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Juvenilemike
04-30-2003, 03:26 AM
http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Movies&action=page&obj_id=38458#

Looks cool.
Mike

CaptainSkeptic
04-30-2003, 04:37 AM
Are you out of your f*cking mind!That guy at Ain't it cool news got it right:The pic looks like some lead paint drinking punisher fan playing dress-up in his parents basement.

D.K.HOOD
04-30-2003, 04:49 AM
This is not a good looking picture but it does not affect my faith in the actor at all.

Somebody probably said to the photographer "make this look like a Tim Bradstreet cover" and told Thomas Jane to make an ugly mugshot face to look like the guy on those covers. Whoever released this photo should be popped upside his head. But I bet that when people see Thomas Jane in action as Frank Castle everyone will forget this picture.

CaptainSkeptic
04-30-2003, 04:59 AM
I don't know.Part of me is just happy they didn't do something incredibly stupid like cast Stallone in the role(looks even less like the punisher) but this does not look good.Pre-production still or not they should have done something with the hair.

A bulked up Ray Liota would have been a perfect punisher in the old school Mike Zeck vein.

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Flinch
04-30-2003, 05:40 AM
Yea. We need Ray Liotta dammit!

Also: I`m not going to see that crap.

MarvelKid18
04-30-2003, 06:49 AM
Is that picture for real? Cause that guy doesn't look like Thomas Jane... of course, I am tired... really tired... so don't quote me on that...

norrinraad
04-30-2003, 10:04 AM
C'mon guys, it doesn't look all that bad, at least they've got the skull on the chest...However, I never saw Frank with blond hair but hey, it's still early... http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

Juvenilemike
04-30-2003, 10:41 AM
Sheesh!

Ok, here's my reasoning behind thinking it looks cool. Batman and Robin. :P There's no scuplted ab's, no plastic, and importantly no nipples. It looks like a guy that's gone out to his local army surplus store and got the *real* stuff. There's a sense of realism that I think works better for Mr. Castle. Also, there's no leather. Furthermore, there's no spray on muscles on the t-shirt.

Yes it could be darker, and more shadows, and there could be a few more scars. But I think they've done more right than they have wrong. And the punisher logo *allways* looks cool!

Mike
~who's never coming out of the DCG again. :|~

Stygian
04-30-2003, 10:54 AM
Your kidding right? That has to be the worst rendition of the Punisher I have seen since Dolph. Logo included. They definatley have a lot of work to do before I'll be forking out any money to see this one. I think if you really want to see the Punisher, they should listen to Tattered_Troubadour (http://www.comics2film.com/DCG/DispArt.php3?f_id=11285&f_ssn=) and do it right! Now there's a Frank Castle/Punisher if ever I saw one!

Golden Falcon
04-30-2003, 11:36 AM
You know I like Thomas Jane as an actor and I think he can even hold down the role of a few comic heroes such as Supes or Capt. Marvel...BUT...and a BIG BUT AT THAT IS...

THE HAIR HAS TO LOOK REAL.

Just ask Halle Berry who IMHO was smart to tell the make up artist on X2 to get the hair right.

Bigkid
04-30-2003, 01:01 PM
I'm inclined to go with what D.K. said about it: the pic is not great, but it shouldn't be a reflection on the actor, I STILL believe Jane will make people forget this early pic. I love the costuming, though. However, Thomas Jane does appear to be "mugging it up" for the cameras. I don't get the sense that he was even in character when the photo was taken. Listen everybody:
It's still early....... there's still time...
I wouldn't go on the warpath about this choice for the role as yet. Once we see it, then we can make the final decision. In the end, it's just going to be everyone's opinion anyway, right?

Golden Falcon
04-30-2003, 03:07 PM
For the record my post was a critizism of the make up artist/stylist and not Thomas Jane.

GIVE HIM BLACK HAIR

mallratX2
04-30-2003, 06:36 PM
so should we be expecting a Punisher Hype pretty soon???

Bigkid
04-30-2003, 07:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mallratX2:
so should we be expecting a Punisher Hype pretty soon???<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's a good question, because I'm not sure if they've even shot a reel of film as yet! But I'm sure if they've gotten press pics of him already, that they must have at the very least, a trailer in the works.

themanwithoutfear
04-30-2003, 08:58 PM
see? have you guys been reading these posts? it's just bitching( for the most part).
fans complaining over nothing. the fans have complained "oh we want this we want that etc etc" and you know what? WE GOT IT!!!!
AND THEY STILL BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
the pic is f--kin awesome. the only problem i have is that he dosen't have black hair. this might change soon or they might just leave frank blonde.
but it's something i can get over.

yeah i'm not used to seeing frank with blonde hair but as long as it's a good movie, i'll live with it.
so quite your whining and complaing. at least it's not george clooney playing frank.and i'm damn sure this won't turn out like captain america.

WonderWomanGoddess
04-30-2003, 09:56 PM
I agree with Mike, for the most part, I think they are heading in the right direction. I like the military, realistic look, I like the logo (or is it a tad too big? I dunno). I love the details, like the military issue belt, and I loooooove that it's not spandex, or leather.

I hate the texture of the jacket and actually I dislike the trench look for Frank becuase it is too 'matrix-y' right now. Other than for concealing larger weapons, a trench serves no purpose for Frank as he's not into making that type of mysterious stranger impression. I also want to see his hair be NOT blonde, but you know guys, this is probably just a test shot for costumes....no reason to think that this is anything but prelimary and incomplete.

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D.K.HOOD
04-30-2003, 10:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WonderWomanGoddess:
<B> this is probably just a test shot for costumes....no reason to think that this is anything but prelimary and incomplete.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree with you. That's why I made the comment that whoever released the picture should be popped upside their head. If it wasn't for the skull on the shirt I would think this was Christopher Lambert making another Highlander movie. Studios are now starting too early hyping comic book movies. I'd be surprised if Punisher hit theaters before 2004, so why was it necessary to leak this photo in April 2003?

GRIM
04-30-2003, 11:10 PM
the purpose of that picture was to get the fanboys talking. and guess what?

now my one problem with the pic, was his face. he was doing the face all wrong. trying to look to mean, just came out stupid. he shouldnt look mean, rather tired, beat down. then, when he pulls the gun from his holster, and points it at some mobsters head, that when he comes alive and give us all a crazed and angrey face, like any good marine should. man i hope he is an ex marine in this movie. also, loose the hair. my idea would be to shave his damn head. not compleatley balled, but he shouldnt have more than a good black buzz cut. i know its never been that way in the comic, but i think that would do well for tohmas jane in particular. hes got to much curl in his hair.

but my compliments to the costume designer, although, i would make the skull more square, closer to the comics.

TheHeretic
05-01-2003, 01:11 AM
After much thought, I really think that the BEST man to play the Punisher would be actor/singer Henry Rollins. Hed have been perfect.
The pic was terrible. The hair MUST change. And am I the only one that noticed the lack of weapons? It appears from the pic is that Punny is getting ready to go a-killing, yet theres what, 1 gun in the pic? I have very low hopes for this, and most of the second generation comics movies.
It does look like a Bradstreet cover, except that Bret "The Hitman" Hart isnt anywhere to be seen

Juvenilemike
05-01-2003, 04:59 AM
Thanks wondy http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/smile.gif

I don't know if his hair is blonde, more of a brown. :P


Mike

Flinch
05-01-2003, 10:02 AM
I don`t understand why people say: "they`re doing it right". How is that? As there been any indications from the director they`ve chosen to the actor, that they know what they Hell they`re doing?

And how OH HOW is Thomas Janes a good actor? Have you seen how bland he was in Deep Blue See? Jeeeez guys...!!! Next thing you know people will cheer if Kevin Costner does Thor. DC comics fans are way more critical. And they`re right to be to be that way.

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The Amazing Crappo
05-01-2003, 12:28 PM
It's not the best looking pic in the world, but it's not exactly hard to fix. Dye his hair black, and maybe put a bullet proof vest under the t-shirt. Not only would it be practical, but it would also enhance the chest area to make it more imposing..I still say Michael Madson but Jane isn't that bad...it's Hensleigh I'm more worried about..

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Stygian
05-01-2003, 01:14 PM
I think you mean Michael Madsen, and yes he would do well as the Punisher. Good choice.

CaptainSkeptic
05-01-2003, 03:03 PM
Couple of points:

1)The skull is about right and I have no problem with that.It only appears more "squarish" in latter comics by sketchier and less talented artists IMO.The original Zeck renditions(see punisher mini-series and the GN Return to Big Nothing) had a very similar styled skull.

2)The hair IS important.Castle's black hair is a trademark just as Superman's hair is.If someone made a superman movie with a blond superman people would be upset adn Puni' is no different.

3)The "minor" problems we have with this pic are not the SOLE reasons many of us are suspecting the worst.The aforementioned problems with Hensleigh(as director) and the script itself suggest the guys behind this pic are following the same modus operandi of previous comics to film disastersd such as The Crow, Faust, Batman and...well every c2f movie ever made besides Blade and X-Men jsut about.I realise there are some people far less demanding than I who don't think the Crow and Batman were that bad and you are entitled to your opinion but I maintain that there is no real reason those pics could not have been as good or at least nearly as good as the books which spawned them.Sadly the Batman movie was a steaming poile of crap compared to Miller's Year One and The Crow movie was like a children's pop-up version of O'Barr's original tale.

I totally understand the decision to change Frank's orgin a bit and make him an FBI agent or cop instead of a viet nam vet and there is no reason this change should have any adverse effect on the story.It is Hensleigh's track record as a writer(for example:see the Hulk script he turned in which was crap and thankfully abandoned) and his lack of directorial experience that have me worried.Even if he is not writing the scrip for this one(and I do not remember who is writing it), as director he will have final say on any sudden changes or reworkings done and his writer's ego may come out at any point and inflict irreparable damage.

Bottom line is I know better than to let my inner fan boy out and expect ANY C2F release to be worth the popcorn kernels stuck in my teeth after I leave the theatre and there are many reasons to suspect this film will be more of the same crap we have seen over the last few decades of C2F translations.

themanwithoutfear
05-01-2003, 04:15 PM
first off..yes i have said many times that rollins would be perfect. second..i cant believe i never thought of michal madsen.
and can someone send me a link or descibe that old hulk script..i wanna see if its as bad as you make it out to be

Bigkid
05-01-2003, 04:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Flinch:
<B>I don`t understand why people say: "they`re doing it right". How is that? As there been any indications from the director they`ve chosen to the actor, that they know what they Hell they`re doing?

And how OH HOW is Thomas Janes a good actor? Have you seen how bland he was in Deep Blue See? Jeeeez guys...!!! Next thing you know people will cheer if Kevin Costner does Thor. DC comics fans are way more critical. And they`re right to be to be that way.

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Flinch.
Have you ever seen *61? He played Mickey Mantle in that....flawlessly. I believe he was also in Boogie Nights, if I'm not mistaken. He's grade A actor, please believe it. I didn't see Deep Blue Sea, so maybe he didn't hit the mark on that one, but I've seen him enough to know that he's a damn good choice (for me anyway).

MarvelKid18
05-02-2003, 05:12 AM
Screw the Hulk script, where the hell is this Punisher script you all "supposedly" read?

And I'm being serious, cause I want to read this awful script and judge for myself rather than take someones critical and opinionated word for it.

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Flinch
05-02-2003, 08:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originaly posted by Big Kid
<B>Flinch.
Have you ever seen *61? He played Mickey Mantle in that....flawlessly. I believe he was also in Boogie Nights, if I'm not mistaken. He's grade A actor, please believe it. I didn't see Deep Blue Sea, so maybe he didn't hit the mark on that one, but I've seen him enough to know that he's a damn good choice (for me anyway).</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi there Big Kid! Yea, I can see your point. But even if Thomas Jane was a good actor, what is this have to with The Punisher? Shouldn`t these guys hire people that looks and feels like the character? I just think they make their job more difficult that it should be, when it would be so easy to just pick somebody that has the vibe and look of the character. Like say...Ed Norton is a fine actor but it would be a Hell of a stretch to cast him as Captain America since he doesn`t have the body for it(even if he starts working out) and he certainly doesn`t have the attitude. I would say in this case go for a big blond that doesn`t look like a killer and who can act. That simple.

About Punisher, you need 1-big 2-badass 3-dark-hair. Someone mentioned Mickeal Madsen? There you go: get Madsen and start shooting the film. Again, that simple.

The only reason they hired Thomas was because they saw him as a rising hot young actor and Marvel wanted him in one of their movies. How they reached that conclusion I would never know but if they liked him so much well they should at least have hired him for for a character more similar to him like say, Johnny Blaze aka Ghost Rider.

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Bigkid
05-02-2003, 08:43 AM
Well, first and foremost, Thomas Jane is your typical character actor, he's not really a leading man. So to say that they hired him for the reason that he's an up and coming hot shot young actor..... well, I just don't think that's the reasoning (all together, at least). I believe there is some validity to what you say, however. I think I did make a point somewhere in this thread that the producer's of this film might start kicking themselves if he were to catch on in another project and become a big star, thus making them think that they dropped the ball when they had him in their grasp. So I can see the point that you are making, Flinch, because I DID say something myself to that effect. But, again, like I've said, this guy is the type of actor who does such hard work on his character and researches the role just so, that he winds up capturing the spirit of the person he is portraying. He work's very much the way an Al Pacino does. Now, does that mean that I'm going to hire an Al Pacino to play Frank Castle? No, certainly not......even if they were making this film 30 years ago, when Pacino was a lot younger. But I firmly believe that Jane will really capture the soul of Frank, the picture not withstanding.

Flinch
05-02-2003, 09:30 AM
Thomas Jane=Pacino? Oh my god man, you`re seeing him much better than he actualy is.

D.K.HOOD
05-02-2003, 11:28 AM
I would compare Thomas Jane more to Dennis Hopper but that's off topic. I have seen *61 and it is one of Jane's best performances, but that's not the role that has me convinced he's right for Frank Castle. I've said this in the past, check out the movie called "Thursday". As a matter of fact, if anybody should be directing The Punisher it should be the guy who made this film. If you want extreme bloody violence with sick twisted humor, then this is a movie you should see.

MarvelKid18
05-02-2003, 07:33 PM
That's actually a REALLY good comparison, DK. I also agree with your choice of film to prove Janes worth. That movie is the only reason I never complained when Jane was cast. The director is the only thing I'm worried about.

Bigkid
05-04-2003, 03:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Flinch:
Thomas Jane=Pacino? Oh my god man, you`re seeing him much better than he actualy is. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, the comparison was merely the comparison of "school's of acting" that both are from. Pacino and Jane are both the type's of actors who immerse themselves in the roles that they are portraying. Some actors go WAY over the top in this process (think Daniel-Day Lewis in "My left foot"), who stayed in the character of someone with cerebal palsy even when the cameras stopped rolling, and gave interviews AS Christy Brown. So what I said was more to compare how they go about their jobs, rather than to say that Jane is on the same par with Pacino. Although with one or two more REALLY good choice of roles, Jane won't be far from the comparison with Al.

Bigkid
05-04-2003, 03:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
I would compare Thomas Jane more to Dennis Hopper but that's off topic. I have seen *61 and it is one of Jane's best performances, but that's not the role that has me convinced he's right for Frank Castle. I've said this in the past, check out the movie called "Thursday". As a matter of fact, if anybody should be directing The Punisher it should be the guy who made this film. If you want extreme bloody violence with sick twisted humor, then this is a movie you should see.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey D.K.!
Let me ask you something..... do you remember what the director's name of this film was? And, speaking of director's for this film, did someone mention Darren Aronofsky to direct already? Because I thought I saw someone mention HIS name as a possible director for this project.

D.K.HOOD
05-05-2003, 04:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
<B> Hey D.K.!
Let me ask you something..... do you remember what the director's name of this film was? </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

His name is Skip Woods and the guy must have a second job because the only other thing he's done is write the screenplay for and co-produce Swordfish.

Bigkid
05-05-2003, 06:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D.K.HOOD:
His name is Skip Woods and the guy must have a second job because the only other thing he's done is write the screenplay for and co-produce Swordfish. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I saw that one, which, ironically, starred Hugh Jackman. It wasn't the best of what that guy probably has to offer, now that you are mentioning him. I have to check this flick out...... from what you tell me he maybe the guy who should direct this film, who knows? I think that it's not that he might have another line of work that you don't hear from him, but rather he maybe working on his next screenplay..... which, in some cases, can take up to 2-3 years to get from page 1 to before the cameras.

maddox
05-08-2003, 06:28 PM
hey i think that that pic was a good pic. they could of done better but over all i think they did good.

The Amazing Crappo
05-10-2003, 07:50 PM
On a side note, if I read the article at Superhero Hype correctly, The Punisher film wont be set in New York....sheesh, what's next? Give him a t-shirt with no armor and make him an FBI agent? hehe.....oh...wait.

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Bigkid
05-11-2003, 10:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maddox:
hey i think that that pic was a good pic. they could of done better but over all i think they did good.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I wasn't too crazy about the pic, but, it's in the early stages of the development of this film, and this seems to be a pub. shot, more than anything. I think it's going to be a fine film, really.

imported_Robbo
05-18-2003, 12:08 PM
I'm moving this to the brand new Punisher forum (http://www.comics2film.com/cgibin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Punisher&number=18&DaysPrune=30&LastLogin=)!

MALCOLMXERXES
05-23-2003, 06:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stygian:
Your kidding right? That has to be the worst rendition of the Punisher I have seen since Dolph. Logo included. They definatley have a lot of work to do before I'll be forking out any money to see this one. I think if you really want to see the Punisher, they should listen to Tattered_Troubadour (http://www.comics2film.com/DCG/DispArt.php3?f_id=11285&f_ssn=) and do it right! Now there's a Frank Castle/Punisher if ever I saw one!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


STYGIAN,

MR. DOLPH LUNDGREN @ least physically & facially resembled the character whom he was cast to portray, even moreso with his hair dyed black.

TROUBADOUR has done excellent work, but I would rather see someone other than MR. JONES as THE PUNISHER(TM), for his overacting in films like BATMAN FOREVER(TM) has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Also, his work in "THE PARK IS MINE" proves that he would be better suited to be hunted down by THE PUNISHER(TM), instead.

That many facial scars would cost THE PUNISHER(TM) the relative anonymity that he currently enjoys. He isn't TOP SGT. BARNES, after all!
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MALCOLMXERXES
05-23-2003, 06:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheHeretic:
<B>After much thought, I really think that the BEST man to play the Punisher would be actor/singer Henry Rollins. Hed have been perfect.
The pic was terrible. The hair MUST change. And am I the only one that noticed the lack of weapons? It appears from the pic is that Punny is getting ready to go a-killing, yet theres what, 1 gun in the pic? I have very low hopes for this, and most of the second generation comics movies.
It does look like a Bradstreet cover, except that Bret "The Hitman" Hart isnt anywhere to be seen</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

THEHERETIC,

There are also 2 pistols in his shoulder rig.


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MALCOLMXERXES
05-23-2003, 06:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stygian:
I think you mean Michael Madsen, and yes he would do well as the Punisher. Good choice.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

STYGIAN,

I thought that MR. MICHAEL MADSEN was brilliant in VENGEANCE UNLIMITED(TM)!



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Bigkid
05-26-2003, 11:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MALCOLMXERXES:
<B> STYGIAN,

I thought that MR. MICHAEL MADSEN was brilliant in VENGEANCE UNLIMITED(TM)!

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Michael Madsen.... Mr. Blonde, in "Reservoir Dogs" you mean? Is it the popular opinion here that he'd have been a good PUNISHER? I mean... I like Madsen and all, but he, unfortunately, is not really a hot ticket item right now for much of anything being done on the "A List".... Thomas Jane is an up and comer, and I think he's going to be fine, I really do. Maybe 10 years ago or so, he'd have been a really good fit, but now..... I don't know.......

MALCOLMXERXES
05-27-2003, 04:46 PM
BK,

No, I don't think that he would be a good choice for THE PUNISHER(TM); I just thought that he did an excellent job in that programme, which was a hybrid synthesis of THE EQUALI[S]ER(TM) & THE SHADOW(TM).

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Bigkid
05-28-2003, 02:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MALCOLMXERXES:
<B>BK,

No, I don't think that he would be a good choice for THE PUNISHER(TM)</B>; I just thought that he did an excellent job in that programme, which was a hybrid synthesis of THE EQUALI[S]ER(TM) & THE SHADOW(TM).

OH! I getcha, ok, I remember that show too. I know what you mean now... yes, and I do agree with you. He did a great job in that show.

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MALCOLMXERXES
05-30-2003, 02:18 AM
Thanks, B! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif I gotcha back, G!

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Stygian
06-01-2003, 04:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MALCOLMXERXES:
<B>
STYGIAN,

MR. DOLPH LUNDGREN @ least physically & facially resembled the character whom he was cast to portray, even moreso with his hair dyed black.

TROUBADOUR has done excellent work, but I would rather see someone other than MR. JONES as THE PUNISHER(TM), for his overacting in films like BATMAN FOREVER(TM) has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Also, his work in "THE PARK IS MINE" proves that he would be better suited to be hunted down by THE PUNISHER(TM), instead.

That many facial scars would cost THE PUNISHER(TM) the relative anonymity that he currently enjoys. He isn't TOP SGT. BARNES, after all!
http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif


</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My thoughts are that Jones is a more seasoned actor, his age fits more with the Vietnam veteran theme in Castles history, and the rugged beat to hell look is much more in line with what I would see Frank as looking like after years of punishing mob & crime lords. Frank should be the old guy that kicks the crap out of the young punk "wanna be" criminals and then runs into another vet or older more seasoned killer who in the climax of the film must die in some extraordinarily violent way. Tommy Lee Jones would be able to play the military part with ease. Think Fire Birds or The Fugitive.

As far as "The Park is Mine" that was old work for him, he's much better now. I mean jeez he did that back in 86'. Then he was little more than Thomas Jane as far as seasoning. Regardless, the picture is what I was referring too. That’s the kind of Punisher movie I'd rather be seeing. But you know what they say, wish in one hand, and crap in the other and see wich fills up first.

MALCOLMXERXES
06-02-2003, 09:43 AM
STYGIAN,

THE PUNISHER(TM) is more than just a "military part", & it's his work in THE FUGITIVE(TM) & FEDERAL MARSHALS(TM) that has done as much to dissuade me of his suitably for the role.

He did what he does very well, but what he does is not THE PUNISHER(TM).

Also, he is even less ethnically correct for the role than TJ.

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...And these weapons make me VERY f*ck*n' Responsible!

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