOD]

I'm sticking with Colbert as my first choice. He would be more believable to me as "puny Banner" than Bana could ever be and Colbert's got an intelligence factor to him. I've seen him do drama and he was good, plus I think Banner should have a slightly odd sense of humour about him. But this is just my fantasy choice, because I know no movie studio would bank a Hulk sequel on him in the first place. Anyway brokenstatue, you shouldn't cast Colbert aside because of his comedy stuff because I know I've seen Bill Bixby in an Elvis movie and in Disney's The Apple Dumpling Gang, and that didn't stop him from being Banner.

[This message has been edited by D.K.HOOD (edited 05-03-2005).]

[brokenstatue2001]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
<B>I'm sticking with Colbert as my first choice. He would be more believable to me as "puny Banner" than Bana could ever be and Colbert's got an intelligence factor to him. I've seen him do drama and he was good, plus I think Banner should have a slightly odd sense of humour about him. But this is just my fantasy choice, because I know no movie studio would bank a Hulk sequel on him in the first place. Anyway brokenstatue, you shouldn't cast Colbert aside because of his comedy stuff because I know I've seen Bill Bixby in an Elvis movie and in Disney's The Apple Dumpling Gang, and that didn't stop him from being Banner.

[This message has been edited by D.K.HOOD (edited 05-03-2005).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, I didn't say anything about him not being able to play Banner because of his comedic background, I'm saying that I liked Bana as Banner too much to let someone like Colbert go ahead and do it.

[JonnyFreeze]

i thought eric bana said a sequel was in his contract. a read an interview with him a while ago saying he was contracted for a sequel

[fadexero]

I've been up a long time...I love my job, I do nothing but sit at the comp. Anyway. I like The Hulk Movie, very original, and different. It's why people hated it, that and Sam Elliot's Lop sided Mustache that constantly got my attention. I hated that mustache. Anyway. Bana was great. And you Got Merit with Colbert buddy.
As For Story line. Say ole Banner gets hunted while down in South America, because at beginning of movie, he's goes Hulk-Tastic on a Drug Lords operations, that'd be cool. Well, drug lord calls in a few favors, and favors beget favors, and so on, and so forth. In the end, there's Abomination who answers the call to go toe to toe with Jolly Green. All this while Sam Elliot is at barber getting stache trimmed....NEATLY!.
And Jennifer Connely is with me, god she's hot. Anywho. Abomination can't be only Villian, lately there's like 13 villians in Comic Book movies, so you have to add a couple more for Hulk-man. Say like...Kraven, I dunno if Kraven ever tried to Capture Hulk...but I don't see why not. And...The GIBBON!. lol, i love doing that. Have Like Kraven Hunting the Abomination, and he tracks him to...The HUlk...and he decides...2 for 1. I dunno. Lots of Action, Car being Tossed...Hero/Villian through several buildings...And an Actual Fight on an Airplane...that Would Rock...I would do it. Bunch of people on a Boeing 747, on flight from Atlanta to HELL! Abom jumps up, land on plane, Hulk follows, the swing a few times, Abom gets punched off, Hulk follows, lands on him, buirying Abom 20 feet into the earth. That's actually pretty nifty...I want this Copy writed.

[Znluvx]

Hulk 2' to go for rubber suit?
F/X guru Dennis Muren says 'Hulk 2' will look different than the first one. "I heard they're talking about doing a sequel with a guy in a suit, which is probably what they should have done the first time."

I liked the FULLY rendered CGI Hulk. I thought he looked great.

But maybe putting an athletic big man (6'10" and up) in a really GREAT looking suit could work. It would definitely keep the movie's price tag down.

[HumanTorch4life]

Hulk 2' to go for rubber suit?
F/X guru Dennis Muren says 'Hulk 2' will look different than the first one. "I heard they're talking about doing a sequel with a guy in a suit, which is probably what they should have done the first time."

I liked the FULLY rendered CGI Hulk. I thought he looked great.

But maybe putting an athletic big man (6'10" and up) in a really GREAT looking suit could work. It would definitely keep the movie's price tag down.

A guy walking in stilts of a giant green suit. Or if the costume looks shorter from the cgi look then maybe the story line will have a brief sentence saying "and after a year of working on fixing his transformation problem, the monster inside him got shorter and looks like rubber"

[Zac]

I think they should stay consistant and keep the Hulk CGI. Maybe I'm one of the few people who didn't care that the Hulk didn't look completely real, but I mean, come on, we KNOW he's not real anyways, if they throw a guy in a suit, the whole time it will just be "Hey, that that is obviously a guy in a suit."

What they should do is keep him CGI, just learn from their mistakes in the first one and don't have him in super-bright daylight very much, that will keep him a bit more believable.

[Bigkid]

It is unlikely eric bana will return, having not had the best of times on the first.

I must count myself as one of the few who likes what ang lee did. He tried something different, he could have easily made a smaller scale version of that terrible godzilla movie-all thin characters and big explosions.

Hulk had a unique style, had very comic-like editing and some great performances.

Where do you guys think they should go for the sequel?

More action orientated, or another deep study of a character who isnt hero or bad guy, but both?

YAS!
Oh, for sure, I don't think think that Bana will be back as Bruce Banner. I think his star has finally risen to the point of BIG time (there is a great buzz about his performance in "Munich"), so I don't know if he's going to be even AVAILABLE for the role.

And as for should it be more action oriented, as opposed to deep character study? I think that it can be a generous 50-50. Why not?

I DO believe, however, that the "Beauty &amp; the Beast" sort of thing SHOULD still be incorporated in.....like what we got recently, again, with the release of "King Kong." I think it could still work.

[Pod]

I think Yas3r is gone... :(

As for the casting, I think they're going to have to reboot the whole cast from the first film. Keep parts of the story but totally...totally...totally change the casting. Yeah... :cry:

[Bigkid]

Well, here's a casting rumor for us (I read it on the pages HERE):

David Duchovny of the X-Files is rumored to be leading the way to play Bruce Banner......however, it's ALSO been rumored that the film is going to be going straight to DVD! :shock:

Hmmmmm........wellll......that's really not as much of a shock as I thought it would be, to be honest..... I don't like the idea that it would go straight to DVD. That, in a way, sort of highlight's the thought that the film was a failure. I know that there are MANY people out here on these boards and in cyberland in general who feel that the film WAS a bomb.....but this is still a BIG TIME PROJECT, and I sort of think that if it goes straight to video or DVD, that's the perseption of WHY it went there.......that the first one was TOO much of a failure to warrant bringing it to the big screen again.

[DarrenJSeeley]

Former X-Files star David Duchovny is set to become the new Incredible Hulk after Aussie actor Eric Bana pulled out of the sequel project. Peter Cuneo, the vice chairman of comic book franchise Marvel, revealed Duchovny is the frontrunner to play the green giant in The Incredible Hulk 2 in a recent interview with AOL's Motley Fool Radio Team. He said, &quot;Duchovny's name has been bought up several times. He's quite the fan too.&quot; Bana pulled out of the sequel when he discovered the plan was to release the film direct to DVD. Cuneo insists there's still life in the Hulk project: &quot;Hulk did $250 million worldwide box office, which is a huge box office, and as you may recall, we had tremendous success with our toy line, which was a complete sell-out, over $100 million worldwide.&quot;

I got this off the news briefing off the IMDB, not from Knowles scooper.

In any case, there are two things said here that must be stressed:
1. Duchovny is one of the names being considered. Nothing more...but there may be other actors. His name is probably the bigger draw.

2. If Hulk did that much buisiness worldwide and with a toy line, why would Hulk 2 go right to DVD? If there is still 'life', there should not be a DVD series on the lines of the 'Bring It On's and the foruth 'American Pie'. Hulk should have done better- perhaps the masses expected something other what was given. Not a bad thing, I liked it, but why is the best part of the film just happens to be where the US Army hunts down The Hulk?

I don't think Bana turned the role down due to &quot;direct to DVD&quot; I think it is the other way around. With Ang Lee not intrested and getting accolades for 'Brokeback Mountain', Eric Bana a strong contender for 'Munich', and nt being able to work out any time windows for other actors...and not having a script ready..

I believe for Hulk 2 there was discussion about Grey Hulk; and due to the battle with The Father David, Hulk does not get as big as seen in the first film.

As for a man in a suit... it would not work Now, there could be forced perspective shots, or of Hulk fights Abombination or Hulk Rats (see Hulk #1- the rats were given the same formula as the dogs, but never seen again) y'know, something like that you could sell it.

Duchovny is a good actor, but in recent times it seems he only can poke fun at his best known character, Fox Mulder in films such as &quot;Evoultion&quot; (which was funny) and &quot;Zoolander&quot;. There is also that occasionsional whisper about X Files 2, as well. If Duchovny does take the part, I don't think it will go to DVD. There would be some budget for nice FX and the like; I mean, when Bana was hired, it was before Munich and Troy. With the possible exception of Chopper, no one ever heard of him before then.

Now, on the flip side.

Let's say worst case Hulk 2 does go right to DVD at least in the US. I would like the following helmers to be considered should this happen:

1) Vincent Natali (Cube and Cypher)

2) Neil Marshall (Dog Soldiers)

3) Micheal Lanteri (Komodo; also well known FX wizard)

Naw, heck with it folks.
Universal- go for theatrical whoever you get to helm and/or act.
Release the film whenever suits your fancy. Just do it.
Thanks.

[Pod]

I can believe the part about the sequel being a DTV movie, but the actor might not be that famous as David Duchovny. But still, this is just a rumor for now... :shock:

[DarrenJSeeley]

Seems my suspicions about Hulk 2 going DTV were right- it isn't.
Duchovny might just be a name tossed around for a supporting role, or maybe Universal planned Evolution 2 and got mixed up.

[Consay]

Well now Marvel are putting up the money for the sequel with Universal distributing, not sure whether Bana's contract still counts though.

[Pod]

Well now Marvel are putting up the money for the sequel with Universal distributing, not sure whether Bana's contract still counts though.

I don't see Hulk 2 happening anytime soon...It's just seems like there's no way to clean up the mess the first film left.

[shaneT]

Well now Marvel are putting up the money for the sequel with Universal distributing, not sure whether Bana's contract still counts though.

I don't see Hulk 2 happening anytime soon...It's just seems like there's no way to clean up the mess the first film left.

what mess?

it made them money.

and was a better film than most superhero films.

[Pod]

Well now Marvel are putting up the money for the sequel with Universal distributing, not sure whether Bana's contract still counts though.

I don't see Hulk 2 happening anytime soon...It's just seems like there's no way to clean up the mess the first film left.

what mess?

it made them money.

and was a better film than most superhero films.

Made money? Kinda. But better than other superhero films?!?!?! :? :shock: How?! F4 was better, even Son of the Mask was better! What superhero films are worse than Hulk?!

[Znluvx]

Well I for one LIKED the Hulk movie. Yes it has some faults, but as some have stated that F4 captured the &quot;fun&quot; factor of that title, the Hulk movie captured the pathos of the character.

So IMO it's better than:

Daredevil
Elektra
F4
Catwoman
LXG
Bulletproof Monk
Batman 3 &amp; 4
Superman 3 &amp; 4

[shaneT]

Hulk in in the top 5 best comic films ever made. It was much more than action. If you failed to see what this movie has to say, or the relevance then you missed the whole thing. It is layered with allusions of the everyday struggle of any man, and more relevant to today than any other superhero film. It's the Kerouac of superhero films. The best parts of the film are the bits where we don't even see the green monster. And the cinematography is unparalleled. The preformance was two hundred times better than I realized it was the first five times I saw it. And when I saw what Ang Lee did with the actors I was amazed. If you campare acting in most films from the fourties to current films you can see a step in the same direction towards reality.

[holipsism]

Hulk in in the top 5 best comic films ever made. It was much more than action. If you failed to see what this movie has to say, or the relevance then you missed the whole thing. It is layered with allusions of the everyday struggle of any man, and more relevant to today than any other superhero film. It's the Kerouac of superhero films. The best parts of the film are the bits where we don't even see the green monster. And the cinematography is unparalleled. The preformance was two hundred times better than I realized it was the first five times I saw it. And when I saw what Ang Lee did with the actors I was amazed. If you campare acting in most films from the fourties to current films you can see a step in the same direction towards reality.

in my opinion, strictly from a cinematic &amp; art perspective...it wasn't a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination. As a Hulk fan and a fan of the comic book...it just wasn't true to the character of the Hulk. Period.

Like most true comic book Hulk fans I HATED the Television series because, once again, it wasn't true to the comic book. I feel, if a director or a producer is going to do a character they must first know what the appeal of that character is and why people love it in the first place. This is where the first movie went wrong. The over-riding mindset of the film was focusing on Bruce Banner's repressed childhood and his relationship with his father. WRONG. Bruce Banner is not what made the Hulk an appealing comic. I don't know about anyone else, but I'll tell you what made the Hulk appeal to me.

When I was young the two characters I loved more than any thing in the world was Godzilla and the Hulk. As a child you are unsure of yourself, shy, insecure, etc. The polar opposite of these characteristics are Godzilla and The Hulk. I don't remember what issue of the Hulk this happened in but all I remember was Bruce Banner trying to crawl through a dirt tunnel to get away from this big giant scary monster looking dude and one of the captions had him screaming at the top of his lungs in terror as the monster grabbed him by his ankle and started to pull him out of the tunnel. The very next caption was the monster being knocked completely out of the tunnel and the hulk coming out of it enraged.

THAT, IN A NUTSHELL, IS WHAT THE APPEAL OF THE HULK IS ALL ABOUT.

If something was chasing Bruce because he was afraid, that same thing would be running and trying to get the hell away from The Hulk. What kid wouldn't that appeal to?

I consider myself a Hulk purist. I didn't like the Grey Hulk, I didn't like the Intelligent Bruce Banner Dominant Hulk. I loved the Savage Hulk. I loved the &quot;Hulk smash&quot; hulk. I never considered the Savage Hulk stupid or dumb. I always thought he was no nonsense and straight to the point. He was action oriented. He was arrogant. He didn't think he could be beat and if he ever ran into anyone that could go toe to toe with him it would piss him off and make him even STRONGER. The Hulk was an alpha male. The Hulk was a THUG. I love the Savage Hulk because he was the complete opposite of Bruce Banner. This is what made the dynamic so fascinating.

Bruce Banner is who we are. The Hulk is what we wish we could be. Even in the TV series the one scene almost everyone universally says is their favorite was the telephone booth scene when &quot;David&quot; Banner gets pissed because he runs out of change.

In the first movie the Hulk was just like every other King Kong, Beauty and the Beast type character; the misunderstood monster. NO...NO...NO. This was a fatal flaw in the first movie. The Hulk is not misunderstood. The Hulk is the strongest and if you get in the Hulk's way the Hulk will smash you. End of story. The Hulk LOOKED for a good fight not ran away from one. If the Hulk was running away from anything it would be because he was bored or he just whipped your ass. It wouldn't be because he was afraid or out of fear. Running away from the army? Please. The army was about as effective against the Hulk as the army in a Godzilla movie.

So, in short, the problem with the first movie was THE HULK. I've yet to see an adaptation that represents the essence of what that character was all about and what it meant to true fans. Hopefully, someone will pass the producers of Hulk 2 a memo and it should read like this;

To whom it may concern:

There is a reason why Marvel is the best comic book company on the face of the earth. Stick to the comic book and you will have a hit. Attempt once again to impose your &quot;vision&quot; and the results will be the same. A disappointing product.

Not having an opponent in the first film to challenge him was another reason for the failure of the first film creatively. The abomination as the next villian is the way to go with the brains behind him being The Leader. With the abonimation being just as strong as the Hulk but without the ability to have his strength grow exponentially like the Hulk it will give movie goers a chance to see the Hulk in a tough fight but overcome at the end with his irrestistable and unmeasurable power!

Thank you everyone for indulging me in this rant. ONE LOVE!

Mr. Holipsism

[easy D]

Well, I'm not a Hulk fan, but holip-man is right. The best part about the Hulk comics is when Hulk goes apes**t and tears everything apart (that's why the new videogame is so successful). When I want something profound and deep, I'll read Siver Surfer. When I want some over-the-top violence, I'll pick up Punisher. And when I want to see a 15 ft. green giant tear apart a city block, I'll go the Hulk. (Actually, I'll pick up one of his guest spots. He doesn't always turn into the Hulk in his comics)

[Bigkid]

Some news from yesterday about what is going on with the Hulk re-do (or should I call it The Incredible Hulk, considering that's what Avi Arad says he is GOING to call it?) Apparently, they're NOT going to be holding auditions for a new Bruce Banner, but are going to be presenting it to actors that they like. I do believe that names like Brendan Fraser &amp; Dominick Purcell were bandied about.......but I don't know if it's anything significant right now.

[Pod]

Brendan Fraser? Umm, no. That doesn't go with me. Dominick Purcell? Hmm, well he doesn't look like a smart guy but he can play an angry dude turning into the Hulk.

[easy D]

Dominic Purcell?

That dude from Prison Break and Blade: Trinity?

Nah, dude's already somewhat intense.

Fraser,hmm, I think that could be interesting.

[Sameikid]

yes, i think so... :) (http://genericcialisonline.megabb.com)

[Marvel Master 1]

Universal is releasing it, so Eric Bana is under contract, so lets put this rumor of recasting Hulk to sleep

[Oldsoul3300]

Universal may be distributing it, but they're not PRODUCING it. Banner could still be re-cast, though I'd like to see them keep Bana on board.

[Znluvx]

I'm for keeping Bana, but as someone suugested for Mr. Fantastic, I thought DAVID DUCHOVNY would have made a great Bruce Banner.

[Mtheumer]

Ok I am soo gonna get flammed for this , but hear me out.

WARNING: LOOONG, but worth it

Plot Idea:

Furthering research into the correlation between nano-meds and the radiation-adaptive genetic experimentation that lead to the creation of the Hulk, a top-secret program is started to try to recreate the process. Most of the test subjects die in the process, exept a little girl whom the process has given superhuman intelligence at the cost of a greenish skin discoloration.

The little girls intelligence continues to increase exponentially to the point where she is able to control the minds of others. She uses this ability to access the minds of everyone in the facility expanding her consciousness into a sort of hive-mind (when she speaks, everyone speaks in unison).

While this is happening, the facility has already been infiltrated by ex-Cold War operative turned freelance spy, Emil Blonsky. He had been hired to gather information on the Hulk and the possibility of a US bio-weapons project. Just as he has gotten all the information he needed, he is confronted by the little girl. She tells Blonsky that it was nice of him to &quot;volunteer&quot; for her little experiment.

A late night phone call wakes General Thaddeus &quot;Thunderbolt&quot; Ross from a sound sleep. It's a conference call with the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs. A black-bag project has gone off line and they need him and his special understanding of all things &quot;green&quot;, to clean up the mess. He tells them that recommends nothing short of a tank battalion with full air support. After he hangs up, he makes another call to his second in command. He tell him to get a team together and pick &quot;him&quot; up. After this call he looks at a picture of Betty on his nightstand and says &quot;Im sorry&quot;.

(Plot divergence: After Ross has left his quarters, the phone rings again. The voice of a little girl on the answering machine asks, &quot;Who is Betty?&quot;)

Later, A line of thunderous M-1 Abrams tanks move into position around what looks like a small deserted town. Ross, in the lead tank thinks it's just like the government to reuse this facility to save a buck. Ross, not wanting to make the same mistakes as before orders the area blanketed in a powerful tranquilizer agent before sending in teams to access the facility. Mortars fire shells that cover the entire center of town in a blue-gray haze that reflects the light of the early morning sun. Three teams of eight men move in to the hanger doors that hide the secret shaft-way to the lower levels. Just as the get close to the doors, all three teams stop. With no explanation, all the men raise their weapons and fire... at each other!

Ross watches in horror as the last man alive scrambles to find a weapon with ammunition on one of the bodies of his fallen comrades. He find a finds a 9mm, breaths a sigh of relief, reports that everything is ok now, rips his mask off, puts the weapon in his mouth and pulls the trigger! Before Ross can take in what has just happened, the entire hanger explodes! A giant humanoid creature rises from the rubble and makes a bee-line for the tank battalion. Ross gives the order to open fire and the area where the creature was standing is engulfed in ash and flame.

There is an eerie moment of silence as the smoke clears. Ross grabs a set of binoculars to get a better look. The smoke clears and there is nothing there. For a brief moment, Ross believes they actually vaporized the beast, until the tank on his left flank is crushed by a massive falling object. The creature utters two words to dumb-founded Ross &quot;Yuuoo miiissed!&quot; The battle is a massacre and Ross is the only one who survives.

Back at an Army hospital, Betty rushes to see her father. The doctor tells her that her father came in pretty bad shape and that he kept screaming &quot;...and a child shall lead them&quot;. In the room, Ross is awake and Betty asks what happened. After a long moment, he tells her he has sent for Banner. Unknown to her, he has known where he was for several months and has been keeping him under observation. Ross feels this new threat can only be handled by the Hulk and that when Banner arrives, she need to try to convince him of the danger.

Later, Ross receives a call from his second in command reporting that Banner is on a plane headed back. When asked how then managed to capture Banner, the second stated, &quot;After considering several scenarios for subduing the target, someone came up with the idea to just ask him. We politely asked Dr. Banner to meet with you, no questions asked, and he agreed. All the while, the news has been reporting a battle raging outside of Los Angeles between the Army, a raging Abomination and mobs of thousands chanting one word in unison, &quot;Leader&quot;.

Im gonna leave it right there. I think you all get the gist. The Hulks defeats the Abomination, Banner manages to out-smart the Leader using the meditation he uses to guide the Hulk, he barely keeps the Leaders mind control at bay until he can administer an powerful sedative that puts the child in an artificially induced coma. Before going into her coma, the Leaders mind give off a powerful psychic/EMP pulse that washes over the entire country, temporarily disabling all electronic devices and wiping the minds of everyone to the events of the last couple of weeks. Banner who remains uneffected, used the distraction to say his good-bys to Bettey before grabbing his bag and heading out onto a lonely desert highway.

[easy D]

Sounds like a good story. You might get some flack for the liberties taken with the Leader (Remember all the complaints people had about a black Kingpin?). Sounds like it would make a good movie. But I don't know if Marvel would pour a lot of money into something like that.

[WC]

Sounds like a good story. You might get some flack for the liberties taken with the Leader (Remember all the complaints people had about a black Kingpin?). Sounds like it would make a good movie. But I don't know if Marvel would pour a lot of money into something like that.

If you watch CSI: NY this is Flack. Don Flack.

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That's who Mtheumer should get in the post for suggesting something as sacriligeous as a little girl Leader.

[Bigkid]

Supposedly the latest rumor to have as Doc Banner/Hulk is the guy from &quot;Prison Break,&quot; who's name escapes me at the moment. I've seen that guy when he was in Blade: Trinity (I believe he played Dracula, if I'm not mistaken), and I think he's as good a choice as Bana was at the time of his announcement....... I've never watched the show, but at the very least, I know of the actor. He's very good (even though I can't remember his damn name :oops: ), he was on WPLJ the other morning here in NY and it's been reported that he &quot;stammered out&quot; a denial of his involvement. :shock: So maybe there's SOMETHING going on there that he dosen't want to cop up to!

[Essex]

I'd be really disapointed if Dominic Purcell played Banner. Purcell is a BIG guy and is intimidating without being a a gamma monster. He is the furthest away from the geeky Banner than I could ever imagine. He's closer to the big green monster himself.

[WC]

I heard something from SDCC that Lou Ferrignou might be doing the voice of the Hulk for the new film.

While it's good there's that connection again, I don't know if he's necessarily the best person for the job. He did it for the cartoon but is that the most Hulk-like voice? Of course, I don't want the Hulk to sound like he did in the first film - he sounded more like Michael Dorn (Worf from Star Trek the Next Generation), which was way too articulate.

[Bigkid]

I'd be really disapointed if Dominic Purcell played Banner. Purcell is a BIG guy and is intimidating without being a a gamma monster. He is the furthest away from the geeky Banner than I could ever imagine. He's closer to the big green monster himself.

ESSEX!
I can understand what you mean, because you feel he's an intimidating presence all on his lonesome.......but the thing is, if he's a good enough actor, he might be able to pull off the &quot;geeky&quot; thing......remember something: Eric Bana was a comedic actor BEFORE he got the role that broke out his career, but it was his performance in an Aussie film called Chopper that made people see how good of a dramatic actor that he could be. Plus, he was very menacing in that film, playing a serial killer. Perhaps one of the reasons that they are considering him, is because they feel that it's his &quot;intimidating&quot; presence that can give Banner something a little edgier........when he goes into his transformation, I mean. Sort of like in the way when Eric Bana went through the transformation into the Hulk, you could see the angry, destructive look that overcame him, going from the mild-mannered Banner to the ultra destructive Hulk.

[WC]

What do people think of Liv Tyler's casting as Betty Ross?

[Essex]

I like Liv Tyler, but I'm not wild about the casting. Something about her seems like a poor man's Jennifer Connelly. She's definitely not of the acting caliber that Ed Norton is. But I'm willing to give her a shot. Like I said, I like her...

[WC]

I like Liv Tyler, but I'm not wild about the casting. Something about her seems like a poor man's Jennifer Connelly. She's definitely not of the acting caliber that Ed Norton is. But I'm willing to give her a shot. Like I said, I like her...

Liv Tyler and Jennifer Connelly played as sisters in Inventing the Abbots. Just thought I'd mention that interesting fact. Ironic that the role goes from one sister to another.

[Bigkid]

This just reported today, I believe: But William Hurt has been cast to play Gen. &quot;Thunderbolt&quot; Ross. He's an excellent actor, and I truly do commend the recent castings for this new film......but I sort of think that it didn't get better for Ross then when Sam Elliott was cast in the first film. Even though I like Hurt........Elliot just had that great &quot;army thing&quot; going for him......I'm sure that Hurt, who is an excellent character actor, will be able to give us something solid &amp; different, so I don't mean this to be an &quot;OH FOR GOD'S SAKE!&quot; - styled type complaint thing on this casting. It's just that I really liked Sam Elliot's portrayal. Yet.........I really just have to wait and watch what they put together in another year from now........don't I???? :wink:

[Bigkid]

This just reported today, I believe: But William Hurt has been cast to play Gen. &quot;Thunderbolt&quot; Ross. He's an excellent actor, and I truly do commend the recent castings for this new film......but I sort of think that it didn't get better for Ross then when Sam Elliott was cast in the first film. Even though I like Hurt........Elliot just had that great &quot;army thing&quot; going for him......I'm sure that Hurt, who is an excellent character actor, will be able to give us something solid &amp; different, so I don't mean this to be an &quot;OH FOR GOD'S SAKE!&quot; - styled type complaint thing on this casting. It's just that I really liked Sam Elliot's portrayal. Yet.........I really just have to wait and watch what they put together in another year from now........don't I???? :wink:

BK (OH, THAT'S ME!!)

The reason that I'm bringing back my OWN quote, was because, as you can see in the quote, I sort of have my reservations about Hurt being cast in the role........but I recently saw some pics of William Hurt as &quot;Thunderbolt&quot; Ross, and I've gotta tell ya all.........just from the look of him, he REALLY looks great for the part! I mean, I've sort of been thinking all along that the way he was going to appear in this film, was the way that he appeared in &quot;A History of Violence.&quot; But I keep forgetting the power of hair/make-up. When looking just at the stills of Hurt, I kept thinking to myself, &quot;He, actually.......really........DOES look the part!&quot; Now, more and more, I think that my initial fears are going to be dashed, from just what I've seen of Wm. Hurt in the role (from the stills). And as an actor, he's not to be denied how terrific he is, so I'm even more so now excited about what is to come (which, come to think of it, is ONLY 7 months from now........isn't it??) :shock: