How should the F.F' and Doom's powers be portrayed on screen

[MarcoPolo]

I was just thinking about how Reed's voice should sound when he's stretching his upper torso. Shouldn't it sound like it's echoing through a long tube while doing so (his lungs and larynx are stretching after all)? Just how far should he be able to stretch his body? Should his arms just extend at will, or need they be lunged forward, or be pulled on? Also, what about Johnny's flames? Should they be yellow on the surface and his core is deep red? Or should they do like they did for Selma Blair in “Hellboy”, and just superimpose the flames over his image? How about Things strength? Should he be as strong as he is in the comics, or should he be more on par with Spidey in “Spiderman 2”? What about the Invisible Girl; totally invisible, or chameleon like effects (much like "The Predator")? Lastly there's Doom, how about his powers, any idea's?

[Bigkid]

I think that, since you have the people who developed the costume in Hellboy doing Ben, I think that you just might see the same people doing the same for the other members of the FF and for Doom. So, I think that yes, they may give Johnny the same treatment that they did in Hellboy w/Selma Blair, and as for Doom, I would like to see him with incredible strength along the par of Ben's. I think that Ben's strength SHOULD be portrayed in the film the way it was in the comics. I think they are going to have something similar to that anyway. In those interviews at the San Diego Comic Con, Michael Chiklis let slip a little something interesting in a scene in which he describes Ben with a lightpole. He stopped short as to what Ben actually DOES with it, but I'm inclined to think it's Ben uprooting a light pole in the street and either swinging it like a baseball bat AT something (or someONE), or winging it full force. So I would hope that they are going to really make use of their imaginations in this and let Ben go full force.

[Biohaz_Daddy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
I was just thinking about how Reed's voice should sound when he's stretching his upper torso. Shouldn't it sound like it's echoing through a long tube while doing so (his lungs and larynx are stretching after all)? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is an intriguing thought. It is something that I hope they consider.

[MarcoPolo]

Little details like that, have my imagination going. How should his stretching body sound? I imagine it to be similar to the noise of stretching rubber balloon, mixed in with the sound of pulling off a strip of duck tape from a roll.

[Biohaz_Daddy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MarcoPolo:
Little details like that, have my imagination going. How should his stretching body sound? I imagine it to be similar to the noise of stretching rubber balloon, mixed in with the sound of pulling off a strip of duck tape from a roll. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Seems like you should be a sound effects engineer. Quality sound effects can really transport you into a movie. It's probably as important to get those right as it is for anything else. They have a real opportunity with stretch in this film. I like the ideas you have for him. Take what you were saying about his power and lower it for the thickness of his body and it should be really cool.

[MarcoPolo]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Biohaz_Daddy:
Seems like you should be a sound effects engineer. Quality sound effects can really transport you into a movie. It's probably as important to get those right as it is for anything else. They have a real opportunity with stretch in this film. I like the ideas you have for him. Take what you were saying about his power and lower it for the thickness of his body and it should be really cool.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sound effects engineer eh? I never thought of that, it could be fun!
Now concerning Johnny Storm, I certainly hope people will react accurately to his blazing body. By that, I mean people should be uncomfortable and perspiring when near him while he's aflame. I would like to see a heat mirage effect being used around his body while on fire. Kinda' like, when you look down a highway on a hot afternoon. You can see a blur over the surface. Also, when he walks he should leave melted footprints and distort objects around him. Imagine him standing near a phone booth and to his surprise when he turns around it completely lopsided and misshapen.


[This message has been edited by MarcoPolo (edited 10-06-2004).]

[Bigkid]

I don't know, I kinda like the sound effects that they used in those old Fantastic Four animated shows, from when I was a kid (no wise cracks, WELSHY)! I don't know if any of the younger peeps here are familiar with what I'm talking about, but the sound effects that they used then were sort of like, a phaser noise from "Star Trek" being slowed down, and then made to sound elongated. If anybody knows what I'm talking about, please help me out here! If any of you have seen the old Fantastic Four animated series from Hanna/Barbera, you'll know what I'm referring to. As for Johnny, I'd like to see that too, that sort of "heat coming off the surface" look. That would make all sorts of sense.

[MarcoPolo]

I am interested in seeing the performances the actors give, when it comes to they're reactions to they're new powers. Example; how astonished will Reed be of his new ability? I can just picture him in a scene like this, where he notices he’s twisted a limb and it’s all out of whack..

- Reed “ I think I just fractured my arm Ben" -Ben "Oh man Reed, you should really have someone look at that, it ain’t normal!!" -Reed "Yeah, but shouldn't this hurt a bit??" -Ben “You’re darn right it should. I haven’t seen a fracture like that since my college football days!” –Reed “But Ben, I don’t feel anything!”

As far as Johnny goes, I can just imagine a funny scene where he's trying to douse a flame on his foot, using a toilet. Ben's reaction will have to be a more serious and traumatic one, while I imagine Sue, sort of enjoying her new power, but still being freaked at the same time.

[Bigkid]

In an interview I read on these pages with Chris Evans, he stated that he'd already shot a scene in which his character of Johnny is trying to figure out how to control his power. He was talking about how he was snapping his fingers, trying to actually start the flames, and then once he got them going, how to douse them. It sounded like a very funny moment in the film, so I'm looking forward, myself, to all these sorts of ways in which the FF try to figure out and realise the ways in which they can utilize and control their newfound powers.

[Znluvx]

One thing I hope we get to see in the FF film is the Thing using Reed as a slingshot to launch himself like a catapult.

Also do you think we'll see Torch's nova blast in this film or the sequal?

[WC]

You haven't read that Big Little Book, Fantastic Four in the House of Horrors, have you? That was the first time (and for me, the only time) I remember the slingshot effect being used. Reed catapulted Ben out of a steel room in which the FF had been trapped in by Dr Weird. I thought it was pure genius at the time.
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[Bigkid]

Actually, in the old cartoon series from Hanna/Barbara during the sixties, I think they used that imagery in the closing credits of the show. They even used it a few times, I'm almost SURE of it, during some of the FF's adventures. I would LOVE to see them use this for the film, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually do do it. I think it would make a great special f/x moment.

[Bigkid]

As for Johnny, I would love to see them showing him hurling his fireballs. I used to love to watch the old cartoon series when they would show him turn his hands around in a circular motion, and when he finished making a round ball, would wing 'em. Loved watching him do it one after the other; I would imagine this is something that they are most DEFINATELY going to show. Another thing I'd like to point out: I was able to watch that clip from ET (I just couldn't HEAR it is all), and I remember when they showed the Brooklyn Bridge sequence. If you guys who've seen it remember, they show Chris Evans come out of nowhere on the bridge. I think he was doing the wirework that he had been talking about in those interviews that he gave. I believe that he was flying on to the bridge at that moment. They are going to add the CGI of him later, I imagine. But what made me think this, if you take a look at him when he's landing? Evans' arms are in the same position as in the FF comics when Johnny's coming down. I'm referring to when The Human Torch is alighting, if you remember from the comics, his arms are outstretched in a sort of "V" shape, and his legs are tight in (which I noticed in the ET clip). I thought it was very interesting how Evans must have taken that FROM the comic book. I'm sure he's been doing his homework reading up on the Torch, wanting to get his mannerisms down. I think that it's working, it looked great from that clip. And we didn't even get to see CGI in the clip, either!

[Bigkid]

Apparently, in that interview that I was just speaking about in the Doom thread, with the film's f/x supervisor, Johnny will, in fact, be hurling fireballs. Kurtis Williams (is that the dude's name?), he said that it's going to look great. I'm really happy to hear that!