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04-06-2004, 01:24 PM

In response to the newest casting rumours, yeah, I don't really like the idea of Tim Robbins as Doom. I don't really see him as menacing enough. He's not bad for Reed, but I'm even going off him for that role at the moment. And Michael Chikilis for Ben Grimm? Well, I can't say i've seen him in much. Is he in the Shield? Well, he's got to be better than having Michael Clarke Duncan though. But what's Chikilis's speaking like? Because Ben has to be quite articulate and witty to pull off that ever-lovin' personality.

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Bigkid

04-06-2004, 11:47 PM

Well, from what I recall about The Thing (Ben Grimm), he was a street guy who went to college..... he was someone who grew up, from how I remember it, on the lower east side of NY, hence the way he spoke. I've seen Chiklis in other films and T.V. series' here in the states, most notably before The Shield, The Commish. Very NY feel to it. I believe Chiklis IS a NY native, so that part of it is totally believable. I think he'd be a really strong choice for this part. I've a feeling that there are going to be some unknown's in the mix with this as well. Story is not what I would consider a high profile director, which lends me to believe that maybe some lesser known actors will be put into this film. And you're right, Welshy..... I just can't seem to see that they are serious about casting Robbins as Dr. Doom....... like you, I would've imagined him for the role of Reed more so, but even for that role, I don't think he's ultimately the best choice. Still, I'd go with either George Clooney or, as my plan "B", Bruce Greenwood, who'd probably be a lot more "get a ble" then Clooney.

04-07-2004, 12:57 PM

One good piece of news in today's fan feed is the following statement:

"Many times, you need a star to define the movie," Arad said. "That's not the case here. We can focus on getting the actors that are totally right for the roles."

I'm glad the director has this viewpoint. I'd rather not see just any actor in the role just to fill seats. I don't care if it's largely an unknown cast. With that in mind, I'll still say that I can't see George Clooney in the Reed Richards role. He doesn't seem intelligent enough, and one would only see the star not the character.

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Bigkid

04-07-2004, 02:10 PM

I don't feel that Clooney is an UN intelligent actor, though, Welshy. Maybe he dosen't come off as much as an intelligent actor for you, but I feel that he's actually grown in the past few years. Believe me, I used to feel that that "bobbing-head" thing that he used to do was one of the most annoying, mannered things that I've ever seen an actor do. But I really believe he's much better than those days. I liked what Arad said about not having stars in the film, that's a good thing......but I also honestly feel that Clooney is much better than most people think. If not him, as I've said before, I think that Bruce Greenwood would be a really good second choice. Also, you know, I haven't mentioned this actor before, but what about Sam Neil? He hasn't been in much lately, but I think that he's another actor who could be able to bring a VAST amount of intelligence to the role that it requires. What say you all?? Please......SHARE!!

04-07-2004, 03:34 PM

Well, I would still prefer William Peterson to Sam Neil, George Clooney or Bruce Greenwood. Although, I can't say I've seen Bruce Greenwood in anything.

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Bigkid

04-07-2004, 03:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
Well, I would still prefer William Peterson to Sam Neil, George Clooney or Bruce Greenwood. Although, I can't say I've seen Bruce Greenwood in anything.

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Although I like William Peterson, I think that he might be a little too old at this point to be playing Reed. You can catch Bruce Greenwood in "13 Days", in which he played John F. Kennedy. He's a really good actor. I think you'd like him.

04-07-2004, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by manwithoutfear(reed IS doom! lol)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Robbo:
Nooooooooo! Twist ending!!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks like this is coming true if Tim Robbins decides to play Doom.

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04-10-2004, 08:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
I've seen Chiklis in other films and T.V. series' here in the states, most notably before The Shield, The Commish. Very NY feel to it. I believe Chiklis IS a NY native, so that part of it is totally believable. I think he'd be a really strong choice for this part. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I watched Chiklis in the Shield yesterday. I have to say that he doesn't exactly seem a barrel of laughs. He seems a bit dry and serious - too serious for Ben, even though Ben is quite bitter at the start. He doesn't seem to have the quick wit and the humour that is so characteristic of Ben. I'd have to say that in this respect, James Gandolfini has more of the personality. Chiklis just seems to be merely a tough guy.

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Oldsoul3300

04-12-2004, 12:16 PM

--I seem to remember Chiklis being quite funny (and dramatic) on The Commish. I haven't seen The Shield, so I can't comment.

Bigkid

04-13-2004, 08:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Oldsoul3300:
--I seem to remember Chiklis being quite funny (and dramatic) on The Commish. I haven't seen The Shield, so I can't comment.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, OldSoul, you're quite right. Chiklis does have a great sense of humor, despite the character he is now playing on "The Shield". He was in an early episode of "Seinfeld" many years back, he played a guy who barely knows Jerry and he winds up going out one night with Kramer, coming back drunk and stupid. He CAN be called upon to be very funny. I STILL prefer Gandolfini over them all, but if Chiklis is to get the role, I don't think that's a bad thing.

04-13-2004, 09:44 AM

The not quite latest news it that Christina Milian is rumoured to be up for Sue. Now that is ridiculous casting if i ever heard some. Especially when there are plenty of blonde actresses around. Why go for someone who is so unlike the character? And to try to cast Paul Walker alongside her as her brother? Come on!

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04-13-2004, 09:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BigKid: HMMMMMM......... who COULD he be being tabbed to play? I know that the rumor is that Tim Robbins is being considered for Doom, but this guy might be the better choice, even for this role. I don't think he's quite the actor that, say, GEOFFERY RUSH is (!). But, maybe they like him for Doom? Or could it be that they are bringing him in for Wyat Wingfoot?? What do you all think.........Please, SHARE!
(Let's REALLY chat this one up, peeps! This forum's been just a tad TOO slow recently)!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This can go here for the time being.

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CoolManWells

04-13-2004, 02:15 PM

Here's what they should be......

Reed Richards- George Clooney
Sue Storm- Nicole Kidman
Johnny Storm- Justin Whalin
Ben Grimm- Michael Clarke Duncan
Dr. Doom- anyone big enough to fill the suit
VOICE OF Dr. Doom- James Earl Jones

REASONING
George Clooney as Reed Richards
You'd have to be crazy to not pickl Clooney to play Reed. The resemblance between the two is unbelievable. I know that he wasn't the greatest as the Dark Knight, but he would be awesome as Reed.

Nicole Kidman as Sue Storm
I've seen people put up ladies such as Charlize Theoron and young chicks like that, but that wouldn't work since she has to end up marrying Reed. I think Nicole is an Incredible actress and I could see her with the Reed character, whether or not he be Clooney.

Justin Whalin as Johnny Storm
He's been laying low for a while, but he'd still be great. He was Jimmy Olsen on TV's Lois and Clark, so he's no stranger to the heroes. Also, he has a boyish look with a sorta hero personality, which is what I think they should shoot for when they cast.

Dr. Doom
I don't really think it matters who they choose for him, because you never see him, but he needs to be pretty big. Probably about Shaq's size, but they won't want to pay too much for someone who you never see.

James Earl Jones as THE VOICE OF Dr. Doom
He delivered as Darth Vader, and I think he could do it again.

Bigkid

04-14-2004, 04:03 PM

I'm sort of wondering why you didn't mention the reasoning behind casting Michael Clarke Duncan in the role of Ben? Is it because he's a huge guy?? Remember, Ben was supposed to be a college wrestling champ before he went into the air force, so where I think it IS important to cast someone with really good size (my first pick being James Gandolfini), I don't think you have to necessarily go for someone who's TWICE the size of the character from the comics. I know I've said in the past that the rumored choice, Michael Chiklis, would be alright with me, but Chiklis is of medium height and build (from what I see of him anyway). But in the case of Chiklis, I think you could get away with him, because the first maybe half-hour to 40 minutes of the film, you need a flesh and blood actor to play Ben, and THEN for the remainder of the film, it's going to undeniably be CGI for The Thing. So I think in the case of casting Ben, I think you need someone who's in the realm of six feet to six feet four; in MCD's case, that guy's GOT to be like six six, and maybe closer to three hundred pounds.......WAYY to big for Ben BEFORE the transformation. So I wouldn't go for him.

Now in the case of your other choices, I would agree with you that Nicole Kidman is a terrific actress, but I don't think that there is any way that they are going to be able to get her for the role of Sue. I've said in the past, even though I would like Charlize Theron, I believe that since she's won her Oscar, she might pass on this if offered to her; I just think she's going to have a LOT of scripts sent her way, and I don't know if this one would really interest her. I've been shouting out for Clooney for the LONGEST time for the role of Reed, so I'm in agreement there with you on that choice. I don't know this guy Scot (something) that you mentioned for Johnny, but I'm partial to Nick Stahl (John Conner in the last "Terminator" film). As for Doom, I don't think that you just put a big dude in an iron costume and say "that's him". I think you need just as good an actor in that suit as any of them. I've been saying Geoffery Rush FOREVER, and I'd still go with him.......even though there are lot's of you who like Gary Oldman for the role.

Well, that's MY 2 cents....... so PLEASE, everyone..... SHARE your thoughts!

CoolManWells

04-15-2004, 12:03 PM

i wuz just saying that it would be a waste for them to get an expensive actor such as rush for a character you never see. also, i never really thought about your point about ben. i was just thinkin about cuz he's the size of the thing, but i never really thought about Ben as a person. a good person for him would even maybe be dean cain. oh, and for JUSTIN WHALIN as johnny, look him up on yahoo, you shouldnt have a problem findin a good pic.

Bigkid

04-19-2004, 12:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by CoolManWells:
i wuz just saying that it would be a waste for them to get an expensive actor such as rush for a character you never see. also, i never really thought about your point about ben. i was just thinkin about cuz he's the size of the thing, but i never really thought about Ben as a person. a good person for him would even maybe be dean cain. oh, and for JUSTIN WHALIN as johnny, look him up on yahoo, you shouldnt have a problem findin a good pic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

To THECOOLONE!
Yes, Ben MUST be thought of as more than just a big hunk of talking rock! There's SO much more going on there. The very fact that he's the pilot of the ill fated mission says alot! You need someone with smarts to be able to be an astronaut pilot. As for Justin Whalen, good suggestion. I'll go take a look, do a "google" search and see what comes up.

Bigkid

04-19-2004, 12:35 PM

I had another really good casting thought, by the way. If they wind up NOT going for Charlize Theron, Naomi Watts, etc., I thought of someone that I don't think many people have given thought to (actually, 2 actresses that I haven't seen mentioned on here or on any other message boards where this is concerned). Either:
A). Mary McCormick (she played Howard Stern's wife Allison in "Private Parts")
B). Maria Bello ("The Cooler").

Both actresses are EXTREMELY underrated AND sexy...... they are both at a really good age; they can be cast as the Invisible WOMAN, and are still young and beautiful enough to satisfy the viewing male audience. Plus, women in general would like them because they are not only beautiful, but very savvy and sharp actresses. I think these ladies could really do it. They'd also be extremely affordable! How about it, anyone ELSE care to opine on these 2? SHARE!

Bigkid

04-21-2004, 08:40 AM

Since the thread was closed, I guess I can ask this here, instead. But: Does anybody have any inkling as to what Ralf Moeller is doing in this flick? What part he's been tabbed for? Could it actually be for the role of Doom, perhaps?? Any thoughts? Please.......SHARE!

bottleHeD

04-27-2004, 02:10 PM

ben.. maybe??

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04-27-2004, 06:17 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by bottleHeD:
ben.. maybe??

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That's got to be worse than Michael Clark Duncan as Ben. Now Ben has to sound like Conan?

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Bigkid

04-28-2004, 12:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
 That's got to be worse than Michael Clark Duncan as Ben. Now Ben has to sound like Conan?

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Yeah, I can't think that they are actually going to cast HIM in the role, but... you never know, you know! Weirder casting decisions have been made over the years in different films, and Ralf Moeller COULD join that bunch. I'm trying to think about WHICH villains OTHER than Doom that they can bring into this that would make sense. I mean, we already KNOW that Doom is in the film, but who could some of the OTHER FF baddies be that they might decide to stick in? Anybody got some suggestions? Please......SHARE!

MarcoPolo

04-28-2004, 09:15 AM

They could use "The Mole Man" he was actually one of the first villian to go up against the Fantastic Four. He could summon his beasts from his Monster Island (A La Jurassic Park) and the Fantastic Four would have to battle them in the city. It happend in the comics and could translate well to film. Just think if they used the same FX they did for "Godzilla"(The new one), it would be kinda cool to see the human "Torch" flying around shooting flames and sh#*t at the monsters while "Thing" is throwing cars at em', and the Invisible girl could be umm...Invisible. You get where I'm going with this right? I would actually prefer not to see Doom in the first flick.

MarcoPolo

04-28-2004, 09:17 AM

Especially if he's gonna be played by Tim Robins..

MarcoPolo

04-28-2004, 09:31 AM

..And I would deffinately suggest that Danny Devito play "Mole Man", if it were to happen.

Bigkid

04-28-2004, 09:54 AM

Somebody from these boards had suggested a while back that Dustin Hoffman should play Mole Man. I thought that was a really GREAT choice! Danny Devito..... I don't know. Size wise, I completely understand it, but remember: He's also played The Penguin, and I don't know if he'd want to play another comic book villain. I was wondering, when reading your posts, Marco, why you weren't too keen on seeing Dr. Doom in the film? He's their first and BEST nemesis. Was just wondering. SHARE!

MarcoPolo

04-28-2004, 10:23 AM

Actually I do prefer The Doom character in the comics, and I would like to see him in a sequel, but the first villian was in fact "Mole Man". In a sequel you could spend more time developing a great villian like Doom. I would hate to see his backstory rushed for the sake of trying to fit it into a small time frame. The first film should be mainly devoted to the creation of the Fantastic Four, and their rise to hero status. The Fantastic Four need to be heroes of the city, and not viewed as freaks. So what better way then having them battle off these large, ugly monsters in the middle of the city, in front of News crews broadcasting the whole event. They should be the one's with the amazing powers that will make an audience "ouu" and "awe" and leave a stronger foe like Doom for the sequel..This would leave the fans wanting more.

05-01-2004, 09:30 AM

I really don't think the Moleman should be the first villain at all for the movies. It just wouldn't sell well. Dr Doom might not be the first, but he is the premier villain not only for the FF, but for the whole Marvel Universe. If the first FF movie with Moleman flops, you might never even see Doom anyway, which would be intolerable. Imagine if the first X-Men movie didn't have Magneto, but had them fighting, say, the Blob instead, just because Magneto's character needs more developing. What kind of a movie would that be, and would it be successful?

I don't see the Moleman being a major villain for the FF until a few movies down the line. But that said, feel free to cast him - only maybe start up another thread for future FF movie villains, as this is the main casting thread for the first movie, which will have Doom.

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norrinraad

05-01-2004, 01:22 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
I really don't think the Moleman should be the first villain at all for the movies. It just wouldn't sell well. Dr Doom might not be the first, but he is the premier villain not only for the FF, but for the whole Marvel Universe. If the first FF movie with Moleman flops, you might never even see Doom anyway, which would be intolerable. Imagine if the first X-Men movie didn't have Magneto, but had them fighting, say, the Blob instead, just because Magneto's character needs more developing. What kind of a movie would that be, and would it be successful?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I feel the same way. Dr Doom is to the Fantastic Four what Green Goblin is to Spider-Man, Bullseye is to Daredevil, Lex Luthor is to Superman, Joker is to Batman, etc etc. In order to get the franchise off to a good start and guarantee some box office, we need a majestic, larger-than-life villain to capture an audience's fancy.

MarcoPolo does have a point about it being criminal to try and rush through Doom's origin, but I think it can be done properly in a franchise starter. Let's face it, the origin of the Fantastic Four is not the most complicated one in comics history. Family of space explorers gets bombarded by cosmic rays, gains fantastic powers. Even an update for modern audiences could be kept relatively simple, unlike Spider-Man, whose everyman qualities had to be established in order for the character to be relateable. If necessary it could even be done in flashback. The first Blade film started out with the character already firmly established in his universe and filled in the blanks as the movie progressed. The Blade sequel summarized his origin during the opening credits. Both approaches were effective and could be copied or combined for the FF so more attention could be paid to Doom, who really is more interesting than any individual FF member. Besides, I can only imagine how awesome that armour is going to look on the big screen!

Bigkid

05-01-2004, 02:30 PM

Yes, I quite agree with the bulk of you that want Doom in the first film. He without a doubt IS the most identifiable villain in connection with The Fantastic Four. However, in the second Batman film, they were indeed able to bring in both Catwoman and The Penguin, so there is a chance THAT could be done as well. But then again, I'm sure that this would have to be a 3+ hour film then in oder to get ALL of that in. I believe that the film would be best served with Doom as the first adversary.

Bigkid

05-01-2004, 02:34 PM

ANOTHER INSPIRED PIECE OF CASTING!

How about......for Sue (I MUST be boring the HELL out of you all already)! But I just recently saw "Man on Fire". And I have to tell you, I really LOVED Rhada Mitchell. She plays Dakota Fanning's mother in this film. I was sitting there watching her and thinking, "This woman's going to be a really big star, if not a very BUSY actress in the next couple of years". Why not jump on getting her to play Sue Storm? I think she'd be perfect for it. Beauty, a sense of inate intelligence, nice acting chops. I think she's somebody that maybe might even being thought of behind closed casting doors as we read these posts! What do you all think? SHARE!

05-02-2004, 07:00 PM

Does anyone suppose Ben Grimm might sound teddy-bearish like Louis Armstrong?

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Bigkid

05-03-2004, 04:22 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
Does anyone suppose Ben Grimm might sound teddy-bearish like Louis Armstrong?

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WELSHY!
To get what I feel is the "definitive" sounding Ben Grimm, you have to watch the old Fantastic Four animated series from the sixties, that was done by Hanna-Barbera (hope I spelled that LAST name right). The actor that voiced Ben in that series was PERFECT. I can't remember the actor's name, but he also voiced the character "Berger Meister Meister Burger", in the Rankin/Bass production of "Santa Claus is comin to town".
That man had the perfect sound AND attitude that I always found attributable to what Ben/The Thing would sound like. Now that you mention it, there WAS a sort of "teddy-bearish" quality to the man, so, yes, if it's along the lines of "Sachmo", then I agree with you! By the way.......anyone have any comment at all about my thinking of Rhada Mitchell for the role of Sue? Please....... SHARE!

05-04-2004, 08:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
 WELSHY!
To get what I feel is the "definitive" sounding Ben Grimm, you have to watch the old Fantastic Four animated series from the sixties, that was done by Hanna-Barbera (hope I spelled that LAST name right). The actor that voiced Ben in that series was PERFECT. I can't remember the actor's name, but he also voiced the character "Berger Meister Meister Burger", in the Rankin/Bass production of "Santa Claus is comin to town".
That man had the perfect sound AND attitude that I always found attributable to what Ben/The Thing would sound like. Now that you mention it, there WAS a sort of "teddy-bearish" quality to the man, so, yes, if it's along the lines of "Sachmo", then I agree with you! By the way.......anyone have any comment at all about my thinking of Rhada Mitchell for the role of Sue? Please....... SHARE!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I remember the cartoon, but I can't off hand remember Ben's voice. But couldn't you imagine Ben singing a song by Louis Armstrong, maybe in bitter irony at his lonely predicament as a "monster"? :

"I see trees of green, red roses too
I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world

I see skies of blue and clouds of white
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world

The colours of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shakin' hands, sayin' "How do you do?"
They're really saying "I love you"

I hear babies cryin', I watch them grow
They'll learn much more than I'll ever know
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Yes, I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Oh yeah"

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Bigkid

05-04-2004, 10:31 AM

Hmmmmmmm..... an interesting observation, but one that, unfortunately I think, would elicit unwanted laughter from the audience. To see a BIG, ORANGE-BRICKED character (in CGI, no less), doing a Louis "Sachmo" Armstrong number. I don't know. I like the sentiment of it, but maybe have the song playing in the background with Ben sitting somewhere (like in a lonely, darkened lab), while that song is playing? That might bring about more of a feeling of emphathy rather than laughter.

Bigkid

05-04-2004, 10:37 AM

Ok, this past weekend, I got to see on cable "Hollywood Homicide", and Bruce Greenwood was in it, playing a vengeful, Harrison Ford-hating Internal Affairs cop. This guy's a terrific actor, and from what I've seen of him before, I think he'd be a really strong choice for the role of Reed. Other's here have opined this in the past, and I just want to say that I think it's a really great choice. Clooney has always been my number one choice, and Greenwood has always been what I've considered my plan "B", but I think I can safely say..... that I will think long and hard about wanting him as my #1 choice. I mean, I do believe that he'd be a heluva lot more affordable than Clooney, and to be really honest, he's a MUCH better actor......but I've still got to give it a lot of a longer, harder look. But I wouldn't have ANY problem if they decided to go with him as Reed. By the way......anyone want to opine AT ALL........ about my choice for Rhada Mitchell as Sue? C'MOOOON........SHARE!

05-04-2004, 11:44 AM

I can't say I've actually seen this Rada Mitchell before. Where did she go to acting school? http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif

I would imagine Ben sitting in a park or somewhere in the city rather than in a darkened lab while that Louis Armstrong piece is playing in the background. It would just highlight the contrast more for the audience, showing Ben seeing other people being happy, while he's doomed (did someone say Doom?) to be a big orange teddy bear.

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Bigkid

05-04-2004, 02:06 PM

Rhada Mitchell, I don't think, went to acting school with Jude Law...... you might want to ask him if he knows of her work! ;-)

If you haven't seen "Man on Fire" as yet, that's where you should check her out. I think you may fancy her for the role of Sue, Welshy! As for the suggestion for Ben, yeah, that might be a nice idea, but I'm a little leery to begin with as to how they are going to go about dealing with Ben in the first place...... not make it too tounge in cheek, you know? In the comics it was one thing to have him be this wise-cracking, sort of blue (now orange collared), character...... but how to have sort of sentimental moments with him in mind for scenes such as what you described........ it might be a tough thing to work out. I'm sure that they will have SOMETHING similar to your suggestion, but it's gotta be pulled off JUST right, or I'm afraid of unintentional howls of laughter from the audience.

MarcoPolo

05-04-2004, 02:49 PM

I am looking forward to this flick myself, but am worried that in the end some of the characters or scenes will just look too silly and not work well on film. I'm actually speaking about "Thing" and "Mr. Fantastic" in particular. How can you make it believable that people wouldn't be totally freaked out by a big dude made of orange stone, and how can you take a scientist seriously when his body parts keep stretching everywhere. The whole film is gonna have to be very "tongue-and-cheek" which is why I think we need George Clooney. He's perfect, just think he can play a very intelligent and seriouse character like he did in ER, or be kinda silly like he was in "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" and "Intollerable Cruelty". I think if they go with Tim Robbins for Reed it will be brutal. Tim Robbins is too silly and I can't see him in the part, nor that of Doom...God I hope this is all just rumors!! Whoever plays "Thing" is gonna have to have the right witty personality and voice for the part or that won't work either.

Bigkid

05-05-2004, 07:45 AM

I, personally, DO NOT want this film to be done PURPOSELY tounge-in-cheek. If certain scences in the film wind up BECOMING that way, it's different than the whole film projecting to BE that way. There's a difference. I can do with a few scenes that are like the one's in Spider-Man, like when Aunt May tell's Peter, "You aren't Superman, you know", and Toby Maguire does a double take into the camera. That is something I could deal with..... maybe even Johnny Storm sitting there reading a copy of Sub-Mariner, or something like that. Something that we fans of the comic will probably get..... but to do it with full blown tounge in cheek intent, that wouldn't be for me. But I do agree with you that Clooney should be playing Reed. He's my first choice as well.
Followed closely by Bruce Greenwood, of course!

Bigkid

05-05-2004, 07:47 AM

By the way, from what I read yesterday on these very pages....... we should get confirmation of casting choices within the next TWO WEEKS........so all this speculation should be coming to a close soon......... and all the complaining of the casting choices to follow soon THEREAFTER!

MarcoPolo

05-05-2004, 08:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
I, personally, DO NOT want this film to be done PURPOSELY tounge-in-cheek. If certain scences in the film wind up BECOMING that way, it's different than the whole film projecting to BE that way. There's a difference. I can do with a few scenes that are like the one's in Spider-Man, like when Aunt May tell's Peter, "You aren't Superman, you know", and Toby Maguire does a double take into the camera. That is something I could deal with..... maybe even Johnny Storm sitting there reading a copy of Sub-Mariner, or something like that. Something that we fans of the comic will probably get..... but to do it with full blown tounge in cheek intent, that wouldn't be for me. But I do agree with you that Clooney should be playing Reed. He's my first choice as well.
Followed closely by Bruce Greenwood, of course!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

When I say "tongue and cheek" I mean that in the very same way you just described. Kinda like the "What, would you prefer yellow and blue spandex?" Cyclops quote. They are really gonna have to go the extra mile when writting this movie and make it pretty witty and as believable as can be. Some small changes are gonna have to take place too, like maybe Ben will be wearing a suit that covers most of his body while in public, so as not to scare people. How they will explain Reed's clothes stretching ability is unclear to me, but let's hope they don't go the way of "Hulk" and just have it magically grow and shrink...

05-05-2004, 09:24 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
When I say "tongue and cheek" I mean that in the very same way you just described. Kinda like the "What, would you prefer yellow and blue spandex?" Cyclops quote. They are really gonna have to go the extra mile when writting this movie and make it pretty witty and as believable as can be. Some small changes are gonna have to take place too, like maybe Ben will be wearing a suit that covers most of his body while in public, so as not to scare people. How they will explain Reed's clothes stretching ability is unclear to me, but let's hope they don't go the way of "Hulk" and just have it magically grow and shrink... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's a simple one. Have you forgotten that Reed discovered unstable molecules? That's what they use to make all their clothes - there have even been various storylines revolving around people attempting to exploit it, and questioning why Reed has never patented the invention.

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MarcoPolo

05-05-2004, 12:14 PM

Ahh yes, how could I have forgot!?!..Maybe it's cause' is been 20 years since I've read an issue of FF'..

Bigkid

05-05-2004, 04:48 PM

Even if the writer's of this film DON'T use the term "unstable molecules", it's a certain bet that they will find a way for Reed Richards, scientist extroardinare, to come up with SOME sort of an explanation for creating his clothes to stretch along with his limbs. Hey, who knows.......they may even decide to have him RIP UP a few clothes throughout the film...... and come up with something towards the end of the film. In the comics, the earliest versions of The FF, Ben always walked around with an oversized overcoat and a fedora with a WIDE BRIM pulled down tight. So they might try pulling that costume design out of mothballs for this film.

MarcoPolo

05-06-2004, 08:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
Even if the writer's of this film DON'T use the term "unstable molecules", it's a certain bet that they will find a way for Reed Richards, scientist extroardinare, to come up with SOME sort of an explanation for creating his clothes to stretch along with his limbs. Hey, who knows.......they may even decide to have him RIP UP a few clothes throughout the film...... and come up with something towards the end of the film. In the comics, the earliest versions of The FF, Ben always walked around with an oversized overcoat and a fedora with a WIDE BRIM pulled down tight. So they might try pulling that costume design out of mothballs for this film.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good thinking! However let's not forget that Eric Banner was a scientist too but that didn't help him much. Ang Lee obviously didn't think the way you do.Hahahaha!

05-06-2004, 09:17 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
Good thinking! However let's not forget that Eric Banner was a scientist too but that didn't help him much. Ang Lee obviously didn't think the way you do.Hahahaha!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Eric Bana's no scientist - he's that Australian actor - you know, the one who played in the Hulk movie! As for Bruce (my "real" surname rhymes with Battlecat's alter ego) Banner, well he supposedly has never heard of Reed Richards. No-one in these Marvel movies seem to have heard of any other heroes in fact.

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05-06-2004, 09:20 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
Rhada Mitchell, I don't think, went to acting school with Jude Law...... you might want to ask him if he knows of her work! ;-)

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I think that joke went over your head. I purposely spelt her name "RADA" Mitchell, while asking where she went to acting school, as a reference to the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art (RADA), where many great actors are supposed to have studied.

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MarcoPolo

05-06-2004, 02:08 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
 Eric Bana's no scientist - he's that Australian actor - you know, the one who played in the Hulk movie! As for Bruce (my "real" surname rhymes with Battlecat's alter ego) Banner, well he supposedly has never heard of Reed Richards. No-one in these Marvel movies seem to have heard of any other heroes in fact.

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Sorry dude "Bruce Banner" is what I meant..I knew that actually. It's just that I write all this stuff while at work and some times I need to rush it..There are spies about!

Bigkid

05-10-2004, 03:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
 I think that joke went over your head. I purposely spelt her name "RADA" Mitchell, while asking where she went to acting school, as a reference to the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art (RADA), where many great actors are supposed to have studied.

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WELSHY!
Ummmm...... yes, I have to admit..... it not only went over my head, it ZOOMED over and disappeared completely! But after reading it and your explanation, I did indeed start laughing out loud (LOL)! Very clever and witty, oh crafty feline!

05-11-2004, 07:58 AM

Well, the latest piece of news is that actor Cliff Curtis (Collateral Damage) has tried out for some role. The link is here:
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=7101

I honestly can't see which role he could play. He doesn't look remotely like Reed, Ben, Johnny, Sue or even Doom. And he certainly can't pass for a 5 year old if they're casting Franklin. Nor could he fit the role of Alicia. Well, whoever he is, I hope it's not one of those main roles, otherwise between him, MCD as Ben, and Christina Milian as Sue (who would look more like Ben's sister), this is going to be worse than the earlier FF film in the early 1990s.

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Bigkid

05-11-2004, 08:58 AM

Anybody else read today's "scoop"?

Supposedly, actor Cliff Curtis (he played Keisha-Castle Hughes' father in "Whale Rider"), was spotted going into the casting offices for The Fantastic Four. Nobody, of course, know's who he was reading for, but I'll tell you this: even though I feel this guy's an AMAZING actor, I don't know if bringing him in for either Reed or Ben is a good casting idea. CERTAINLY not a good idea if thinking about casting Johnny! I really think this guy is a brilliant actor, but unless the spin on this now is that they are going to make this a multi-ethnic cast (remember, Christian Milian was being thought of for the role of Sue), I don't know if this is the right way to go. But, we'll just have to wait and see just WHO it was that he auditioned for in the first place. He might have actually been going in for the role of Doom, which, to be honest? I think he's a sensational actor, and he'd probably do a better job in the role of Doom than in the role of Reed Richards.

05-11-2004, 01:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
Anybody else read today's "scoop"? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me, me. I haven't! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/rolleyes.gif ... even though I posted more or less the same thing above you ! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/wink.gif See above for my views on this subject.

The latest news actually is that the FF film might go the Ultimates route. Can't say I'm pleased about this - a teeny-bopperish FF. It might end up like the Thunderbirds movie. Blasted Ultimates - sometimes I wish Marvel never introduced this phenomenon. At least there would be just one cannonical version and not apparently two. Bah! I don't even consider the Ultimates cannon anyway.

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Bigkid

05-11-2004, 09:27 PM

I never, ever did read the Ultimates version of this title, and I guess I'm just a little too old for it, because I feel as Welshcat does. I remember the classic version of The Fantastic Four, and I'd like to see that one on screen. There just seems to be this desire to please kids all the time, it seems. For whatever reason, they seem to think THIS version of the FF is something that should attract a younger following. And yet, maybe I'm being a bit harsh though. Maybe I should just give a peek at The Ultimates' version of the FF and THEN make a decision. But, if they are talking about having Cliff Curtis come in to read for one of the MAIN characters, then I would think that something IS smelling a little fishy, quite honestly. If he's auditioning maybe for a character that they are writing in, a military guy, someone in NASA, something like that, I have no problem. Like I've already stated: The man's a terrific actor. But for one of the actual male's of the FF or for even Victor Von (or is it going to be "Van Damme")? I can't see it.

Bigkid

05-12-2004, 03:22 PM

Just read the latest rumor type stuff about casting...... Michael Chiklis seems to have been interviewed for the role of The Thing. But I think it may come down to his schedule, he might not be able to do it, although he said that it would be fun to play the character. And there seem's to be some rumblings as to whether Julia Stiles might be being in negotiations for the role of Sue. I wouldn't mind THAT casting, at all, quite honestly. Although I would like to think that an older actress would have the inside track on that part, actually. But, considering that they maybe going the route of the "Ultimates" version, I think they just might opt for a younger Sue.....and Julia Stiles certainly could be a top candidate.

05-17-2004, 07:42 AM

Dr Doom better not be Van Damme in the FF movie. I do NOT want to see him doing any kick boxing on Reed or Ben. I don't want to see any Double Impact plotlines seeping into this, with Doom and Doombot teaming up to battle the FF. Nor do I want to see any echoes of Timecop as Van Damme tries to use the Doom Timecube to rescue his mother.

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Bigkid

05-17-2004, 12:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
Dr Doom better not be Van Damme in the FF movie. I do NOT want to see him doing any kick boxing on Reed or Ben. I don't want to see any Double Impact plotlines seeping into this, with Doom and Doombot teaming up to battle the FF. Nor do I want to see any echoes of Timecop as Van Damme tries to use the Doom Timecube to rescue his mother.

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WELSHY!
THAT TIME....... it didn't go over my head! Very funny, sir! However, I would like to see Victor Von have a nice one-on-one against Ben, that would be great! Would LOVE to watch Sue Storm have an affair with Namor.... OOOPS, wait a minute.........WRONG FILM! He's getting his own flick anyway!

05-24-2004, 11:28 AM

Any other Sachmo numbers that Ben Grimm could perform in a FF movie apart from What A Wonderful World?

How about "We have all the time in the World" (for when Ben is with Alicia)? Or "On the Sunny Side of the Street" (perhaps a reference to Yancy Street)? Or "I'm Just A Lucky So-and-So" (another ironic reference to Ben's predicament)? Or maybe "St James's Infirmary" (after Ben visits a dead member of the Yancy Street Gang)?

Any of these suggestions sound appealing?

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Bigkid

05-25-2004, 10:28 AM

I, personally, dig the "On the sunny side of the street" referrance. Simply because it touches me personally! That would be VERY nice, watching Ben singing that, jumping into the air, clicking his heels together.......very sweet, touching, and all that rot!

There was SUPPOSED to be some sort of information about the casting, but I haven't seen anything reported as yet! Anybody hear of ANY latest casting rumors......or truths.....that they'd like to Please.....SHARE....... with me (us)??

MarcoPolo

05-25-2004, 10:49 AM

Personally, I don't want to see any song and dance numbers performed by Ben in the movie. I think it would look cheesy and make audiences cringe. But that's just me..

Bigkid

05-26-2004, 07:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
Personally, I don't want to see any song and dance numbers performed by Ben in the movie. I think it would look cheesy and make audiences cringe. But that's just me..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

MP!
Check the accompanying icon at the top of this reply, and that will tell the story about what Welshy and I have been doing!

05-26-2004, 01:27 PM

The latest news is that Brendan Fraser is in the running for the role of Reed Richards. Check out the link below:
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=7389

I have to say that I really don't like him as a potential candidate for the role. He doesn't seem intelligent or seasoned enough to be believable as a scientist, but more of a musclebound action star. What's more, I can't see that he physically suits the part of Reed. No! Even George Clooney, whom I dislike in the role, would be a better choice.

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05-26-2004, 01:31 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Originally posted by BigKid: Has anybody else seen this today? I might get this particular thread closed [It was - WC] because it maybe considered something for the "Fantastic Four Casting" thread [ It is - WC] but I just wanted to get some feelings from you all. The casting notice (from where it comes from, I don't remember), is looking for ....."Victors"...... and "Sues".... Victor is described as in his 30's, devious, European, and likes to play little mind games with people (I'm not quoting verbatum).
The casting call for Sue is "in her 20's, a lead role, and she's hot". HOO BOY! I can only wonder just WHO'S going to show up at these auditions! I wish I knew how to post the link that this is connected to, but I can't. If there are those of you who've read this casting notice already on these pages, Please......SHARE.... with us your thoughts on this and on what you thought of the way they did the character breakdowns! Oh, and, apparently, people can auditon themselves! YOOOWWWWW!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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MarcoPolo

05-26-2004, 03:27 PM

neil14

05-26-2004, 03:45 PM

hey all,

I just looked at the headlines on the side and they mentioned that IB-whatever is looking for Doom and Susan. they want Doom to be a 30-something European billionaire who plays with others' lives while Susan is dedicated, hot and sexy(or whatever the requirements are)and 20ish. I heard Jessica
Simpson was a possiblity (I did mention in another thread that her father confirmed that she will be Daisy Duke in the DOH movie next year.)I was, for whatever reason thinking maybe Alyson Hannigan,(dye her hair blonde)or Brooke Burns and for Doom, I know he's not exactly 30ish, but Alan Rickman comes to mind. anyway, looking forward to seeing it next year.

05-26-2004, 04:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
 Well Welsh, I am gonna agree with you for once. Brendan does not fit the part of Reed at all.

Nuff said'.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What? We usually agree on things... apart from Katie Holmes being nude.

Neil, if Alysson Hannigan got the part of Sue, I shall NOT watch this film. I cannot stand that actress. I can't stand her Willow character in Buffy. I don't even like the fact she is playing Meg Ryan's part (with her regular hair though) in a "When Harry Met Sally" play in London's West End along with Luke Perry. Ms Hannigan is totally unsuitable for Sue, as much as Brendan Fraser is for Reed.

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Bigkid

05-26-2004, 07:18 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
The latest news is that Brendan Fraser is in the running for the role of Reed Richards. Check out the link below:
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=7389

I have to say that I really don't like him as a potential candidate for the role. He doesn't seem intelligent or seasoned enough to be believable as a scientist, but more of a musclebound action star. What's more, I can't see that he physically suits the part of Reed. No! Even George Clooney, whom I dislike in the role, would be a better choice.

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WELSHY!
I agree with you as well. I think that Fraser, who is not a bad actor (look at his performance in God's and Monsters, although that film was more Sir Ian's), is COMPLETELY unsuitable for the role of Reed Richards. He would be, in my opinion, someone who would be coming off as if he was ACTING intelligent, as opposed to BEING intelligent..... being intelligent along the lines of a top-notch scientist, that is. They say that he's in the running, and that other actors are as well. Personally, I think I'd have to take Cliff Curtis at this point, if Brendan Fraser is being touted as one of the front runners. I could live with the fact that Curtis looks way too ethnic for the role, as long as they don't take Fraser, who dosen't smack of intelligent scientist. Curtis is SUCH a good actor that I think he could make Richards POTENTIALLY more believable than Fraser.

05-27-2004, 07:42 PM

The latest news is that a) they definitely seem to be going an Ultimate route with the FF movie, and b) Kate Bosworth (along with Christina Milan and Julia Stiles) are in the running for Sue. Of the three choices, I'd prefer Kate Bosworth. While she is younger than Stiles, she has a more mature and elegant look about her, reminiscent of Charlize Theron. Christina Milan just looks wrong and is nothing like Sue. Julia Stiles looks way too young, even for Sue. But I have to say that Kate Bosworth can look a bit of an airheaded teenageer too. So I'm not really happy with any of those choices.

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MarcoPolo

05-28-2004, 09:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
The latest news is that a) they definitely seem to be going an Ultimate route with the FF movie, and b) Kate Bosworth (along with Christina Milan and Julia Stiles) are in the running for Sue. Of the three choices, I'd prefer Kate Bosworth. While she is younger than Stiles, she has a more mature and elegant look about her, reminiscent of Charlize Theron. Christina Milan just looks wrong and is nothing like Sue. Julia Stiles looks way too young, even for Sue. But I have to say that Kate Bosworth can look a bit of an airheaded teenageer too. So I'm not really happy with any of those choices.

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Well perhaps we don't disagree all that much. But I'm gonna' have to say that I do like the idea of Kate Bosworth playing Sue. She really looks the part and from what I've seen of her (which is very little), she seems like a decent actress.I don't mind the idea of Julia Stiles either, but that other chick Christina Milan would suck. I suppose if you don't like any of those candidates we could push for Katie Holmes(joke).

brokenstatue2001

05-29-2004, 12:31 AM

So here's the cast line up so far...
Mr. Fantastic- Brendan Fraser...for some strange reason, I can imagine it. Probably a mix between Rick from the Mummy movies and probably someone from his more serious roles.
Invisible Woman- Kate Bosworth...yes, I like it.
The Thing- Michael Chkilis...sounds good.
Human Torch- Paul Walker...I'm still not convinced. I personally think it should be someone younger, but, given the fact that everyone else is at least 30, I guess it could work.
Dr. Doom- ???...I'm not too thrilled about the idea of changing Doom from a mid-European evil tyrant to an evil businessman, hopefully they could change that.

05-29-2004, 10:27 AM

My newest casting suggestions for the FF are below, using the Mr Men characters:

Mr Fantastic: Mr Tickle
The Thing: Mr Strong
Invisible Woman: Little Miss Sunshine
The Human Torch.... er, don't know about this one. Perhaps Mr Rush? Or maybe Mr Rush should play Dr Doom if they don't manage to get Geoffrey.

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Bigkid

05-31-2004, 12:30 PM

Kate Bosworth as Sue? Hmmmmmmm....... I think she's just a little too young for the role. She's the surfer chick from "Blue Crush", no? If that's her, then she's WAYYY too young to play Sue. Julia Stiles would make a heluva lot more sense than Kate Bosworth. I've a feeling when the casting's all said and done, that I'm not going to be too particularly happy with the outcome of this. I mean, the last DECENT choice that I heard of (in my opinion, that is), would be Chiklis for Thing. But I also read something about how they read a guy named Bob .....what the hell was the dude's name?? He's supposed to be a real life fighter pilot or something..... very big dude, who supposedly acts and sounds like Ben Grimm. I've a funny feeling about this. Even though in the past I have stated that I should wait and see the final product... I don't know............

brokenstatue2001

05-31-2004, 01:03 PM

Nah, man. She was in Underworld and Van Helsing. She seems to be the right age to play Sue.
Who the hell's the chick from Blue Crush your talking about.

MarcoPolo

05-31-2004, 01:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by brokenstatue2001:
Nah, man. She was in Underworld and Van Helsing. She seems to be the right age to play Sue.
Who the hell's the chick from Blue Crush your talking about.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude!! What are YOU talking about? You are thinking of kate "Beckinsdale" not "Bosworth". Kate Bosworth is in "Win a Date with Tad Hamilton, and as stated before "Blue Crush". She a cute little blond chick who actually looks like Sue Storm. In response to your comment about "Beckinsdale", she's not the right age nor the right look (Black hair) for Sue.
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Bigkid

05-31-2004, 02:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
Dude!! What are YOU talking about? You are thinking of kate "Beckinsdale" not "Bosworth". Kate Bosworth is in "Win a Date with Tad Hamilton, and as stated before "Blue Crush". She a cute little blond chick who actually looks like Sue Storm. In response to your comment about "Beckinsdale", she's not the right age nor the right look (Black hair) for Sue.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

MP!
Thanks for clearing that all up! Oh, by the way: Is it Kate BekinSdale, or Bekindale? I can't remember right now which is the correct spelling. In any event, I think Kate Bosworth's just a little too young. The very fact that for such a long time there were SOOOO many of us that were of the opinion that Charlize Theron was the perfect choice for Sue, and then to go to the ultimate (no pun intended) extreme of Bosworth, well, I don't know. She gives away at LEAST a good 12 years to Theron. She looks TOO much like a teen ager other than an early twenty something. Personally, even though I quite agree with you, she's a sweet young thang...... she looks like she might be able to play the YOUNG Sue Storm, not the one who is marrying Reed Richards. I understand that The Ultimates version is where they are going with this, but from the little that I know of that book, Bosworth (to ME, anyway), dosen't even look like she could be THAT age to play Sue.

MarcoPolo

05-31-2004, 03:12 PM

Yeah, I too have never read the "Ultimates" Fantastic Four books(I guess we're old school), therefor I can't really say much about it, or it's characters. And by the way I think it's actually "Beckinsale". Funny though, it seems to be written differntly everywhere I look.

05-31-2004, 07:27 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
Oh, by the way: Is it Kate BekinSdale, or Bekindale? I can't remember right now which is the correct spelling. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Neither. It's Kate BECKINSALE. No D.

I understand that The Ultimates version is where they are going with this, but from the little that I know of that book, Bosworth (to ME, anyway), dosen't even look like she could be THAT age to play Sue.

I don't like this Ultimate route. It's not like it is the classic version that people have enjoyed all these years or come to know and love. It's just a new fad which only just came out recently, and which Marvel seem quite happy to jump on the bandwagon with and do everything in this mould. Of course, people might argue once it's made that the FF couldn't have been made any other way. But i'm sure people would've argued that if they didn't go with the classic version of Spidey's costume but did a new redesign. "Classic costume?" they'd say? "It could never have worked." Until of course someone goes and makes it.

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Bigkid

05-31-2004, 07:38 PM

Thanks much for clearing that spelling thing up for us, Welshy! I know what you mean: They are going for this fad thing with The Ultimates (although, quite honestly, as you know already, I've never read them). But like MarcoPolo wrote: I'm old school. So am I, and I'm assuming that goes for yourself as well. I guess Marvel is really trying to hitch their wagon onto the young generation's take on things. Oh, well, we'll just have to see what the rest of the casting is going to be like, and take it from there. But I'm starting to have some serious doubts about the whole thing now...........

05-31-2004, 08:37 PM

Another thing - if Kate Bosworth (or Julia Stiles) is Sue, and Paul Walker is Johnny, won't it work out that Johnny ends up as her older brother rather than younger? Because surely Walker is older than both actresses?

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brokenstatue2001

06-01-2004, 03:10 AM

Bigkid

06-01-2004, 09:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
Another thing - if Kate Bosworth (or Julia Stiles) is Sue, and Paul Walker is Johnny, won't it work out that Johnny ends up as her older brother rather than younger? Because surely Walker is older than both actresses?

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Right you are, Welshy! However, maybe they go for a complete unknown when they cast this. They seem to be going younger anyway, so maybe they decide to cast some 17,18 year old as Johnny. However, if you cast Julia Stiles, you still might be able to get away with getting Walker. Stiles is only 23, but I think that she can get away with being older. Walker ...... I don't know HOW old the dude is, but I think that Stiles could pass off as his older sis. But if they go with Bosworth...... I think THAT'S when they have to go with someone who's maybe an unknown and get a younger kid.

MarcoPolo

06-01-2004, 09:54 AM

Touché..

Bigkid

06-01-2004, 08:52 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
Touché..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

MP!
OH! Thank you!

Burton X. Lynch

06-02-2004, 02:36 PM

Paul Walker, am I the only one who feels this way, pisses me off. He's really dumb looking and sounding and can't really act. The only two movies I ever enjoyed that he was in were "Joy Ride", (not too much of an acting stretch) and "Pleasantville", (which he was only in for about, what, 15 minutes tops, and he was supposed to play a dumb jock). The rest was stupid crap.

Bigkid

06-02-2004, 02:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Burton X. Lynch:
Paul Walker, am I the only one who feels this way, pisses me off. He's really dumb looking and sounding and can't really act. The only two movies I ever enjoyed that he was in were "Joy Ride", (not too much of an acting stretch) and "Pleasantville", (which he was only in for about, what, 15 minutes tops, and he was supposed to play a dumb jock). The rest was stupid crap.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BURTON X!
I don't get a bad reaction to him such as yourself, but I could understand and see why he'd be thought of for the role of Johnny. He'll never be confused with Daniel Day-Lewis, for sure, but from the business standpoint of things...... he's young, got that cocky thing down, and he really does have sort of a resemblance to the comic Johnny Storm. But seeing as to how they are casting this thing, I think they are going to go in completely different circles of what most people have been suggesting here. For Johnny, such as what we've seen being clammored for: Paul Walker, Ryan Gossling, et al., I think we are all going to wind up being surprised as to who they really go with. I can't see Kate Bosworth in this role, she simply looks TOO young, even by the Ultimates standard that they are looking for. But, hey, that's show biz for ya!

bottleHeD

06-03-2004, 10:08 AM

How about Ryan Phillipe as Jonny Storm? He certainly looks like a young hotshot who'd fall for every chick in sight, and i bet he can act too!!

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06-03-2004, 01:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by bottleHeD:
How about Ryan Phillipe as Jonny Storm? He certainly looks like a young hotshot who'd fall for every chick in sight, and i bet he can act too!!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, we've said this before. And I've also mentioned Ryan Renolds as a cheaper alternative. But unfortunately I don't think the studio is paying any attention to this. All their casting seems a bit off so far as far as this movie is concerned. And don't get me started on their Ultimate approach to this franchise.

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bottleHeD

06-05-2004, 01:33 PM

Oh, i must have missed it then. I thought of this while watching Cruel Intentions. A little more jumpy and jocular, and the dude could be Johnny.
Anywez, i havent read the Ultimate FF comix yet, but if they're all considerably younger in it, then i dont think i wanna see that version on screen..

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brokenstatue2001

06-06-2004, 01:53 AM

I would appeciate it if the FF weren't a bunch of kids in the movie, but I think they might have to borrow the Ultimate FF origin for the movie. I mean, the original FF stole a rocket from a US military site and just jetted off to space to keep up with the Russians in the middle of the Cold War. They couldn't do that now. I, for one wouldn't mind a bit of "updating" the FF in that sense, but I think the rest of it should be fine.

Bigkid

06-07-2004, 06:31 PM

I just tried to hit the link that would take me to the story about how they are getting closer to casting someone in the Doom role. The actor's name is Jason Isaacs, which sounds familiar to me, but I can't picture the face. I guess I'll be having to do the "google" search thing! Does anyone here have an opinion on the choice for this role? SHARE!

06-07-2004, 06:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
I just tried to hit the link that would take me to the story about how they are getting closer to casting someone in the Doom role. The actor's name is Jason Isaacs, which sounds familiar to me, but I can't picture the face. I guess I'll be having to do the "google" search thing! Does anyone here have an opinion on the choice for this role? SHARE!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He's an English actor. He's played in films like the Tuxedo and some other stuff. He's been compared sometimes to Timothy Dalton physically. I'm not sure if I'd like him as Doom or not. But he'd be older than a teen-oriented FF cast. He's at least in his 40s I think. Hardly a young whippersnapping Reed's contemporary.

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Bigkid

06-08-2004, 11:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
 He's an English actor. He's played in films like the Tuxedo and some other stuff. He's been compared sometimes to Timothy Dalton physically. I'm not sure if I'd like him as Doom or not. But he'd be older than a teen-oriented FF cast. He's at least in his 40s I think. Hardly a young whippersnapping Reed's contemporary.

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WELSHY!
Yes, I did the google thing, and I saw a pic of him....... I've been going on about casting Geoffery Rush for some time now in this role, and I can see that they are going clearly the opposite direction of what I was thinking of. They want a more suave, sophisticated looking actor for the role. I read the character breakdown that was sent out for casting people, and just from looking at his picture, I think he embodies, just from that shot, what they want. I can't say that I'm really, like, "HEY! Great choice!" I'd have to see more of the man's work, but you're right: They are NOT looking for someone to be a contemporary of Reed in this film version. A little dissapointed with that idea, to be honest.

06-08-2004, 12:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
 WELSHY!
Yes, I did the google thing, and I saw a pic of him....... I've been going on about casting Geoffery Rush for some time now in this role, and I can see that they are going clearly the opposite direction of what I was thinking of. They want a more suave, sophisticated looking actor for the role. I read the character breakdown that was sent out for casting people, and just from looking at his picture, I think he embodies, just from that shot, what they want. I can't say that I'm really, like, "HEY! Great choice!" I'd have to see more of the man's work, but you're right: They are NOT looking for someone to be a contemporary of Reed in this film version. A little dissapointed with that idea, to be honest.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Although it's not like anyone would want to see a teen-Doom, in any event.

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MarcoPolo

06-08-2004, 12:32 PM

I've seen some of this guy "Jason Isaacs" work. He's a good actor, and plays bad guys well. I can easily see him as Doom, and have no quarrels with the choice. However, if they go with a young cast for the Fantastic Four, I will have a Sh#t. Reed is a Scientist with a little grey in his hair..NOT BRENDAN FRASER, OR ANYONE IN THAT AGE GROUP!!! Reed should be the same age as Doom if not a bit older.

brokenstatue2001

06-08-2004, 01:09 PM

Fraser is like in his mid 30's. If they go with Isaacs as Dr. Doom, they might go with someone in his age group. Hey, at least it's not Keanu Reeves, he's in his 40's now.

D.K.HOOD

06-08-2004, 02:22 PM

Take it from someone who has a little grey in his hair. You don't have to be over 30 to have it.

Bigkid

06-09-2004, 02:01 PM

Point well taken, D.K.! In fact, pre-mature grey can happen to somebody such as a brilliant YOUNG scientist who's embarking on creating something great for mankind. That will put the stress into ANYONE. But, personally, I for one would much more prefer to see an older Reed. It just makes more sense.

kidcomix

06-10-2004, 06:20 PM

Here's my casting choices for FF

Mr. Fantastic (Reed Richards): Richard Roxburgh (Moulin Rouge, Van Helsing)

Invisible Woman (Sue Richards): Peta Wilson (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, La Femme Nikita t.v. show)

Johnny Storm (Human Torch): Heath Ledger (The Order, The Patriot)

The Thing (Ben Grimm): CGI created. Voiced by Ray Liotta (GoodFellas)

06-14-2004, 12:31 PM

Apparently, Rachel McAdams (the Notebook, Mean Girls) is reading the FF script for an unspecified role. See the link below, and
the other one too for a picture:
http://superherohype.com/fantasticfour/index.php?id=1559
http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Drama/The_Notebook&image=notebook23.jpg&img=9&tt=

If she's playing Sue, I quite like the look of her, more than any of the other 3 candidates so far mentioned for the role.

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Bigkid

06-14-2004, 12:56 PM

She might also be reading for the role of Alicia Masters, as well, Welshy. Although, unless someone we know who comes onto this site has read the script, I guess there's no real way to know if Alicia is even going to be featured in the film. But I like her look as well. I could see, actually, how she'd be able to work as Sue. She looks mature enough and yet not TOO old to play Sue.

06-16-2004, 07:59 AM

Another potential contender for the role is mentioned in today's fan feed: Kadee Strickland: The link is below, as is another link to her picture:
http://superherohype.com/fantasticfour/index.php?id=1575

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0834380/

I like the look of her too. She, along with Rachel McAdams look the best contenders so far - not too old, not too young. And if they aren't all that well known, why not go with someone who isn't an overly huge star for Reed? I certainly DON'T want to see someone like Brendan Fraser as Reed.

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D.K.HOOD

06-16-2004, 08:16 AM

I hope its Rachel McAdams, now that her name has been mentioned. She's beautiful, yet doesn't exude sexiness unless she has to. She also has a little bit of innocence in her eyes that makes me think she would make a good Sue Storm. Plus, she's a good actress who will probably be a big name star in a few years, so they should get her NOW!

Bigkid

06-16-2004, 10:24 AM

I read that story from today's news about Kadee Strickland. I thought that they needed a better picture of her, to be honest, for me to get a better opinion of her for the role of Sue. I couldn't really tell from that pic. However, I really did like the thought of Rachel McAdam. I like her look as well, and, truth be told, I haven't seen "The Notebook" as yet, however, I've seen her in the trailers for it, and she looks to be a pretty darn good actress, from what I've seen of her. So I wouldn't have any problem with them casting her in the role of it comes down to her.

Bigkid

06-22-2004, 12:52 PM

Isn't there supposed to be news on the casting this week? It feel's like they've been saying this for the past month.....for EVERY week. I thought we were supposed to find out about casting about a month or so ago? It's getting somewhat tedious, you know? I mean, I understand that they want to GET IT RIGHT.....but it seems almost like they are not even sure themselves if they ARE right or not. I just hope we get to find out SOONER rather than LATER.

06-26-2004, 10:11 PM

Apparently Ioan Gruffodd may be up for a role in the FF movie. It's speculated he might be the Torch. Well, I have to say that although he is a Welshman, I can't really see him as Johnny Storm, even if he bleaches his hair. May be more like Reed, but I hope they don't go as young as him, even if they are following an ultimate route.

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06-27-2004, 09:28 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
I read that story from today's news about Kadee Strickland. I thought that they needed a better picture of her, to be honest, for me to get a better opinion of her for the role of Sue. I couldn't really tell from that pic. However, I really did like the thought of Rachel McAdam. I like her look as well, and, truth be told, I haven't seen "The Notebook" as yet, however, I've seen her in the trailers for it, and she looks to be a pretty darn good actress, from what I've seen of her. So I wouldn't have any problem with them casting her in the role of it comes down to her.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not sure how long this link will last on this messageboard, but here's a picture of Kadee Strickland. I think she definitely could look like Sue Storm, more so than Rachel McAdams, and she is certainly a pretty girl at that!
http://www.comicboards.com/fantasticfour/view.php?trd=040620065403

I've saved the photo, but don't know where it comes from or how to put it onto another site where this site can link up to.

And here's another link below to some other pictures of her:
http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?navtyp=GLS====41601&nbc1=1&str=&styp=&sfld=&PageNum=1&lg=Y

The one from the FF messageboard is really the best one of her though.
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Bigkid

06-28-2004, 12:59 PM

I saw the pics of Kadee Strickland that Welshy posted, and I must say, she DOES look like she'd make a great Sue Storm! Although, to be honest, I've yet to see either of these latest 2 rumored ladies (Rachel McAdam being the other), do anything. Although I've seen Rachel M. in some clips out of "The Notebook", I haven't seen that film as yet. I don't even know if I'm wanting to go see it, quite frankly. But I've thought of seeing it just to see what she's like, and if she'd be good for Sue. But from what I saw of her in the clips, and the terrific reviews she in particular has been getting (the New York Post said it's a "Star making turn" for her), she just might have to be the one they turn to. She'd bring a little more "oomph" to the role. I'd have to see Ms. Strickland in something first, however, before I make that final determination. Thanks for posting the pics of her WELSHY!

06-28-2004, 06:27 PM

Well, it looks like we may have a top contender for Reed, and it's not Brendan Fraser. Instead, it's Welshcat... er, Welshman Ioan Gruffodd.
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=7987

He played as Horatio Hornblower, so I guess he could make a decent Reed, even though he's a bit on the young side. But he might be okay against someone like Rachel McAdams or Kadee Strickland (who I hope gets the part of Sue now).

And notice in the green fan feed box in the top left hand corner it says: "Feeder: Welshcat". I think there's a nice Welsh theme in that article. Feeder is the name of a Welsh rock band, there's Welsh Ioan Gruffodd, then there's me! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif

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Bigkid

06-28-2004, 07:13 PM

I got to see that pic of Mr. Grufford, and I think that he indeed IS a better choice for Reed than for Johnny......however, he DOES seem a little TOO young to be playing Reed. I think that casting the main 4 as being somewhat younger (maybe for the exception of Ben, who I DO like the thought of being played by Michael Chiklis, if true), is still sort of sticking in my craw a bit. As for this guy Grufford as Reed? AHHH..... I don't know. By the way WELSHY........

How DO you pronounce this guy's name??! I was thinking it's "Loan"..... but then I thought, well, maybe it's supposed to be pronounced..... "Ian". Am I right? Please.......SHARE!

MarcoPolo

06-29-2004, 01:06 PM

Mr. Grufford is horrible for the part of Reed!!!
He's way to young, and I really hope they don't go for him. I would rather see him play Johnny but even that's a stretch(no punn intended).
Dear God, please don't let those evil "movie studio people" make another "Daredevilish" flop.

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06-29-2004, 04:43 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
Mr. Grufford is horrible for the part of Reed!!!
He's way to young, and I really hope they don't go for him. I would rather see him play Johnny but even that's a stretch(no punn intended).
Dear God, please don't let those evil "movie studio people" make another "Daredevilish" flop.

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Well it looks like Ioan Gruffudd may definitely have been cast as Reed, according to today's fan feed. Of course this could just be a rumour.
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=8020

I wouldn't say he's horrible for the part. If you look at his photos here below:
http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album20&id=Hollywood_Life_1200_ab
http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album20&id=07420319_Globe
http://www.ioanonline.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album20&id=2740766_G

... he does bear some resemblance to Reed and is more fitting than as Johnny. It's just that he's more british (Welsh) and a bit on the young side, but he doesn't always look too young. Although I have to say that at times he just looks like an older version of Tim Henman!

But what do you think of either Kadee Strickland or Rachel McAdams as Sue?

And Big Kid, it's pronounced Yo-Awn Griffith. And it's actually spelt Gruffudd (which is what I thought it was originally), not Gruffodd, as I keep seeing it spelt (and I began to spell it after being influenced). "dd" in Welsh is often pronounced like "th", as in Daffydd (Davuth/ Davith - Welsh equivalent of David).

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brokenstatue2001

06-29-2004, 10:17 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
And Big Kid, it's pronounced Yo-Awn Griffith. And it's actually spelt Gruffudd (which is what I thought it was originally), not Gruffodd, as I keep seeing it spelt (and I began to spell it after being influenced). "dd" in Welsh is often pronounced like "th", as in Daffydd (Davuth/ Davith - Welsh equivalent of David).

Man, you Welsh guys pronounciations are weird

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Bigkid

06-30-2004, 08:56 PM

Thank you for the correct pronunciation of that name, WELSHY! MAN! WHAT A MOUTHFUL!! I sort of tend to agree, however, with MarcoPolo...... while I wouldn't say he's a HORRIBLE choice, I do believe that he's just too young to be playing Reed. But, they ARE going by the Ultimates standard, so I guess he's as good as a Brendan Fraser (who I'm PRAYING is NOT still seriously in the running for Reed)!

07-01-2004, 08:58 AM

The latest news is that actor Chris Evans has been offered the role of Johnny Storm. Can't say I know who he is, although from the picture he might be suitable.
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=8107

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07-02-2004, 02:40 PM

Well it looks like we might have a cast:
Apparently Tim Story wants Chris Evans and loved him so much that he apparently offered him the role of the Torch right there on the spot.

The final list now according to the most solid rumours seems to be Ioan Gruffodd ("Horatio Hornblower", "King Arthur") as Mr. Fantastic, Rachel McAdams ("The Notebook", "Mean Girls") as Susan Storm, Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, and Michael Chiklis (TV's "The Shield") as Ben Grimm. An official announcement is due any moment.

See the link for details:
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=8193

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brokenstatue2001

07-03-2004, 12:48 AM

Well, it does seem like classic Marvel casting, picking a virtual group of unknowns for their acting abilities rather than box office apeal (X-Men, Hulk) and that's cool. Now tat just leaves Dr. Doom. Any idea who might get that role?

Burton X. Lynch

07-03-2004, 07:25 PM

Welshy, must be great to be a comic2film fan now that Batman and most likely Mr. Fantastic are Welsh.

Ioan Gruffudd seems way too young for Reed--even though he's about thiry-one. I don't understand Hollywood's attempts to make every single comic character in their twenties, (most of the actors trying out for Superman can't even drink yet. I like Donnie Darko, but c'mon he's a friggin' kid.) And it's kind of awkward if Reed is that young and Chiklis is, what, in his late forties or something?

But if they're going with this cast, then they have to throw us a bone with Dr. Doom. I heard they might cast Luke Goss. Nasally-voiced, wimpy, short, cockney-accented but still somewhat evil. Pfft. Jeremy Irons. Put him in, you know he can do it. I hope the Luke Goss thing is just a rumor.

Vincent D'Onofrio should be Ben Grimm. End of story.

Bigkid

07-05-2004, 01:01 PM

Did you guy's see the news today?? Latest big time rumor has it that Elisha Cuthbert (who plays Keifer Sutherland's daughter on "24"), has been already cast in the role of Sue Storm. Listen, if this IS true, here's my feelings: She's really a terrific young actress, but therein lies the rub.......the word YOUNG. She's got to be ......what......? 19.......IF that?? C'MOOOONNNN! I don't know how old Rachel McAdams is, but she's got a MUCH older sould than Elisha Cuthbert...... and even better acting chops. I don't get what they are trying to do here....... is it just to make this a young cast because of the Ultimates angle?? And as for Chris Evans..... I saw his pic too, but I have to say that I don't know anything that he's done, so I can't opine one way or the other. The news report indicates that Tim Story wanted him right off the bat, and that he offered the role to him. So the guy MUST have something anyway. As far as whose going to play Doom.... I wouldn't mind if they went for that guy who's been rumored for the past month now, anyway.....Jason Issacs. He's got that evilish look to him, I think he'd work out fine......... although, I'm still hoping someone over at Fox makes a last ditch effort to send Geoffery Rush a script!

07-05-2004, 01:47 PM

Batman, Mr Fantastic... hee hee ha! It's all part of my plot to make all comic heroes Welsh! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/biggrin.gif Now we need Timothy Dalton for Tony Stark, Catherine Zeta Jones for Wonder Woman...

Big Kid - I saw the Elisha Cuthbert rumour. I really hope it is just a rumour as I also agree she is way too young. I don't want Sue to become Johnny's YOUNGER sister. I'm not so impressed with her acting in 18 (24 is broadcast as 45 minute episodes over here with no commercials, so that's only really 18 hours) either. I hope she's not cast just because she is supposedly the next big thing, that will get males into the audiences. Rachel McAdams or Kadee Strickland should be perfectly fine in that department anyway.

As for Chris Evans - I can't say I know who he is, but over in the UK, Chris Evans is a ginger-topped Radio DJ and TV presenter. No-one here will have heard of the actor, and will only associate the name with the face of this person in the link:
http://www.ukgameshows.com/atoz/programmes/d/dont_forget_toothbrush/toothbrush.jpg

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Zac

07-06-2004, 04:12 PM

Frankly, I've kinda wanted Elisha for the part for a while. Even though she's only 22, I think she looks a lot older than Rachel McAdams, who is 28 and recently played a high school senior in "Mean Girls". I love both of those actresses, but I would much rather see Elisha in the role.

Bigkid

07-06-2004, 07:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Zac:
Frankly, I've kinda wanted Elisha for the part for a while. Even though she's only 22, I think she looks a lot older than Rachel McAdams, who is 28 and recently played a high school senior in "Mean Girls". I love both of those actresses, but I would much rather see Elisha in the role.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interestingly enough, Zac, while I've never seen Rachel McAdams in anything, 'cept for the trailer for "The Notebook", I think based on what I'd seen, I thought just from THAT, that she was a better actress then Elisha Cuthbert, who I've come to really like from "24". However, I just think that she's far too young for this. Even if they decided on Kadee Strickland, another actress who's work I've never seen, I find it hard to believe that the producer's of this film really believe that Elisha Cuthbert IS Susan Storm. But based on what?? Because she's a hot young thing, who's star is rising fast?? Even if you go by the Ultimates' standards on the FF, she just seems way too young, still. That was the problem that I had when I'd heard that they were seriously considering Kate Bosworth. It would look as if whoever they cast as Reed would still come off looking like a dirty old man! At least get an actress who is somewhere in the middle ground: Get somebody who's in the MID 20's range (LIKE Rachel McAdams), who can still be either referred to as The Invisible WOMAN or GIRL. But Elisha C. is just a bit too young for me to believe will be THE perfect Sue Storm (no pun intended with her name, by the way)!

07-07-2004, 12:39 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
 I find it hard to believe that the producer's of this film really believe that Elisha Cuthbert IS Susan Storm. But based on what?? Because she's a hot young thing, who's star is rising fast?? Even if you go by the Ultimates' standards on the FF, she just seems way too young, still. That was the problem that I had when I'd heard that they were seriously considering Kate Bosworth. It would look as if whoever they cast as Reed would still come off looking like a dirty old man! At least get an actress who is somewhere in the middle ground...But Elisha C. is just a bit too young for me to believe will be THE perfect Sue Storm (no pun intended with her name, by the way)!

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You know, it just occurred to me that if Elisha Cuthbert is going to be Sue, then why not go the whole hog and get Keifer Sutherland as Reed? Then he'll really seem like a dirty old man, as viewers will probably find it hard to separate the two as father and daughter.

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Zac

07-07-2004, 02:04 PM

After talking with Essex a bit last night, I think I realized that I would, all-in-all, like McAdams in the part better. Given how old they want Sue to be, plus that she's going to have some butt-kicking abilities, I think Rachel could do a better job. However, if they were doing the orginal damsel-in-distress Sue from the original comics, I would definatly be more for Elisha.

Bigkid

07-07-2004, 03:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
 You know, it just occurred to me that if Elisha Cuthbert is going to be Sue, then why not go the whole hog and get Keifer Sutherland as Reed? Then he'll really seem like a dirty old man, as viewers will probably find it hard to separate the two as father and daughter.

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You know something WELSHY? As much as I liked Elisha Cuthbert on "24", I just never felt that Keifer Sutherland looked old enough to play her father....... or her looking YOUNG enough to be his daughter. So it wouldn't bug me at all if they made that casting decision!

Bigkid

07-07-2004, 03:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Zac:
After talking with Essex a bit last night, I think I realized that I would, all-in-all, like McAdams in the part better. Given how old they want Sue to be, plus that she's going to have some butt-kicking abilities, I think Rachel could do a better job. However, if they were doing the orginal damsel-in-distress Sue from the original comics, I would definatly be more for Elisha.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ZACSTER!
WOW! I don't know what Essex presented to you, but I do believe that's the first time I've seen an "about face" done so quickly on ANY subject brought up on these boards! But, that's cool! I agree with you guys: McAdams IS good as the choice for the more mature and tougher Sue. Let's hope that they DON'T make Sue just being about the "damsel in distress" as you pointed out before.

07-07-2004, 04:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
You know something WELSHY? As much as I liked Elisha Cuthbert on "24", I just never felt that Keifer Sutherland looked old enough to play her father....... or her looking YOUNG enough to be his daughter. So it wouldn't bug me at all if they made that casting decision!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, but since they played as Father and Daughter, the image would be rather distressing. It would be like having Courtney Cox and David Schwimmer playing husband and wife!

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07-07-2004, 04:04 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigkid:
 ZACSTER!
WOW! I don't know what Essex presented to you, but I do believe that's the first time I've seen an "about face" done so quickly on ANY subject brought up on these boards! But, that's cool! I agree with you guys: McAdams IS good as the choice for the more mature and tougher Sue. Let's hope that they DON'T make Sue just being about the "damsel in distress" as you pointed out before.

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As for the damsel in distress concept - that's more in line with Sue being a Doris Day type housewife from the 1950s. Elisha Cuthbert doesn't exude that image. She was more of a street smart kid in 24. Nevertheless she is way too young for Sue.

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norrinraad

07-08-2004, 07:20 AM

Well, according to Variety, three of the main roles have now been cast:

Ioan Gruffudd = Reed Richards
Michael Chiklis = Ben Grim
Chris Evans = Johnny Storm

Frontrunners for Sue Storm are Jessica Alba, Keri Russel, and Rachel McAdams.

I have no idea who Grufudd or Evans are but I know Chiklis has been mentioned many times (I think Bigkid really liked the idea) and I admit I think it's a good fit also. Of the three contenders for Sue I like Rachel McAdams the best. Alba and Russel just don't do it for me. I guess we'll find out about Sue in the next couple of days.

07-08-2004, 01:50 PM

For another about-turn, I take back everything I said about Elisha Cuthbert... if that's what it takes not to have Jessica Alba as Sue. She is one of the worst possible choices. Not only is the wrong type ethnically, but even if you did change one of the group's background, she still DOES NOT look like she could possibly be Johnny's (Chris Evans) sister at all!
Apart from that, I never liked her personality or attitude on Dark Angel. She was like a sullen schoolgirl with a chip on her shoulder who thought she was trendy and streetwise. However, she always seemed more like a youth rebelling at being given too much homework instead of being able to go out with her girlfriends on a Saturday night. Is that what we really want with Sue? Will Reed have to ground her when she misbehaves, taking away her shopping and tv privileges?

Can anyone honestly say that, after reading the FF comics they see Sue as this R&B diva from some "Honey" movie? I guess we'll be seeing Johnny telling Reed when he threatens to blacklist Sue if she won't join them: "Reed, it's her dreams, her terms!"

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07-08-2004, 02:00 PM

Anyone else also think that Ioan Gruffudd might be better as Doom? Well, at least the face of him?

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MarcoPolo

07-08-2004, 03:31 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
For another about-turn, I take back everything I said about Elisha Cuthbert... if that's what it takes not to have Jessica Alba as Sue. She is one of the worst possible choices. Not only is the wrong type ethnically, but even if you did change one of the group's background, she still DOES NOT look like she could possibly be Johnny's (Chris Evans) sister at all!
Apart from that, I never liked her personality or attitude on Dark Angel. She was like a sullen schoolgirl with a chip on her shoulder who thought she was trendy and streetwise. However, she always seemed more like a youth rebelling at being given too much homework instead of being able to go out with her girlfriends on a Saturday night. Is that what we really want with Sue? Will Reed have to ground her when she misbehaves, taking away her shopping and tv privileges?

Can anyone honestly say that, after reading the FF comics they see Sue as this R&B diva from some "Honey" movie? I guess we'll be seeing Johnny telling Reed when he threatens to blacklist Sue if she won't join them: "Reed, it's her dreams, her terms!"

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Welshy, I sooooo agree with you on this one. Jessica Alba would SUCK,SUCK,SUCK as Sue. God I'm begging you, please stop this from happening!!

brokenstatue2001

07-08-2004, 09:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
For another about-turn, I take back everything I said about Elisha Cuthbert... if that's what it takes not to have Jessica Alba as Sue. She is one of the worst possible choices. Not only is the wrong type ethnically, but even if you did change one of the group's background, she still DOES NOT look like she could possibly be Johnny's (Chris Evans) sister at all!
Apart from that, I never liked her personality or attitude on Dark Angel. She was like a sullen schoolgirl with a chip on her shoulder who thought she was trendy and streetwise. However, she always seemed more like a youth rebelling at being given too much homework instead of being able to go out with her girlfriends on a Saturday night. Is that what we really want with Sue? Will Reed have to ground her when she misbehaves, taking away her shopping and tv privileges?

Can anyone honestly say that, after reading the FF comics they see Sue as this R&B diva from some "Honey" movie? I guess we'll be seeing Johnny telling Reed when he threatens to blacklist Sue if she won't join them: "Reed, it's her dreams, her terms!"

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And you want Rachel McAdams as Sue instead? She just got out of playing a high school student and you think that Jessica Alba is too bratty to play Sue? C'mon, man! Personally, I think Alba looks older than McAdams, and they are actors, that does not mean that Sue would change depending on who plays her. Now, don't think that I would rather have her playing Invisible Woman. WRONG!! I want Kate Beckinsale. But, seeing as how Jessica Alba is either filming, or just got done filming, Sin City, I say give her a chance.

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07-09-2004, 05:47 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by brokenstatue2001:
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I'd rather have Kadee Strickland as Sue. But Rachel McAdams has more the look of Sue than Jessica Alba, regardless of whether Alba looks older or not. As for Kate Bekinsale, even when she's playing an American, I can still see her quintessential English Oxford girl qualities coming through. I don't see why one needs to look to her. It's not as though there is a serious lack of blonde american actresses around.

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MarcoPolo

07-09-2004, 01:18 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
 I'd rather have Kadee Strickland as Sue. But Rachel McAdams has more the look of Sue than Jessica Alba, regardless of whether Alba looks older or not. As for Kate Bekinsale, even when she's playing an American, I can still see her quintessential English Oxford girl qualities coming through. I don't see why one needs to look to her. It's not as though there is a serious lack of blonde american actresses around.

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Right on Welsh!
"I say nay to Beckinsdale"(even though she's stupid hot). There's no need to use a british brunett to play a blond american.

Nuff' said

Bigkid

07-12-2004, 12:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by norrinraad:
Well, according to Variety, three of the main roles have now been cast:

Ioan Gruffudd = Reed Richards
Michael Chiklis = Ben Grim
Chris Evans = Johnny Storm

Frontrunners for Sue Storm are Jessica Alba, Keri Russel, and Rachel McAdams.

I have no idea who Grufudd or Evans are but I know Chiklis has been mentioned many times (I think Bigkid really liked the idea) and I admit I think it's a good fit also. Of the three contenders for Sue I like Rachel McAdams the best. Alba and Russel just don't do it for me. I guess we'll find out about Sue in the next couple of days. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OH NOBLE NORRIN!
(Haven't done THAT in a while, huh)?!

Yes, thanks for mentioning my "thumb's up" on Chiklis..... I felt that they should've gotten James Gandolfini, personally, but Chiklis is a damn good actor, who will bring Ben Grimm to life even when he's just as his human self. Ioan Grufford is currently playing Lancelot in "King Arthur". I happen to think this is a bad choice because he's just TOO young to be playing Reed. But, since they want to appeal to a younger house, this is what they do. Jessica Alba as Sue would be a MAJOR mistake.... Rachel McAdams, I'm in agreement with a lot of "youse guys"! Never seen Chris Evans in ANYTHING, but I've seen his pics before, and he's as good a choice as any that has been bandied about on these boards (although, I have to admit, this guy could be a BUM when it comes to his acting, and I wouldn't know it)! I'm really wondering who they are going to bring in as DOOM though, that's what I think is going to be a BIG hurdle to get over.

Bigkid

07-12-2004, 12:22 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Welshcat:
Anyone else also think that Ioan Gruffudd might be better as Doom? Well, at least the face of him?

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WELSHY!
I think he's not a good fit for EITHER character, to be honest. Even if you were to use him for Doom before HIS accident (if he's going to have SOME sort of accident in the first place, I don't know), it still wouldn't explain how youthful he is. I don't like the fact that they are using somebody in their 30's to be playing Doom in the FIRST place.

brokenstatue2001

07-12-2004, 12:45 PM

Well, I happen to think that Ioan Grufford is a good choice for Reed. I was watching King Arthur the other day and I could see him doing a good Mr. Fantastic. SO THERE!!! http://www.comics2film.com/UBB/tongue.gif

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07-13-2004, 12:36 PM

Well the latest news/ rumour is that Sarah Wynter has been cast as Sue.
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=8471

Now, for those of you that don't know, she used to play in 24 as Kate Warner. That picture isn't a very good representation of what she normally looks like, so here is another:
http://cinescape.com/multimedia/Master_Site/TV/Master_SiteTV282848.jpg

Now if this is true, this wouldn't be a bad choice at all. Certainly much better than Jessica Alba, and she isn't quite as young as Elisha Cuthbert (who also played in 24) or those other teen queens mentioned. She certainly has the look of Sue, with the slightly maternal qualities, and a soft, gentle side.

The only question is whether she might be too old at 30 years old, being born in Feb 1973, while Gruffudd was born in October 1973. Reed should, under no circumstances be younger than Sue, and should in fact be quite a few years her senior.

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brokenstatue2001

07-13-2004, 01:03 PM

She seems fine to me. And remember, they're in Hollywood, even though she is a few months older, I'm sure they could add another 2 or 3 years on Gruffudd, maybe even adding a little grey to his hair shouldn't hurt.

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Bigkid

07-13-2004, 04:45 PM

WOW! Sarah Wynter.......really?? I dig that choice, to be honest! I know I've been in agreement with you guy's on Rachel McAdams, but I've gotta be honest: This lady's a MUCH better choice. First of all, she's closer to the age that I initially felt that Sue Storm should be, and WELSHY is correct about her look, in that she has a softer, maternal look to her that makes her a better choice. I really liked this actress when she was on "24" 2 seasons ago (I bought the 2nd season of DVD for a brother for Christmas), and I'm currently re-watching it with him. I loved Sarah Wynter that season. I really like this choice, makes a whole lot more sense, actually. She's closer in age to Charlize Theron, who we were all clamoring for in the early goings for this role. I really hope she get's the part, she'd be great!

07-13-2004, 04:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by brokenstatue2001:
She seems fine to me. And remember, they're in Hollywood, even though she is a few months older, I'm sure they could add another 2 or 3 years on Gruffudd, maybe even adding a little grey to his hair shouldn't hurt.

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Hey, adding grey hair to Gruffudd in order to play Reed Richards is mandatory!

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