DD BO (Box Office, that is, he does bathe)

[The Xenos]

They just said on the news that DD took in 43.5 million. It was the biggest President's Day opening ever. So... did that meet the studio's expectations? Ours? What does it say about a sequel?

Also, I hear Ebert and Roper gave it two thumbs up. Do you think it's getting good critical reviews and will that help keep the box office? People went to see it, will they continue to?

-Xenos

[Black_Alchemy]

Well I hope that number is valid. I think it was in TV Guide that Affleck mentions that it's hoped for the movie to do 40 mil the openning weekend. If that's true then it could do well enough to earn a sequel.

[imported_Thom]

It's not getting too much critical acclaim. It seems the vote's about half and half among critics, less among the most reputed. But a good word of mouth could help.

[Essex]

I was watching Ebert and Roeper last night and I was shocked at how much they chatted up DD. Their talk about DD took up AT LEAST a third of the show and both of them raved about it. They admitted it had some problems, but Ebert flat out said that Daredevil was the answer to his problems with Spider-Man. That is exactly how I feel too.

Ebert and Roeper are, of course, hardly the be-all and end-all of film critics, but they ARE down to earth and people listen to and respect them. I'm hoping anybody who was hessitant to see it opening weekend might have gotten a look at the show and may have changed their mind.

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"That which does not kill us...makes us stranger." - Trevor Goodchild, Aeon Flux

[captain cocanut]

I just can't understand why so many other critics bashed the movie...


Also the critics of the TV Hot Ticket gave DD great reviews too

[norrinraad]

Wow, I'm really shocked that Daredevil's box office fell by about 60% in its second weekend. Alot of care was put into the film and it deserves to at least top 100 million domestically. I hope this doesn't make Fox reconsider their plans for a sequel...

[Essex]

It may have dropped considerably, but it still made close to 20 million dollars this weekend, which is more than most movies make in their opening weekend. It's made 70 million in two weeks, which is a considerable feat.

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"That which does not kill us...makes us stranger." - Trevor Goodchild, Aeon Flux

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Essex:
<B>It may have dropped considerably, but it still made close to 20 million dollars this weekend, which is more than most movies make in their opening weekend. It's made 70 million in two weeks, which is a considerable feat.

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not only that, but people tend to forget that the business just dosen't happen on the weekends. I went to see DD on a weekday, and the theater was packed. So people also have to take in the considerable amount of bucks that the film brings in during the week, but the weekend is where people always pin there hopes on because.... well, it's the weekend! You're supposed to have more free time to spend on the weekend, so you go to the movies. I think it's going to do just fine..... and ONCE everything is said and done, what with the business it may do OVERSEAS, plus the video, when it comes out........ FUGGEDABOUDITTT!!!!
Please........ SHARE!

[norrinraad]

Good points, Essex and Bigkid. The weather yesterday may have kept alot of people home too (we got a mess of snow here last night). Insiders are predicting it will cross 100 million in North America and possibly another 100 million overseas, which will make it a huge success, depending on how much they spent on advertising. Why do I care? Because I wanna have four or five of these movies a year, so the more box office they do the better!

[swingerbone]

Actually, if you want 4 or 5 of these a year... don't just see it in the theatre... buy the video or DVD... studios make most of their money off Video and DVD sales... but the box office influences when they realease the video/dvd... so it is pretty much hand in hand there.

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by swingerbone:
Actually, if you want 4 or 5 of these a year... don't just see it in the theatre... buy the video or DVD... studios make most of their money off Video and DVD sales... but the box office influences when they realease the video/dvd... so it is pretty much hand in hand there.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Plus, I don't know if you're going to get THAT many DAREDEVIL films, I mean, yes, it did VERY well, but I don't know if it's going to have that much legs in order to get it anymore than that. I think people would wind up getting really bored with this one. Spider-Man, I believe, can get away with about 2 more sequels, but even a franchise like that one.. ... I really think people would start letting out a collective YAWN after a while.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
Plus, I don't know if you're going to get THAT many DAREDEVIL films, I mean, yes, it did VERY well, but I don't know if it's going to have that much legs in order to get it anymore than that. I think people would wind up getting really bored with this one. Spider-Man, I believe, can get away with about 2 more sequels, but even a franchise like that one.. ... I really think people would start letting out a collective YAWN after a while.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I really think a film based on a character that is more grounded in reality(no superpowers) could have a very long lasting franchise like James Bond. The trick to it is to keep the central characters the same but change locations. Also, crazy stunts and explosions and VERY VERY COOL THEME MUSIC! I mean, nobody can touch James Bond's theme music. At least no one I can think of.

[imported_Thom]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
Plus, I don't know if you're going to get THAT many DAREDEVIL films...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think he was referring to 4 or 5 comic2films a year.

[swingerbone]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thom:
I think he was referring to 4 or 5 comic2films a year.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah... i would hate to see the quality if they tried to make 4 or 5 films a year per character... assuming the same prod. co. and people do it.

Thom is correct - I meant 4 or 5 of the genre... not of a specific char. Sorry if I wasn't clear

Swingerbone
http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/spideyswinger.gif

[captain cocanut]

Well it'll make over 100 million.... the word is out and a Sequel has been announced

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by swingerbone:
<B> yeah... i would hate to see the quality if they tried to make 4 or 5 films a year per character... assuming the same prod. co. and people do it.

Thom is correct - I meant 4 or 5 of the genre... not of a specific char. Sorry if I wasn't clear

Swingerbone
http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/spideyswinger.gif</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mr. BONE!
OOPS! Sorry for not understanding what you meant about the 4-5 films a year thing! Thanks for clearing that up!

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by captain cocanut:
Well it'll make over 100 million.... the word is out and a Sequel has been announced<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey, Captain C!
I think this will probably earn somewhere even closer to 125 mil., which is sort of what I'd predicted way back when, but it's going to kick ass on video, I believe. And, yes, the sequel has already been confirmed, yes. These movie people know that they've got a gold mine in there hands, not only with this character, but definately they can mine the gold out of LOADS of Marvel character's for year's to come. They have nearly 4500 characters in the Marvel vault, so they are going to make movie studios rich.

[D.K.HOOD]

After one month the movie is still in the Top Ten at the box office and has taken in 96 million dollars! Negative reviews be DAMNED!

[Raven_VLA]

Rock beats scissors, scissors beats paper, paper beats rock, profit beats elitist film critics.

http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/smile.gif

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
After one month the movie is still in the Top Ten at the box office and has taken in 96 million dollars! Negative reviews be DAMNED!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

D.K.!
Well, that was the take from this past weekend, yes, that pushed it into the 96 mil range. But, to be fair, it IS sort of running out of steam, they only pulled in about 4-5 million this weekend, I don't know if they are going to pull in enough this weekend to go OVER the 100 mil. mark. I had predicted that it would go over 125 million, but I don't know if it's going to have the legs for that. It just might hit 100 mil. this weekend, and then the studios may just let it go for another couple of weeks or so before they take a look at the TOTAL amount by the beginning of April, and then let it run it's course. But I still think the money to be had for this particular flick is going to be on the home rental and DVD sales, that's where EVERYTHING seems to be going as of late.

[Bigkid]

Well, it seems that DAREDEVIL may have run it's course. I can't find it in any theater's around me, and I see that it's fallen out of the top 10. Has anybody seen what the last few grosses on this are? It looks like my prediction of $125 mil may have been a bit WAY off of the mark. Anyone know?

[Thrillhouse]

for the weekend 3/21-3/23 daredevil finished 12th taking in $1.4 million for a total of $98.4 million

[Bigkid]

Thank you for the stats, Mr. Thrill! I was beginning to wonder where the film stood. I think that it might be kept around a couple of weeks longer and then they'll probably get the 100 mil tally that they are looking for.

[Bigkid]

Hey everybody!
Anyone have any idea if they cracked the 100mil mark as yet? I've a feeling that they may have come up a tad short.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
<B>Hey everybody!
Anyone have any idea if they cracked the 100mil mark as yet? I've a feeling that they may have come up a tad short. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

comicscontinuum said it was 99 million.

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
comicscontinuum said it was 99 million.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mr. Hood!
Thanks for the update. I wonder if the Producer's are somewhat annoyed at the fact that it's sort of "stuck" at that mark, not cracking the 100 mil mark? Well, like I've said before, it looks like it's run it's course, do you all think that they will keep it around just a few weeks longer? SHARE!

[imported_Thom]

It's a little under half a million away. That's as of Monday, so it's probably gathered a couple hundred thou more. Unfortunately, it looks like it will be losing most of its screens this weekend, so it's hard to say if it'll make it to $100 mil.

[norrinraad]

It'll probably juuuuuuuuust crawl past the Century mark before retiring for good. A similar thing happened last year with Vanilla Sky. It crawled to $99,888,000 and just stopped, so Paramount dumped it into about 200 extra theatres on President's Day weekend (Canadians should get a Prime Minister's Day long weekend in February too) to make sure it crossed $100 mil. Once it did that, it was yanked from theatres (I guess they didn't want to spoil Tommy's unprecedented run of $100 million plus hits). I'm sure they will keep DD around until it hits that mark. It should be almost there by now anyway.

[MayorBigRig]

I think DVD sales will be colossal for Daredevil.

[Relic]

Well, it finally made it past the 100mill mark

Relic

[captain cocanut]

It's now the third highest grossing Marvel film ever made.... so far.

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Relic:
<B>Well, it finally made it past the 100mill mark

Relic</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

To: The Good Mr. R!
Really? It finally made it, when did you see this? What paper was it reported in, I'd like to know for myself. Did you see it reported in Variety? Please....SHARE!

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
<B> To: The Good Mr. R!
Really? It finally made it, when did you see this? What paper was it reported in, I'd like to know for myself. Did you see it reported in Variety? Please....SHARE!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

it's in today's frontpage. Is it me or did the studio stop advertising the film after the first 2 weeks it was out? They may have reached the $100M weeks ago if the movie was given another push.

[Relic]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
<B> To: The Good Mr. R!
Really? It finally made it, when did you see this? What paper was it reported in, I'd like to know for myself. Did you see it reported in Variety? Please....SHARE!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just got it off the top 50 actuals from BoxOfficeMojo.

Relic

[imported_Thom]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
it's in today's frontpage. Is it me or did the studio stop advertising the film after the first 2 weeks it was out? They may have reached the $100M weeks ago if the movie was given another push. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, that might have been a reasonable choice... Unfortunately, Fox seems to blow in the marketing department. If you remember, X-Men wasn't hyped very much either.

[sandman1138]

well I went and saw it and thought it sucked big time. It was no more than spiderman in a red suit. And why was a blind man fighting like daredevil in broad daylight in a playground? And just what was in the chemical that would allow him to fall four or five stories without breaking his legs. Even Batman get's hurt when he does that! And what made him light enough to swing from a fan without breaking it? Doubt I'll even buy the DVD.

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Relic:
<B> I just got it off the top 50 actuals from BoxOfficeMojo.

Relic</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you know where it ended up in the top 50?
Was it like, #20, or 15, where did it end up?

SHARE!

[Greg Tolken]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sandman1138:
well I went and saw it and thought it sucked big time. It was no more than spiderman in a red suit... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't believe people saw this. Spider-man and Daredevil are two completely different characters. Both their lives suck for being heros but for totally different reasons and the have two different styles of vigilantism. I'm sure others can explain this point much more in depth than I but I just wanted to start it.

[MarvelKid18]

First of all, the movie was better than Spider-Man in my opinion, so Spider-Man was a preemptive Daredevil =P. Second, Spider-Mans suit IS Red with a little bit of blue. Third, bite me, Daredevil rules. Can't argue with 100mil.

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarvelKid18:
Can't argue with 100mil.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahem..don't make me list all of the bad movies that have made more money than Daredevil because there are quite a few. I liked Daredevil, but the 100 mil arguement doesn't prove it was good.

[MarvelKid18]

Oh yeah? And who are you? The final authority on movie critiquing? If you didn't think the movie was bad, why open your trap?

[This message has been edited by MarvelKid18 (edited 04-26-2003).]

[D.K.HOOD]

Because you won't shut yours.

Anymore questions?

[MarvelKid18]

Oh really? I haven't yet had any requests to shut mine. So how about we stop being the wise ass here and start being a little less cynical of people you agree with, ok junior?

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarvelKid18:
Oh really? I haven't yet had any requests to shut mine. So how about we stop being the wise ass here and start being a little less cynical of people you agree with, ok junior?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fine, boy.

[MarvelKid18]

Good... younger... person... #$@*, I'm dry...

[D.K.HOOD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarvelKid18:
Good... younger... person... #$@*, I'm dry...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good, all I had left was tadpole.

[imported_Thom]

Jeez, you people suck at flaming. http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/tongue.gif

Not that I'm complaining.

[D.K.HOOD]

Just trying to set an example for guys like Bling-Bling. That is, if Bling-Bling ever truly existed in the first place.

[MarvelKid18]

Son of a... where did you get the impression I'm a bad flamer, Thom? I got no beef with DK... he pointed out a hole in my words... had to say something... problem is, we don't fuel the fire to flame eachother... the hates not there...

[This message has been edited by MarvelKid18 (edited 04-27-2003).]

[imported_Thom]

I know. I was just teasing. Silly. :P

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarvelKid18:
First of all, the movie was better than Spider-Man in my opinion, so Spider-Man was a preemptive Daredevil =P. Second, Spider-Mans suit IS Red with a little bit of blue. Third, bite me, Daredevil rules. Can't argue with 100mil.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I found BOTH films to be very enjoyable, actually. I thought the CGI in certain moments in DD were really badly done, but I did enjoy the storyline. The actors surrounding Affleck made the film much more enjoyable DESPITE the casting of Ben as Matt/DD. PLEASE...... let's not get into some heated argument about "What the f**k's wrong with Affleck"? I've stated too many times my feeling's about the guy (don't get him at all). But the film was fine, despite HIM. Spidey was a sensational movie going experience, so on both counts, BOTH film's were good expierences for me.

[MarvelKid18]

Yeah, I know... Spidey was better than DD in some respects... but yeah...

[Bigkid]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarvelKid18:
Yeah, I know... Spidey was better than DD in some respects... but yeah...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was just glad to see that movie studio's are finally getting the picture and seeing how good the Marvel brand of character's are.
X-Men, I believe, really paved the way for Marvel, really showed how the Marvel Universe can be truly brought to life, and now I believe the rest of the Marvel character's will REALLY enjoy similar fates.
I DO hope I'm right on the mark about that, especially with a second DD film on the barby and and ELECTRA spinoff happening.

[The Xenos]

Man, that was one of the most enjoyable flame wars I've seen. It just ran out of steam. That was great.

-Xenos

[MarvelKid18]

What could I do? DK's not a jerk like Cap'nContradiction. Could have been worse. DK could have corrected the Cap and got accused of Trolling.

[D.K.HOOD]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MarvelKid18:
[B] Cap'nContradiction.

That would be a great name for a comic superhero! I can imagine him being a character in The Tick comics. Cap'nContradiction: he saves you from a mugging and then ruins your credit with identity fraud!

[captain cocanut]

I don't care what anyone says... DD was better than Spidey... and all of the DC based movies put together. IMO

[Black_Alchemy]

Larger than life, that's what superheroes are all about. Been some complaints about his 30 foot leaps and the high dives off the top of buildings. Have these people seriously read the comics? If this is their complaint, they shouldn't have seen the movie to begin with since DD does everything in the movie in the comics, plus a lot more. Hell, comic DD would have been dead ages ago if you want to compare his existence to real world physics. Very little of his comic book actions is physically possible by any of the TOP gymnasts or acrobats in the world. So phooie on that crap. It looked fuckin' fantastic and for my 8 bucks that's what counts.

[D.K.HOOD]

Daredevil was more enjoyable for me than Spider-Man was, but it was not as well made as Spider-man.

[jack of trades]

I'm sorry, Daredevil better than Spider-Man? Both movies worked well, because they're great stories. I can completely accept that storylines need to change slightly to make for a believable movie. But DD went a bit too far.

I take my hat off to their Bullseye interpretation. That was awesome. Much better than the dorky costume he had in the comics. Even Kingpin was a nice twist. But Elektra? And DD himself?

Anyone who has any knowledge of martial arts knows that leather is not the easier thing to move in. Why did they change her outfit?? Black leather is more seductive than red silk? Not so sure about that. Red silk would seem odd to the non-fan? Maybe. But wouldn't it have been cool to see her use silk ribbons in battle, as well as her sai? Besides, the Black Widow is the one who wears black.

And please, Matt Murdock showing off in the park? Like he would really do that. In civvies. The whole Matt/Elektra thing was way off. Besides, Elektra is way too strong and interesting a character to have her history crammed into the time allotted.

Daredevil had a great storyline. They should have stuck to it.